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clouds
11-07-10, 10:57 PM
The Speed of Light in The Qur'an! Islam is the TRUTH

Allah swt said in the Holy Quran

يُدَبِّرُ الْأَمْرَ مِنَ السَّمَاء إِلَى الْأَرْضِ ثُمَّ يَعْرُجُ إِلَيْهِ فِي يَوْمٍ كَانَ مِقْدَارُهُ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍ مِّمَّا تَعُدُّونَ (32:5)

32:5 { He rules (all) affairs from the heavens to the earth: in the end will (all affairs) go up to Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be (as) a thousand years of your reckoning}.

the EXACT speed of light was calculated from this above verse by one muslim Egyption scientist.
watch this video and see for yourself another live miracle of the TRUE words of Allah swt in the Holy Quran.

read more here http://www.speed-light.info/

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Rozan
12-07-10, 12:17 AM
Thank you for sharing. :)

Lacrymosa
12-07-10, 12:48 AM
It's no wonder.... The universe creator knows everything........ ;)

Neena
12-07-10, 05:45 PM
Prais to allah!

freemind
12-07-10, 07:26 PM
I have some doubts here.

where does this 12000 come from? 1 Lunar Year is 1 orbit of the moon around the earth, so 1000 Lunar Years is 1000 Lunar Orbits, not 12000.

Speed of light is approximately 300,000 km per second.

a. One lunar year is 27.3 earth days.

b. So 1000 lunar years is 27,300 earth days.

c. Speed of the moon is 1.023 km per second (Wikipedia), so the distance travelled by the moon in 1000 lunar years is 2.41 billion km.

d. That equates to 27,900 km per second, which is ONE THOUSAND times less than the speed of light in a vacuum.

If the Quran meant to tell us the speed of light, why didn't it say "HERE IS THE SPEED OF LIGHT"?

There is never a direct reference to anything that astronomy knows today in ancient texts. Only someone with today's knowledge, today's mathematics, today's science and today's instruments can manipulate the simple numbers mentioned in completely different contexts and make it into something resembling today's known facts.

NicoBambi
12-07-10, 07:38 PM
Hope it's a joke.

Russo_turisto
12-07-10, 08:55 PM
To freemind: I wonder if the earthly month and the moon year are confused on purpose, so that we could get that 12000 figure.

I can't bother counting the equation cuz I simply don't understand the ayah, it's put so vaguely and indistinctly that I don't even know if it's the Moon that is meant by it as the affair or whatever, can somebody help me out?

Booth
12-07-10, 09:39 PM
[وَلَوْ أَنَّ قُرْآنًا سُيِّرَتْ بِهِ الْجِبَالُ]
(And if there had been a Qur'an with which mountains could be moved,) Allah says, `If there were a Book among the previous Divine Books with which the mountains could be moved from their places, or the earth could be cleaved asunder, or the dead speak in their graves, it would have been this Qur'an and none else.' Or, this Qur'an is more worthy to cause all this, because of its marvelous eloquence that defies the ability of mankind and the Jinns, even if all of them gather their forces together to invent something like it or even a Surah like it. Yet, these idolaters disbelieve in the Qur'an and reject it. Allah said.


[وَلَقَدِ اسْتُهْزِىءَ بِرُسُلٍ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَأَمْلَيْتُ لِلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ ثُمَّ أَخَذْتُهُمْ فَكَيْفَ كَانَ عِقَابِ ]
(32. And indeed (many) Messengers were mocked at before you but I granted respite to those who disbelieved, and finally I punished them. Then how (terrible) was My punishment!)

freemind
13-07-10, 09:01 AM
To freemind: I wonder if the earthly month and the moon year are confused on purpose, so that we could get that 12000 figure.

I can't bother counting the equation cuz I simply don't understand the ayah, it's put so vaguely and indistinctly that I don't even know if it's the Moon that is meant by it as the affair or whatever, can somebody help me out?

Don't know if the earthly month and moon year are confused on purpose or no, but what I want to tell people is please research before you believe anything blindly. There are major flaws in the way the equation is carried out, and no scientific organizations have approved of this.
Besides even if you think logically, Speed of light = 12000 Lunar Orbits/ 1 Earth Day ????
Besides where does the ayah say anything about the moon at all ?

I am not saying the Quran is wrong, but that Ayah has nothing to do with the speed of light. Its just some clever movement of numbers here and there to reach the pre-conceived conclusion.
What is wrong, is wrong, even if its conclusion lies within our current circle of belief.

Russo_turisto
13-07-10, 09:44 AM
I am not saying the Quran is wrong, but that Ayah has nothing to do with the speed of light. Its just some clever movement of numbers here and there to reach the pre-conceived conclusion.
What is wrong, is wrong, even if its conclusion lies within our current circle of belief.

Even though most people are aware of it, it takes a believer to shriek "Subhan Allah!" before they take the time to assess things critically, as the scientific method implies.

Indeed, 12000 moon orbits and 1 earthly day seem to be taken quite randomly and dovetailed in recent times exactly to "prove" the divinity of the Qur'an and for mutuwwas to shriek "Subhan Allah!" once again.

black N white
13-07-10, 12:01 PM
Sub7an Allah ... la ilaha ila allah ( there is no god but allah)

clouds
13-07-10, 11:37 PM
I am not a scientist or a mathematician to argue with those who don't agree with that fact but if you want more details go ahead and read this link which answers your doubts above:

http://www.islamway.com/english/images/library/nonmuslims/velocity.htm

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Booth
13-07-10, 11:41 PM
^ Woo! It has references too, see Russo!

freemind
14-07-10, 11:14 AM
I am not a scientist or a mathematician to argue with those who don't agree with that fact but if you want more details go ahead and read this link which answers your doubts above:

http://www.islamway.com/english/images/library/nonmuslims/velocity.htm

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To prove a point in Quran you are giving references from an Islamic website. Its like to support Bush, some1 gives you a link to American media website. They will obviously support it :D
Here is an independent review of the above derivation by a professor in University of Mathematics.

http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/sciandf/eng/c_in_quran.txt

Manta
14-07-10, 01:04 PM
To prove a point in Quran you are giving references from an Islamic website. Its like to support Bush, some1 gives you a link to American media website. They will obviously support it :D
Here is an independent review of the above derivation by a professor in University of Mathematics.

http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/sciandf/eng/c_in_quran.txt:DWho told u that independent review...:mmhmm::no: