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[abu Suleiman]

Have any of u has read this book??????????
I have read it .
It disclises alot about asheeah.
Tel me what do u think to buy and read it, to get many good info aobut sheeah sect.

But still they are our brothers in ISLAM.:)

[Arabian Princess]

Well I did not read alot about Sheeah (definatly did not read the book u mentioned) but there are some question marks about how thier treat thier Imams .

Well, I read a book about bahiaii and the book mentioned that bahiis had place in Iran because of thise factors in the shiia sect .. They have some imams and they treat them as higher than others and that is not acceptable in Islam ...
I hope you are talking about the same thing am talking about ..

[arabian-brain]

Bahiaii are not Muslims, they are a different religion and mixture of other religions as well. Their beliefs outdated to the Old Persian theology.

[yellow sapphire]

Arabian Princess
bahiaii is different and they believe that there is a prophet will come after Mohammed peace be upon him.and they have a book called "alkitab alakdes"(the most holy book)
we have alkitab almokaddes(holy book) and they have alkitab alakdes(the most holy book)

[abu Suleiman]

Dears,

Bahai is a person who follow Bahaism.
Bahaism is religious movment happened in 19th century, and first to appear between Shia.
According to their ideas they are Kufar and not of Islam sects.
As YS said they beleive in another messenger called Bahaa Arahman.
I was sometime earlier in Aberdeen I have found these people spreading lots of notes re their teachings.
I said where are our Brothers muslims who have the fully truth?
Shia also they consider their Imams so highly than normal people,
but they are totally difrrent than these Bahais.
Shia are muslims but BAhais are kufar.

[yellow sapphire]

please,what is the meaning of imam here.

[Arabian Princess]

I never said that hseeaa are the same as bahaaiii ..
What I said that I read in a book that Shiaa have those 12 imams that they beleive they are supirior , they beleive in al mahdi am mukhtar and othe beleives which gave a place for bahaii to create thier religion (wont call it sect because they are definatly not muslims)

[Enjoy Ur Death]

salam every one
there are many things common between muslims as well as other religious and this doesn't mean that these things are wrong in islam ... one of these things is that they believe in an end of this bad things happining in life and the begining of a new life .... in most math-habs they believe that this duety is of al maseh (alih al salam) but sheia believe that it is their immam mehdi that will take over this responsibility and i am not going to elaborate more about this idea. i just talked about it to explain why do they call him al munqith .... regarding their immams, they believe that they are superior than other people by the gift which allah gave them and it is his love ... so as we all muslims believe that our prophet peace be upon him and his family is superior than other people they believe so in their immams, however they believe that the prophet peace be upon him is the best human being over this world all over the time till the last day comes out. the last thing i want to make it clear is that feeling or treating immams as they r not as other normal people is not smth against islam , it is simply one of the islamic rule which says that if u believe that our prophet peace be up on him and his family is the best man over this land then u should never raise ur voice on his holly voice, by this way the Quran taught us how to talk with our prophet and other people who are faithful for Allah and that's why we respect all of our islamic scitentists , thus sheia believe that their immams are faithfull for ALLAh and they r islmic scientists so, it is not against any islamic rule to treat them in a way other than other people ... the very last thing is, 1st we have to be able to defend on our islam and then go to the details of our math-habs, if u read other articles u will see that people r asking and sometimes trying to show that our islam is wrong ??!! please defend on our islam and make it clear that our beliefs are not wrong and not doubtfull then seek about other math-habs ... islam needs us all to be with him, r u coming to it ??!!

[arabian-brain]

**** man, I don't want to enjoy my death, I just die faster.

[arabian-brain]

e3oooth Ballah min Alshaytan Alrajeem

[Thug4Life]

u can comment about his nickname in the members sabla
;)
what do u think about what was said above guys?!

[Oops]

Salamu 3likum guys,

I totaly agree with brother Enjoy Ur Death. Muslims believe in the same things. They practise what Allah requested in a same way. There are tiny differences between sunasim, shiasim, and Ibadiasim in some minor things


This book which brother Abu Suliman mentioned contradicts with itself. It doesn't tell you the exact truth. There were many books published to refute this book. One of them:

http://www.albadri.com/rodod/

Anyway, If you want to learn about the Shiasm read what they say not what there opponest say about who are they. And if you have already read about them, than it is gonna be a good idea to read such books and the books that they refute those books.

Thanks :)

[Jinan]

The best book to read abt shiasim and to learn more abt them is " Then I was Guided" by Mohammed Tijani al -samawi....

[yellow sapphire]

Jinan
it is a good book but what to do,do not you know what amo0or
has said in what if shi3ah right.he said he will not change his madhab even if shi3ah right.


quote:
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Originally posted by amo0or
Lo0o0o0oL.. Y-S said that the answer should be yes or no.. i can see many paragraphs here..
anyway my answer will be No..
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[Jinan]

Im sure uve heard of stubborn people Yellow Sapphire :), MAybe he's a stubborn person... :)

[yellow sapphire]

Jinan
I really can not believe this,he said even if they r right he will not change his madhab,sob7an Allah.and for what he is saying this,i do not know.what is wrong with these people.

[Jinan]

Weird, very weird !!!!

[yellow sapphire]

Jinan
i can not really understand this.
but there is a question for him,this question is why.may i know why.

[Arabian Princess]

Jinan and YS .. can I ask you a very simple question:

" do non SHiaa goes to heaven?"

[yellow sapphire]

very good question.
my answer is yes.

[Arabian Princess]

YS, if the answer is YES:
Then why bother to research on who is right and who is wrong instead of focusing on strngthing our own faith and trying our best to pray mroe to ALLAH and help our community!!

[Thug4Life]

I just want to emphesise on what our brother Enjoy Ur death stressed above:
Islam is attacked every were...and we r looking at such stuff that doesnt make us advanced but just creates non sense hate!
So why to talk about it?
We have to unite and face what is more important!..there r alot of other topics rised by many western people every were challanging us and trying to prove lies mostly or tricky stuff minimumly On islam!...take it as this:
I have 2 Good friends..both from different scoolers..but we hang out togather..we stay togather..we pray togather and we beleive in mostly every important CORES of Islam...and most of all we all say:
LA ILLAH ILLA ALLAH..MOHAMMADAN RASOOOL ALLAH!
So whats the fuss about It?

May Allah show us all the correct pathway and may allah help us to unite and face the surrouding dangers....AMEEN!

[arabian-brain]

Ameeeeeeeen

La Alah Ela Allah Mohamden Rasol Allah

Allah Akbar

Allah Akbar

Allah Akbar

[abu Suleiman]

Dears,
Salam alikum
When I posted the topic since more than 2 weeks I didnt see and correspondences, which made me very upset.
But when I came back I found the topic again on the first top topics.
Some people said that this which mentioned earlier was written by unknown author and others said that this book contradicts its self.
To whom who doesnt know the author that the auther maned : Ahmed alKatib and algazeera chanell has made a program with him re the book.
The publisher was Dar al Jadeed in London.

Do not forget I like every Muslim respects his Islam.:) :) :)