Changing the Islamic Subject's Book Title to ''الثقافة الإسلامية"

[Booth]

Which means Islamic education instead of the old one which was ''Islamic Raising'' before, I translated it literally I'm not sure how it's supposed to be exactly in English terms.

A lot complained about it, a lot blamed the West for controlling how our Education works, a lot think this is just one step backward to forgetting Islamic fundamentals.. Now that some believe they only chose to make it not ''Optional'' after Gonu (Regrets), some say that's why it came to Oman, for this specific reason, but you know us.. We like create assumptions.

I remember being told that many Sura's were replaced in the subject and many discussion topics were replaced too, and being told it is because the western thinks our Islamic Studies is brainwashing us to hating the West, I'm just wondering what do you think about it? Why'd they change the title? What happened to us? xD

[Blackout]

I studied it back when it hadn't changed and it never made me hate anyone period. I don't even hate the Jews.
I am saddened that they chose to change the name and agree that it is a step backwards. My fear is that it will affect the students who will see the change and think that Islam today does not have the same value it did before.

[Matiii]

awain they said ! islamic education includes everything in life ! but the rising was about rising ! or some sort of bull !

i dont really care about this subject anymore
for god's sake ! two classes each week ! WTH ! i remember it used to b daily


i dunno about the west messing up our Education ! but I think there is a lil truth in that
i heard that they removed all soras and hadeeths about jihad and similar things



i dont c hw gonu is realated to the name changing , its jus peeps bla blabing

[Shinigami]

Not only that buthy,
Now we get only two periods per week, it used to be four.

And I seriously see guys in the school underestimating the subject.
Frankly, I used to underestimate it.
But not anymore (alhamdulilah), all thanks go to the Iraqi kid sitting next to me in the class who made me feel ashamed when I saw how concerned and interested he was.

[Matiii]

^ can u bring him next to me plz :p
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[El Rey]

It's not about the name changing. It's about the content these books carry inside. Unfortunately, the Islamic subject is given less and less importance throught the time and this is getting clear in the new generation way of thinking and how they are ignorant about lots of things about their religion.

However, we shouldn't all the time blame the west. They may asked for a curriculum change but we have the option to make it as it was before or even stronger. We are changing ourselves for others and this is really indicating how weak we are getting and making of ourselves.

Now I think it's the parents duty to teach their children. The schools duty is a past now. There are lots of Islamic book tahn the school subjects parents can have and cultivate their kids.

[Blackout]

Shingami, that Iraqi kid has his heart in the right place.

Its a shame the subject is taught twice only a week. I had it every day and was one of my favourites :(

[Matiii]

also blame it on the teachers !

one thing i like about this class
everytime we turn the class into a discussion about you know what :p nd the poor teacher answers our questions

[Amjad]

I strongly disagree with everyone who thinks that Islamic education is now given less importance in Oman, and that the new curriculum is weaker than the old Islamic curriculum. That's absolutely not true. In my last two years of high school (Grades 11 and 12), I studied the new Islamic curriculum, which they called the Islamic Culture, and I found it extremely interesting and extremely helpful. It tackled all the issues young Muslims should know at this age. Starting from marriage, husbands duties & rights in Islam, wives duties & rights in Islam, and so many other things that Muslims should know to help them engineer their lives. A lot of other important things are covered in this new curriculum for Grades 11 and 12, and some of these important issues were not covered in the old curriculum!

I find the new Islamic Culture absolutely beautiful, and guess what? Out of all the subjects I studied in high school, I only kept the textbooks of Islamic Culture. They're still with me. I even brought them with me to the US, because they're extremely useful, and sometimes I go back to them for reference. They include many things that we use in our everyday lives, and they're extremely important, that's why I kept them. I threw away all my textbooks, except the Islamic textbooks for Grades 11 and 12, they're still with me.

The new Islamic curriculum is NOT weak. In fact, it is stronger than the old curriculum, because it covers many issues that were not covered in the old curriculum. However, you need a really good teacher to teach you this new Islamic curriculum. Fortunately enough, I had an extremely good Islamic teacher who taught me Islamic Culture throughout my three years of high school. I think we were privileged to have such an intelligent, open minded and extremely knowledgeable teacher. Unfortunately though, other Islamic teachers in school were not as knowledgeable as him. However, they were not as knowledgeable as him because they were young teachers, and so this senior teacher was used to train these young teachers. Actually, my teacher was not only used by the school to train the other junior Islamic teachers, but he was hired by the Ministry of Education itself to conduct workshops and trainings for junior Islamic teachers. That's how knowledgeable he was. He missed a lot of classes because he had to go to the ministry to conduct these workshops and trainings, and personally, I was always looking forward to his class.

Bottom line, the new Islamic curriculum is not weak. It's strong and beautiful.

[Blackout]

also blame it on the teachers !

one thing i like about this class
everytime we turn the class into a discussion about you know what :p nd the poor teacher answers our questions

I thought only we did that :p

[Matiii]

^ did wat :p ?

hello :p we are very interested

[Blackout]

actually only I did! the others were always too scared to do anything. Was hard work for me :p

[Shinigami]

Dear Amjad,
Did you get only two periods per week?
Was it elective or forced?!

[Amjad]

Dear Amjad,
Did you get only two periods per week?
Was it elective or forced?!
Four periods a week. I wish they were five. It was compulsory for Muslim students, optional for non-Muslim students.

[Booth]

I studied it back when it hadn't changed and it never made me hate anyone period. I don't even hate the Jews.
I am saddened that they chose to change the name and agree that it is a step backwards. My fear is that it will affect the students who will see the change and think that Islam today does not have the same value it did before.
I think I agree, and it's not just the ministry of education who choose saw.. The students themselves take less effort to paying attention in the class like they do in physics or chemistry.


awain they said ! islamic education includes everything in life ! but the rising was about rising ! or some sort of bull !

i dont really care about this subject anymore
for god's sake ! two classes each week ! WTH ! i remember it used to b daily


i dunno about the west messing up our Education ! but I think there is a lil truth in that
i heard that they removed all soras and hadeeths about jihad and similar things



i dont c hw gonu is realated to the name changing , its jus peeps bla blabing

It has the same amount of lessons as life skills, which is a lame subject.
Surat al kafiroon from grade 2 or 3 was erased, although the ayya makes so much sense and has nothing to do with jihad.


Not only that buthy,
Now we get only two periods per week, it used to be four.

And I seriously see guys in the school underestimating the subject.
Frankly, I used to underestimate it.
But not anymore (alhamdulilah), all thanks go to the Iraqi kid sitting next to me in the class who made me feel ashamed when I saw how concerned and interested he was.


There are few who know how much this lesson matters, wish a lot learn from him.


It's not about the name changing. It's about the content these books carry inside. Unfortunately, the Islamic subject is given less and less importance throught the time and this is getting clear in the new generation way of thinking and how they are ignorant about lots of things about their religion.

However, we shouldn't all the time blame the west. They may asked for a curriculum change but we have the option to make it as it was before or even stronger. We are changing ourselves for others and this is really indicating how weak we are getting and making of ourselves.

Now I think it's the parents duty to teach their children. The schools duty is a past now. There are lots of Islamic book tahn the school subjects parents can have and cultivate their kids.

:yes: Kids know more about electronics and Vice City than the religion they follow today.

We had the choice of changing it to a better book, who knows maybe this is better, maybe this is where we reached to holding on to our religion, talking about subjects like freedom of creativity and meditation.

It's the parents duty from the start to teach their children, minority do it.. And a smaller amount even do it the right way.

We're being controlled by others, that's when we change our concepts to let others be fine with it.


also blame it on the teachers !

one thing i like about this class
everytime we turn the class into a discussion about you know what :p nd the poor teacher answers our questions

He has to answer your questions, part of his teaching job. :bored:


I strongly disagree with everyone who thinks that Islamic education is now given less importance in Oman, and that the new curriculum is weaker than the old Islamic curriculum. That's absolutely not true. In my last two years of high school (Grades 11 and 12), I studied the new Islamic curriculum, which they called the Islamic Culture, and I found it extremely interesting and extremely helpful. It tackled all the issues young Muslims should know at this age. Starting from marriage, husbands duties & rights in Islam, wives duties & rights in Islam, and so many other things that Muslims should know to help them engineer their lives. A lot of other important things are covered in this new curriculum for Grades 11 and 12, and some of these important issues were not covered in the old curriculum!
You're right about the marriage subject having to be included in the book, that's the best of it. The rest of the book contains things like.. The creation of the universe, meditation in the universe, freedom of thinking.. And other things that are okay and interesting, but not like basics we should learn.

Amjad, just the fact that they equalized the number of lesson of this subject to 2 which is the same number of lesson we get for life skills means they did think of it as a less important subject, they had the thought of making it optional for some times and then Ministry of Religious Endowments complained and was completely against the idea which made them return it to the basic subjects.

We study 10 English lessons a week, and 2 Islamic ones. That's how important English is, because we're working for how good our English is. But Islam, no.. They probably don't see how needed it is during this decade, unlike English.


I find the new Islamic Culture absolutely beautiful, and guess what? Out of all the subjects I studied in high school, I only kept the textbooks of Islamic Culture. They're still with me. I even brought them with me to the US, because they're extremely useful, and sometimes I go back to them for reference. They include many things that we use in our everyday lives, and they're extremely important, that's why I kept them. I threw away all my textbooks, except the Islamic textbooks for Grades 11 and 12, they're still with me.
It is indeed beautiful, :cute:. If all saw it from the angle you did, many students wish it was optional because their too busy in their teenage life that they have no time to memorize all the verses and ahadeeth.


The new Islamic curriculum is NOT weak. In fact, it is stronger than the old curriculum, because it covers many issues that were not covered in the old curriculum.
It covers issues that were recently corrupted, like tolerance. This is how they're stepping backwards, they make the subjects included in the book according to the timing and how to correct our mind about things, tolerance of sects and religions was not included in the older book.



However, you need a really good teacher to teach you this new Islamic curriculum. Fortunately enough, I had an extremely good Islamic teacher who taught me Islamic Culture throughout my three years of high school. I think we were privileged to have such an intelligent, open minded and extremely knowledgeable teacher. Unfortunately though, other Islamic teachers in school were not as knowledgeable as him. However, they were not as knowledgeable as him because they were young teachers, and so this senior teacher was used to train these young teachers. Actually, my teacher was not only used by the school to train the other junior Islamic teachers, but he was hired by the Ministry of Education itself to conduct workshops and trainings for junior Islamic teachers. That's how knowledgeable he was. He missed a lot of classes because he had to go to the ministry to conduct these workshops and trainings, and personally, I was always looking forward to his class.
Teachers can make a change of how students think of the class.



Bottom line, the new Islamic curriculum is not weak. It's strong and beautiful.
It's beautiful, always beautiful.. But I don't think it's stronger.

[Soulless]

i agree with Elray and Eothyn's post.

not just the Islamic book , but they also changed the hymns and chants that exclaim to free Philistine , these chants as i checked on my young nephews ARABIC studies book doesnt exist any more.

[Blackout]

^a step back I d say :no:

[Amjad]

You're right about the marriage subject having to be included in the book, that's the best of it. The rest of the book contains things like.. The creation of the universe, meditation in the universe, freedom of thinking.. And other things that are okay and interesting, but not like basics we should learn.

The basics?

You seriously want to be taught the basics at this stage? The basics are supposed to be taught and learned in all your lower classes (KG 1 - Grade 9), and when you reach Grades 11 and 12, you need to start thinking out of the box. Grades 11 and 12 is not where you get taught the basics. You should already know the basics from lower classes, and in Grades 11 and 12 you should be ready to handle important issues in Islam like marriage, tolerance, freedom & responsibility, youth & Islam and the other things you mentioned. In order to learn these things, you should first learn the basics of Islam. You learn the basics in lower classes, and when it comes to your last years in high school, it's time for you to think outside the box, and handle issues way beyond the "basics."

If you don't learn these things in Grades 11 and 12, when are you going to learn them?

[ToomuchaT]

Personally I never came across the module before so I don't know the content of it.. but I have read from forums all the complains about it.. and the complains about the number of hours and being an optional module.

The module in my school days was solid in terms of giving the basics in all islamic aspects and it goes further but I have to admit that it lacked the "culture" thing in it.. So if the new module is introducing the culture term to the old module with keeping the old content intact then that's great.. but if it messed up with the old content then there must be something not right!!

I remember watching a video clip about this CC member speaking to the minister of education about the difference in the content of an old version and the modified or imroved module of class 2 or 3 and it was really a complete shame and disgraceful to know the content of the improved module!!

An important point was raised by Amjad.. which is the teacher him/erself.. some of them just will teach you the words of the content and that's it.. what really teachers have to do is to stimulate the brains of the students and makes them think more broadly and bring some real life examples when discussing matters and situations.

[death rose]

yeah everyone is so careless about it these days
and now we only study 2 lessons a day,from 4!

(3indna tasmee3 el aya bukra,7afadhty?:P)

[Matiii]

^ tasmee3 ! maal awal :p

[Blackout]

^I know! :D

[Khalid]

It's not that only, what's funny about it that grade 11 & 12 take 2 lessons per every weak. they learn 1.30 hour about their islam about PE, Art and Music lesson takes 4 lesson per every week.

[GingerPop]

I feel the new title portrays Islam as a "culture" rather than a "religion"

Sigh,

[GingerPop]

Although I do also encourage the newer topics discussed - relevant to our society and time :)

[Matiii]

some of the new topics are really interesting (like the family one :p very interesting indeed)

they gave us this paper in the first sem to tell us about the islamic culture nd bla bla
and as we asked the teacher why did they change the name
the answer was soo simple yet not satisfying

"because islamic culture contains the tarbiyah and all the other islamic religion issues"

[Blackout]

Al Tarbiya Al Islamiya



NEVER FORGET!


OMG ONOZ

[WoLF DoLL]

They changed the name of the book, big deal.

[Matiii]

^ hello ????

have you read the posts above

they have changed the book's name, right
they have changed the book's topics too (deleted a lot of useful stuff wich were in the older books)

[MissKindy]

The older books used to be filled with so much information on how Islamic history was and how you should behave as a Muslim, but sadly the newer books are so bad that there are hardly any verses for the students to memorize from the Quran.

Soon this subject will be an option, you just wait and see

[Matiii]

^ and believe it or not

many students will choose not to take it

[Kitten]

^ and believe it or not

many students will choose not to take it

There goes my hope for humanity. Again.

[Soulless]

^ and believe it or not

many students will choose not to take it

and islam will become a culture instead of religion.

[Booth]

The basics?

You seriously want to be taught the basics at this stage? The basics are supposed to be taught and learned in all your lower classes (KG 1 - Grade 9), and when you reach Grades 11 and 12, you need to start thinking out of the box. Grades 11 and 12 is not where you get taught the basics. You should already know the basics from lower classes, and in Grades 11 and 12 you should be ready to handle important issues in Islam like marriage, tolerance, freedom & responsibility, youth & Islam and the other things you mentioned. In order to learn these things, you should first learn the basics of Islam. You learn the basics in lower classes, and when it comes to your last years in high school, it's time for you to think outside the box, and handle issues way beyond the "basics."

If you don't learn these things in Grades 11 and 12, when are you going to learn them?
You think the basics are just arkan al Islam? Truthfully I believe it's much more than that, it's the history and the stories that happened, there's barely enough of that now, I like some topics but others are not worth being replaced with the old ones.

[Matiii]

now all the stories are like adds-on (ta3alam)