Good news. AMERICA LOOSES

[ABU NOOH]

Do you know the American shares fell down yesterday because of what is happening in the middle east..

We Need to ACT
NO McDonald's.
NO BURGER KING NO HARDEE'S.
NO KENTUCKY" KFC NO CHILLI'S.
NO TGI FRIDAY NO FRIDAY'S.
NO PIZZA HUT.
NO LA POIRE (AMERICAN FLOUR)
NO SAINSBURY'S (ENGLISH BUT JEWISH)
NO CHICKLETS
NO REVLON MAKE-UP
NO BEN & JERRY
NO LEVI'S
NO RALPH LAUREN
NO CALVIN KLINE
NO ARIEL
NO LUX
NO SUN SILK
NO PAMPERS
NO PERT PLUS
NO PEPSI.
NO COCA COLA.
NO AMERICAN CIGARETTES.
NO AMERICAN CANS( Harvest, Heinz........)
NO AMERICAN MOVIES.
NO AMERICAN CARS
NO AMERICAN HOTELS (INTERCONTINENTAL, MARRIOTT, HILTON, SHERATON ...)
NO CITI BANK CREDIT CARD
NO ShowTime NETWORK
NO MORE AMERICAN OR JEWISH PRODUCT

I know this is hard for all of us, But it is doable. Remember that every dollar we give to those companies is another bullet in the body of a brave Palestinian brother. We are all determined on doing this, so join us all to grow it stronger. Don't ever think what a bottle of Coke will do. It does, every big thing
has started with small things that accumulated. This is the arm to twist to convincing those capitalists sponsoring
Israeli aggression. Money is the only language they understand so let us hit them where it really hurts.
LET US ALL STICK TOGETHER.


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The Islam is my father I have no other father.

[7ashaash]

This is not hard ,it's soo easy:

I stopped buying jeep ,,, I bought nissan safari
I stooped smoking marlboro to shisha ( I know I should stop smoking ) hahahha
there are always the japanese products better than americans.

who is crazy to by cars lik ford , jeep , chryzler they are only six months cars,, not good for driving.

so lets do it.

and if its about food I think that baplo with fish is better than mackdonalds food.
Either my mum cooks better 3orseyah than pizza_hut.

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7ashaash laken sa7i

[nzwani]

ohhh what a shame,, its really hurtful to read this long list of american products that we all use every day. I am just wondering how many Omani, arab or even Islamic products are exported to America ??!!.

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[TOTII]

well, good news but what about other gulf countreis example Soudiarab and Kuwait I have got two crown victorya they like USA made as well plan,any way when we try it will not be hard.

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[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

I will change my nick name to HATE_AMERICA http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/frown.gif


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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

Its true ,, America is very worred and trying to solve the problem and make peace ( but for Israel ).

Many news says that the American companies are started loosing ,, they don't want to announce the cause of that, but that was because many arab and islamic nations stopped buying American products.


so lets go and this is a type of jehad.

[4-ever-young]

well to all the Arabs i think that we should stop buying American-Jewish products.

It is going to make thier lives a living Hell...

I know that it is going to be really hard but if u really think about it isnt it worth it?!!
This is the least we can do to them(Americans)...

so try plz Arabs try very hard think of the Palestine!

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

It is not hard to stop buying American products, because many people started it and it was sooooo easy.:)

example like eating shawerma and home made food rather than bad bad mackdonald humbergers.:(

or buying a nice japanese car rather than buying ( ford ) two days car,which stop working in heat of oman.

so its easy and worth

[4-ever-young]

I am glad that it is easy for some ppl but it is hard for others...for example myself i love pizza hut,Heinz Ketchup,we use Ariel at home,i somtimes go to fast food outlets such as Hardeez and Bk...

so it is not so easy for some...but i have decided to not waste my money on these American -Jewish products instead i could get give money for Palestine!!

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

4-ever-young

Think about this shawerma sandwich hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

mashweyaaattttt yaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

chineese foood ohhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooo mmmmmm


Indian hot food ( sambosah ) wwwaaaaaawwwwww shmmmmmmm


or


BAPLO ,,,,,, 3ORSEYAH ,,,,, QABOOLI ,,,,,, BERIANI ,,,,,, HAREESS ,,,,,,, ETC.

Isn't it yammmmmmmmmmiiiii yammmmmmmmmm

I think it's much better than burgers Yakhhhhhhhhhhh yakhh

[Kamakazy]

if u want to eat out, try some of the Omani food outlets, such as the shawarma joints, this doesn't only decrease in the American income but in the same time increases in the Omani income. i have some friends who really does this. whenever we go out to eat they first stop and say to themselves "is this an American/Jewish product?" and even if they used to eat at that joint long ago, they would stop. this determination from my friends made me like them more and act just like them. think about it and think of the benefit from doing such things! in the end we will benefit inshallah!

[sukar zyadah]

well guys
i know that the jews are controlling the states and there is even one of them with a chance to be the vice president of the united states if gore wins. anyhow, i dont know how effective the boyscott is going to do, i know that a lot of families just depend on those products and some individuals have them as rituals of their everyday life. i hope we can overcome our fear and feeling of inferiority by doing something productive for a change.

god bless

[Sarab]

this is what I did:
I stopped going to junk food places,stopped buying anything that is marked "Made in USA" and switched to euorpean brands for the mean time..am still eating whats remaing in the fridge of the american junk but am not buying it again..
what about you..what have you done so far?:)

[Kamakazy]

i don't belive it but i have gone for one whole month without drinking Mountain Dew, oh how i miss it.

i asked the company itself how much are the Americans making out of it and they said that America gets pain 4% for every can they sell in Omani. the can itself and its contant of water, suger etc and bought from around here, not America coz it will cost them alot to ship it here. but even though i don't want America to get that 4% from me :)

[Nizwani]

Let's be frank for a moment: Can we say no to America and boycot every American products and services? The answer is definitely NO. Let me explain:

First, Sablah came into existence because of America. How. Who invented the internet? It was the US government under the DARPA (Defence Advance Research Projects)that initiated the project. Then the US universities like MIT, USC, NASA, National Science Foundation. Then the commercial sector that boosted the internet like Netscape, Microsoft, Yahoo, Hotmail. etc.

American government is still controlling the internet through web domain registration. In order for Omania.net to exist, it had to be registered. I don't know who registered Omania.net but either through Register.com or NicDirect.com or any other Approved registrar by the US government. Without registration Omania.net or any commercial (com), private (net), organization (org), education (edu) would not exist.

Also Omania.net is powered by Omantel. Let's ask ourselves: Who established or built the Omantel network for the internet? it was the American company called CISCO. So with out this company, Omantel internet would have have existed.

Secondly, almost everyone has a GSM, a regular home phone and an office phone. Without American companies we would not be able to communicate. How?

In every GSM phone there is an elctronic chip called DSP (Digital Signal Processor). American companies make 95% of the world DSP chips. These companies include Motorola, Lucent Technologies, Texas Instruments, and AMD. In addition, these chips along with their analog partners are also in the heart of regular phones. Furthermore, many PBX in Oman are made or constructed by Motorola, next to Ericson, Alcatel and others. So we have to shut down some of our PBXs if we want to boycot American products.

Third, There are three types of computer manufacturers in the world. Either the hight quality American computers such as Dell, Compaq, HP, Gateway, etc; or foreign made such as Acer, Toshiba, Sony, etc; or Dubai or Omani Assembled. In Every Computer there is ALWAYS AMERICAN hardware and software. Hardware includes microprocessor (either Intel, Cyrix, or AMD), hard drives such as Seagate or Quantum. Software includes operating systems such as WINDOWS (more than 90% of the worlds computers have windows); utility systems such as McFee Antivirus, and application softwares such as different microsoft programs (Office 2000, Picture Me,etc), Adobe, Corel. Without Microsoft IE 5, Netscape, or even Opera browsers we can not access the internet. In simple English we can not operate any computer in the world without any American hardware or software.

Forth, everyone of us has a bank account. Without American companies, we can not operate or deal with those banks. How?

Most ATM machines are manufactured by the National Cash Register (NCR) which you will see whenever you go the ATM machine next time (OR probably under AT&T which the parent company of NCR. IN addition, Alwatani, Alshamil, and OIB networks are linked by American companies such as VISA electron, PLUS, Mastercard Cirrus or Maerstro. Without those American companies you will not be able to withdraw money from Sohar if your bank is in Muscat. Also, the local networks are designed by American companies such as Sun Microsystem, Oracle.

Fifth, Almost (if not all) government agencies and ministries in Oman have networks that are American made. Ministry of Finance has a system called Human Resource Management which links it with every ministry and the ministry of Civil Service. That's how we receive our salaries as government employees. This HRM is designed by an American company. IBM is one of the biggest American companies in Oman that plays a major role in the operation of Royal Oman Police and the Oman Army. Can we imagine if we boycot those companies.

Sixth, do you think that we can exculsively rely on other countries and boycot American products and services in this new globlization era. NO. Definitely no. Because Japanese companies have American alliances or interest in them. Mazda is 40% owned by Ford. Mitsubishi, is also owned by some American companies. You do remember about two years ago how the Americans threaten Japan to boycot if the Japanese companies do not buy American parts. American won the threat. Even the Eurpean companies have or are owned by American corporations. All British car makers are owned by either American (Voxhall by GM, Jaguar by Ford, Aston Matin by GM) or by others (RR vs. VW). In addition, those European and Japanese products have American parts in them. Look at the Airbus (which makes airplanes), it imports 40% of its parts from America (inluding engines, tyres, etc.)

Seventh, without American parts Seeb Airport would not function, the Air Traffic Control system was built by an American company called Raytheon. We fly on Boeing aircraft which still has 65% market share worldwide. Even Airbus has 40% American parts. Qaddafi still flys on his American built Boeing 727 despite him saying all the bad things about America.

Eight, who is exploring oil in the region? Can we live without Chevron, Mobile, Texaco, or even the American-parterned companies such as BP, Shell, or Shlumburger. These companies sophisticated networks are powered by American companies.

Nineth, Most electricity in the region is generated by American companies such as General Electric. Can we live without electricity?

Tenth, can we live without the Dollar? without the dollar the Omani Rial is worth nothing. Without the dollar we will not have the Omani Central Bank, which essentially no commercial banks. Without the dollar cannot sell our most valuable commodoty: Oil. Nobody will buy our oil with the rial or any other currency because oil is trade in the US dollar. That's a fact.

Finally, America only sells us 7% of its products but we rely almost 100% on American products and SERVICES. The examples mentioned above highlight how dependable we are on American products and services. Those idealists who think we can boycos American products and services are only dreaming as they do not realized the magnitude of American existence in our system. In all those points, I did not mention Mcdolanld's, Burger King, Pizza Hut, or even American cars which I know you can live without. I mentioned the currency, the banking sector, the internet, the telephone system and other vital systems or components that make up our living today.

Any comments are welcome. But please be pragmatic and not idealistic or nationalistic who doesn't know what he is talking about.

[Nimr Mal Zibala]

because of the middle east situation, oil prices
go up hence the dollar will become stronger becasue
the purchasing of petrol is in dollars. Strong
currency means higher prices, higher prices means
greater value and more expensive products, services and standard of living and
economic growth, making more profit for corporations and government. If the price rose too fast before the money was printed then maybe it would have negative effects but it didnt So america didnt lose....

[Kamakazy]

Hi Nizwani,

Well, u had an interesting post u got there, with so much information, a bit too much. If what u said is all true then what do u think the future hold for us? Just a small point about ur post. What we are doing here in boycotting American products and when I say we I mean us the people of Oman. If u want the government to cut its relations with America, then that’s a big mistake. Its true that we are totally dependent on the Americans from the chairs we sit on for our meals to the toothpick that we use after it. Not speaking of the food that we eat or how we eat it, or what we use to eat it. Don’t u think that we are like this little kid who needs a silver spoon to be fed everyday? When will we be dependent on our selves? When will we feed our own people with out own hands? When will we relay on our selves? When?

About ur post, u talk about the government sector and to make matters easy you are right the government of Oman can’t say no to America, but the people can. Let me explain why. If the government cuts its relations with America the people can call for a new government, wipe the old one out and get another one, which will do a good job and so on. But if the people choose to boycott the Americans then who will wipe out the people? An example of this is with the Palestinians. They have been fighting with the Jews for over 50 years and were the Jews able to wipe them out? No.

Do u know that the Arabs and mostly the Middle East buys most its products from America? Allow me to explain. The ME is known for all the money it makes from oil. That is why america is targeting us. Most of Asia gets its products from Japan, China, Taiwan, etc. Europe gets its products from Britain, Germany, etc. and so on. I am not saying that they don't buy from the Americans too, they do, but not as much as we do, the Arabs.

Let us cut on what we have our hands on. And inshallah in the future we will have a country dependent on itself which stands on its own feet.

[Nimr Mal Zibala]

We do not have a fully democratic government, which means we can't get a new government if somebody wanted new one. We can elect our Majils as shura member but what do they do? Do they ask us what we want? cuz i certainly didnt have anyone sending me anything in the post asking about what i thought or wanted changing. All i hear about the majlis is that they talk and talk and then they talk some more, then they read teh newspaper tehn they have some tea then they they carry on talking.
I also heard that they only meet once a month? What kind of government is that? I'm surprisd anyhting gets done with a governemetn that meets once or twice a month. It should be every day and night, they should work like donkeys because they are working for Omanis and Oman not themselves. And if they want to try and deal with at least 10 percent of Omani people then they should work till they sweat and bleed on the ground.
If we stopped buying american then they would stop buying Omani products, and our export is quite vital because once the oil finishes what will our great grand children have ? Nuthing. America will not be affected at all if we stop buying american but we will be affected severely. The fact is america can survive easily if everyone in the world stopped buying american stuff. They are self sufficient and the land they live on is very very fertile and fruitful.

[warda]

What has been written here has really opened my mind to the big picture. This is good. Anyway,it seems that it is definitely unlikely that we can be independant of all American things. It is simply not possible in the near future or even in my lifetime. If we did we would surely suffer. But I am proud to hear that many people are taking action at home. That is a start I guess, and I'm not going to be the one to discourage it. Thankyou.

[Kamakazy]

Dear fishfood,

America is not the only country that buys oil from Oman. and even if they were and they stopped we got other ppl to sell our oil to. in addition, we got LNG (Liquified Natural Gas) a somewhat substitute for the oil.

think about it this way, the whole Arab/Islamic countries cutting its ties with the American, 35 countries against one.

but if these 35 countries joins hands to help one another, we would be far better than the Americans. but what can we do about it?

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Kamakazi
The 1st thing America and western countries did is ( brain wash ) they made us think that there are no way we can win and you can see the results in these replies.:(

My brother it will take some time untill our people recognize that they were wrong about this.:(

[warda]

Don't forget Kamakazy that if America decided to not buy our oil,so will many other of its allies!

[warda]

HQL,
What makes you think that whoever thinks that America does control some countries is brain washed. Why don't you think that you could be wrong about that. You don't know everything either.You could be wrong too

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warda
My kuwaiti friend here doing PHD in American Deplomacy in middle east and sometimes he show me some of his secret reports ,I am not talking from the air my sister .
You know that I travelled to around 30 ( thirty ) countries and in each single country the people are in hate with Americans because they know that the American goverment playing the main role in others economy and democracy.:(

Go to your dictionary and see what these words means :

( al esteshraaq )
( el mostabshereen ) and read what are the roles of these people in the Islamic countries.
The main example of these people in oman the guy named ( Thomas ) who was in charge in Rahma hospital in mutrah during the sixteeth and seventeeth,, This guy was ( mustashriq ) and many like him came to Oman and other countries in the region ,, even the hospital was called in his name.
If you do not believe me then how this kuwaiti guy here got information about someone was in Oman in 1970 just tell me how ?
This is just an example ( wa ma '7afeya kana a3dham ).
There are many names very close to our goverments I can't mention it soorrrrryyyyy.

[warda]

So i am right to say that Americans do control. you just confirmed it.so why did you change your story and say no it is not true?

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warda
Are you reading the replies will and then writting or you just replying ?????
You are the one who was not agree that the americans controlling our brains ,,, this time please go and read back what I wrote and what you wrote.;)

[warda]

It looks like we don't understand each other so I will write again....I believe that Americans do control many countries. What I am asking you is why do you think that it is also brainwashing people. Now you tell me what exactly do you mean by that and did you mean that it controls individuals or are you talking about governments.
And stop saying things like "you don't read you only write" because I think that it is also a problem from your side. Sometimes you don't understand something too. So I think that you are sometimes wrong .

[Kamakazy]

i'm a bit lost myself!

now who is the one who thinks that America controls others and who is the one who thinks that America brain washed the others, correct me if i am wrong but HQL thinks both right? and warda think ummmm, what do u think :) ????

[Nimr Mal Zibala]

1) Anyone who works in the diplomatic service can find out information about anyone. So for example HQL if i went to the ministry of something or other or an Embassy i would go and ask why was Rahma hospital called Rahma hospital and they would say " There was a man called thomas who worked there etc etc etc.." So the information that you got from your friend is not really very secret..at all...
2) When i said USA would stop buying our exports i did not mean oil-if you go back and check u will see i was talking about exports when the oil finishes. Other exports such as copper gas any raw materials, omani honey, omani frakincence, perfumer ingredients. Things like that.
I think you should all stop saying he or she doesnt read this because the fact is everyone "skim" reads through posts and not always reads it fully. Personally i don't have the time or the motivation to read ALLLLL posts fully and thoroughly, if i did i would be here for hours.
3) The only one doing brain washing here is you HQL and making threats of blowing up and killing people. I don't see any americans telling me i should be a christian or i should buy their products. Companies advertise their product or service and if i am impressed with it i will buy it.
4) If all 35 arab nations got together and enforced USA trade embargo that might be seen as a form of Cartel also, hence International Trading Standards Organsitaion (not sure what it is called exactly but its something like it) Will probably put an embargo on all 35 counties or ridiculously high export tax, stop all other imports as Cartels are not welcome in any business environment. It is also dangerous to other global businesses as this "cartel" will have the power to drop prices or increase prices as they see fit therefore enabling them to smash competition on a world wide scale not only US. Monopoly yes, cartel no. Anyway i dont know exactly how a cartel works but i beleive in ?1978/79? OPEC was a cartel and as you can see it no longer is because Trade Laws stopped it somehow.
5) Economics plays a big role in political decisions and poicies dont forget that. If you try and attack politically they will counterattack at you economically and vice versa.
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WEll DONE FISH AHEM AHEM THANK YOU THANK YOU

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warda
About the brain wash :
Most the people in arab world thinks that no one can beat Americe and we have many examples in this sablah like fishfood and others,which is wrong ,because for example(Abdullah ibn Rawahah radheya allah 3anho with just 3'000 muslims beaten 200,000 kafers yes 200'000 kafers ).
The Westerns and Americe introduced there foods and other products to us and people eat and use these things every day more than any thing and they think that they can't live without it which is wrong because they can live without it.
in 1973 king faisal decided to stop selling oil to west , Americans told him that they will stop providing food for him ,,, his answer was that he and hi people can live with the date and camel milk as people did before.

Don't you think that this is a brain wash.


mr fishfood
About Dr Thomas ( The hospital I mentioned was called before Thomas Hospital and many people still call it the same in that area ),,, and the information is written in books not from the embassy as you mentioned.
You said that no one asking you to be chrestian : my dear are you in your full mind ,, do you think that they will ask you to do so , no my dear ,, tehy will work it very slowley 1st by letting you go away from your religion 2nd make you sure that you are nothing without them 3rd leave you confuse is your religion is true or not ,, then you will change your religion by your self not by joining the chrestianity but just simply by stop praying and beeing like them and drinking and .etc.
By the way people like you has already beeing like them and no need to change you more than this because you are defending them rather than definding your religion and your people.

[warda]

Thankyou for your explanation HQL. I'm not going to argue because I'm now bored of this. Let's agree to disagree.

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warda
In this I agree with you.:)

[Nimr Mal Zibala]

I think you have missed completely what i am saying. I am talking as a semi-knowledgeable person on economics. Economics palys a big part on a country's future. I am not tlaking about religion. In fact i dont even thin kyou read past the first line of what i said.......