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Equality
08-08-02, 12:42 AM
I would like to share this quiz with Ikhwani WA Akhawati,

Who is the prophet , whose life story was connected with 3 shirts? and how?

samy
08-08-02, 01:12 AM
sayedna yousef alyehe wa ala nabeyena mohammad al salaat we alsalaaam
1. when his turned shirt was brought to his father to prove his death.
2. when the wife of Egyptian minister turned his shirt from behind
3. when he gave his shirt to his brother so his father can relies that he is a live.

Equality
08-08-02, 01:54 AM
you are right samy, and thank you

next quiz is

Which salat was the first one performed facing in the direction of Ka'aba ?

Equality
09-08-02, 12:22 AM
since there was no answer for today i will give it you

salat aldhuhur .
next quiz:

There is only one companion that has been mentioned by name in the Qur'an. Who was he?

Bimzoori
09-08-02, 10:40 PM
Samaki,,very useful, and very entertaining..please do continue with your questions..

I hope we get more participants :)

Equality
10-08-02, 03:34 AM
Which prophet, first of all, wrote
(Besmi Allah Al Rahman Al Raheem)?

Bimzoori
10-08-02, 10:27 AM
any hints?

IceTea
10-08-02, 10:29 AM
The answer is "Al Nabi Suleiman Alayhi al Salam" when he sent the letter to "Balqees" Queen of Saba.

Bimzoori
10-08-02, 10:43 AM
You could very much be right IceT..

We find the story of prophet Suleiman (pbuh) and the Queen of Saba' (Balqees) in Suret AlNaml..

"(The Queen) said: ' Ye chiefs! Here is -delivered to me- a letter worthy of respect. It is from Solomon, and is (as follows): 'In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful...'' "[27:29-30]

Equality
10-08-02, 10:45 AM
you are right ice tea.

Bim, it is mentioned in Quran surat alsabaa.

Next:
which prophets are still alive, they are four?

Bimzoori
10-08-02, 10:47 AM
Samaki, can you please clarify your next Q.. do you mean, what are the four prophets who were alive at the same time?

Equality
10-08-02, 10:54 AM
Bim ,
I mean the what are the names of the prophets who did not die, but Allah moved them up, so they are still alive.

IceTea
10-08-02, 10:59 AM
samaki, I don't think any of the profets still alive all died. And if you mean profet "Essa" (PBUH) is raised up by Allah, then the describtion of the word "raised" in the Quran it means raise of level and degree and not raised of profet "Essa" himself. "Wa Allah A3lam"

Equality
10-08-02, 11:12 AM
In islam we know that that sayyiduna Issa did not die apposit what shristians believe, he (peace upon him) has been as you said raised to smaa, there are three other prophets have been raised to al samaa, who are thay?
one is Issa (puh), you are right, still three.

IceTea
10-08-02, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by samaki
In islam we know that that sayyiduna Issa did not die apposit what shristians believe, he (peace upon him) has been as you said raised to smaa, there are three other prophets have been raised to al samaa, who are thay?
one is Issa (puh), you are right, still three.

This is what I'm saying samaki, sayyiduna Issa (PBUH) not raised and the word raise which is mentioned in the Koran mean raise of value and degree and not raise of himself as human being.

Please read the following which I got it from the arabic sabla :

Issa Alayhi Alsalam (http://glory.vosn.net/~omanian/vip/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=004261)

Equality
10-08-02, 11:39 AM
You are right icce tea, this is what Ibadiyah say, but still other mghahib believe he is not died. but what the people in arab sablah make it very clear and also make sense. thank you for the clearancce.
Now what is the answer of my q, come on?

yellow sapphire
10-08-02, 11:48 AM
by samaki
There is only one companion that has been mentioned by name in the Qur'an. Who was he?

Abdullah Ibn Omar Radhiya Allhu Anh
Walssaam
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samaki
what is going on.

Bimzoori
10-08-02, 12:16 PM
There is only one companion that has been mentioned by name in the Qur'an. Who was he?


If am not mistaken, I think its Zayd Ibn 7aritha..

In suret Al-A7zab, Aya 37..

"...Then when Zayd had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: In order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers...."[33:37]

this was Zaiyd ibn 7aritha who was one of the first to enter Islam..He was freedman of the prophet who loved him as a son and gave him in marriage to his own cuzin Zaynab, but the marriage turned to be unhappy..

IceTea
10-08-02, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by samaki
You are right icce tea, this is what Ibadiyah say, but still other mghahib believe he is not died. but what the people in arab sablah make it very clear and also make sense. thank you for the clearancce.
Now what is the answer of my q, come on?

You are welcome samaki.
So that question dropped.

Whats next q ?

yellow sapphire
10-08-02, 01:43 PM
Bimzoori
yes Bimzoori,his name is Zayd,but I do not know Zayd bin Khamees or Zayd bin Khalfan,the Qur'an said Zayd.
Qur'an said only Zayd.

Equality
10-08-02, 07:24 PM
Bimzoori, Yellow saphire, sorry
you are right i have a mistaken, in the name of alsshabi who has mentioned in al quraan,

as you said bi mzoori, his name is Zaid bin Harithah, i would like you if possible to drop my post regarding the wrong answer,

Bimzoori
11-08-02, 02:06 AM
Samaki, done..

Who will provide us with the next Q?!

Equality
11-08-02, 04:16 AM
Quiz

Name this Companion:

Like his father he was the sworn enemy to the Prophet (SWS). He fled Mecca when the Muslims conquered it, and he embarked on a ship to cross the sea. A storm rocked the ship and so the people said let us repent to Allah. When he arrived to the shore, he said: "By Allah if no one can save me in the sea but Allah, then no one can save me on land but Him." He went back to the Prophet (SWS) and announced his Islam. He was martyred in the battle of Ajnadeen.

samy
11-08-02, 09:43 AM
i think he is Ikremah ebn Abi Jahll..
the other prophets u asked a bout r
Issa
Yahya
Idreess
i do not know the fourth one

Equality
11-08-02, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by samy
i think he is Ikremah ebn Abi Jahll..
the other prophets u asked a bout r
Issa
Yahya
Idreess
i do not know the fourth one

Samy, thank you for the Answer, Mashaa Allah, Allah Yinawwar Aleik, wa-aleina,
the other prophet, is Seyyiduna Ilyas (As), Wallahu Alaam.

QUIZ

WHAT IS THE SMALLEST & THE BIGEST ANIMAL MENTIONED IN ALQURAN?

Bimzoori
11-08-02, 10:23 PM
Samaki/Samy would you please explain how the four prophets mentioned (Eesa, Yahya, Idrees & Ilyas may peace be upon them) are still alive.. this is new information for me :) Jazakum Allah khair..

Bimzoori
12-08-02, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by samaki


WHAT IS THE SMALLEST & THE BIGEST ANIMAL MENTIONED IN ALQURAN?

The biggest Animal mntioned is the Elephant..from Suret Al-Feel..

"Seest thou not how your Lord dealt with the companions of the Elephant?"[105:1]

Comapnions of the elephant = troops of Abraha Al7abashy who invaded Mecca with a large army, in which were some elephants (the same year our prophet was born, 3am alfeel)..


As for the smallest animal, it could be ALnaml (Ants)..

From suret alnaml..

"At length, when they [prophet Solomon and his hosts] came to a (lowly) walley of ants, one of the ants said: 'O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you (under foot) without knowing it' "[27:18]

samy
12-08-02, 10:00 AM
it is not exactly still alive by the meaning of the word .. but they were raised to allaah .. ( physically ) as u may know from the story of sayedna issa alyeh alsalaam . that is why we consider them as of no known physical death .

IceTea
12-08-02, 10:50 AM
Samy death is death, and the raise of Issa alayhialsalam means raise of value and degree and not raise of body as it appears. And if u are saying that some profets still alive then this will be against the Quran verse "كل نفس ذائقة الموت". So everybody will die.

The link which I provided ( click here (http://glory.vosn.net/~omanian/vip/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=004261) ) above proves the story of Issa alayhialsalam and he is not physically raised.

Equality
12-08-02, 12:51 PM
It is now very clear like sun in the midle of the day, that Isa (pbuh) is dead as same as all prophets. there is no physical raising nor comiing back to the earth again. whom still beilve that Isa (pbuh) still life or physically raised to allah or he (pbuh) will come to the earth again, i would like them to read the whole fatwa in another thread here, wastaghfiru Allah Aladheem
KUl IBNI ADAM KHATTA, WA KHEIRU AL KHTTA-EENA AL TAWWABUN.

Equality
12-08-02, 01:10 PM
QuiZ

What was the lie of Seyyiduna Ibrahim (pbuh)?

IceTea
12-08-02, 02:11 PM
He told his people that the largger statue destroyed the other statues (their God according to them) and he told them to ask him if he can speak.

Equality
12-08-02, 03:49 PM
First of all Mr. Bimi, your answer for the previous question is right,
The smallest animal is Ant and the biggest one is elephant.

while regarding the prophets who are still a live , i came to know clearly that all prophets are dead, and i posted a fatwa written by one scholar, it is same what our scholar here in oman believe.

Ice tea, this another trick that we wrongly learned , all prophet never lie, and i will explaine to you here

Ibrahim(pbu) is one of the most prominent prophets of Islam. Allah(swt) addressed him as 'friend'. He is the chief architect to build the original Kaba,and he is the only prophet who we Muslims mention in each prayer. We seek to Allah(swt) to bless us as He blessed the followers of prophet Ibrahim(pbu).

Most of the Muslims have come to accept that Ibrahim(pbu) used to tell lies. They believe that according to records, he told lies in three major occasions! They gather false or weak Hadith to support their ignorant claims, they gather endorsement by contemporary scholars who also think Ibrahim(pbu) told lies. Most Muslims accept the pronouncement of these scholars on its face value and never question if such a great prophet could ever do such a crime. These Muslims read one or two incorrect translations and think well, the Quran says Ibrahim(pbu) lied. Whereas, in reality the Quran never said that Ibrahim(pbu) lied. It is these scholars of Islam who are acting dishonestly and falsifying the truth. They are suggesting that telling occasional lies are accepted norm of Islam. Prophets did it!!!! The Quran specifically tells in verse 3:161 that no prophet could act dishonesty.

We know the incidence of Idol breaking by prophet Ibrahim(pbu). Time and again we have heard stories of how he broke the idols with an axe, sleazy details of how he placed the axe on the shoulder of a big idol. Then when he was questioned, how he told the audience that he did not break the idols, rather the big idol broke the smaller ones!

These scholars invented various sections and sub sections of self made injunctions to declare that under certain circumstances it is permissible to tell lies! You will find lengthy writing by such scholars whereby they justify and mystify Ibrahim's lies. They will argue with you saying how could Ibrahim(pbu) tell the truth in front of the audience who would have killed him if he told the truth! So according to them it was OK when he resorted to falsification for the sake of truth!

Will someone answer if he could not tell the truths in front of an audience why was he a prophet in the first place? What kind of a prophet was he who preached falsehood and lies rather than the Truth? Was he preaching Islam mixed with falsehood and lies, because he was afraid of crowds?
Analysis of the versa
Allah ta'aala saya:
(Qaala Bal F'alahu , Kabiruhum Hatha F'asaalu hum In Kaanu Yantiqun)
Translation:
He said But, of course, by all means, indeed, rather someone did it The big one of them This Ask them, question them If They can speak, they can talk,


It is very important to note that there is a small punctuation mark signifying pause (waqf) in the sentence right after 'Qaala bal f'aalahu'. According to Arabic grammar, the meaning of the punctuation (waqf) is much like comma (,) usage in English. This sign alone or in combination of circle or other word means a very brief pause. The reader may pause here briefly, but is recommended to continue with the sentence. The sign simply demarcates one part of the sentence from the other in bringing out the meaning. If this sign means absolutely nothing, why is it inserted here? Why is the sentence not like another sentence where the sign is not at all there? Obviously, the insertion of the sign bears some significance. Strangely enough, the under-mentioned scholars refuse to pause or acknowledge the presence of this punctuation mark, rather they want to pause at a different place of their choice.

When Ibrahim(pbu) was asked whether he broke the idols, his reply was very tactful. Neither did he say 'Yes', nor did he say 'No'. His answer was passive "someone did it." This "someone" could be him, another person or the big idol or just anybody. There was no dearth of truth that someone truly did it. Instead of asking him, he wanted the audience to ask the victims directly. Let the victims testify if they can. The audience realized that these idols that they think as their gods, couldn't even protect themselves! How on earth these idols can be their gods! They realized futility of idol worshipping.

In the Arabic verse 21:63 there is no word that would mean "Nay". So how on earth these commentators found this negation? What are they trying to justify? The verse does not say Ibrahim(pbu) blamed the biggest idol. If he said "No" - that is a lie, if he said the biggest idol broke it, that is another lie. So it is a lie upon a lie. Some commentators made him lie once, some twice. But all of them made him guilty of several other offences in addition to telling lies. How did the scholars commit such a major mistake? The answer is simple:
1st , they ignored the punctuation sign,
2nd, they changed the position of words in the Arabic verse,
3rd, they changed the grammar of the Arabic verse,
4th, or they blindly followed the interpretation of Ibn Kathir et. al., without critically analyzing the verse
5th, and most likely these scholars were influenced by the oft-repeated story of Ibrahim telling lies

All the commentators translated the verse as: Bal haza kabiruhum fa'lahu. According to them the meaning of this transposed verse is: Rather/No, This big one of them did it. This translation is grammatically not correct to the Arabic words. Fa'lahu, a passive participle, does not mean "did it" - rather "someone did it".

The Quran does not say Ibrahim(pbu) used an axe to break the idols. He could have broken those fragile idols by hand, by smashing them on the floor or by striking them with any object. Use of an 'axe' was probably invented to bring in some ferocity in the prophet's temper and action. The Quran does not say the infamous 'axe' was placed on the shoulder of the biggest idol. This is another invention of the story-tellers. Benefit of doubt may be given to the use of an 'axe' , but Ibrahim never ever placed the axe on the shoulder of the biggest idol.

In order to validate the conventional understanding and one weak (false!) Hadith, should we still accuse Ibrahim(pbu) of false statement? Is this just a lie or is there other serious offence in here? Many people incessantly tried to justify that Ibrahim could tell lies, or it is permissible to tell lies under certain circumstances. The moment we put the word "No" in Ibrahim's(pbu) mouth, we are making him culprit of several other grave offence as under:
1. Ibrahim(pbu) is telling an outright lie. A lie is a lie is a lie.
2. When Ibrahim(pbu) blamed the biggest idol, he is avoiding accountability by blaming a third person (object).
3. When asked if he broke the idols, Ibrahim(pbu) is giving a false deposition in front of the gathering.
4. By admitting that the biggest idol broke the smaller ones, Ibrahim(pbu) is standing a false witness.
5. Ibrahim(pbu) being a staunch critique of idol worshipping, at least at that moment admitted that biggest idol has ability to act and do things that idols cannot do. This is nothing but supporting idolatory.

Will any civilized society and nation of past and present accept false witness, false deposition, lies, shifting accountability etc as acceptable practice? Is any of this acceptable practice in Islam? Does Islam teach us these crimes? If you commit any of these crimes, will Allah forgive you? You tell me.

IceTea
12-08-02, 04:06 PM
samaki thanx very much for your explaination, and its true that profets never lie, may Allah forgive us all, ameen.

Talius Brute
12-08-02, 04:14 PM
Why would the Quran tell prophets not to lie if Mohammed was to be the last prophet?

Hmmmm

Equality
12-08-02, 08:27 PM
Salam aleikum,

some thing is mentioned in Aquran, it is breathing but has no soul (it is not human, not animal not plant) what is it?

Talius Brute
12-08-02, 08:34 PM
we are here to discuss serious issues..I'm gonna have to edit and delete posts that have nothing to do with the main topic

Equality
12-08-02, 09:13 PM
Excuse me i think you are lost, hell sabla not here

Equality
12-08-02, 11:11 PM
Salam aleikum again,

quiz of the day

some thing is mentioned in Aquran, it is breathing but has no soul (it is not human, not animal not plant) what is it?

Bimzoori
12-08-02, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by samaki
Salam aleikum again,

quiz of the day

some thing is mentioned in Aquran, it is breathing but has no soul (it is not human, not animal not plant) what is it?

could it be the "morning" ?

From suret Al-Takweer..

"And the Dawn as it breathes away the darkness.."[81:18]

"...wal subhi itha tannafas.."

Equality
13-08-02, 05:14 AM
You are right Bimi, yes it is moorning, and it means it appears and shining after being covered with darkness of the night.

QUIZ,
Four creatures (living beings), are created without mother and father?

Equality
14-08-02, 09:05 AM
salam
QUIZ,


Four creatures (living beings), are created without mother and father?

Bimzoori
14-08-02, 03:55 PM
Good Q..

I have two in my mind right now..

1-Adam (pbuh)
2-The she-Camel of prophet Salih

cant remember the other two :lost:

samy
14-08-02, 05:25 PM
3. assaa sayedna mossa( stalk of syedna Mussa)

4. kharoof sayedna Ibrahim ( Lamb of sayedna Ibrahim)

Equality
14-08-02, 11:44 PM
1the Answer:

1. Sayyiduna Adam (PBUH)

2. Umuna HAWAA (PBUH)

3.KEBSH (SHEEP) sayyiduna Ismail (PBUH)

4. NAKATU (CAMEL) sayyiduna Saleh (PBUH)

QUIZ

What was the first currency in Islam?

Shahrazad
15-08-02, 12:01 AM
Umm.. Deenar ?! or maybe Dirhams ?!

Equality
15-08-02, 12:21 AM
salami silent tune,
i think you need to choose one answer , i am sure you can do it. what kind of dirham or what kind of dinnar or what kind of riyal ?
good luck

Equality
17-08-02, 07:50 AM
I am raising the question again:

What was the first currency in Islam?

Equality
18-08-02, 01:27 AM
since no body answer,
it is golden dinar.

what are the main features of sayiduna Musa (pbuh), that make Sayyiduna Shu'ayb (pbuh) to hire him (pbuh), and what kind of job? it is mentioned in alquran?