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Old 29-09-08, 04:42 PM   #1
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Swearing & Cops?!

Okay something happened and basically this lady wanted revenge so she complained to the cops that this gal swore at her, based on that, do the police have the right to take action? Meaning, if you swear at a person, is that a good enough reason to get the cops involved? What's the worst thing that the cops could do to that gal, although she didn't really swear.. but the lady claimed that she did.

Is there any Omani rule, that states that swearing is a crime? Also, is it possible to consider it a crime without having proof. I mean, how will the cops know if the lady isn't fabricating the story?
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Old 29-09-08, 05:01 PM   #2
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Let me ask a lawyer or a judge. I'll answer you ASAP.
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Old 29-09-08, 05:02 PM   #3
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Old 29-09-08, 05:06 PM   #4
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المادة (269) من قانون الجزاء العماني " يعاقب بالسجن من عشرة ايام إلي ستة اشهر او بغرامة لا تتجاوز عشرة ريالات كل من اهان كرامة احد الناس باحدى الوسائل المذكورة في المادة (34) من هذا القانون .
وتتوقف الملاحقة على اتخاذ المعتدي عليه , او اقربائه حتى الدرجة الرابعة اذا كانت الاهانة موجه الي ميت , صفه الادعاء الشخصي , وللقاضي ان يعفي الفريقين او احدهما من العقوبة اذا كان المعتدي عليه تسبب الاهانة بعمل غير محق او كانت الاهانة متبادلة ".

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Old 29-09-08, 05:17 PM   #5
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^ Sheesh. Since it's that serious, the crime cannot be a crime without solid proof, right? Besides, what if the person swore at you too, but verbally? Meaning, all sorts of lies can be put.. for the sake of 'revenge'

Another thing, what about age? Does the person have to be legal in order to be seen as a person who has committed a crime? What if you're under-age?
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Old 29-09-08, 05:19 PM   #6
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Well I don't know, because I copied that from a thread on the arabic sabla where someone was asking what is the punishment for a teacher who slapped a student..both fall in the same category which is offending someone and offending his dignity etc..اهانة الكرامة
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Old 29-09-08, 05:21 PM   #7
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^ Hmm, ok. Thanks anyways!
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Rossonero, that's a slap. This is swearing. or is it ok;p?
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Joker, slap .. swear or racist abuse. All the same.
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Old 29-09-08, 10:34 PM   #10
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I don't think so. It says in the article provided that you should refer to section 34 for what falls under harrassment.

Anyway, I think the best thing is that the girl should get another instructor so that she and her 'instructor' can have a piece of mind, since this 'telling the cops how badly we get on' looks really silly. I don't think the cops are really interested in hearing abt it, especially if the culprit is a minor- hence they are not dealing with a mature adult of sound mind !
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Old 29-09-08, 11:10 PM   #11
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According to the Omani law, the one Rossonero provided, if you swear at someone he/she can take you to court. So yes, the police do have the right to take action when they receive such complaints.
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^ Is calling a person a dog, considered swearing? I think Ross, was referring to 'real' swearing, right?
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You report that to the police, the police takes the case to the court (that's the action taken by ROP) and then the court decides whether that is considered swearing/offending by the law or not.
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^ Sheesh! Such a ridiculous thing. If that's how things are done, it just shows how much time ROP has got in their hands to waste on such poppycock!
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^ Sheesh! Such a ridiculous thing. If that's how things are done, it just shows how much time ROP has got in their hands to waste on such poppycock!
They dont, they send it to court, and they are the ones that take care of it.
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^ Sheesh! Such a ridiculous thing. If that's how things are done, it just shows how much time ROP has got in their hands to waste on such poppycock!

you cant just judge and say something like that!
people dont get it Swearing at Someone Now is not a game anymore
and ROP has nothing to do with it they just send it to court and there they deal with it

sheeesh! this is how people is now they dont like anything
if the ROP did an action they dont like it and if they didnt they dont like it either!

while i think they are doing theit job 100%
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What if a person said that a whole family aren't raised well?

Anything demeaning to a person is considered an insult, in most cases the cops try to settle these matters at the police station. Sometimes the issue gets bigger and eventually goes to court. But it’s rare in the case of an insult.

This law is important, without it some individuals can go out of hand and insult others publicly! Keep in mind, if you respond to insult in the same manner then you can’t really complain to the police.
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and I think it makes people think more about it as a serious thing
they can just swear at anyone and think its okay! :/
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^ does'nt make it less ridiculous and also shows that cops and court got a lot of time on their hands
you can say
they have time for the citizens and their issues
which is GRAET!

and believe me its not Silly!
you wont be happy to get an insult from anyone just like that
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But I believe that the cops are there not only for the so called 'crimes' which is what I got through your thread. However, the cops should be able to distinguish between silly and real. For example, in Muslim countries -as I know- if someone call you a b!tch not the kidding/swearing way, but a real wh*re you can call the cops and even sue her for accusing you so.
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they have time for the citizens and their issues
which is GRAET!

and believe me its not Silly!
you wont be happy to get an insult from anyone just like that
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I'm not to judge or comment.

But I believe that the cops are there not only for the so called 'crimes' which is what I got through your thread. However, the cops should be able to distinguish between silly and real. For example, in Muslim countries -as I know- if someone call you a b!tch not the kidding/swearing way, but a real wh*re you can call the cops and even sue her for accusing you so.
if i do get an insult from someone without a reason, common sense says to avoid them, or just give a blank stare and move on as they are already proving themselves a tool by insulting a complete stranger for no reason. but going to the cops for an insult......be serious please! the next post about the cops being able to distinguish between silly and real is bang on target

and oh yeah, having time for citizens, i agree with that, our cops and law and order system is great, no two says about that. but then if they have time for playing insult insult......how about devoting some time to and showing some bottle and curbing over-speeding and rash driving and the like?
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Anything demeaning to a person is considered an insult, in most cases the cops try to settle these matters at the police station. Sometimes the issue gets bigger and eventually goes to court. But it’s rare in the case of an insult.

This law is important, without it some individuals can go out of hand and insult others publicly! Keep in mind, if you respond to insult in the same manner then you can’t really complain to the police.
What if the police don't believe you?
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and oh yeah, having time for citizens, i agree with that, our cops and law and order system is great, no two says about that. but then if they have time for playing insult insult......how about devoting some time to and showing some bottle and curbing over-speeding and rash driving and the like?
in the first place who complained about he insults are the people not the cops ,
so its not silly if someone turned for help to get from someone who can get your rights

the people are silly who look for any problem to complain about and get money
BTW some do that to get money
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