Using black magic

[samy]

dear all
it is really a true event that i have seen .. when a happy husband divorced his wife of a sudden onset and got engaged with her close friend and for those who know them she ( the friend ) has nothing of value to be compared with his wife.and a few stories we heared on how somebody was in deep unreasonable and unexplaned love with a girle whom never ever thought to be his one.
the explanations we got is that few girles are using a black magic to get those men .. how far is that true.??

[X-press]

Very interesting topic Sami, but is it a personal problem for you or a general observation?

It is true that black magic is unfortunately quite practised here. To what point it really works, it is another question...

[DorellaM]

Does the Quran talk against black magic? Just curious

[Op@L]

yeah it does actually... doing black magic is considered to be a great sin. People who practice it are severly punished for it. Because they're playing with the unknown...

[Wanderer]

Originally posted by X-press
It is true that black magic is unfortunately quite practised here. To what point it really works, it is another question...

Very interesting statement, X-Press - black magic in an Islamic country sounds dangerous for the practicioners.

How would you differentiate between black and white magic ?

[SoMe1]

[And throw what is in your right hand; it will swallow up what they have crafted. what they have crafted is but the trick of a magician, and the magician will not succeed whatever he is] [20:69]

It is mentioned in the Quran that Magic no matter what kind it is forbidden. Ticking people & make them imagine things is totally forbidden, using black magic is very dangerous. It also is stated in the Quran that people use magic to separate a husband and wife, I can’t find the verse at the moment but ill look it up “inshallah”. But the closest meaning can be said as follows : and they learn from the magic that they can separate between a husband and wife.

Black magic is very common in Oman. People do it coz they want to get a husband, and they would use every single trick in the book to reach their desire. We must point out that this is only the actions of Satan, and is totally unacceptable in Islam.

[amo0or]

It's happening big time in Oman and in the gulf if we wanna talk in general!
Basically i don't beleive in the black magic, it's all khurafat i guess,and when something wroks ppl think that it's working from that magic, but it isn't true..coz if God wanted it to be it'll be no matter what flana did and what 3ilana said! and (allah a3lam).

[Wanderer]

I'm surprised !

How is it that so many Muslims in the gulf are practicing Black Magic to get husbands ?

Is there a shortage of men ? Aren't the families supposed to arrange appropriate marriages so that people don't worry too much about getting married and get caught up in magic 'cause they're impatient ?

Black Magic is frowned upon here too.

[Najah]

Wow Nice topic Sam !
As i just heared about this Topic in FM Today, And shaikh Khalfan and MusaLim were there to answer peoples Q's And to talk about it..and many many interesting things they mentiond there.
And They talked how WRONG is to bellive in BLack Magic And Unfortunatly there are many Educated people that bellive in it too!
But dont forget people To saperate btw Black-Magic and people who cure by Qur2an..

And he menotiond about a very nice thing there that people keep forgetting about which is Nowadays,in some people homes u notice that bathrooms are the most expensive room!?!?!?! and if u knew that bathrooms are Devils rooms! and people just exallurate it more then anywhere else! How funny!!

And They also mentioned many many sad stories about Black Magic.And that people should never ever bellive in it..
As if u know that -Latuqbal minkum salat 40 layla?!!!!!-40 days of prayers arent approved! So why then! And u know that everything is written and welled by god!

How sad that people still in that jahiliyas mind!?

[samy]

One thing i came to notice from the comments made by a well known members ( they are the same members all the time) .. that they are trying to impose the issue of whither it is legal or illegal based on the Islam rules - on every topic we introduce for discussion - which i personally think it is of indecent intention by those members .... as if they are trying to catch on mistakes of our religious practice ( as Muslims ) ... i do feel that even if we talk a bout car racing they will ask a bout wither Islam allow the Muslims to participate in the race or not.. how silly some guys are????
please if we allow you to have the honour of being a member in this Omani sablah .. try to behave accordingly in a well-respected manner ..... cuz what you are planning for is quit clear and really offensive ...... be as mature as expected and do not play cleaver when you are not.. .. whom i meant … know themselves well .. and i am not gonna list the names .

[lulu]

By the way who ever was listening to the English FM today they were talking about BLACK MAGIC...it was interesting and clear...i hope you guys heard and all your questions were answerd.

[Najah]

Samy I feel what u feeeeeeeeeel, And i support all of what u said.
Lulu as if u can see i posted some of what they talked about today in FM.And yess it was great and clear..

Samy,When it comes to what u mentioned above JUST IGNore As if u know Dont put ur self whith this Small minded! That tries what they dont can but ....................................:mad:

[SoMe1]

Samy and Najah,

I know what you guys are talking about but it seems that you don’t really understand these people; they are just simple Questions to them. I I personally didn’t get offense, they are curious, like when we are when we ask about their religion, lets take Mr Pinno as an Example, it is crystal clear that he comes along to offend Islam as he wont care about what kind of answer you give him as nothing would satisfy him. But as for the people who posted here, they do care, and they understand and respect what we say and explain to them.

Going back to the topic, Black Magic is very common, I heard mostly in Bahla, although I haven’t been there. Allah A3lam.

Its very common in Morocco too.

[Nokia]

hi guys
personal i've realise that most countries where black magic is practised are Muslim countries not only in the middlest but Asia and Africa as well can any one tell us why is this the case??? :lost:
in general in third world countries black magic is verry common:confused:

[Talius Brute]

Black magic is practised widely in America, with many people having a 'utility room' in their house devoted to sacred rituals such as listening to rock music backwards and standing inside pentagons/ sleeping with goats etc.



Black Magic is a brand of chocolate over here in Blighty, very nice too

[Wanderer]

Red candles too, TB.

It's a little known fact that most MCSE's (Microsoft Certified System Engineers) rely on Black Magic to keep their NT 4.0 and Win2000 Servers running.

I personally keep a wooden bowl of Sea Salt, red candles, a rattle, a plucked chicken (in the fridge of course), and a photo of Bill Gates handy for our NT servers.

[Snow^Lady]

WoW...where can i find people who do the black magic in Oman :P ??????????

[Soulless]

hi guys
personal i've realise that most countries where black magic is practised are Muslim countries not only in the middlest but Asia and Africa as well can any one tell us why is this the case??? :lost:
in general in third world countries black magic is verry common:confused:


because muslims now days are just by name , and they are what we can call Earth Rot , we are just living in an islamic country but not among muslims.

however arabs are more specialized in these rituals still no idea why.

[Ayna]

because muslims now days are just by name , and they are what we can call Earth Rot , we are just living in an islamic country but not among muslims.

however arabs are more specialized in these rituals still no idea why.

B9ara7a.. This is the quote of the year. 9a7 kalamek* I agree with you 10000%.



*You're right.

[AMARANT]

lol talk about digging old threads =p

Black magic exists, but not everything strange is caused by it ...

[STING]

If a person prays to god and is close to the Almighty, all this black magic and rubbish won't affect him at all.

The people who do this are sick and evil. It exists, and doubting it is living in denial, but exaggerating their power and abilities is ignorance and stupid.

[dam3t-malak]

it happened to my dad n i have been told that they did something also for me for not getting married:d

we hear alot of things, but i think as long as your faith in god iS strong you wouldnt really pay attention for them.

[STING]

it happened to my dad n i have been told that they did something also for me for not getting married:d

we hear alot of things, but i think as long as your faith in god iS strong you wouldnt really pay attention for them.

Let's meet, if we click, I can marry you tomorrow and prove the whole black magic crap wrong :p

I can marry up to 4 wives, you could be the lucky number 1 ;)

[El Rey]

102. They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme." They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah.s permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!

Surah 2. The Cow


So why afraid ?

[Sophia]

I accept you because this happen to family my sister my means (to husband my sister) partner husband my sister ( he doing magic but I dont black or whit but I understand because sister of husband cant work he not bring money in home and any partner said he say yes yes ok ok but befor that he was very good in business and he work very well please help me before my sister divorce to her husband thankyou.

[Alibali]

There is no such thing as black magic except in the minds of people who cannot face up to the reality of something that is going on in their life. They find soething very difficult to deal with so they blame it on black magic, that way they don't have to face the truth.

Its very sad but very true

[Sophia]

There is no such thing as black magic except in the minds of people who cannot face up to the reality of something that is going on in their life. They find soething very difficult to deal with so they blame it on black magic, that way they don't have to face the truth.

Its very sad but very true
thankyou for your advice ,but all of people said black magic is true and some body see
how is doing ,I have one question of you why sudden bad happened to some family or men of one family with child with good wife and good life sudden men going with another lady or bad business or some ill same cancer or very very bad happen in the one years
I cannt say maybe god want...................

[Manta]

I accept you because this happen to family my sister my means (to husband my sister) partner husband my sister ( he doing magic but I dont black or whit but I understand because sister of husband cant work he not bring money in home and any partner said he say yes yes ok ok but befor that he was very good in business and he work very well please help me before my sister divorce to her husband thankyou.

:)Duh, are you Ok?!!

Any how don’t believe in Black Magic,, or White magic-they only exist if you believe them!!

I hope your sister,, and her husband -Insha-allah the will get well-u just-Pray for them!!:):D:cool:

[minerva]

sophia, just ignore the 'black magic' bit, rely a lot on prayer and self-fortitude and confidence within your and your families' abilities. if you keep thinking that there's a spell working against you, you'll never move forward.

[FLORENTYNA]

I dont beleave in black magic....

[marianna]

We have a form of black magic in the islands. Some Puerto Ricans practice Santaria which is a mixture of Catholicism and Voodoo. Quite interesting to read about actually.

[Sophia]

thankyou manta and minerva and florentyna for your ansewer Ithink you are right I must more pray maybe god help me.

[Sophia]

thankyou dear marianna

[Sophia]

[QUOTE=marianna;1224592]We have a form of black magic in the islands. Some Puerto Ricans practice Santaria which is a mixture of Catholicism and Voodoo. Quite interesting to read about actually.[
I dont know voodoo but one lady from afircan living my house sister she is live with my sister and she is maid and she working 2 years just now she working you think she do that .
(can I add you )

[jack]

Goat detained over armed robbery (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090123/od_nm/us_goat;_ylt=AmL1xoS.Tw1YyGYzRbVLdOcEtbAF)

Black magic live and well in Nigeria ... :hyper:


"The group of vigilante men came to report that while they were on patrol they saw some hoodlums attempting to rob a car. They pursued them. However one of them escaped while the other turned into a goat," Kwara state police spokesman Tunde Mohammed told Reuters by telephone.

[Ms.Timami]

dear all
it is really a true event that i have seen .. when a happy husband divorced his wife of a sudden onset and got engaged with her close friend and for those who know them she ( the friend ) has nothing of value to be compared with his wife.and a few stories we heared on how somebody was in deep unreasonable and unexplaned love with a girle whom never ever thought to be his one.
the explanations we got is that few girles are using a black magic to get those men .. how far is that true.??


hi samy :D

1st for all thanks to bring up such a topic :cute:, nothing can nifty the black magic only the strong Faith ( الايمان)

life was never easy for such type of cases , it’s not only couples are facing this problems its everywhere now days , work, friends , strangers and sometimes will be from your own blood relation “Family’s “ the most pathetic part that’s the only Source to make them feel HAPPY!


May god gives us the Hiddayah and put us in the right path.

Salamz

[toughlife]

Thanks Samy for this topic,,

Unfortunately yes Se7er , it does exist in Oman big time. Personally I have a close friend who has been engaged for yrs, they were great lovers, mad at each other, he loved her more than anything, both preparing for everything and wedding,without reasons,her finacee said to her I am sorry I can’t love you anymore. Very strange, he hated her without any reasons; he didn’t give reasons to both families why he broke up,



They said he was mas7oor, and he has been given a drink to forget his fiancée.
I used to think its all superstitions and nonsense but having seen what happen to my friend and her man,I really believe that does happen,very sad,wallah 7raaaaam
But hey anyone knows any Shikh in Oman who could treat that in the Islamic way not using se7er it self?if so,please send me name and number to my private mail,that will be great,

[pixie girl]

People who practice black magic have very very VERY low self esteem

[Big Deal]

i like black magic...in final fantasy terms

[Listen2theOcean]

the power within is greater than any black, white, gray magic powers cause the power within has a soul that is given by the ultimate power of all " GOD"...

[toughlife]

please if anyone knows any Shikh in Oman who could treat that in the Islamic way not using se7er it self?if so,please send me,the name and number to my private mail,that will be great,May Allah protect you,thanks

[Sporty4life]

people who use black magic should rot in hell forever.

[Russo_turisto]

omg people don't tell me you believe in this.:mmhmm:

[IceTea]

Russo, you don't believe in the existance of magic?

[Russo_turisto]

no, I don't, cause it's haram in my religion. Don't know for you though. But to me, there's no other force in this world but One True God, so I don't believe in this kind of stuff.

[El Rey]

But magic exists and mentioned in the Quran.

[Russo_turisto]

really? oh I thought the very idea of forces other than those of God contradicts the basic principles of monotheism.:rolleyes:

[El Rey]

Yah magic is not allowed in Islam but it exists. It's used to destroy others lives but they won't harm anyone until Allah wants to.

(وَاتَّبَعُوا مَا تَتْلُوا الشَّيَاطِينُ عَلَى مُلْكِ سُلَيْمَانَ وَمَا كَفَرَ سُلَيْمَانُ وَلَكِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ كَفَرُوا يُعَلِّمُونَ النَّاسَ السِّحْرَ وَمَا أُنْزِلَ عَلَى الْمَلَكَيْنِ بِبَابِلَ هَارُوتَ وَمَارُوتَ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ حَتَّى يَقُولا إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ فِتْنَةٌ فَلا تَكْفُرْ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنْهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِ بَيْنَ الْمَرْءِ وَزَوْجِهِ وَمَا هُمْ بِضَارِّينَ بِهِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مَا يَضُرُّهُمْ وَلا يَنْفَعُهُمْ وَلَقَدْ عَلِمُوا لَمَنِ اشْتَرَاهُ مَا لَهُ فِي الْآخِرَةِ مِنْ خَلاقٍ وَلَبِئْسَ مَا شَرَوْا بِهِ أَنْفُسَهُمْ لَوْ كَانُوا يَعْلَمُونَ)

102. They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme." They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah.s permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!

[IceTea]

As El Rey said the magic exists and stated in the holy Quran and the Prophet PBUH sunnah, but that doesn't mean it is allowed.

In fact the punishment of the person who deal with magic is to be killed unless he repent of course.

[Russo_turisto]

ok ok. whatever. I believe only in God and in the force of human cognition which is inspired by Him.

I'd rather that people especially Muslims didn't believe in it because that makes Islam look like some ancient beliefs that existed when people believed in the forces of nature, such as shamanism etc.

I don't believe in magicians too but I believe in people who serve God and do good things because God told them so.

Black magic is a nonsense to me cause it's meant to serve Shaytan but who is Shaytan he's just a fallen angel, thus another creature of the Almighty.

[Listen2theOcean]

I believe god is justice and he can do what any black or non- black magic could do. If I am dealt with unfairly I won’t try to use magic to bring my fair share. I’ll just send my prayers to god using the best respectable words I ever learned. Having faith in such quran phrases that I hold dear into my heart such as this one :

فقال سبحانه تعالي: { ضرب الله مثلا كلمة طيبة كشجرة طيبة أصلها ثابت وفرعها في السماء * تؤتي أكلها كل حين بإذن ربها ويضرب الله الأمثال للناس لعلهم يتذكرون * ومثل كلمة خبيثة كشجرة خبيثة اجتثت من فوق الأرض ما لها من قرار } (إبراهيم:24-26) .

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

(6) Seest thou not how Allah sets forth a parable? - A goodly word like a goodly tree, whose root is firmly fixed, and its branches (reach) to the heavens,- of its Lord. So Allah sets forth parables for men, in order that they may receive admonition.
( سورة إبراهيم , Ibrahim, Chapter #14, Verse #24)


قال رسول صلى الله عليه وسلم
( إتقو دعوة المظلمون فإنه ليس بينها وبين الله حجاب)

As in the main idea meaning of the prohibits callings “ Fear the prayers of an unfairly oppressed there is no veil between it and between god “.

so imagine your justice is brought by god the ultimate power what would you need more than that : - ) ) ) ) ) )

[IceTea]

ok ok. whatever. I believe only in God and in the force of human cognition which is inspired by Him.

I'd rather that people especially Muslims didn't believe in it because that makes Islam look like some ancient beliefs that existed when people believed in the forces of nature, such as shamanism etc.

I don't believe in magicians too but I believe in people who serve God and do good things because God told them so.

Black magic is a nonsense to me cause it's meant to serve Shaytan but who is Shaytan he's just a fallen angel, thus another creature of the Almighty.

How come you want Muslims not to believe in it while it is mentioned in the Quran? And believing in something doesn't mean you accpet it, right?

And Shaytan is a jinn not an angel. :)

[Russo_turisto]

How come you want Muslims not to believe in it while it is mentioned in the Quran? And believing in something doesn't mean you accpet it, right?

And Shaytan is a jinn not an angel. :)

Right the other way round. Believing in something means I need to accept it and settle it in my mind and heart to make it part of me.

But he's made of fire isn't he? Ok whatever that doesn't make him not a creature of God.

God is One, all is from Him and all returns back to Him.

[IceTea]

Right the other way round. Believing in something means I need to accept it and settle it in my mind and heart to make it part of me.

Not really, because believing something exists doesn't mean you should practice it, so in the case of magic it exists but it is haram to learn it or practice it.




God is One, all is from Him and all returns back to Him.

No doubt about that. :)

[Arora]

I don't believe people still go fall for this whole magic exists kinda stories. :bored:

[Riv]

I believe magic exists, but its practiced by people alive in this day and age, I don't believe.

If someone told me that someone is doing magic on me, I will laugh it off and say (and believe) Allah will protect me. And Allah will definitely protect me from any kind of harm.

[Alex Belucci]

Big-time crap, its the 21st century! Its the age of Technology, not the age of WOW Magic! You believe in it, you feel it happens! Simply don't believe in it and it will never happen! Just that simple!

Take my hair, my pants, my turd, my whatever and turn me into a frog! Lets see if you can do that hahaha!

[Lacrymosa]

It's a number 1 sin! :mmhmm:

[delta619]

Oh brother!!!

[Soulless]

Wondering what would happen if an atheist was demonically possessed.

[Jeff]

Wondering what would happen if an atheist was demonically possessed.

Then he would get a No-Priest to pray to the Is-No-God and the Not-Really-a-Demon would get Sort-of-Cast-Out.

Kind of.

Then he could go back to being a meaningless cloud of atoms.

[jack]

Then he would get a No-Priest to pray to the Is-No-God and the Not-Really-a-Demon would get Sort-of-Cast-Out.

Kind of.

Then he could go back to being a meaningless cloud of atoms.No compassion for the no-believer ... sort off?

[Alex Belucci]

Wondering what would happen if an atheist was demonically possessed.

Demonically possessed means Mental Disorder in their point of view! Maybe the movie Me My Self & Irene answers The Exorcist! lool!

[Lacrymosa]

Then he would get a No-Priest to pray to the Is-No-God and the Not-Really-a-Demon would get Sort-of-Cast-Out.

Kind of.

Then he could go back to being a meaningless cloud of atoms.

Now this is super! :XD::XD:

[Lacrymosa]

Demonically possessed means Mental Disorder in their point of view! Maybe the movie Me My Self & Irene answers The Exorcist! lool!

Totally Right! Being possessed is nothing but mental disorders. :yes:

[Soulless]

^ thats in Atheist Point of view but not to believers.

[Jeff]

No compassion for the no-believer ... sort off?

:p Whaaat? Whatchusay? :o

[Lacrymosa]

^ thats in Atheist Point of view but not to believers.

No, it is true. :)

[FLORENTYNA]

mmhh not much of a black magic person :) may be thats why no body has ever been succeed to blackmagic me

[Frozen Echo]

Hmmm if 7asad (the green eye) works then I don't see how black magic wouldn't work.
And muslims cannot deny that 7asad (the green eye) does not work because if they say it doesn't then they're disagreeing with the Quran.
And also magic is mentioned in 7adeeth (sayings of prophets etc) that it is haram.
And to go onto other things... Being gay in the past was treated as a mental sickness.
As for being possessed or any sort of black magic on you is treated in many different ways.

Basically what I'm saying is that everyone has their different sources to things and different beliefs and everyone thinks they're right because apparently... "they know so".
So how do you REALLY know?

[Lacrymosa]

Hmmm if 7asad (the green eye) works then I don't see how black magic wouldn't work.
And muslims cannot deny that 7asad (the green eye) does not work because if they say it doesn't then they're disagreeing with the Quran.




7asad is exist and what is 7asad exactly? When you see soemthing, you just wish to harm it, your eyes release some sort of energy that have the ability to change the electrons in front of them as the mind tells them. This energy can be turned off by saying Allah's name, like "mashAllah or tabark Allah" and stuff like that. This is so true. :yes:

[weirdgoat]

So, 7asad isn't when I'm utterly envious of someone for one reason or another and do everything I can to mess it up for them. It's got nothing to do with my own actions or decisions but is instead some super energy that shoots out of my eyes?

I believe that envy isn't healthy and won't get you anywhere if you're always envious around everyone around you. But I also feel it's more self-destructive to the person himself than to the person he's envious of.

[Beach_lover]

I did beleived it's exist, because my best friend did to me...actually I not really in this..but one of my cousin told me ..that someone hasad in me because I have a lots of of men attention...so what? what I been told also..she wanna me to get sick and slowly killing me end up with die...
Do I need to trus this?

[Lacrymosa]

So, 7asad isn't when I'm utterly envious of someone for one reason or another and do everything I can to mess it up for them. It's got nothing to do with my own actions or decisions but is instead some super energy that shoots out of my eyes?

I believe that envy isn't healthy and won't get you anywhere if you're always envious around everyone around you. But I also feel it's more self-destructive to the person himself than to the person he's envious of.

Yup, it's some kind of energy and you can stop it from harming by saying Allah's name. ;)

[Alex Belucci]

I did beleived it's exist, because my best friend did to me...actually I not really in this..but one of my cousin told me ..that someone hasad in me because I have a lots of of men attention...so what? what I been told also..she wanna me to get sick and slowly killing me end up with die...
Do I need to trus this?

Don't believe in it, nothing is going to happen :)!

[black N white]

okay here's how i see it :).
Black magic does exists and i totally believe in it , being possessed is true too because these stuff have been running around quite a lot in the family in the past , i hear stories from mom like everyday about the old days and what used to happen but her purpose isn't to scare us , its only to teach us and warn us about stuff and some people :inno: .
for one Example my great grandfather (my grandmother's father) was a great man with great powers he used jin and quran to help people and actually fought black magic may he R.I.P ..... when ever i hear about him i get this strange feeling i really wana go back in time and tell him to teach me .. Seriously :p

[amel_soname]

friend now i am going to tell you the symptoms of black magic.
if you have any of these symptoms then you are also suffering from black magic.
1) if some one sees motion or urine in his dream or see himself in bathroom or with the motion attached to his body, see himself/herself in unhygienic condition.
2) headache.
3) the whole body is in pain.
4) the one wishes or wants to have sex.
5) back-ache or has pain in kidneys
6) smelly fats.
7) feels like the body is on fire.
8) the whole body remains hot and so does the mouth.
9) eyes remain red and feels irritation in eyes.
10) you feel to go to the bathroom after a little while for urine and motion.
11) fast heat beats.
12) difficulty in breathing and have chest pain.
13) become irritant.
14) face complexion changes and becomes darker day by day. the more worse the magic is the more your complexion will become darker.
15) feel pain in stomach and you will be having diarrhea like stiuation.
16) pimples appear on the face.
17) face becomes terrible no attraction left in the face.
18) feeling anxiety.
19) becomes impatient.
20) you have all the happiness in life but still you don’t feel happy.
21) what ever you eat you feel hungry again in about an hour and a half.
22) you don’t wish to offer prayer and day by day you go away from religion.
23) always you have throat problem and the voice quality is also affected.
24) get scared in dreams. sometimes sees snakes, spiders, lizards, and cockroaches in dream.
25) you have fear in your heart.
26) feels like some one injecting pins in body.
27) get pain in stomach and feel nausea.
28) become lazy. and sleep for longer durations.
29) you forget where you put things and spend rest of the day in finding. in money transactions give more money.
30) starts hating your self.
31 - seeing blue or pink dots or seeing funny lines
32 - feeling tired without any reason
33 - by reading or hearing the quran do you get pain in your body
34 - feeling sick and hot
35 - always having a erection
36-
37 - hands and feet turn swollen
38 - spots on the head
39 - strong smell in your urine
40 - when you cook a lot does a bad smell come
41 - body feels cold
42 - pain in the feet
43 - seeing dogs and dead people as well as ants in your dream
44 - going skinny day by day
45 - taking medicine which works at the beginning then starts giving you more problems
46 - seeing a women and man having sex meaning a wet dream
47 - body head and shoulders feeling heavy
48 - getting marks on your body
49 - body feels weak for no reason
50 - feeling dizzy and blacked out
51 - getting red spots on the body
52 - on hearing the azan you run away and you hate the azan
different types of magic has different symptoms but the one i wrote before are also present. now this is upon the magician what sort of pain he wants to give to the victim. for example if magician wants to make some girl disrespectful in society and wants to make her parents ashamed in society. then he will do that kind of magic that increases her sex appeal and then starts controlling her mind with his magic. he will do such magic that makes her heart willing to do sex. he will make her body hot so that she becomes hot. he will do such magic that makes her stop thinking then do this that she will be away from offering prayers and quran because offering prayers and reciting quran breaks magic.
this is the magic of sex this is mainly done coz of jealousy, in this kind of situation the girls mind stops working the only thought she has in mind is having sex and she doesn’t know what is happening with her she always thinks about this and atlast she does this with someone. this is the magic of sex.
many people said this quran cant break magic and they think only another reverse magic can stop it. if someones magic is not breaking then there must be a reason behind this and that is also not compulsory that every kind of magic can break only by reciting 4 qul. doctors don’t use same/one medicines to cure different diseases same is in this case we need to find the symptons and then find out what kind of magic has been cast on the victim. different surahs are used to cut different magics each surah has its own uses 4 qul not always cut each type of magic.
remember me in your prayer

amel soname
amel_soname@yahoo.com (amel_soname@yahoo.com)

[jack]

^

Hmmm ... bout half of those symptoms ... son you have a kidney stone :p

Mo mojo about it

other half is normal puberty ... LOL

[UmKhalid]

^

Hmmm ... bout half of those symptoms ... son you have a kidney stone :p

Mo mojo about it

other half is normal puberty ... LOL

HAHA!

I love #40, that if you cook a lot your house'd be smelly. Definitely black magic.

[Alex Belucci]

8- the whole body remains hot and so does the mouth.

41- body feels cold.

Don't go out in the hot, your body will get hot.

Don't sleep with AC, your body will get cold.

But then don't turn off the AC, you body will get hot.

Hmmm.. what kind of nonsense and crap is this? lol

[jack]

Well i'm really impressed with # 36

36- :yes:

definite sign of black magic! :p

[Alex Belucci]

^ LOOOOOOOOOOOL at 36!

[Neena]

Black magic does exist, there is no doubt on that as that as well in mentioned in the Quran.

Those ppl who choose to do such activity are for sure lost, and taking the wrong path.

Allah warns us from doing any black magic, and taking evil acts. But we see this happening a lot in the time that we are living now.

[Lacrymosa]

jack, UmKhalid, Alex.............. Epic!:super: Rep up :p :XD: :hyper:

Hahahahahahahaha @ Amel's symptoms! :XD: Hahaha

[Mimi]

I don't see why you guys find it funny. :)

[ToomuchaT]

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amel_soname.. I think we need to shutdown the medicine colleges. (Hard luck doctors)

Btw, I got a case for you.. we have this guy who is haunted by a female jinn (so basically she is his lover) .. what she causes him is that he always covers his face with his hands.. that's a sign of how jealous is his jinn lover so other people won't look in his face!!

[Booth]

Then he would get a No-Priest to pray to the Is-No-God and the Not-Really-a-Demon would get Sort-of-Cast-Out.

Kind of.

Then he could go back to being a meaningless cloud of atoms.
They would see the person as physiologically ill. And he will take pills that will make him worse.

[UmKhalid]

I don't see why you guys find it funny. :)

Look me in the EYE and tell me you didn't laugh at these:

4) the one wishes or wants to have sex.
16) pimples appear on the face.
35) always having a erection
46) seeing a women and man having sex meaning a wet dream
39) strong smell in your urine
40) when you cook a lot does a bad smell come
1) Headache
36) ...

[LORDMUS]

^ thats in Atheist Point of view but not to believers.

Not necessarily also there are all sorts of "believers" with their beliefs. Islamically we are not given much knowledge about the other side.
Again it's dim minded to classify any sort of unusual behavior as "mentally retarded".There are various classification of retarded-ness in itself which psychologists can't come up with any sort of explanation yet.
There are vast division within this branch that at times I get confused to whether psychology is a "science" or just like mathematics ...

[LORDMUS]

Look me in the EYE and tell me you didn't laugh at these:

4) the one wishes or wants to have sex.
16) pimples appear on the face.
35) always having a erection
46) seeing a women and man having sex meaning a wet dream
39) strong smell in your urine
40) when you cook a lot does a bad smell come
1) Headache
36) ...
WHAT WAS POINT NUMBER THIRTY SIX!!! SOMEONE PLEASE FILL ME IN!!!

I can't bare this secludedness...

[Jihad4Truth]

There is no such thing as black magic, or magic in general.

[jack]

I want # 36 back ... you friggin witch! :XD:

[marianna]

We practice Santaria in Puerto Rico. Quite a few of my relatives do this. No shoo look it up. :D

[jack]

102. They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme." They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah.s permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!

Surah 2. The Cow


So why afraid ?How did i miss this?

But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah.s permission.

Many have supposedly been hurt. So allah gave his permission then ... right?

[Lost In The Sun]

^ Jack ......
There are some Muslims only believe in magic just because its written in Quran :XD: ....
its like "Its unbelievable but we have to believe it cus its there in Quran :D"
Black magic or whatever only exist in RPG games ...
in real life it doesn't exist ....

[Markov]

...
in real life it doesn't exist ....

According to?

[Lost In The Sun]

ME ME ME :hyper:
Science science science :6:...
:rolleyes: ....

[Markov]

Black Magic exists in all religions and societies. There are those who cannot tune there minds into wider horizon.

Jack, was that an opinion or a statement. If it was an opinion, i didnt ask for one. If it was a statement, keep it to yourself.

[jack]

^

Well im sitting here stickin pins in this Markov (Ken doll) ... do you feel it?

[Lost In The Sun]

Black Magic exists in all religions and societies. There are those who cannot tune there minds into wider horizon.

Jack, was that an opinion or a statement. If it was an opinion, i didnt ask for one. If it was a statement, keep it to yourself.

Well Aliens exist in U.S society .....
Gods who have multiple heads exist in Hindu religions :D ...
lets believe in them too ....
Funny logic:XD:

[Markov]

Well Aliens exist in U.S society .....
[/SIZE]

I can understand when people find it hard to believe in the unseen. I have no problems with such people. In fact I would love to be their friend.

I suppose in your humble opinion, US society is the ultimate example you can give.

[vacuum]

well black magic is such a subjective thing and I dont think theres anyway to say it exists or doesent exist...

not only are there so many ways people practice black magic/magic, but there has been little scientific evidence for or against it...

first off im gonna say that i am a photographer/photojounalist, i am living here in oman and i'm extremely interested in this subject since oman is 'famous' for black magic in some parts, I plan on travelling to parts of oman and documenting what goes on in these societies that do this kinda stuff (if I can) I am venturing in with an open mind, i am not looking to defraud it, or glorify it just looking for the truth and to find some interesting things (thinking of started a thread about this when i get a little more organised).

Anyway, I have no idea about how black magic is done in oman, but i know that in parts of Africa they do lots of ceremonies with voodoo/witchcraft/black magic/etc some of the time things seem fake/placebo'', but other times what they do really does have an effect on people, its sort of like hypnotism and 'the power of suggestion' for example if someone is forced to believe they have spirits inside of them, or have a curse placed on them, or believe that somebody is controlling them and making them do things, their 'free will' will become vulnerable and their subconscious will start to act for them, pretty interesting,

there are also lots of plants/seeds/and substances that people could secretly make you take which alter your mind, like ones that give you hallucinations or stuff that makes you sleep/sedated or poison to kill you or whatever, each part of the world has cultures which practice some kind of spiritual ceremonies, i would say atleast some of it is credible, not all of it is ********

[Markov]

Good luck in your findings. Not many ppl into black magic in Oman anymore, we have moved to modern technology. I would be interested in reading whatever you publish on the subject

[Lost In The Sun]

I can understand when people find it hard to believe in the unseen. I have no problems with such people. In fact I would love to be their friend.

I suppose in your humble opinion, US society is the ultimate example you can give.

Well :rolleyes: ..hmm ...
Wat can't be observed or felt with our senses, to be more specific which can't bee observed in a scientific Lab with the machines that human technology have so far ...simply dsnt exist ......


well black magic is such a subjective thing and I dont think theres anyway to say it exists or doesent exist...

not only are there so many ways people practice black magic/magic, but there has been little scientific evidence for or against it...

first off im gonna say that i am a photographer/photojounalist, i am living here in oman and i'm extremely interested in this subject since oman is 'famous' for black magic in some parts, I plan on travelling to parts of oman and documenting what goes on in these societies that do this kinda stuff (if I can) I am venturing in with an open mind, i am not looking to defraud it, or glorify it just looking for the truth and to find some interesting things (thinking of started a thread about this when i get a little more organised).

Anyway, I have no idea about how black magic is done in oman, but i know that in parts of Africa they do lots of ceremonies with voodoo/witchcraft/black magic/etc some of the time things seem fake/placebo'', but other times what they do really does have an effect on people, its sort of like hypnotism and 'the power of suggestion' for example if someone is forced to believe they have spirits inside of them, or have a curse placed on them, or believe that somebody is controlling them and making them do things, their 'free will' will become vulnerable and their subconscious will start to act for them, pretty interesting,

there are also lots of plants/seeds/and substances that people could secretly make you take which alter your mind, like ones that give you hallucinations or stuff that makes you sleep/sedated or poison to kill you or whatever, each part of the world has cultures which practice some kind of spiritual ceremonies, i would say atleast some of it is credible, not all of it is ********

Well You said it by urslf :D ......
its all placebo effect + some mind tricks ....
I like what u want to do ;) ...
good luck nd all the best ...

[Markov]

to be more specific which can't bee observed in a scientific Lab with the machines that human technology have so far ...simply dsnt exist .........

I take it we are talking US/European scientific labs

[Lost In The Sun]

^ huh?? :os

[MsKnuckles]

oh yeaaah. it's called the voodoo doll spell. incantations used here are of the utmost complexity. not your usual hocus pocus...

for the love of pete! omani superstitions really amuse me. hahaha

[Redirection]

Anything and everything can be real, even if it isn't... You just have to believe it is and it becomes real regardless :XD: So far I haven't seen any(or experienced) black magic thing or phenomena :p

I believe that it might exist, even if it does I haven't seen it and don't give me reference to a magician on >TV<

[NighT QueeN]

It's called hurooz btw

Read quran & u'll be fine:D, nothin can touch u then:D.

[Lost In The Sun]

^ am doin fine without it :D ...

[Alex Belucci]

It's called hurooz btw

Read quran & u'll be fine:D, nothin can touch u then:D.

No such thing as 'Hurooz' as well. It can be an advantage to motivate those who believe in it. But in real life there is nothing super in it.

Here an example. One of the goal keepers here in Oman in a big tournament asked someone to make him a 'hurz' so he performs well. So that guy just gave him a piece of black thread and in it blank paper lol. And the keeper performed really well, because he was motivated, thinking there is something super helping him lol. So after the match, the guy told him that he was just given thread and pieces of paper, nothing extra or super.

[NighT QueeN]

^ am doin fine without it :D ...

Then ppl like u:), no need 4 hurooz 2 b done 4 u:rolleyes:.


No such thing as 'Hurooz' as well. It can be an advantage to motivate those who believe in it. But in real life there is nothing super in it.

Here an example. One of the goal keepers here in Oman in a big tournament asked someone to make him a 'hurz' so he performs well. So that guy just gave him a piece of black thread and in it blank paper lol. And the keeper performed really well, because he was motivated, thinking there is something super helping him lol. So after the match, the guy told him that he was just given thread and pieces of paper, nothing extra or super.

There is:o
R u omani?!!
There is no such hurz 2 preform well:dev:, ppl pretend they have knowledge of such things r bunch of liars.
There r hurooz 2 distroy ppls life, make them act different then they r.

[Lost In The Sun]

Then ppl like u:), no need 4 hurooz 2 b done 4 u:rolleyes:.



There is:o
R u omani?!!
There is no such hurz 2 preform well:dev:, ppl pretend they have knowledge of such things r bunch of liars.
There r hurooz 2 distroy ppls life, make them act different then they r.

Why not :D ?? ...
actually they don't work they always never worked ..
plz guide me to someone who can make very powerful hurooz so it helps me to take over Oman :XD: ...

[Alex Belucci]

Then ppl like u:), no need 4 hurooz 2 b done 4 u:rolleyes:.



There is:o
R u omani?!!
There is no such hurz 2 preform well:dev:, ppl pretend they have knowledge of such things r bunch of liars.
There r hurooz 2 distroy ppls life, make them act different then they r.

No there isn't :p. Well I dare all those 'Hurooz' makers to destroy my life and make me act different or do anything bad to me. Lets see if they can.

Please don't believe in such things, they are all just nonsense.

[NighT QueeN]

Why not :D ?? ...
actually they don't work they always never worked ..
plz guide me to someone who can make very powerful hurooz so it helps me to take over Oman :XD: ...

Sry, I prefer Sultan Qaboos:angel:


No there isn't :p. Well I dare all those 'Hurooz' makers to destroy my life and make me act different or do anything bad to me. Lets see if they can.

Please don't believe in such things, they are all just nonsense.

Don't make fun on such things, they really destroyed many ppls lifes:no:.
I know ppl from my own family & friends who deal with such things every day.(meaning they r the victim)
That's why my mom always tell me & my sisters 2 read quran always.

[BrAiKi]

It's all in the head.

Nothing beats a bit of hallucinations in an epileptic brain.

[Lightning]

@ Marvok: i think what he meant to say by this:


to be more specific which can't bee observed in a scientific Lab with the machines that human technology have so far ...simply dsnt exist ......


things that we cant see in a lab < any lab> and by doing test on it, does not exist...for example: LOVE...am i right lost?:rolleyes:

[Lost In The Sun]

^ with certain machines we can observe the reactions that happens in the brain when someone is feeling love :love:,same for pain, lust, envy, greed they all are detectable in the lab :D...they happen in the brain each nd everyone has a certain form nd signal ...

I told u guys that science is interesting :p ......

so technically we can see it ;) ...nd outside the lab we can see what the person would do if he is in love with his beloved ......

[Alex Belucci]

Don't make fun on such things, they really destroyed many ppls lifes:no:.
I know ppl from my own family & friends who deal with such things every day.(meaning they r the victim)
That's why my mom always tell me & my sisters 2 read quran always.
I'm not making fun, I'm serious. These are nonsense. If they exist, Oman would have won the world cup long ago.

[Lightning]

^ with certain machines we can observe the reactions that happens in the brain when someone is feeling love :love:,same for pain, lust, envy, greed they all are detectable in the lab :D...they happen in the brain each nd everyone has a certain form nd signal ...

I told u guys that science is interesting :p ......

so technically we can see it ;) ...nd outside the lab we can see what the person would do if he is in love with his beloved ......

i know about the signals that the brain gives when its feeling something...but its not love my friend its like you said a reaction....the brain will give us signal when a person believes in something too...the same machines that your talking about will detect it also...

alot of people said we are seeing God or angels....and at that same time there brain activity is high!!!! lots of people will say in a lie detoctor there is something called "hurooz" and am affected with it....coz he believes it...the lie detector will not detect any lie...

the same thing goes outside the lab, if we can see what people would do when they are in love....you see some people do stuff and say they are affected by stupid "hirrezz" or something :bored:

[Lost In The Sun]

^ Oh for love of Zeus :o !!
man ur impossible :os ....
It detect the stuff that happens in the brain, right??
yea yea Thats it :D so it means we can see them !!...
unlike Jin, angels, God, shrooms :XD: ..

[Lightning]

dude like it or not...
it detects reactions....its simple and easy to understand...

[Lost In The Sun]

reaction of what :os????
God presence or angels or jins??

ALl the blame to Hollywood :XD:...

[Lightning]

reaction of what :os????


well your the one who said this:


with certain machines we can observe the reactions that happens in the brain

so, your machine can see the reaction....not the love itself??? right??
does that mean love does not exist???

when people read the Quran...there is a reaction in the brain also...when they mention hell...or heaven in the Quran...there is a reaction....when they say "Allah" there is a reaction....

so...all this does not exist? or your machine only sees the reaction and nothing else???

[Lost In The Sun]

I thought ur sayin that it detects the jins :p ....

so, your machine can see the reaction....not the love itself??? right??
does that mean love does not exist???

What is love isn't love is a feeling?? ....do u wana see a walking and talking love (u cn see that too :D when u see a person in love ....
Love exist the feeling that generates in the brain we can see them in a Lab ...
we can see them, we can see them :yes: ,.....

when people read the Quran...there is a reaction in the brain also...when they mention hell...or heaven in the Quran...there is a reaction....when they say "Allah" there is a reaction....
yea cus theses are what u feel in thoses moments fear, happy , peace whatever ...
that says u feel it dsnt say they exist
so...all this does not exist? or your machine only sees the reaction and nothing else???
Feelings exist and we can see them :rolleyes:......
yes we can :D, yes we can :D <<< Obama ...

am talking simple English why ur making it so complicated ..

[Lightning]

am talking really simple...i dont know why your not getting it...

its a feeling...can you see a feeling??? NO you dont....you only see a reaction the brain does when the person is feeling love.
a talking and walking person in love is love itself???? your not making any sense...its like your talking about a flop Indian movie or something!!!!

feelings exist..am with you on that...i never said they dont...
i asked can you see the feelings???? am not talking about the reactions of the brain here...but the feeling itself???? simple answer...NO YOU CANT.

now about the main topic...people will react when they think that they are effected by hurooz...that makes the hurooz itself very real to them....
people who dont believe init...simply wont get effected....

you dont believe in hurooz...nether do I...
thats what i was trying to say...but dont know why you got emotional all of a sudden!!!


its like i said in couple of post before....its all about believing

[Lost In The Sun]

No man u were trying to prove that there are stuff that we don't see but it dsnt mean they don't exist :D ...
such as u said love ....

well surprise we can see them in a scientific lab geared up with the latest technology ....
we see them even if they're just signals nd reactions but we see them ....:hyper:

[Lightning]

please do read my posts....

here for you only <one last time>:
we can see the reactions of the brain when we feel something.....we cant see the feeling itself...
we see the reaction of the brain when its feeling love....we CANT see love actually....and talking and walking guy in love is love actually? thats just stupid...

to put is simply:
see feelings>>>>>NO
see reactions>>>>YES
see love actually>>>>NO
see the brain reaction of love>>>>YES

same thing"
see magic>>>>>NO
see reaction of people who believe in hurooz can effect them>>>>YES

got it brother????!!!!

now i have put up my facts, and if you want to argue about the obvious...its up to you

[NighT QueeN]

I'm not making fun, I'm serious. These are nonsense. If they exist, Oman would have won the world cup long ago.


Oman don't sign in the world cup!!
I think u mean gulf cup.
Any way. It exist 2 me:D, 2 u 't doesn't.
I think that's gonna b the conclusion:).

[Manta]

http://quran.com/2/102

[Nocia9600]

Remember Moses story
And throw what is in your right hand; it will swallow up what they have crafted. What they have crafted is but the trick of a magician, and the magician will not succeed wherever he is." 20:69