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yellow sapphire
03-09-02, 07:59 PM
people keep saying sunnah sunnah sunnah.let me tell u something about sunnah.
when ever I say something u say sunnah,what kind of sunnah do u have.
if u r abadi,u will use hadeeth which is right in abadi sect.
if u r sunni,u will use hadeeth which is right in sunnah.
if u r shi'3i,u will use hadeeth which is right in shi3ah.

so since one hadeeth is right in abadi but it is not right in sunni.what will u do.u will do nothing but if u r abadi u will use it and if u r sunni u will not use it.but how,it is the same hadeeth.
it is the same hadeeth.
when sunnah say hadeeth mutafaq 3alih,I will ask a question where were abadi people when sunnah discussed and came to know that this hadeeth is mutafaq 3alih.

such question in my mind since very long time,sometimes my brain just does not know where it goes,this is the logic which I want.I do not want to make problems as some people maybe think.But believe me such question has to get answer.Do not tell me shaikh folan and shaikh 3alan.if these are shikhs why they do not solve this problem.are they happy that people call them shaikh.yes I respect shaikh Khamees and Rashid and Sa3doon and 7amdoon but why they are not solving this problem.My aim is as I said before,I want to make unity of all muslims.

please and please and please,tell me if I said anything wrong above.
I do not know am I mad,am I crazy,I am what,I do not know.

Talius Brute
03-09-02, 08:17 PM
You should just use the Quran, like the Ismaelis (who, incidently don't fight people or stone people and all have nice free lifestyles whilst still being deeply religious)

Don Khaled
03-09-02, 09:02 PM
yellow sapphire, suna, shee3a, abady, or whatever, should not exist. Go to the Quran, and there you find your answer for all your question. If you wanna pray with your hands up or down, doesn't matter, as long as you are praying. And so does the list go.

Maha
03-09-02, 09:34 PM
they are right dont be in tantion ......it dosent matter whether that is sunni ,abadi or shi3i all you have to know is we are all muslims and that is most important thing ......we have the same god and same book .......:gap: :gap: :gap: :D

Desert_Sloath
03-09-02, 10:23 PM
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please,tell me if I said anything wrong above.

I do not know am I mad,am I crazy,I am what,I do not know. [/B]





As far as I can see it. You are alright. I do not see anything wrong with your views.

However, difference ought to be there in Hadiths. Hadith means 'testaments', testified by different scholars. Any difference therein is not serious but merely human error.

I agree with TB's advice. Go back to the holy Qur`An but not certainly in the way Ismailis do without ' SCRUTINY ' !

If you don't mind TB could you enlighten us how Ismailis differ from the rest ?


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IceTea
03-09-02, 11:44 PM
Y-S your logic is under panic mode, you need to fine tune it to get the correct output.

yellow sapphire
04-09-02, 12:05 PM
yes we can talk like this,I am happy that I did not say anything wrong,can we start like this till we reach to something.now,shall we say that we muslims do not know how our prophet used to pray and that why some of us is lefting their hands and some are not.
is this a strong point or no.I do not think Gibreel peace be upon him came to Mohammed peace be upon him on monday and he told him to left his hand and he came on friday and tell,no do not left your hand.

I hope I am still saying right things and thinking normally.
you know when we speak like this we will catch one end of the thread and the output will amazing.

shamsery
04-09-02, 12:57 PM
YS
I have watched your thread very carefully and your reply there in.
Here is a little tip for you.
My Dear YS,
If a right thing presented with a wrong way, commonly impact become wrong. You have a command on language, but don’t type the text and reply on line. Nothing to be hurry. Type it some where, have a look to the construction of sentence, its meaning. Make sure that there is a true reflection of your conviction.
If not, please give a second thought.
Look to the gate up of post. Does that impress you? Does it looks nice?
First impression is the best impression. Am I wrong Dear?
Try to express in a simple and plain language. Consistently.
It’s a public property and you are going to establish your views.
Religious topics are really sensitive Topics.
Please do not hart to others. If you hart them, he/she will not listen you. This will be his/her first reaction.
Mr. TB,
Does Ismaelis follows Qur’an? How you can suggest like that? I draw the attention of Moderator, Religious Sabla.
Maha,
I welcome you on English Sabla and please make some time to visit politics Sabla. We are looking for your valuable contribution there.
Dear Ice Tea,
Please consider the text not tune.
Lastly,
Quote : “If you don't mind TB could you enlighten us how Ismailis differ from the rest ?”Unquote. Desert_Solath.
I endorse your comments. Invite to learn not to quarrel.

Desert_Sloath
05-09-02, 03:53 PM
My dear YS


The important thing to a muslim is the teaching of his Holy Book.

So, as muslims, we all read the same Qur`An isn't so ?

Or have you found another Qur`An with different contents ?

So, if we all 'read' & 'follow' the same book than there is no difference at all.

We differ in our personal ' imotions ' i.e, KHUSHU`A as we stand infront of our creator.


Another thing we have to remember, as muslims we have nobody between us as individual and our creator. So while praying as individual or community we read and follow the same prayers.

But remember, any difference is based on "khushu`A" i.e, immotional bodily express before your creator. Even in prayer calls 'adhAn', we maintain different styles as a result of IMPACT from the origin.


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