Ramadhan 2009 Q&A

[um albanin]

This thread was planned much earlier than the stories of the holy Quran.

I have several questions in my mind would like to see if sabla members could have the general knowlage about islam . I will start with a simple question today. let see the answars.


When we read the Quran , most of the stories are about bani israel (children of Israel)..

إِنَّ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ يَقُصُّ عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَكْثَرَ الَّذِي هُمْ فِيهِ يَخْتَلِفُونَ (76)
Verily, this Qur'ân narrates to the Children of Israel most of that in which they differ.

The question is :

Who Is Israel ? this person has another name. What is it?

[Rummy]

Well if my memory doesn't fail me, they are the sons of Prophet Ya'aqoub (Jacob) Peace Be Upon Him.

[Storm]

^^^ Yes they are

The sons of Prophet Ya'aqoub (Jacob) Peace Be Upon Him.

[Fact HearT]

^^^ Yes they are

The sons of Prophet Ya'aqoub (Jacob) Peace Be Upon Him.

:yes::yes::yes::yes:

[Tinta]

Ya ya, agree with all the above :)

[um albanin]

Thats correct. Israel Is the other name for Yaqub(PBUH) .

Now Fiqh Question:



What is to be done in this case?

You are behind an imam who was praying asr (afternoon ) prayer but he didn’t sit for Tashahud (tahiyyat) in the 2nd rak3a instead he stood up & continue.

Same in case a female was praying alone & didn’t sit for the 2nd rak3a….how to correct this mistake.

[Rummy]

Okay if a person is behind the imam , he is supposed to return to the sitting position even if he completely stood up, because his role is to follow.

As for the female praying alone, if she's close to sitting then she should go back to sitting. However, if she is closer to standing then she does not go back to sitting but rather completes her prayer and makes the forgetfulness prostration at the end of the prayer.

Hope I got it right :os

[Storm]

You are behind an imam who was praying asr (afternoon ) prayer but he didn’t sit for Tashahud (tahiyyat) in the 2nd rak3a instead he stood up & continue.



As far as I know ( if am not mistaken ) one of the prayers behind him should get the imam attention by rising his voice to let him know that he missed it and he should add one more raka'a to make up the missing one !





Same in case a female was praying alone & didn’t sit for the 2nd rak3a….how to correct this mistake.

She need to do the same by adding one more raka'a at the end before ending her prayer to make up the missing one !

[IceTea]

how to correct this mistake.

Tashahud (tahiyyat) is considered a pillar (not a branch) in the prayer, so without it the prayer is invalid.

One of the people behind the imam should remind him by saying "subhan Allah" then the Imam will sit down. Otherwsie they need to repeat the prayer if no one reminded him in time.

Same goes for the woman, she should sit down if she remembered it while standing otherwsie she needs to repeat the prayer again.

Storm, there is nothing called adding one more raka'a.

[BrAiKi]

Thats correct. Israel Is the other name for Yaqub(PBUH) .

Now Fiqh Question:



What is to be done in this case?

You are behind an imam who was praying asr (afternoon ) prayer but he didn’t sit for Tashahud (tahiyyat) in the 2nd rak3a instead he stood up & continue.

Same in case a female was praying alone & didn’t sit for the 2nd rak3a….how to correct this mistake.

Nothing should be done, the first tahiyyat is not a must.

[BrAiKi]

Israel is the name of Jacob PBUH, not his sons :p

[IceTea]

I have revised my pervious answer.

I think the imam should continue if he is already standing up and do forgetfulness prostration at the end.

[um albanin]

Everybody gave some parts of the correct answer , I would give Rummy 3/4 , But at last Ice-tea got it right.


The 1st Tashahhud is sunna & not Rukn. so missing it is not a big deal but we should do the forgetfulness prostration just before tasleem.

9 Pillars of Prayer , no Prayer without it (means repeat salat if you miss anyone) :

Niyya (in your heart)
stand (when you can)
Takbeer (al-i7ram)
Readin al-fatiha with Basmala.
Ruku3 (all)
sujuud (all)
2nd tasha-hud
Tasleem.
& last but not least....khushu3 (submissiveness) imagine ..its a MUST

(from the book : qamoos Al-salat, sh. Khalfan altiwani)



قَدْ أَفْلَحَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ (1)الَّذِينَ هُمْ فِي صَلَاتِهِمْ خَاشِعُونَ (2)
Successful indeed are the believers.Those who offer their Salât (prayers) with all solemnity and full submissiveness.

Ice-Tea: I think Storm ment if you forgot how many rak4a you prayed, then you may do an extra as you dont know wether you have done 3 or 4 , But then you prostrait after the tasleem in this case. otherwise you better repeat the whole thing

[BrAiKi]

Thanks for this nice & informative thread Um Al Banin. Waiting for more questions

[Lime]

Question: A traveler is going to go somewhere quite far away from his/her country and stay there for about 7 days during Ramadhan, does he or she fast?

I know that during your flight, you do not fast and that you repay for it later, by fasting an extra day or two after Ramadhan, depending on how many days you missed.

Now, I've asked this question to many people from different mathaheb [trans]and I've come up with three very different answers.

1. A Sunni person told me, the person does not fast during the flight, however once they land, they have to fast unless they are a female on her period.

2. Another Sunni person said, no they are a traveler traveling for a short time, you do it3am il masakeen [Feeding of the poor] every day and they are automatically excused from fasting and do not have to repay for it later. [However I thought the people allowed to do this are pregnant ladies, people with sicknesses such as Diabetes and such]

3. A Shiite person said, the person is completely excused from fasting because they are a traveler.

What do you guys think?


Btw, thank you for this thread! It's useful.

[um albanin]

According to Ibadhi sect, A person is free to fast or to break his fast during traveling, whether he is in flight or off the flight.

There are several hadeeths to support this cant find them now as an electronic version .


أَيَّامًا مَعْدُودَاتٍ ۚ فَمَنْ كَانَ مِنْكُمْ مَرِيضًا أَوْ عَلَىٰ سَفَرٍ فَعِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَيَّامٍ أُخَرَ ۚ وَعَلَى الَّذِينَ يُطِيقُونَهُ فِدْيَةٌ طَعَامُ مِسْكِينٍ ۖ فَمَنْ تَطَوَّعَ خَيْرًا فَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَهُ ۚ وَأَنْ تَصُومُوا خَيْرٌ لَكُمْ ۖ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ (184)

184] Observing Saum (fasts)) for a fixed number of days, but if any of you is ill or on a journey, the same number (should be made up) from other days. And as for those who can fast with difficulty, (e.g. an old man, etc.), they have (a choice either to fast or) to feed a Miskîn (poor person) (for every day). But whoever does good of his own accord, it is better for him. And that you fast, it is better for you if only you know.

Please ask a sunni scholar regarding your questions, he might have a different answer , as we dont differ much on these things. my answer was according to our scholars.

[Reluctant]

Question: A traveler is going to go somewhere quite far away from his/her country and stay there for about 7 days during Ramadhan, does he or she fast?

I know that during your flight, you do not fast and that you repay for it later, by fasting an extra day or two after Ramadhan, depending on how many days you missed.

Now, I've asked this question to many people from different mathaheb [trans]and I've come up with three very different answers.

1. A Sunni person told me, the person does not fast during the flight, however once they land, they have to fast unless they are a female on her period.

2. Another Sunni person said, no they are a traveler traveling for a short time, you do it3am il masakeen [Feeding of the poor] every day and they are automatically excused from fasting and do not have to repay for it later. [However I thought the people allowed to do this are pregnant ladies, people with sicknesses such as Diabetes and such]

3. A Shiite person said, the person is completely excused from fasting because they are a traveler.

What do you guys think?


Btw, thank you for this thread! It's useful.

I only know this according to Shia fiqh. One is a musaafir (traveler) as long as they intend to stay at the destination to which they travel for 10 days or less.

If you go on vacation during Ramadan and intend to stay at the destination for more than 10 days, then you are not a musafir, and starting on the first day you arrive you must pray full prayers and there is no rukhsa (concession) from fasting.

A hadith about this:

وعنهم ، عن أحمد ، عن علي بن الحكم ، عن عبدالملك بن عتبة ، عن إسحاق بن عمار ، عن يحيى بن أبي العلاء ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : الصائم في السفر في شهر رمضان كالمفطر فيه في الحضر ، ثم قال : إن رجلا أتى النبي ( صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ) فقال : يا رسول الله أصوم شهر رمضان في السفر ؟ فقال : لا ، فقال : يا رسول الله ، إنه علي يسير ، فقال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ) : إن الله عزّ وجل تصدق على مرضى امتي ومسافريها بالافطار في شهر رمضان أيعجب أحدكم لو تصدق بصدقة أن ترد عليه .

Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq said, "The one who fasts in travel during the month of Ramadan is as the one who breaks the fast in it in residence." Then he said: "A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Messenger of Allah, do I fast during the month of Ramadan (while) in travel?" So he said: "No." So he said: "O Messenger of Allah, for me it is easy." So the Messenger of Allah said: "Verily Allah, exalted is He, has given charity to sick of my Ummah and its travelers by iftar in the month of Ramadan. Would one of you appreciate if he should give charity that it be returned back to him?"

You can view more here: http://www.tashayyu.org/hadiths/fasting/prohibition-of-fasting-while-traveling

[um albanin]

As we all know, many of our prophets are related directly to one another, many are sons & grand sons.


There is these two prophets are related with an In Law relationsship. Who are they. Bring a verse from the holy Quran that shows this relationship.


I know, this one is easy!!!

[IceTea]

Question: A traveler is going to go somewhere quite far away from his/her country and stay there for about 7 days during Ramadhan, does he or she fast?

I know that during your flight, you do not fast and that you repay for it later, by fasting an extra day or two after Ramadhan, depending on how many days you missed.

Now, I've asked this question to many people from different mathaheb [trans]and I've come up with three very different answers.

1. A Sunni person told me, the person does not fast during the flight, however once they land, they have to fast unless they are a female on her period.

2. Another Sunni person said, no they are a traveler traveling for a short time, you do it3am il masakeen [Feeding of the poor] every day and they are automatically excused from fasting and do not have to repay for it later. [However I thought the people allowed to do this are pregnant ladies, people with sicknesses such as Diabetes and such]

3. A Shiite person said, the person is completely excused from fasting because they are a traveler.

What do you guys think?


Btw, thank you for this thread! It's useful.

I think this will answer your question:



Breaking fast is sunnah for one traveling in a manner which allows joining and shortening of prayers. The type of traveling that allows you to shorten you prayers is the one where breaking your fast recommended. The Prophet (sall Allâhu’ alayhi wa sallam) said, “It is not righteousness to fast while you are traveling.” It is recommended for the person not to fast while he/she is traveling because of this hadeeth. The meaning of the hadeeth quoted above is that it necessarily isn’t wrong if one fasts but whether he fasts or not, the reward is the same..
The Sahaaba themselves had difference of opinion regarding this. Some really preferred to fast even though they were traveling, while the others thought that they should not fast because Allah has provided them with a facility. We have the narration of Hamza ibn Amr Al Aslamee (Radi Allahu Anhu), a sahaabee of the Prophet (sall Allâhu’ alayhi wa sallam), who asked the Prophet (sall Allâhu’ alayhi wa sallam), “Should I fast while traveling?” and the Prophet (sall Allâhu’ alayhi wa sallam) replied, “If you wish fast, if you wish break your fast”
Also, the Prophet (sall Allâhu’ alayhi wa sallam) said “Upon you is the permission of Allah granted to you, so accept it from Him.” And the Prophet (sall Allâhu’ alayhi wa sallam) also said, “It is a permission from Allah, so whoever takes this permission that is good and whoever chooses to fast there is no sin upon him” Allah is offering a traveler this permission and one shouldn’t turn it down as Allah is offering something and it is better if one does not reject an offer from Allah.
If you put all those together it comes down to your own choice as to what you want to do and what you feel is closest to the truth. And we shouldn’t look upon the others and say or think in our minds like “Why are you doing that??” because the sahaaba themselves followed either one of these opinions and never questioned each other or criticized each other for it. It doesn’t matter which opinion one follows but from the evidence provided here the second one seems to have a more proof supporting it. And we know this from the Sharee’ah that Allah doesn’t encourage over zealous behavior when it comes to the deen. One should do all that he can to practice the deen and take all the facilities provided to him by the Sharee’ah.source (http://ibnalhyderabadee.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/fiqh-of-fasting-recommended-to-break-fast-when-one-is-travelling/)

[BrAiKi]

As we all know, many of our prophets are related directly to one another, many are sons & grand sons.


There is these two prophets are related with an In Law relationsship. Who are they. Bring a verse from the holy Quran that shows this relationship.


I know, this one is easy!!!

Shu'aib and Moses. Shu'aib is the father in law of Moses.
Can't remember the verse now plus that I don't have arabic keyboard to search :XD:

[Rummy]

^^
You beat me to it!!

Moses married Prohpet Shu'aib's daughter (Sephora), the following ayahs state that Moses married one of Shu'aib's daughters.


قَـالَتْ إِحْدهُمَـا يأَبَتِ اسْتئْجِرْهُ إِنَّ خَيْرَ مَنِ اسْتَئْجَرْتَ الْقَوِىُّ الاَْمِينُ (26) قالَ إِنِّى أُرِيدُ أَنْ أُنْكِحَكَ إِحْدَى ابْنَتَىَّ هَـتَيْنِ عَلى أَنْ تَأْجُرَنِى ثَمَـنِىَ حِجَج فَإِنْ أَتْمَمْتَ عَشْراً فَمِنْ عِنْدِكَ وَمآ أُرِيدُ أَنْ أَشُقَّ عَلَيْكَ سَتَجِدُنِى إِنْ شَآءَ اللهُ مِنَ الصَّـلِحِينَ (27) قَـالَ ذلِكَ بَيْنِى وَبَيْنَكَ أَيَّمَا الاَْجَلَيْنِ قَضَيْتُ فَلاَ عُدْونَ عَلَىَّ وَاللَّهُ عَلَى مَا نَقُولُ وَكِيلٌ (28)

028.026 Said one of the (damsels): "O my (dear) father! engage him on wages: truly the best of men for thee to employ is the (man) who is strong and trusty"....

028.027 He said: "I intend to wed one of these my daughters to thee, on condition that thou serve me for eight years; but if thou complete ten years, it will be (grace) from thee. But I intend not to place thee under a difficulty: thou wilt find me, indeed, if God wills, one of the righteous."

028.028 He said: "Be that (the agreement) between me and thee: whichever of the two terms I fulfil, let there be no ill-will to me. Be God a witness to what we say."

[IntI]

Um Al Banin very good idea to start such a thread,can I post my qs sometimes here.not from holy quran stories?

[Abu Eliyas]

good thread

[Gunner]

^^^^Yup, Moses was Shuaib's farmer too.

[um albanin]

Welldone !!! Thats correct. so far so good.

Dear Intl,
since its a sticky thread, you may want to ask the moderators.

[um albanin]

What Is the deepest point on earth? Bring verses from the holy quran to support this geological truth?


A bonus question , since the ES members are good in solving my questions :cute:


To whom were said these verses of Quran? & By whom?


وَابْتَغِ فِيمَا آتَاكَ اللَّهُ الدَّارَ الْآخِرَةَ ۖ وَلَا تَنْسَ نَصِيبَكَ مِنَ الدُّنْيَا ۖ وَأَحْسِنْ كَمَا أَحْسَنَ اللَّهُ إِلَيْكَ ۖ وَلَا تَبْغِ الْفَسَادَ فِي الْأَرْضِ ۖ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُفْسِدِينَ (77)
But seek, with that (wealth) which Allâh has bestowed on you, the home of the Hereafter, and forget not your portion of lawful enjoyment in this world; and do good as Allâh has been good to you, and seek not mischief in the land. Verily, Allâh likes not the Mufsidûn (those who commit great crimes and sins, oppressors, tyrants, mischief-makers, corrupts)

[BrAiKi]

The deepest point is the dead sea I guess.
The Romans Verse:
غلبت الروم ۖ في ادنى الارض وهم من بعد غلبهم سيغلبون
سورة الروم

And I don't know the answer to the second question. I'll take a guess, Prophet & King David PBUH

[Rummy]

The lowest point on land is the Dead Sea that borders Israel, the West Bank and Jordan. It's 420 meters below sea level.

The ayah is as follows:

{ الـم . غُلِبَتِ الرُّومُ . فِي أَدْنَى الأَرْضِ وَهُم مِّن بَعْدِ غَلَبِهِمْ سَيَغْلِبُونَ }

"The Romans have been defeated in the lowest land, but after their defeat they will be victorious"

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As for the bonus question: It was said to Qarun (Korah) and the his people (People of Moses) were the ones that said that to him.

[Cherry]

Braiki Vs Rummy :p

Great thread!

[IceTea]

The lowest point on land is the Dead Sea that borders Israel, the West Bank and Jordan. It's 420 meters below sea level.

The ayah is as follows:

{ الـم . غُلِبَتِ الرُّومُ . فِي أَدْنَى الأَرْضِ وَهُم مِّن بَعْدِ غَلَبِهِمْ سَيَغْلِبُونَ }

"The Romans have been defeated in the lowest land, but after their defeat they will be victorious"

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As for the bonus question: It was said to Qarun (Korah) and the his people (People of Moses) were the ones that said that to him.

I think you got 10/10 and Braiki 5/10.

Let us wait for um albanin confirmation.

[Rummy]

^^^
And so we shall wait :D

[BrAiKi]

lol I could've easily googled the ayah and found the answer, but I choose to use my non-googlish unit :p

[um albanin]

& Braiki is right regarding his last comment :yes: , The questions are mainly a " Halaqat dhikr " so , its good to get input from others, whether right or wrong doesnt matter since we will get the correct answer at last.

Jazakum Allah khayr.

[um albanin]

How many prophets were mensioned in the Quran ? name them.



Mension the 3 islamic poets who were ment in the red verses.


وَالشُّعَرَاءُ يَتَّبِعُهُمُ الْغَاوُونَ (224) أَلَمْ تَرَ أَنَّهُمْ فِي كُلِّ وَادٍ يَهِيمُونَ (225) وَأَنَّهُمْ يَقُولُونَ مَا لَا يَفْعَلُونَ (226) إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَذَكَرُوا اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا وَانْتَصَرُوا مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا ظُلِمُوا ۗ وَسَيَعْلَمُ الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا أَيَّ مُنْقَلَبٍ يَنْقَلِبُونَ (227)

[224] As for the poets, the erring ones follow them,[225] See you not that they speak about every subject (praising people - right or wrong) in their poetry?[226] And that they say what they do not do.227] Except those who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism), and do righteous deeds, and remember Allâh much, and vindicate themselves after they have been wronged (by replying back in poetry to the unjust poetry (which the pagan poets utter against the Muslims). And those who do wrong will come to know by what overturning they will be overturned

[um albanin]

How many prophets were mensioned in the Quran ? name them.

25 ,

ADAM , iDREES, nOAH, hOUD, sALIH, LOUT, iBRAHIM, iSMAEL, yAQUUB, YUSUF , SHUAIB, mUSA , hAROON, dAWOOD, sULAIMAN, aYUUB, dHU-aLKIFL, yUNUS , iLYAS , aLYASA3, zAKARIA, yAHYA, iSSA, mOHAMMAD (SAAW) (Peace be on them)




Mension the 3 islamic poets who were ment in the red verses.

Hassan Bin Thabit.
Abdullah Bin Rawaha
Ka3b Bin Malik.

[um albanin]

A man Dies & left a wife, 2 girls , a grandmother , a father & abrother.


State the fraction of inheritance for each above?


If the the man had a son, what fraction of inheritance the brother will get?

[IceTea]

Mension the 3 islamic poets who were ment in the red verses.

Hassan Bin Thabit.
Abdullah Bin Rawaha
Ka3b Bin Malik.

Thanks for the information.

But in general it refers to any poet with the criteria in the verse, right?

[um albanin]

Like many other verses in the holy Quran , they were decended for certain events , but are used as a general rule.

العبرة في عموم اللفظ لا في خصوص السبب

eg:
when Prophet Luqman said to his son :


يَا بُنَيَّ أَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ وَأْمُرْ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَانْهَ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ وَاصْبِرْ عَلَىٰ مَا أَصَابَكَ ۖ إِنَّ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْ عَزْمِ الْأُمُورِ (17) وَلَا تُصَعِّرْ خَدَّكَ لِلنَّاسِ وَلَا تَمْشِ فِي الْأَرْضِ مَرَحًا ۖ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ مُخْتَالٍ فَخُورٍ (18) وَاقْصِدْ فِي مَشْيِكَ وَاغْضُضْ مِنْ صَوْتِكَ ۚ إِنَّ أَنْكَرَ الْأَصْوَاتِ لَصَوْتُ الْحَمِيرِ (19)

[17] "O my son! Aqim-is-Salât (perform As-Salât), enjoin (on people) Al-Ma'rûf (Islâmic Monotheism and all that is good), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief in the Oneness of Allâh, polytheism of all kinds and all that is evil and bad), and bear with patience whatever befalls you. Verily, these are some of the important commandments (ordered by Allâh with no exemption).[18] "And turn not your face away from men with pride, nor walk in insolence through the earth. Verily, Allâh likes not any arrogant boaster.[19] "And be moderate (or show no insolence) in your walking, and lower your voice. Verily, the harshest of all voices is the braying of the ***."

we all know that this what prophet Luqman advised his son, But we also know that this what Allah SWT wants us to follow.

[BrAiKi]

I don't think Luqman is considered a prophet!
Waiting for your next question :D

[um albanin]

True Braiki. My mistake, He was just an extremly wise man.
will change.
The new question is 2 post above.

[BrAiKi]

sheesh that reminds me of school days' fiqh lessons.
I can't answer that, but will be waiting to read the answer.

[IceTea]

A man Dies & left a wife, 2 girls , a grandmother , a father & abrother.


State the fraction of inheritance for each above?


If the the man had a son, what fraction of inheritance the brother will get?

I feel the science of 'meerath' is a good example to test your IQ :)

Of course with the help of Quran verses I will give it a try:

The wife gets 1/8
Two girls get 2/3
Grandmother nothing (or maybe 1/6?)
Father 1/6
Brother nothing

In the second case the brother gets nothing also.

[um albanin]

Or 6+/10

The wife gets 1/8

Two girls get 2/3

Father 1/6

Grandmother nothing Because there is a father . If the father is dead then, the grandma gets it.


Brother Gets the rest of the inheritance (because the deceised man didnt have a son .& if the the brother is dead & had sons, they get the inheritance)

In the second case the brother gets nothing also, because the dead man had a son.

(Surat Aln-ssaa & hadeeths from sunan Altarmudhy)

[um albanin]

In which Month & year in Hijry was fasting in the month of Ramadhan a must for muslims?




The word Kafir means 3 different things in the holy qurani. List them.
(A bonus if you bring some of Quranic verses as example)

[IceTea]

Or 6+/10

The wife gets 1/8

Two girls get 2/3

Father 1/6

Grandmother nothing Because there is a father . If the father is dead then, the grandma gets it.


Brother Gets the rest of the inheritance (because the deceised man didnt have a son .& if the the brother is dead & had sons, they get the inheritance)

In the second case the brother gets nothing also, because the dead man had a son.

(Surat Aln-ssaa & hadeeths from sunan Altarmudhy)

Thanks um albanin.

I thought the brother doesn't get anything in two cases if there is a son and if there is a father.

Can you post the hadeeth of the inheritance of the brother?

[um albanin]

‏حدثنا ‏ ‏عبد بن حميد ‏ ‏حدثني ‏ ‏زكرياء بن عدي ‏ ‏أخبرنا ‏ ‏عبيد الله بن عمرو ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عبد الله بن محمد بن عقيل ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏جابر بن عبد الله ‏ ‏قال ‏
‏جاءت امرأة ‏ ‏سعد بن الربيع ‏ ‏بابنتيها من ‏ ‏سعد ‏ ‏إلى رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏فقالت يا رسول الله هاتان ابنتا ‏ ‏سعد بن الربيع ‏ ‏قتل أبوهما معك يوم ‏ ‏أحد ‏ ‏شهيدا وإن عمهما أخذ مالهما فلم يدع لهما مالا ولا تنكحان إلا ولهما مال قال ‏ ‏يقضي الله في ذلك فنزلت آية الميراث فبعث رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏إلى عمهما فقال أعط ابنتي ‏ ‏سعد ‏ ‏الثلثين وأعط أمهما الثمن وما بقي فهو لك ‏
‏قال ‏ ‏أبو عيسى ‏ ‏هذا ‏ ‏حديث حسن صحيح ‏ ‏لا نعرفه إلا من حديث ‏ ‏عبد الله بن محمد بن عقيل ‏ ‏وقد رواه ‏ ‏شريك ‏ ‏أيضا ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عبد الله بن محمد بن عقيل


‏وأخرجه أحمد وأبو داود وابن ماجه

[IceTea]

In that hadeeth there is no mention of the father.

I got this one:

قال ابن قدامة : " ولا يرث أخٌ ولا أختٌ لأب وأم ، أو لأب، مع ابن ، ولا مع ابن ابن ، وإن سفل ، ولا مع أب .

أجمع أهل العلم على هذا بحمد الله...". انتهى " المغني"
source (http://www.islam-qa.com/ar/ref/130287)

It says that the brother or sister doesn't inherit when the son or the father exist.

Anyway let us proceed with other questions.

[Rummy]

The answer to the first question is on the Month of Sha'aban on the Second year of Hijra.

As for the other question, I'll come back to it later.

[um albanin]

Rummy , This question was posted yesterday.

ce-Tea Thanks for the Hadeeth.

you are right brother, & actually my mind all the way is that there is a mother in between not a father.(sorry for that) .

In shaa Allah wont bring fiqh question next time.will ask the mods change it.

& actually ( I thought you wanted a hadeeth that support to give the uncle (brother of the diceised) the inheritance while they were only two girls (no son) with no male in between.




Any way to answer the last questions :

In which Month & year in Hijry was fasting in the month of Ramadhan a must for muslims?
Fasting in Ramadhan was orded in the 2n Hijry in the month of sha3ban.


لم يختلف أهل السِّيَر في أنّ رمضان قد فُرِض في السنة الثانية من الهجرة.

قال الطبري في حوادث السنة الثانية من الهجرة: "وفي هذه السنـة فُرِض -فيمـا ذُكِر- صومُ رمضان، وقيـل: إنه فرض في شعبان منها
.



The word Kafir means 3 different things in the holy qurani. List them.
(A bonus if you bring some of Quranic verses as example)


Sh. Ahmed Alkhalili : In his book, shar7 the book Nuur-Addin Assalimy ; Ghayat Almuraad Fi ale3tiqaad.


1. As literaly: means to cover,
as the farmer may be called Kafir , as he covers the seeds with sand.

اعْلَمُوا أَنَّمَا الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا لَعِبٌ وَلَهْوٌ وَزِينَةٌ وَتَفَاخُرٌ بَيْنَكُمْ وَتَكَاثُرٌ فِي الْأَمْوَالِ وَالْأَوْلَادِ ۖ كَمَثَلِ غَيْثٍ أَعْجَبَ الْكُفَّارَ نَبَاتُهُ ثُمَّ يَهِيجُ فَتَرَاهُ مُصْفَرًّا ثُمَّ يَكُونُ حُطَامًا ۖ وَفِي الْآخِرَةِ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ وَمَغْفِرَةٌ مِنَ اللَّهِ وَرِضْوَانٌ ۚ وَمَا الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا إِلَّا مَتَاعُ الْغُرُورِ (20)

Know that the life of this world is only play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting among you, and rivalry in respect of wealth and children. (It is) as the likeness of vegetation after rain, thereof the growth is pleasing to the tiller; afterwards it dries up and you see it turning yellow; then it becomes straw. But in the Hereafter (there is) a severe torment (for the disbelievers - evil-doers), and (there is) Forgiveness from Allâh and (His) Good Pleasure (for the believers - good-doers). And the life of this world is only a deceiving enjoyment.





2.to give a companion with allah or not to beleive in him.

قُلْ يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لِمَ تَكْفُرُونَ بِآيَاتِ اللّهِ وَاللّهُ شَهِيدٌ عَلَى مَا تَعْمَلُونَ (98)
Say: "O People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, when Allah is Himself witness to all ye do?"

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوَاْ إِن تُطِيعُواْ فَرِيقًا مِّنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ يَرُدُّوكُم بَعْدَ إِيمَانِكُمْ كَافِرِينَ (100)
O ye who believe! If ye listen to a faction among the People of the Book, they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye have believed!


3. Kuffr ne3ma: to disobey allah's orders, in this meaning, still the person is a muslim .

فِيهِ آيَاتٌ بَيِّنَاتٌ مَّقَامُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمَن دَخَلَهُ كَانَ آمِنًا وَلِلّهِ عَلَى النَّاسِ حِجُّ الْبَيْتِ مَنِ اسْتَطَاعَ إِلَيْهِ سَبِيلاً وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ الله غَنِيٌّ عَنِ الْعَالَمِينَ (97)

[Rummy]

^^^
I know it was posted yesterday, but since no one answered it. I thought I would give it a try.

[um albanin]

Sorry for that Rummy. when I started replying to the answers, you have already posted, so I add my reply to you later. I thought no one was interested to answer since its been there for 24 hrs.

This is for you as I will be away for some time & wouldnt be able to post more questions : (may be you & Ice-tea can post questions since you are the most interested).


State 3 entamology facts mensioned int the holy book in this verse :


حَتَّىٰ إِذَا أَتَوْا عَلَىٰ وَادِ النَّمْلِ قَالَتْ نَمْلَةٌ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّمْلُ ادْخُلُوا مَسَاكِنَكُمْ لَا يَحْطِمَنَّكُمْ سُلَيْمَانُ وَجُنُودُهُ وَهُمْ لَا يَشْعُرُونَ (18)

[18] Till, when they came to the valley of the ants, one of the ants said: "O ants! Enter your dwellings, lest Sulaimân (Solomon) and his hosts crush you, while they perceive not."

[IceTea]

What is entamology?

[Rummy]

^^
I guess she meant "Entomology", which in turn means the study of insects.

[Rummy]

I guess from the top of my head, the answers are:

1. Ants use chemical substances to communicate with each other. Ants give out different kinds of these substances, each substance has a different code denoting a certain kind of speech.

2. Workers ants, which are the type mentioned in the verse have been proven to be females.

3. Ants get broken rather than crushed due to their hard exoskeleton.

[um albanin]

2/3 of your answer is true.
Thank you rummy.

1. There is a distinct language (chemical or other type of communication) between ants .

2. The female is the Boss (the queen) who give orders & others follow;
one of the ants (she in the arabic text) said: "O ants! Enter your dwellings

3.Ants get broken rather than crushed due to their hard exoskeleton

Rummy , Its your turn to ask question now.

[Rummy]

Okay, my question is as follows:

Before the Battle of Badr, one companion pledged total support in the following words: "O Prophet of Allah (SAW) we are not like the followers of Moses who said ' You and your Lord can go and fight, we will wait here.' We say go where ever your Lord is commanding you. We swear by Allah who has sent you with the truth that we will fight on your right, on your left, in your front, and in your back and we will never leave you."

Who said these words?

[IceTea]

Interesting information.

I also once heard someone explaning this verse and mentioned that today science proved that ants defensive strategy are classified in two modes, one is the attack and the other one is warning of the danger which is the case in this story. Because the ant said "lest Sulaimân (Solomon) and his hosts crush you, while they perceive not.". That means the ant knew it is not the intention of prophet solomon to harm them. Subhan Allah.

[um albanin]

Okay, my question is as follows:

Before the Battle of Badr, one companion pledged total support in the following words: "O Prophet of Allah (SAW) we are not like the followers of Moses who said ' You and your Lord can go and fight, we will wait here.' We say go where ever your Lord is commanding you. We swear by Allah who has sent you with the truth that we will fight on your right, on your left, in your front, and in your back and we will never leave you."

Who said these words?

We dont know the answer, or rather we dont remember. Please tell us Rummy.

I wish members could participate more. even if you dont know the answer. remember , this thread is for us to learn.

[um albanin]

There is a difference in meaning between these two verses in the word ( بُطُونِ ) what is it, what does it imply?


وَإِنَّ لَكُمْ فِي الْأَنْعَامِ لَعِبْرَةً ۖ نُسْقِيكُمْ مِمَّا فِي بُطُونِهِ مِنْ بَيْنِ فَرْثٍ وَدَمٍ لَبَنًا خَالِصًا سَائِغًا لِلشَّارِبِينَ (66)
[66] And verily! In the cattle, there is a lesson for you. We give you to drink of that which is in their bellies, from between excretions and blood, pure milk; palatable to the drinkers.

وان لكم في الانعام لعبره نسقيكم مما في بطونها ولكم فيها منافع كثيره ومنها تاكلون
[21] And Verily in the cattle there is indeed a lesson for you. We give you to drink (milk) of that which is in their bellies. And there are, in them, numerous (other) benefits for you, and of them you eat.

[BrAiKi]

Hmm, I've read both Arabic and English translation. Doesn't seem like there's a difference. :os
Waiting for the answer..
And welcome back um al banin.

[um albanin]

I will give a hint.
check the difference between : مِمَّا فِي بُطُونِهِ & مما في بطونها .

The english translation is actualy gives a literal translation only , it doesnt give you the exact meaning in arabic,(please dont rely on it) I copy-paste the translation because its a rule in English sabla to do so. But the difference is wide between them.

[BrAiKi]

The first word is used to describe the male and the second is to describe the female.
But I don't know what is the significance.
Will be waiting for the answer.

[um albanin]

The word مما في بطونها in the secound verses, It ment the pleual of the bellies (stomaches) of all the animals which produce milk.(goat, cow, camel, sheep) & in arabic the pleural of animals will be reffered as female.

But the first verse مِمَّا فِي بُطُونِهِ , ment the number of stomaches in each animal , which the pleural refered to as male. & here where the holy quran mensioned that the these animals has more than one stomache (chambers) & the verse tells us where the biosynthesis of milk takes place : مِنْ بَيْنِ فَرْثٍ وَدَمٍ

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7481637/BIOSYNTHESIS-OF-MILK-COMPONENTS


Scientific facts :


The stomach of ruminants has four compartments: the rumen, reticulum, omasum and abomasum.

Camelids (camels, llamas, alpacas, vicunas) have a reticulum with areas of gland-like cells, and an omasum that is tubular and almost indistinct. These animals are occasionally referred to as pseudoruminants or as having "three stomachs" rather than four.

A final note on anatomy. Stratified, squamous epithelium such as found in the rumen is not usually considered an absorptive type of epithelium. Ruminal papillae are however very richly vascularized and the abundant volatile fatty acids produced by fermentation are readily absorbed across the epithelium. Venous blood from the forestomachs, as well as the abomasum, carries these absorbed nutrients into the portal vein, and hence, straight to the liver.



هَٰذَا خَلْقُ اللَّهِ فَأَرُونِي مَاذَا خَلَقَ الَّذِينَ مِنْ دُونِهِ ۚ بَلِ الظَّالِمُونَ فِي ضَلَالٍ مُبِينٍ
This is the creation of Allâh. So show Me that which those (whom you worship) besides Him have created. Nay, the Zâlimûn (polytheists, wrongdoers and those who do not believe in the Oneness of Allâh) are in plain error.

[um albanin]

Who are these people mensioned in this verse?

وَأَصْحَابُ الْأَيْكَةِ وَقَوْمُ تُبَّعٍ ۚ كُلٌّ كَذَّبَ الرُّسُلَ فَحَقَّ وَعِيدِ
And the Dwellers of the Wood, and the people of Tubba'. Everyone of them denied (their) Messengers, so My Threat took effect.

[BrAiKi]

They are the people of Yemen.

[um albanin]

& your answer is correct.

وَقَوْمُ تُبَّعٍ :They are the people of Yemen.

وَأَصْحَابُ الْأَيْكَةِ : The people of Madyan (Qawm prophet Shuayb).



New Question:

Which is the only Sura (chapter) in the holy Quran has two places where you perform sajda (Prostrates)

[Rummy]

Okay, my question is as follows:

Before the Battle of Badr, one companion pledged total support in the following words: "O Prophet of Allah (SAW) we are not like the followers of Moses who said ' You and your Lord can go and fight, we will wait here.' We say go where ever your Lord is commanding you. We swear by Allah who has sent you with the truth that we will fight on your right, on your left, in your front, and in your back and we will never leave you."

Who said these words?

I apologise, I forgot to state the answer later. The companion who said thos words to the prohphet :PBUH: is Al Miqdad Ibn Al Aswad

[Rummy]

The answer to the latest question is Surah Al Hajj, the first sajda is in Verse 18 and the second is in Verse 77.

[um albanin]

Whats is The Longest : (in the holy Quran)

Sura ?
Verse (aya)?
Word?

[Rummy]

Surah: Baqara
Verse: Verse number 282 in Surah Al Baqara, Ayatul Dayn (it's the verse that talks about debt)
Word: (فأسقيناكموه) , I think its in Surat Al Hajj not sure though :no:

[um albanin]

you are too fast for me. :yes:

But its surat Alhajr verse 22

What Was created first the seven heavens or the earth ? Bring evidances from the holy Quran.

[Rummy]

Earth was created first then Seven Heavens I think. I remember there's a verse in Surah Al Baqarah but I don't remember it from the top of my head :no:

[um albanin]

It depends on the wording, if it was ment the seven heavens :

The verses in both Surat al-Baqarah (2:29) and Surat Fussilat (41: 9 – 12) signify the fact that creating the earth has preceded the separation of the primary smoky heaven into seven heavens. It is obvious that the creation here was for the elements of the earth, this was followed by the creation of the earth in the form of a primary planet that was later spread to take the present form. This is because the creation of the heavens and earth is an intertwined inseparable process.


هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ لَكُمْ مَا فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ اسْتَوَىٰ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ فَسَوَّاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ ۚ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ (29)
[29] He it is Who created for you all that is on earth. Then He rose over (Istawâ) towards the heaven and made them seven heavens and He is the All-Knower of everything.

Notice that , Allah said, he has created (all whats on earth, didnt say the earth.)



But if the question ment the heaven when it was only a smoke before seperation :

Then He Rose and Dominated (Istawâ) over the heaven when it was smoke, and Said to it and to the earth: "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come willingly." 12. Then He finished from their creation as seven heavens in two Days and He instilled in each heaven its affair. And We (Allah) adorned the nearest (lowest) heaven with lamps (stars) to be an adornment as well as guards (from the devils by using them as missiles against them). Such is the Decree of Him the All-Mighty, the All-Knower.


But remember:


أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا ۖ وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاءِ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ ۖ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ
"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"


http://www.elnaggarzr.com/en/main.php?id=47

[um albanin]

Who's Prophet's story that was only told once & was never repeated like others in the noble Quran?

[BrAiKi]

Yosef PBUH

[Rummy]

^^
Meh you beat me to it :bored:

[Kitten]

How come I never saw this thread? Informative one, Um Albanin.

The answer was already said, Yousuf PBUH.

[um albanin]

All of you gave the correct answer. Sorry for the late reply, logistics problem :inno:


Who is the lady mensioned in this verse ?What were the lessons learned from this story? :



وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِي أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِي فِي نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشَاهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضَىٰ زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا لِكَيْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِي أَزْوَاجِ أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا (37)
[37] And (remember) when you said to him (Zaid bin Hârithah (may Allah be pleased with him) - the freed-slave of the Prophet (peace be upon him)) on whom Allâh has bestowed Grace (by guiding him to Islâm) and you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him) too) have done favor (by manumitting him): "Keep your wife to yourself, and fear Allâh." But you did hide in yourself (i.e. what Allâh has already made known to you that He will give her to you in marriage) that which Allâh will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad (peace be upon him) married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allâh had a better right that you should fear Him. So when Zaid divorced her , We gave her to you in marriage, so that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in respect of (the marriage of) the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have no desire to keep them (i.e. they have divorced them). And Allâh's Command must be fulfilled.

[um albanin]

Who is the lady mensioned in this verse ?What were the lessons learned from this story? :

Zainab Bint Jahsh (prophet Mohammad's (PBUH) wife).

She is to start with prophet's cousin :

She was the daughter of Umaimah bint 'Abdul Muttalib bin Hashim, who was the Messenger of Allah's paternal aunt.

Lessons to be learned:

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) proposed to Zaynab's family the marriage of his freed slave and adopted son, Zayd ibn Harithah. While Zayd was an Abyssinian and a former slave, Zaynab had an aristocratic lineage, thus having a higher social status. On these grounds her brothers rejected the proposal and she disapproved of it.[2]

The prophet Muhammad, however, was determined to eliminate such class distinctions under pre-Islamic Arab custom. He also wanted to establish the legitimacy and right to equal treatment of the adopted.


Arabs thought it was wrong for a man to marry the widow or divorcee of his adopted son. Allah wanted to abolish this uncivilized custom, so He sent the Angel Jibril to tell the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) in secret that Zaynab would one day be his wife. He was very distressed as it was against the accepted norm of behavior. He feared social censure and was very ashamed and embarrassed at the implications. But the decision had been made in the heavens by Allah and soon he received the revelation.

And (remember) when you said to him (Zayd bin Harithah) on whom Allah has bestowed grace (by guiding him to Islam) and you have done favour (by manumitting him): "Keep your wife to yourself, and fear Allah." But you hid in yourself that which Allah will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allah had a better right that you should fear Him. So when Zayd had accomplished his desire from her (i.e. divorced her), We gave her to you in marriage, so that there may be no difficulty to the believers in respect of (the marriage of) the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have no desire to keep them. And Allah's Command must be fulfilled." [Noble Quran 33:37]

[Kitten]

^ Aha! Finally.
Which Sura was it?

[BrAiKi]

I remember reading this story, I just forgot the names.

In my opinion, another uncivilized custom (which still exists) is the reason why her brothers were against the marriage because he's a "slave".

[um albanin]

There are two prostrates (sujood) in the Quran where it didnt mean "worshipness" عبودية . Bring the verses & tell us to whom these prostartes were.

[um albanin]

True indeed Braiki.

[BrAiKi]

I don't have arabic keyboard.
I think the two verses were:
- Kalla laa toti`ho wa asjud wa iqtarib. (at the end of the verse, forgot which one :os)
- Allatheena yo`toona al zakaata wa hum saajidoon. (also don't know which verse)

One was for human beings in general and one was for prophet mohammed.

[um albanin]

^ Aha! Finally.
Which Sura was it?

sorry dear. I tried to give a chance for reply.
الاحزاب آية:37

[um albanin]

There are two prostrates (sujood) in the Quran where it didnt mean "worshipness" عبودية . Bring the verses & tell us to whom these prostartes were.

The answer :

All sujoods (prostrates) in the holy Quran means worship to Allah except in two places where sujood meant Respect & was under the order of Allah (SWT)

The prostrate of Angeles for prophet ADAM &
The prostrate of prophet Yaqoob , his wife & their 11 children to prophet Yusuf PBUH at the end of prophet Yusuf's story.


Eid MUbarak. Great thanks to religion sabla Modes for keeping this thread a sticky to last day of Ramadhan. May we be alive to reach the next Ramadhan Ameen.

Taqabbal Allah siyamakum wa Qiyaamakum ameen.

[IceTea]

Ameen. And Eid Mubarak.

Thanks um albanin for the effort you have put in this thread

[BrAiKi]

If I could rep you a 100 times for every post you post I would have.
Thanks a lot for this nice idea and very informative thread.
Eid Mubarak

[Kitten]

Thanks Um albanin, this thread was very informative.

[um albanin]

If I could rep you a 100 times for every post you post I would have.
Thanks a lot for this nice idea and very informative thread.
Eid Mubarak

Jazak Allah Khayr brother. This adds a star on my membership. Really appreciated . You gave me enough reps :yes: :) .


Kitten & IceTea. Thanks for reading this thread.


Kul 3am Wu Intu bikhayr wu si77a wu salama.