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M333
19-07-02, 12:43 PM
hi bussiness men & women!

i dont know how to start but i just want to know why r organizations r looking for less qualifyed ppl?

ok i will explain more, for example: i have seen in many organizations here in oman that they rather take a non-graduate over a graduate! and their reason is to cut cost!!!!!! they dont wanna pay more salary to the graduates! ...they just wanna take non-graduates and give them a very small salary (which they will accept rather than sitting at home without a job) and then just train them to do ONE THING and work like a mechine and NEVER grow in that organization!!!!

my question is, why r they doing this? dont those organizations want to improve their business? they should employ graduates who can help them grow and bring in new ideas and rais the level of work and quality! this way business will be better and the economey will improve!.......then what is the use of someone who paid soooo much money just to study outside for 4 or 5 years and thne come back here and get paid no more than 450 rials MAX!!??

dont u agree with me? do u get what i mean?

mimosa
19-07-02, 01:10 PM
Let me play Devil's advocate here:

Why would a graduate with no experience expect to start on more than OR 450? What would a graduate bring to the company that a non-graduate would not?

In the longer term, a specific in-depth technical knowledge gained through higher education might become useful as the employee rises up through the profession, and he will gain a bigger salary along the way. The one without that knowledge will have to try harder to progress.

But in the beginning, neither have any skills to bring and both need training. Maybe the graduates aren't getting the jobs because they have an inflated sense of their own worth :D

If I was running a private company and wanted a new person in the sales department, what would I look for? Well, if I was looking for someone without previous experience to learn the job and progress, then graduate or non-graduate would be even to start with: The criteria would be about the personality, intelligence, committment and work-ethic of the candidate, not whether one of them had just done some limp 'business degree' that took five years instead of three while they partied in the US!

Every employer wants someone 'hungry', someone who expects to work hard to learn and progress. A man-boy in his mid twenties who's never done any work but expects twice the salry of the guy next to him is not very attractive.:rolleyes:

Seham
26-07-02, 02:25 AM
U asked a complex question therefore the answer would be complex .... I think mimosa has covered some very important points .... however, I disagree that "a graduate" and "a non-graduate" are equal when starting a new job!
I think as a graduate u go through "broad scenarios" which make u have the ability to make a difference! However, this is not the case in Oman .... many graduates end up doing the same as the non-graduate with out troubling themselves into introducing new ideas ... which explains why non-graduates have a better market!
However, it also depends on ur convencing abilities when applying for a job i.e convencing the manager what u can offer them if u were employed and being well prepared i.e have done a thorough investigation about the company and therefore .... u can introduce new ideas to them by knowing what their "problems or deficiencies are"!
I think it is very important to be fully prepared when applying for a job (read books which guide u) another think as Mimosa said accepting a low paid job initially then proving to ur managers ur abilities will definitly ensure u go up the ladder much more quickly than the non-graduate!
Finally, the road to success is "rocky" ....persistance .... persistance is the key to success!

Orion
26-07-02, 02:13 PM
Are you telling me I slaved over my Bachelor's and Masters' for 5 years for nothing? Of course note...

While Seham and Mimosa basically covered all the bases own why an Omani company would do such a thing ... lets make one thing clear, education is an investment in yourself and all the hardwork in the world will not get you anywhere in the real world (unless you're a genius or entrepreneur with an original workable idea). I'm neither.

The majority of people need some sort minimum standard of education to be accepted into a professional environment and climb the slippery slope known as the corporate ladder...

Lastly, companies shouldn't be forced to take one sort of educated person... they should be free to choose what's best for the company (even if the hire some on less educated).

Seham
26-07-02, 02:44 PM
Thank u Orion for emphesising on the difficulty of getting a BSc and an MSc .... I don't know why some people like to make it sound like it is "a piece of cake"!