Boys acting like girls in the gulf

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

Hi all
I am very sad to see some of my friend and brothers in islam acting like girls and some times wearing like them.
I respect girls and love them because they are my sisters my mother and some day my wife etc,,,,,But the boys or mens whoe suppose to be a male acting and wearring girls clothes even some times they have boy friends,its relly something discusting and make me feel sorry for them and thier life.
Here I want to know is there no one can stop this thing in our countries.
Is it true that these people have power in our countries that no one can stop them.
The freedom is not this way my friends.
I ask the goverments tell when these things will happen.
Please change your life style to better.
Please stop these actings and behaviors.
The goverments should do something.
Please take care of your kids
Take care all

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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[sam4net]

I guess this country is practicing a Human Rights... That's why they let them do whatever they want to do.. Have you been to SOHO in London... ??

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

sam4net
Thank you for your comment???
But if this was human rights,where is our relegion rights,our culture rights our ..........rights ? guess you under stand what I want to wright.
How ever I feel sorry for these youth following this way of life really.
These people given chance to destroy their life.
Have a good life all
Take care

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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[ABU NOOH]

Hate,

Thank you for posing this subject. In fact I feel so supset of what is going wrong with the Islam youth. Everday you see a new style of clothes, new hair cut, new colours....etc. I think, these because of the lack of Iman, not only within these category of human being, but also their families. The wisdom says, that if the fatehr is a good "DRUMMER", then what do you expect from his boys or other members in the family except dansing.!!!!!

The strange thing that, ALLAH (Subhanahu Wa'taalah) describes those category as Animals, and even worse than animal. Despite this negative description in Quraan, but they continue with the bad deed. Do you think that they have a MIND/BRAIN? SURE, NO. And that what will happen in the Doomsday, that all who did bad deed, will admit that they had no brain, other wise how come and throw them selves in the Almighty Allah punishment.

From this throne, I would like to advise all the muslims to be committed to Quraan and Sunna, and they must feed them selves so much with the TAQWAA, because it is the ration for the long journey.

Abu NOOH

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The Islam is my father I have no other father.

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

ABU_NOOH
Allah yenawar 3lleke,,,you activated my tears

and made me feel more sorry for them.BUT,,,,,

they should get some one stop them and bring

them back to the right way.AS 3aleh el salato

welsalam said,,,men ra aa menkom monkaran fal

yoghayerho beyadeh fa en lam yaqder fa be

lesaneh fa en lam yaqder fabeqalbeh wazaleka

ath3af aleiman........

So here in this sablah we are doing the

second choice ( fa be lesaneh )..and I think

the goverments responsibility to do the 1st

choice ( be yadeh __ by action ).

I think the minesters like these gay's,,,,

because many of them are gay,s guess every

one know who I mean (al labebo bel esharate

yafhamo ).

I hope to see mens as minesters not . . .

.........................etc.

Good luck all

Take care of your children

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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[ABU NOOH]

Hate,

Agree with you that Government can play a vitql role and responsibility in stopping allot of things in our islamic communities. But, still I stick on the concept that every body is responsibile, and everybody shall be accounted for what is going wrong in this world. Government is responsible, you and me are responsible, father, mother, brothers and sisters and the people who do the bad deed are of course the main focused on this.

So let us put our hands together, and go to call for ALLAH (For Daa'wah) , not only lectures, because not everone is able to give a talk, but they are alot of ways.

Brother Hate,

I urge with you not to use bad words, as you are also accountable for every letter you say. The only thing you have to do if you feel that there are certain people doing worse or bad deeds, is to give them advises or pray to ALLAH Subhanahu Wata'ala to guid them to the right track inshaalah.

Thank you.

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The Islam is my father I have no other father.

[sukar zyadah]

HATE,
first of all. alsalam 3alikum wa ra7mat allah wa barakatoh. i read the title of your POST and thought, well this is an entersting subject to talk about.
im a muslim and i know that allah (sub7anah wa ta3ala) doesnt allow such things in the islamic world. the thing is my brother, is that those kids are being raised in the wrong way or are missing something essential in their childhood. the most important is the guidence with is really demolished by the tonns of activities the parents occupy themselves with.
To those people who are engaged in such behaviors, i know a lot of them hate it. and i wish that somehow they can reach maximum happiness, like i wish for everyone else.

take care brother
keep up the enticing subjects.

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[Smile69]

I Oman 99.99 % all like OO
and 2001 well be 1000 %

http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/biggrin.gif-

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[Bin Ladan]

Hello..........I am here

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

wa3alekom alsalam all

ABU NOOH.....

My brother with all respect of what you said

I really want these ( boy's) to be real mens

and to behave them self after reaching these

ages,,,,,I am sorry if I said bad worlds

which I shouldn't say ,,,,it happens some

times ,, I love this country and every one

in it so I want to see my omani brothers

being men not homosexual.

SUKAR SYADAH....

What you said is sukar like you

The problem is again that they don't want to

change their behavior ,,,, and continue

laughing on people who say to them that this

is wrong,,,, I hope that our end not be like

qoom loot ( same7ni ya allah )

smile69.....keep smiling

I like your name it makes me smile,,,

Bin Ladan...

we are here to my brother

Are you writing frm afghanistan....

just joking...keep going my brother

Take care of your children all



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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[KeyWestBoy2000]

Mar7aba

No introduction is needed. I'll just get to my point.

I have never seen in my entire life so much bigotry and hate promotion as in Mr.Hate's view about homosexuality. It was very disappointing to me to read it in the very same day in which our beloved country is going to the ballot boxes to elect its first 21st century parliment.

Mr. Qoom whatsoever, if I choose to be with a man, that's simply none of your business. It's NOT your business what I do privately in my bedroom. You have No authority to judge my choices based on your, sorry to say, narrow-minded opinion.

What you are advocating is nonsense. Your view about homosexuality is not acceptable in a civilized society and contradicts the basic human right of love. -----&gt; i,e... I reserve my right to be attracted to any person I wish, you have absolutely NO word over my lifestyle, just I don't have a say on yours. Although I wish you good luck in finding a soulmate soon :-)

Remember, Oman was built by men and women, light skined and dark skined alike, religious and non-religious, straight and gay. Noone can claim that Oman is only their and deny others the exact same right.

The other outrageous thing in your article was your suggestion that our government should interfere in that matter. Thank's God our beloved gov't is wise enough to ignore your laughable comment. And thank's God again that we live in the year 2k, where no moral or thought police could dare to exist. I say authorities should encourage tolerance and acceptance, not hatred and homophobia.

Our differences, especially about sexual orientation, should NOT ONLY be tolerated, but honored and celebrated. So please, stop the hate message you're spreading, it's dangerous. It can kill somebody (have you heard about Matthew Shepard, a 21 year old who was killed 'cuz he was gay). Ideas like yours killed this martyr.

Unity is always in diversity.
Allah Yehdik.
Salam
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Don't ask me if i'm gay, ask my boyfriend

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[no fear]

Hello friends

i just want to say my opinion about this interset topic.
The goverment will not want to stop these people acting like girls.
so many of them like that girlie games.
it us ordinary people to pray to god to burn who ever is involve in this sick game because they are waste in the space and i wish they were not born in this life what a waste of sperms.
god forgive us for they mistakes.
god give me the strenght to able to make the changes.
I love oman and i hate the girlie man.
mujahidin keep it up.
i hate the say if u cant beat join them.
peace NO FEAR I MEANT IT

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faith with no fear

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

no fear

HOW CAN WE STOP THEM , WHILE THE POWERFULL

PEOPLE SUPPORTING THEM.

EVEN SOME PARENTS FORCE THEIR GIRLS TO MARY

THESE TYPE OF BOYS ( FOR MONEY ).

I WISH YOU GOT WHO I MEAN ????




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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[Had elsaif]

Well, Mr gay boy 2000 you made me laugh trying to defend something wrong with a civilization weapon. You can try it next time and defend adultry and see if it's gonna work for as far as I know they're both haram in Islam unless you're the first Omani Christian I've ever heared of. We don't give a shit whether you're gay or whether you get it in your mouth or at your bottom. Whatever you're doing in your bedroom honey is up to you but don't ever expect one day for people to look at you like any normal man. You'll remain a disgusting freak who's looked down at with one eyebrow lifted.
Your only solution is to change country and guess what I think you're civilized enough to do that!!!!

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lisanee sarimon la Aiba feehee....

[KeyWestBoy2000]

Mar7aba all

I guess it's the will of God that forces me to write to you and participate in this debate again, just to lay out some facts that might not be so clear to everybody in this forum and to state my position in this issue.

Dear friends, I'm really sick and tired of all those homophobes out there who do NOT appreciate the strenghth of diversity in OUR dearest Oman. A simple question for you all. Can you deny that there are honest and honorable Omanis who spend their lives serving our community and it happened that they are gay? Of course NOT. You can never, ever deny that. The personal choices we make have nothing, whatsoever to do with our status as human beings. I personally was accused by the messagae above of being less that a man. Please tell me WHY. Is it because A7mad ibn 7anbal said that? That's so sad. In the eve of the 3rd millenium we still have people who judge others based on bedtime fantasies.

My friends, listen to this. If I call tomorrow for a gay pride parade in the streets of Shati al-Qurm, my little hometown, you will be astonished of the turnout of participants. You will see a crowd that's as enthusiastic and lovable, and lovig, as anyone else in Oman. You know why. Because we are all in the honorable service of the land we love and belong to, no matter what our sexual oreintation differences could be. The bottom line is, that at the call of the dawn, we shower :-) and pray, and... go to serve Oman.

Mr. Had whatever accused me of several things that I can not keep my mouth shut at. First of all, I wanna make it clear that I'm Muslim, Arab, and gay .... and I truely take a great deal of pride in being all that. I'm just an honest person who is gay. Anything wrong in that???? I love my country. It gave so much. It's a great debt that I owe and can never pay it back. But, I'll do anything I can to take my country in the right direction to the 21st century. I don't care what Ibn Taimia thinks about me. People who make those kinda accusations are making there own rules and calling them "nature". That's sooo wrong.

Back to Mr.Had who thinks that I'll justify adultry, let me say that, and make it clear. I'm totally against any type of cheating if you are in a committed relationship. Not being faithful to your love or hiding anything from him/her is how I define adultry , and that's WRONG.

And you know what else is wrong, hatred and bigotry. The guy who replied above is a teacher. You know how dangereous is that? If that's how a certified teacher thinks, what should we expect? A society of isolated young gay boys who spend the best days of their lives in pain of not being accepted, or a society of a bunch of unholy trinity discriminationists, based on gender, race and sexual preference. If you allow gays to be attacked today, it's gonna be YOU who will be criticized tomorrow, because of your accent or color of skin, or even worse, your interpretation of religion.

As for me, dear friends, I'm not young. I'm 21 years old. I'm an adult and mature enough to make my oun decisions regarding both life and lifestyle. I'm in a relationship with a man who is truely the love of my life. Our relationship is NOT based only on sex and animal desires, we love each other and care for each other. We broke all the cultural barriers by engaging in such a wonderful relationship. I hope everyone can follow my footsteps, LOL, but then I'm confident that you all can make your own decisins, just as I did.

My boyfriend and I are NOT disgusting freaks or lesser men, we ARE full men who happen to get attracted to the same sex. Whose business is that? My friends, there is a great movie called " Life is Beautiful", and I say, Yes indeed, it is. So get out there and look for peace and love. And stop homophobia, please, please, and... please.

I hope that I made my point clear.

Salam to all from the big apple.

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The Only Limitations We Have Are The Ones We Place On Ourselves

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[KeyWestBoy2000]

A little note to my boyfriend, the love of my life .....

Over and over I look in your eyes
You are all I desire
You have captured me
I want to hold you
I want to be close to you
I never want to let go
I wish that this night would never end
I need to know
Could I hold you for a lifetime
Could I look into your eyes
Could I have this night to share this night together
Could I hold you beside me
Could I hold you for all time
Could I, could I have this kiss forever
Over and over, I've dreamed of this night
Now you're here by my side
You're next to me
I want to hold you and touch you and taste you
Ohhhh baby please
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[Had elsaif]

Yes I'm a teacher and I'm sure this will be in my favour not against me. I'm also a Muslim and a true Arab who was raised on morals and straight manners.I'll never encourage a student of mine to become a gay or throw himselves into the humiliation of being a slave of twisted socially unexcepted conduct. I'll never stand smiling in front of him saying that diversity is good. I know that there are many gays perhaps more than the hair on your boyfriend's chest but that doesn't make it proper. I can ask for parades for prostitutes or theives and thousands will turn up. It's well known that sinners are more and that uncociousley they tend to figure out excuses that they soon believe while they're actually away from the main point THAT IT'S HARAM in all religions and that Ibn Taimiah and Ibn Hanbal weren't the ones who made it haram for there's only one source for that that we all know. And those people who you don't want to cease being a gay because they JUST said so had raised and educated generations of great Muslim schoolers with their long years of work and devotion for their religion and ancesstors.And they're in a superior position that not you nor I can reach to.
I don't teach hate, I teach whatever my religion and those people taught me. And talking of diversity, I teach whatever makes us different from those people in the "civilized" world in the 21st century who marry men to each other and carry diseases.

By the way, I liked your poem. I thought of my wife and children and somehow it tasted sweeter!!!

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lisanee sarimon la Aiba feehee....

[KeyWestBoy2000]

Hate is not a family value. No religion ever advocated hate. Love, even to your enemy, is what all religions are about.

People who are not capable of adapting the Universal Human Values will soon, very soon (I promise), find themselves left behind.

And I'm telling you all, in fact warning you, that if you don't speak out against intolerance today, you will be the next target for the insects of darkness. You could find yourself the target of religious intolerance. You could be attacked just because you happen to be Abadhi, Sunni, Shia, or even Wahhabi.

People who hate me don't do so because I'm gay, they hate me because I'm different. They consider me "the other". And by me aknowledging the difference and openly coming out, they consider me a threat to their static mentality. You got what I mean? Their unsacred battle is NOT against homosexuality. No, it is against "the other" as they define it.

The fact of the matter is that the greatest sin of all sins is the use of religion to justify some unholy causes.

During the 1960s Civil Rights Movement in the United States, something happened that's very much like what's going on in this forum today. Religion was used by the Protestant Religious Right (a right wing sexist, racist and homophobe coalition) to oppose civil rights to the non-Protestant minorities. In their justification, they claimed that their interpretation of faith was superior, therefore they had the right to be superior. The Nazi devil, Hitler, did a similar thing. He burnt Jews and gays because they were inferior to him, in his sick mentality. Today, the Religious Right and the Nazis are in the GARBAGE OF HISTORY. Got the lesson yet?????

Mr Had compared myself, a homosexual, to two groups of criminals, theives and prostitutes. And I say to him: SirI look at the Statue of Liberty everyday and get inspired by it. It gives me a great motivation to fight the ugly and the savage, and the completely ridiculous in our world today. You don't think someone like me is a theif or a prostitute, do you??? LOL. I hope not. But I'm getting used to your bad judgment.

You know what's so interesting? People who attack me never use words like honesty and honor. You know why? because my decency is not a matter of debate. They can't use it as a weapon against me. They know how much I love my country and community and THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

No matter what, I swear by my boyfriend's chest (which is by the way very smooth with not a single hair) that I'll remain faithful to my community and my cause.

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Everything I need to know I learn it from James Bond!!! The World is Not Enough, Tomorrow Never Dies, Never Say Never Again, For Your Eyes Only ..... etc

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[Had elsaif]

I think enough had been said in this topic. You talked about diversity and hate. I talked about it being haram and haram can never be justified. If you found love with your friend, that's good. Just remmember that God's love is more fruitful. Hope to catch you in a more mature topic with much more convincing replays.
And Allah yehdeek!!

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lisanee sarimon la Aiba feehee....

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

1st of all I am sorry I was not here for some time.

2nd I was shocked to read what was written

from mr keywestboy2000

I want to say only few points :

I love oman and proud being omani.

As I noticed that the mr 2000 ,, from his nick name is reflicting his thinking and from where he got these ideas of being gay is acceptable in islamic society.

Also as usual gays ars COLD BLOOD PEOPLE they
never becom angry what they do is always argue and argue and argue and argue without stopping(they know that they are wrong).

mr western boy just set with your self only yourself and think if yoy are wright or wrong only with your self and be honest as I said (be honest)and ask your self if you are wright or wrong,don't tell as the results of your thinking it's just for you.

for every one who wrote this topic please just give me 5 minutes of your thinking,just
set 5 minute without interfering and think if it's wright to be gay while our allah said not to be or it's wrong ,(keep the result for your self)this is just for you.

western boy

This is not me or any human being who rueled this world ,, this is allah 3aza wajal who told as to kill qoom loot (throw thim stone untill they die)and if you disagree with me in this point that mean's you are disagrre with yourself,,except if you are as I see one of the follower of sheetan.

To remind you some historical things did you
forgot what happened to qoom loot (I think you can't sleep one night without thinking about what will happen to you yoom el qyama)

west gay

DON'T EVEN TRY TO SAY THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE HONEST AND THEY ARE GAY BECAUSE NO ONE WILL AGREE WITH YOU.
JUST LET ME GIVE YOU ONE REASON NOT MORE,,
THESE PEOPLE PREPHERE GOOD LOOKING BOYS TO WORK WITH THIM EVEN IF THEY ARE THE MOST STUPID PEOPLE IN THE WORLD,,,AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME IN THIS POINT ITHINK THAT YOU ARE (MUNAFIQ)AND YOU ARE ONE OF THEM .

2ND
west boy

My name hate is disapointing you ,, because I am not in the same line with you .

You must know that every one in this world what ever he said about qoom loot even you do you got it even you doesn't want to be gay because it is something disscusting and all the people HATE YOU AND THE HOMOSEXUAL DID YOU GOT IT THEY HATE THEM .

FINALLY WESTBOY200
ALLAH YEHDEEK YA IBN ADAM ..I SWEAR THAT I WILL BE HAPPY IF YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND ABOUT BEING GAY,,,WALLA I HOPE FOR YOU TO CHANGE AND THINK ABOUT YOOM EL QYAMA ,,THIS LIFE IS NOTHING COMPARING WITH THAT DAY.

JUST THINK AND ( EN ALLAHA MA3A EL TAWABEEN)
EL TOBAH IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR YOU.

ALLAH YESAME7EK WE YEGHFHER LAK(A'AMEEN)

(TO ALL MEMBERS PLEASE REMEMBER YOUR RELIGION AND WHAT WILL BE IN YOOM EL QYAMA AND DON'T FOLLOW SHITTAN)

BEST WISHES



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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[sukar zyadah]

well well well
i certainly missed a lot in the past week, MAN, being sick is NOT my favorite thing. lol. well gentlemen, i think that wb2000 and his college are entiteled to their fanatsy, as i said before, they do have the right to chose, just dont influence others, nothing against you guys or your beleifs, BUT IT IS AGAINST OUR BELEIFS. so as simple as could be, you have your own life, we certainly have our own, if you find people who accept you, you live the way you want to. good luck on the parade, dont get busted though.
walla dinya, kilin 3ala hawah!

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ITS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE!!

[no fear]

TO MISS KEYWEST BOY2000

GOD HAS CREATED MAN AND WOMAN ONLY.

NOT GAYS AND LESBIANS IWILL WACTH YOU

AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU BURNING IN HELL.

WE NEED YOUR KINDS TO MAKE MORE FIRE MAMAS GIRL I DONT KNOW IF YOUR PARENTS KNOW ABOUT YOU MAN.
WASTE IN THE SPACE PEOPLE LIKE YOU.


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faith with no fear

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

Mr no fear

I think his parents either don't know about him or they are like him.



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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[KASHESHE]

Gays = biisa ismu alfosook baada al eemaan.

We have to strike terror on them.

they have no freedom for this.

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

KASHESHE

Go a head and we follow you ??

But I prefer them to change to real mens.

The gays in arab countries are different from the european ,,, because the arabian gays are multi purpose ,,, and they does not hate girls but they only want to be sc????? .

So the chance to become a men back for arabian gays are better than the european and others.



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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[7ashaash]

They have to stop them self before stopping others ( al labeebo bel esharate yofhamo).
How can someone tell others stop smoking while he smokes.

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7ashaash laken sa7i

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

I Love Allah
Thanks brother for your nice reply http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/smile.gif
I hope from the bottom of my heart for all gays to change their life style.

Hey brother I like your name http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/wink.gif

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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[I Love Allah]

All through this topic:

HATE_QOOM_LOOT,
ABU NOOH,
sukar zyadah,
Had elsaif,
no fear.

these people reeeeeeeeeeally did a very good job to convince KeyWestBoy2000 that gayness is 7aram and a bad mannerand that everyone in the society hates gays...

thanks soooooooo much for them all for discusing this issue in the light of islam...

and special thanks for HATE_QOOM_LOOT for his advises (in special) to this astrayed gay, (and in general) to all muslim youths and thier families and societies... thanks very much HATE_QOOM_LOOT and wish that Allah will recored this in your deeds for your Hearafter life... not to forget brother ABU NOOH, may Allah reward you for this...

and let's keep discusing other aspects that is important and keep enlightening this ummah with the light of the Quran and Sunnah, by propagating da3wah and keep reminding others " fa inna ethikraa tanfa3u lmu2mineen"

wa ssalamu 3alaikum wa ra7matu Allahi wa barakatuh.




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"Say: if you love Allah, follow me,
Allah will love you and fogive your sins..."

[Quran 3:31]

[TOTII]

hi...
well no thing to say because every way u will get this type of peaple,they want to be like M.Jakson not like Khalid Bin Waleed,and then less go to fight with Israel(Yahood)how come????

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

TOTTI SISTER
Don't worry if there is a chance for fightining with Israeil , we don't need gays ,you have people like khaled ben waleed but let the chance come and you will see how we fight.
We don't need gays like michael jakson to fight beside us.

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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[TOTII]

HOTE-QOOM-LOOT SISTER

yes that true we don't want gays with us to fight with Isriale.because 100% will going to loss and alla not help us.

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[TOTII]

HOTE-QOOM-LOOT SISTER

yes that true we don't want gays with us to fight with Isriale.because 100% will going to loss and allah not help us.

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

TOTII

I AM MAN ( MALE ) http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/wink.gif E7M E7M

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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[TOTII]

HATE-QOOM-LOOT

oh that good, even i'm MAN (MALE)

sory for that.... and also remmber all qoom loot they will be in (Nari Jahnaam) so that why u hate those people.

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

TOTII

brother nice one http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/wink.gif http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/wink.gif http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/smile.gif http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/smile.gif



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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[TOTII]

HATE -QOOM-LOOT

If we want to vanish these type of people we have to stop the external influence getting into our contries. The various Satalite TV channels nowdays show films or programms which are really against our religeous belives (support gays, homosexual. These western ideas are coming too fast towards us and we do nothing about it. I dont understand why do the government monitor the contents of Video movies (cutting off kisses) but allowing TV satalite to transmit sex movies, gays programms,etr,,,???!!

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[7ashaash]

TOTII

neither do I no why they allowed these satallites in our country.

I think parents can do something in many casses.

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7ashaash laken sa7i

[sukar zyadah]

guys
its a matter of selecting, i think that you can have the DISH and still be moraly straight, its just that sometimes it falls in the wrong hands.

[mahmood]

No my friend Omanis are improving every day so dont stop them please, They are new generation and developement of our country, and one day you will be proud of them and I am sure.

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

Mahmood brother

I couldn't get your point !!!!!!

Can you explain more if you don't mind plzzzzzzzz??

[Wardat_il'7leej]

There are five references in the Qur'an which have been cited as referring to gay and lesbian behavior. Some obviously deal with effeminate men and "masculine women".

The two MAIN references to homosexual behavior are:

"We also sent Lut : He said to his people : "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." Qur'an 7:80-81

"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk." Qur'an 26:165

There are Hadith collections of sayings attributed to Muhammad. Many Hadiths (ahadith) discuss liwat (sexual intercourse between males). Two examples are:

"When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes".

"Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to". (in reference to the active and passive partners in gay sexual intercourse)

Note: I have actaually searched for these verses and copied them onto my message.



There is a consensus among Islamic scholars that all humans are naturally heterosexual. Homosexuality is seen by scholars to be a sinful and perverted deviation from the norm, which is what we have come to know and learn. Do not talk to me about Civirlization, if being civilized means being gay or a lesbian then i refuse that type of advancement for my country. I refuse to see my children grow-up in a world were such acts against God Al Migthy are being reduced and shown to be simple.

Finally i would like to say homosexuality is a moral disorder. It is a moral disease, a sin and corruption... No person is born homosexual, just like no one is born a thief, a liar or murderer. People acquire these evil habits due to a lack of proper guidance and education.

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

wardat ilkali7'

Thanks for this valiable message.
( The book shine from it's topic )( alketab yeban men 3enwanoh )

[Wardat_il'7leej]

Tislam ya HQL..........thankx alot...don;t know what else to say...
Waroodah

[warda]

Ky West Boy,

You are forgetting that peoples' reaction to you is based on Islam. They judge you because the Kor'an condemns men who sleep with men. Don't try and make it part part of society just because your numbers have been there since God knows when. Yes you have been around for a long time, but religion came and said to change these habits. Are you not well versed with the Kor'an?

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

Warda

Don't worry mr keywestboy either became a man or noticed that he is in the wrong place. :)

But I am sure he is still reading the topics,or may be he is around with a different nick name. ;)

[annaya3]

I totally agree with you...

I think that the main problem here in this country or any other country is that people just like to try new things without even thinking about it, then they get hooked and usually then there is no way out...

But what people (Gays) forget to do is think a little bit and try to reflect back on what our religon says and wants us to abide with... This is where the real problem is...

Many guys (gays) as they call themselves are mainly trying to seek attention in my opinion... They may be in trouble and find that this is a way for them to seek attention or maybe even help... Who knows!!!

Alos, I think that another main reason in them is trying to copy others with out thinking (specially in the western world)... This is very much true... But what we are forgetting to mention here is not the guys being gays only but the girls too being lesbians!!!

Don't shut them out of society, but try to reach out and understand them too so that we can be of some help to them... I'm not saying that I agree with all this on the contrary... I'm against it very much... but life has tought me not to judge things by its cover but to go deeper to the core of the proble...

[Edited by annaya3 on 11-03-2000 at 12:47 AM]

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

annaya3

1st welcome to this sablah and you will love the sweet people here ( except me ). ;)


2nd I like the way you think ,and thanks for your reply. :)

:D :D :D



[Edited by HATE_QOOM_LOOT on 11-12-2000 at 10:16 PM]

[Nimr Mal Zibala]

HEY NO ONE WELCOMED ME HERE????? Anyway lol, i havent read everything that was said but generlly gayboy2000 is gay and HQL is anti-GAY.
1. Mr. 2000 the acceptance of homosexuals in other "civilised" (as u say bit i beg to differ) is because of laws laid down in advance, before the gays came out of there closets , stating that all humans be treated equal blah blah blah blga. So according to those laws homos fall under the same law as they after all humans too.
2. Don't use the "errr ur so homophobic and homophobes are really gay in their minds" ok to some people that may be true but generally that is just what the media use to defend homosexuals and its really the only weapon they have.
3 You are a homosexual and i put any money or anything that you have not had a normal bringing up as a child or as an adult. You are a either a victim of severe beating at home or maybe u were buggered in the showers at school or something like that. BUT I BET 99.99999 % of the time most homosexuals come about because functioning in society has been difficult for them. I BET ANYTHING U HAVE HAD SOMETHING GONE BADLY WRONG FOR U IN YOUR LIFE
4 If the function of human beings is to carry on creating life. Now tell me this if everyone became gay what the hell would you do to carry on this world? In some ways you can say that homosexuality is a weapon of world destruction. Becasue u can not procreate can you ? CAN YOU?
5 You are entitled to being treated as a human and no one NO ONE can deny you that. Your judgement will come so it is no ones business, right! But i do not think you have the right to argue homosexuality as it is simply wrong, YOU ARE A WRONG ONE SON. LOL. You do not have the right, everything has a purpose in life to continue part of the circle of life- what do homosexuals do? They fill the space of weak minds, hearts and souls. Weakness shouldn't be filled by homosex. they should be strengthened by other stuff like excercise or something but not bumming each others bumholes!
5. How can u say u are a muslim, you are spitting in Islams face by ripping your boyfirend a new ******* ? You are a hypocrite and i h8 hypocrites
6. Back to the bit about civilised nations, u mean those civlised nations where women and man are raped murdered theived beaten cheaten hundreds of thousands of times per year? If its those civilised nations then why don't you just go f****k off over there and enjoy your time as a male gigolo. As far as those "civilised" nations go Oman is the most civilised. Why did they become such a murderous peoples because they became far too relaxed with their laws and became oh so "civilised"! *spit spit* i spit on u scum poof!
Anyway what it comes down to no matter who is arguing what or for whom, is that homosexuality is wrong . It serves no purpose but to fill an unholy yucky desire, but in every good batch of born children there is the "bad egg", which will go down the path of anal rompy pompy eh? If god wanted pooftahs then it would have been ADAM & Julian not ADAM * Eve? Homos are here to stay so as long as they do not try to promote themselves or stick there ding a ling where its not wanted i dont see why they can not go about there own business. After all it is no ones place place to judge but GOD and you HQL are not god. hehehe j/k HQL i just had to say somethin to annoy you lol!!

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

fish food

You date expired( Ignore list ).

[Nimr Mal Zibala]

I had a date with you? Sorry i'm straight

[annaya3]

Hi HQL & Everyone:

I'd like to thank you and everyone else here who has welcomed me to the sablah... You all have no idea how happy I am to be here making new friends...

I'd like to contribute more but I just can't seem to find anything good to say right now... Maybe someother time...

annaya3

[Meticulousness]

In some countries, it’s been taught that Oman occupies high rates of gays. Just go to the Batina region for God's sake and you'll feel it in the air.

They're even getting married. Now for the love of God, where are the officials?

Daym, aren't you just proud of being Omani?
*Holds on to the Omani flag and runs all over the place*

[old G]

Damn………all of you are homophobics……… that’s bad……….you guys should watch Oprah and have some sympathy for these guys………..

Anyway…..the gay “Khaliji” guys are all bisexual ………..and I insist……..bisexual……….they’re not completely gay…..they have feeling for girls……….i suppose……….apart from the transsexual ones who want a gender change.

The only reason they are like that is because they're first sexual encounter was with “boys”.

So the solution for eliminating….sorry……converting them…….is to provide a pleasant male-female partnership environment………….or lets say…………lock them in a room with a girl…or from an Islamic point of view………let them get married and provide the necessary means to do so…..

[Meticulousness]

How do you know that they're all bisexual? You've been with one? I'm just curious!

[old G]

They can not be gay………a gay person would be hunting for boys………in an aggressive manner…………like how girl do it………

I hope this comment does not be interpreted in such an indecent manner

[Meticulousness]

Let me ask you a question, have you even been to Oman? To Al-Batina region in specific?

[fatamooo]

Why the Batinah region?

[Meticulousness]

Because there have been some arranged marriages on Sohar. Yes, I mean man-to-man marriage bonds.

[old G]

The segregation of sexes methodology used in our Khliji societies... is sometimes extreme in a way it could encourage these kinds of behaviours.

Gay individual are what they are because they’re first sexual affection a same sex individual……

So…….if a mixed sex environment is provided…….and encouraged…..you would never witness this…….

And some of the people who were described above as gay because they wear tight clothes……well you can not judge them and label them as gay just from they’re wardrobe……….they’re just fashion victims…….they just need a fashion revolution…and maybe a cultural one too…..which starts by re-changing the TV and radio programs in Oman …………make Oman TV similar to SMAA DUBAI TV or ONE TV…….

[Meticulousness]

I didn't applaud the posts above in anyways and I can't see two men kissing each others in Oman TV? Beside, our channel lacks a feminine contribution in away, so is that what you meant? Could you enlight us more...

[fatamooo]

Whhhhaaaaaaat? Arranged marriages between males in SOHAR??!!!! Ok there is no way in hell I would ever believe that unless I saw it with my own eyes!! That's insanity!

[old G]

Sorry …you got your self all confused with my comment……what am saying is we should not segregate between sexes………..and Oman TV should provide fashion tips through media presentations ……………Not two same-sex individual making out!!

[Meticulousness]

Old G, Oman TV was never a conflic here. people in this country rarely do watch that channel anyway. Fashion shows are all over the T.V itself so thats not a problem I believe.

Yes Fatamoo, that did happen!

[old G]

But those fashion shows do not address these individuals………they address people who can afford high fashion brands like Armani or Calvin Klein…………Basically…….. and what I am saying is…….provide a show like “BIESRA’HA AHLAA” on MBC 1...

[Meticulousness]

Alright, I rarely do watch T.V then how you explain me not being gay? And what does such a show affect on us men? How would it relate in being gay?

The problem should be addressed and then solved, not throwing matters and having them jammed. The country needs those who are evolving in such a social sphere who could actually occupy a similar problem but who's paying attention? None!

[Ichigo]

In some countries, it’s been taught that Oman occupies high rates of gays. Just go to the Batina region for God's sake and you'll feel it in the air.
I think you should come to Al-Batina region to feel it somewhere else...:angry:
You should know that this gayness talk will get u to nowhere...:angry:

[Meticulousness]

Sorry my friend. I never meant to insult you but it’s a common fact, not a common error. I apologies if you were offended!

Here's a post from another forum by an Omani citizen who's originally from Sohar.


Well believe it or not, some gays in sohar were too excited about their relationships and thought that they should have the freedom to expose their gayness to all, so they decided that they should merry each other, well it wasn't long untill the police captured them, 3 omanies were sentenced to death and one emarati gay was sent back to UAE. When I said that you'd feel it in the air, that was just an expression to how fast it's spreading there. Mind my poetic disorder!

[Ichigo]

Am against the generlisation....does that in any case mean the whole of the Batinah or even the whole of the Sohar...:think: (Just not accepted)

So, all the gays in the whole world came to Sohar...:lift:

In Sohar there is history, there is glory, there are forts...for God's sake

This friend of urs, should make it clear that if it was there it is a case or even 10....but not a curse over everybody there....:angry:

No hard Feelings, really......just trying to make it all clear....:mmhmm:

[Meticulousness]

I didn't generalize anything and as I mentioned it before. There are high rates in Sohar, Swuaiq & Saham than any other areas, so I believe that's what is meant by Al-Batina region in my previous posts. Hope I made it clear now.

Tough, why does everyone think that Abdullah Bal'khair is originally from Al-Batina? So far, everybody keeps asking that recently!

Not saying that he's gay, just pointing out what is seemed to be abnomal actions.

[Meticulousness]

In Sohar there is history, there is glory, there are forts...for God's sakeAnd Saudia Arabia is teh heart of Islam, yet Saudis do head to Bahrain for liquor and sexual interactions. Isn't that like, humm commonly known? I know it doesn't mean that all of the Saudi's do so. All am saying that no matter what area you live in, it wouldn't change the fact that a bad seed might grow in.

[Ichigo]

I didn't generalize anything and as I mentioned it before. There are high rates in Sohar, Swuaiq & Saham than any other areas, so I believe that's what is meant by Al-Batina region in my previous posts. Hope I made it clear now..
Ok, then u can easily say these wilayat...
And who are these clever ppl who counted the no. of gays and devided it by the no. of the ppl and find out these interesting results...:mmhmm: :os


Tough, why does everyone think that Abdullah Bal'khair is originally from Al-Batina? So far, everybody keeps asking that recently!.
Is he....???:mmhmm: :6:

[Meticulousness]

Dunno, he tends to wear the Omani traditional dress. Let's ask him. lol

[fatamooo]

Metic - woooah you made it sound like gay marriage was legalized in the whole batinah region or something! I got freaked out cos that's where part of my family is from!!!

Well clearly it's not the case, it's just an anomaly that was quickly erased but still managed to get blown out of proportion ;)

[LovingLogic]

I think you should come to Al-Batina region to feel it somewhere else...:angry:
You should know that this gayness talk will get u to nowhere...:angry:


Ha ha:color: ha ha ha ha ha ha:XD: ha ha ha ha ha :hyper:

[QuEeN]

gayness again urgh!
it's sickin me and when gay people go too far and get married makes it's even more disgusting
it's soooo against the human nature, the community, the religions not only islam! :bored:
even animals refuse this i mean i never saw two male animals doin it:yell:
again it's so sick:mmhmm:

[ScarHead (Muhu)]

*men were created for women
*women were created for men

*men are not created for each other
*women are not created for each other
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its a law from our life laws

[nosa]

the gay issue again.. any1 wanna confess to being gay again?

[Max Payne]

even animals refuse this i mean i never saw two male animals doin it:yell:
again it's so sick:mmhmm:

Actually I saw a picture of two gay lions making out. Check Focus magazine.

Batinah gay music groups rock. :D :XD: