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habiby
11-07-02, 04:30 PM
One of the signs, or big signs for the end of this world, and which followed by judgement day, is that sun will be appears from West rather than East direction.

This morning I spent with one of the scholars, he have this understanding of that, he said that the sun here is not the physical sun which we see it every day, he claim that the sun is the raise of Islam from West and will cause the re- birth of Muslim from thier deep sleep with respect that Muslim in East i.e Arabs and Asians are not following Islam properly will be guided from Western Muslims and that is from USA, Europe.

As the statistic shows the large number of those who are converting to Islam become ever more, it will be those the one who will bring the Islam to us in Arab word and the rest to follow the proper teachings, leading to be saved from Hell

How you perceived this thoughts ?

abu Suleiman
11-07-02, 08:43 PM
habiby,

True that the sun of Islam will rise up again,
but the sun rises from the west is one of big signs, as u said, of Last Day. Joining the idea that muslims from west will rise up Islam with sun rises from the west is not compatible.

shamsery
12-07-02, 12:27 AM
Those who has converted to Islam, there is no doubt about their love and dedication for Islam. Sun is the source of light, which remove darkness. We must not go through only the literary meaning of holly Quran rather we shall try to realize the philosophical depth of holly Quran. Ignorance is darkness. Islam removes the darkness. Please do not simplify the verse. It might have other dimension too. Allah knows better.

abu Suleiman
12-07-02, 08:32 AM
Sham,
There was no verse was mentioned nor being simplfied.

shamsery
12-07-02, 12:44 PM
Dear Abu Suleiman,
A/S.
Please do not call me as "Sham". Sham is a name of Hindu God.
Plase go to the top of article written by Habiby. “One of the signs, or big signs for the end of this world, and which followed by judgment day, is that sun will be appears from West rather than East direction.” This is verse from holly Quran. I just wanted to mean that.
Allah Hafiz.

abu Suleiman
12-07-02, 03:30 PM
OK shamsery,
Im sure u got confused.
What is mentioned by habiby is not a verse
unless u refer to Prophet Ibrahim when chalenged that king kafer.
Ibrahim told him that (Allah brings the sun from east u bring it from west)