Christians and Jews view of Islam… Reality

[samy]

Now let us talkabout what is happening in their real world guys … As a Muslim I have to believe of both Judaism and Christianity or otherwise I am not a faithful Muslim… these are the three holly religions worshipping Allah Almighty on earth for real
I do relies that Christians do say that Mohammad ”may peace be up on him and all prophets of Allah” is nothing but a man who wanted to join Christianity and asked to be a priest where he was rejected by church priests on that area at that time and he is not a messenger of God like Jesus and mousses .. so he made what is called Islam based on his readings of both The bible and the torah.. ( hashaa lelaaah wa taalaa ammaa yaqooloon ) ..
It is still there … and that what they teach in their churches when it come to Islam .. recently there was an international conference debating a bout the three holly religions and at the final statements the Christians and the Jews representative refuse to declare that Islam is a religion of God … it is true and u can go and check it back .. infact they are not usually calling those who practice Islam as Muslims .. but frequently they r calling them Mohammadies .. well at the end everyone has the right to believe of whatever he like .. but this will never change our opinion about the holly Christianity and Judaism because simply it is fundamental in The Holly Islam and we differs than others in the way that we do have a religion to believe of it all and not selectively choosing what we like and what will fit our instincts desires.
So .. what is your view a bout the above sad and unaccepted kind of racism?????

[Arabian Princess]

In Islam, we beleive in both Judusim and christianity, we even beleive taht what they are calling for (the basic fundementals) are part what we have in our Quran. Ofcourse, somethings that we beleive were changed are things that we should not beleive in (exp. Juses being God and so on)

When I talk with my christian friend, sometimes we go through the differnt stories in thier bible and in our Quran, the similarity are very much that no one could say the we have a different belieive of what they have.

Many christians do not beleive in Prophet MOhammed (peace be upon him) like Jews do not beleive that Jesus was massanger of God. It is all because religion came gradually but some people refuses to accept that anything would replace thier beleife.

What I beleive is that Islam is the last message because it has conqured all the basic past beleifes. There is no message that came after Prophet Mohammed that had teh same impact on humanity as the message of Islam!

For chritians to understand what am talking about, they have to understand thier religon too. They will find similarties and they could come to a conclusion that christianity is part of Islam.

[samy]

That is right AP .. it is the last and the ONLY approved religion by Allah Almighty .. ( and those who adopt any other religion than Islam will not be accepted ...).. still they do not admit that Islam is a religion of Allah as like other previous holly religions and as u said the good and non manipulated views of prophets mousses and Jesus were all leading the humanity to the perfect end of God's message .which is Islam.. wish all the humanity relies that before it is really late .

[MoonChild]

Of course not. If they accepted Islam, they would be Muslims not Jews or Christians.

Judaism came first. Christianity arose because SOME of the Jews believed that Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the Messiah. Christians decided to convert non-Jews to their religion too and it worked. The only reason there are still anyone we call "Jewish" is that many of the Jews of the last 2,000 years don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah of prophecy, and are still waiting.
Christianity made no such prophecy of a new messenger, so Christians haven't been taught to expect anyone else, they've been taught that Jesus brought the final word.

To Muslims, Mohommed was the "successor" to Jesus, in a sense he was God's final attempt to bring the true message to mankind. Islam is the third "generation" of the monotheistic religion that started with Judaism.

1st generation - Judaism
2nd generation - Christianity
3rd generation - Islam

Jews don't believe in Christianity OR Islam. Christians "believe" in Judaism (the Old Testament of the Bible is the original Judaic text), but think it was superceded by Jesus. But they don't believe in Islam. Muslims believe in Judaism and Christianity as historically valid but think that Mohammed superceded all of this as the final answer (just like Christians think Jesus had the final answer).

It is all quite logical, and not "racist" at all, only 3 different "stages" of a religion that spans thousands of years.
Christians don't understand why you don't believe THEIR religion any more than you don't understand why they don't believe YOURS. Because you hold different beliefs as to who had the last word.

[Wanderer]

Originally posted by MoonChild
...so Christians haven't been taught to expect anyone else, they've been taught that Jesus brought the final word.


... and that he's coming back.

If I only had a dollar for every end-times phrophecy my Mum and her gang made.

[Mr Tickle]

"I do relies that Christians do say that Mohammad is nothing but a man who wanted to join Christianity and asked to be a priest where he was rejected by church priests on that area at that time"

not true

[DorellaM]

You did an excellent job of summing that up Moonchild;)

[Arabian Princess]

I did not say anything other than what you said Moon Child, the only thing I added, there wasnt any message after Islam that said that Islam was wrong.

so logicly (if we beleive that Judsim, Christianity and Islam are in the same line) Islam "until now and we beleive forever" is teh final message since there isnt a message that came after it!!

[MoonChild]

I know we said largely the same thing :)
but from the non-Muslim perspective, just realize that the Jews don't believe there was any message after Abraham (or Moses, whoever came last!), and the Christians don't believe there was any message after Jesus!

Actually, Mormons believe that Joseph Smith is the final prophet in the "Judeo-Christian" line ... he supposedly had an angel hand him gold tablets in the early 1800's in New York state... although they have mysteriously disappeared (funny how the "proof" always seems to conveniently disappear...)

I disagree with your statement that if Christians really studied Islam they would come to the conclusion that Christianity is "part of" Islam. They believe as fervently in their religion as you do in yours! Most would simply conclude that Islam is "copying" the major beliefs of Christianity.

[samy]

Most would simply conclude that Islam is "copying" the major beliefs of Christianity!!!!!!!!!!!!!

moonchild your post was cool .. but could u clearify more on the a bove statement...

just a question :)

[IceTea]

Profet Mohammed (PBUH) was the final profet and even during "al Isra wa mirrage" trip he leads all previous profets in a prayer in "al aqsa" mosque as a sign of this.

[MoonChild]

Originally posted by samy
Most would simply conclude that Islam is "copying" the major beliefs of Christianity!!!!!!!!!!!!!

moonchild your post was cool .. but could u clearify more on the a bove statement...

Easy :)
Christians think they are right. And they came first. So... if there is anything in Islam that resembles Christianity, it must have been copied from Christianity.

If a father and son do things in the same way, do you think the son learned it from the father, or that the father learned it from the son?

[sanwin25]

In fact Christians do not say anything at all about Islam and Mohammed. None are mentioned in the Bible so we have nothing to say about either of them.

Now since Islam came after Christianity, it is obvious that you will have much to say about it.

That my friend, is not racism. That is reality.