View Full Version : These names should not be used anymore!
Fact HearT
15-02-09, 09:55 AM
What do you think of these names?
The moment you look at such names " Abul Al Husain, Abdul Nabi, Abdul Rasool" ...... (عبد الحسين, عبد النبي, عبد الرسول) you can clearly sense that they are not proper!
In another way, I believe that only Asma Allah Al Hosna can be combined in a name with the word " Abdul, عبد" because only god is to be worshiped!
For example: عبدالله, عبدالحميد, عبدالمجيد, Abdul Hameed, Abdul Majeed, Abdullah
However, I would love to hear your opinion on this…..
Big Deal
15-02-09, 10:15 AM
sensitive case .. ofcourse it is wrong to be named Abdul nabi for example...in theory it is .. but as for nic names like Abdul, well buddy it shouldnt be taken literally, but again, it is wrong ..
Just like when people go like " LA ILAH! " (<--literal translation: No god, Asta'3faralaah) <-- WRONNNNG!, la ilah illa ALLAH is correct
Diabian
15-02-09, 10:19 AM
I wouldn't name my kids with such names... but what those names mean are Slave of that person.
And well.. slavery were, and still are, there.
In addition, I still hear racist people calling others 3abd or 5adim ( meaning Slaves) just because of their colours! so why not stop those first ;)
Shinigami
15-02-09, 10:46 AM
It's absolutely wrong to give your kids names that warship anyone but Almighty.
But whats really absurd is that some ignorant people would name their kids by Asma Allah Al Hosna, such as : Al Jabar,Al Raheem...etc
But always keep in your mind that you can name your son: Jabar and Raheem, without the Al, Because Al-in my personal point of view-refers to Al Mighty.
Funny thing I should mention on the naming topic is that in Jaheliya days, people would name their kids the wildest names you could imagine.
For example: Shyttan (trans=Satan) :o .
UmKhalid
15-02-09, 11:43 AM
I thought they didn't allow them anymore, I mean like legally.
Fact HearT
15-02-09, 11:56 AM
I thought they didn't allow them anymore, I mean like legally.
When is that?
But whats really absurd is that some ignorant people would name their kids by Asma Allah Al Hosna, such as : Al Jabar,Al Raheem...etc
But always keep in your mind that you can name your son: Jabar and Raheem, without the Al, Because Al-in my personal point of view-refers to Al Mighty.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
I think that's very wrong, I know guys that go by the names of "Hameed, Rahman, Jabar.."
That's absurd. It should be illegal because it's very wrong as it refers to God.
boombastik
15-02-09, 12:12 PM
well nice thread,, i always kept on wondering how can they name people with these names!!! and it dosent sound right,, but i am sure there is an explantion for this otherwise they wouldnt just let them name thier kids these names. hope someone from the sablanians have an answer.
Listen2theOcean
15-02-09, 12:43 PM
I think we must stop all kind of names starts with slavery was it abdullah or abdulrasul...I am with all to cancel it was it halal or haram :-P starts with a slavery..
Abu Eliyas
15-02-09, 12:44 PM
well nice thread,, i always kept on wondering how can they name people with these names!!! and it dosent sound right,, but i am sure there is an explantion for this otherwise they wouldnt just let them name thier kids these names. hope someone from the sablanians have an answer.
you have point
boombastik
15-02-09, 01:00 PM
I think we must stop all kind of names starts with slavery was it abdullah or abdulrasul...I am with all to cancel it was it halal or haram :-P starts with a slavery..
slavery to ur creater :s thats not the same to slavery to a human being!! i dont think there is anything wrong with the name abdullah,,after all we are all abdullah. as we pray for allah we obey everything allah asked from us to do. but abdulrasul?!!
I think we must stop all kind of names starts with slavery was it abdullah or abdulrasul...I am with all to cancel it was it halal or haram :-P starts with a slavery..
WTF? What kind of religion do you follow woman?
But this coming from you I'm really not surprised. :rolleyes:
I think we must stop all kind of names starts with slavery was it abdullah or abdulrasul...I am with all to cancel it was it halal or haram :-P starts with a slavery..
You are one of Allah (swt) SLAVES.
Unless you think you have created yourself.
Shinigami
15-02-09, 01:26 PM
Took the words right out of my mouth.
I think that's very wrong, I know guys that go by the names of "Hameed, Rahman, Jabar.."
That's absurd. It should be illegal because it's very wrong as it refers to God.
Don't get the wrong idea now,
It's halal to be named :Hameed, Rahman, Jabar...etc.
It's Halal if you don't use Al, because in arabic Hameed is an exaggeration of the word Hamad and so on.:)
Big difference between Strong and The Strong !
I hope I made myself clear:cute:
Pygmalion
15-02-09, 01:28 PM
These names are a hyperbole of respect and allegiance to those people like the prophet and Al-Hussien…
I wouldn’t name my son any of these names, I do not think there is any one lives up to name a person as a slave of his or hers be it Al-Hussein or Ali… but I will not go too far to advocate their prohibition…
Khalid means everlasting, and the prophet himself commented on it as the most fallacious name… who is everlasting other than Allah?
UmKhalid
15-02-09, 02:00 PM
Haha, Pygmalion, El Kalaam Lek Ya Jaara? :p (The words are to you my neighbour)
If the name Khalid is hated, the Prophet :PBUH: would have changed Khalid bin Al Waleed's name, as he did with Hassan's name and others.
There is a difference between Al Baaqi and Khalid, Al Baaqi is a word describing God, he is Everlasting. Khalid literally means Immortal, and we will all be "Khalideen."
Fact HearT
15-02-09, 02:07 PM
Don't get the wrong idea now,
It's halal to be named :Hameed, Rahman, Jabar...etc.
It's Halal if you don't use Al, because in arabic Hameed is an exaggeration of the word Hamad and so on.:)
Big difference between Strong and The Strong !
I hope I made myself clear:cute:
Yah, i do agree with you.....they call it ......."التعريف " ال
Fact HearT
15-02-09, 02:36 PM
There is a difference between Al Baaqi and Khalid, Al Baaqi is a word describing God, he is Everlasting. Khalid literally means Immortal, and we will all be "Khalideen."
That led me to other question....:)
what about if he add ال التعريف في اللغة.....does the meaning will change....?
khalid to AL Khalid.....as baqi to Al Baqi, from other hand what's the different between them?
You are one of Allah (swt) SLAVES.
Unless you think you have created yourself.
cracked me up :XD:
UmKhalid
15-02-09, 03:02 PM
In Oman I could name my son Daniel if I wanted.
Fact HearT
15-02-09, 03:05 PM
In Oman I could name my son Daniel if I wanted.
unless you have Vitamin wooooow...... :p:p:p:p
:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:
ToomuchaT
15-02-09, 03:10 PM
Don't get the wrong idea now,
It's halal to be named :Hameed, Rahman, Jabar...etc.
It's Halal if you don't use Al, because in arabic Hameed is an exaggeration of the word Hamad and so on.:)
Big difference between Strong and The Strong !
I hope I made myself clear:cute:
You can be a very good arabic teacher.
Agree.
Yeah, Gods' names aren't supposed to be used on children.
I also heard that names such as, Malaika, Malak are haram because they're as if the children are named after the Malaika.
UmKhalid
15-02-09, 08:24 PM
I like the name Jibreel.
It's not a nice name anyway, but I do think it doesn't necessarily have to mean the exact same mean.
Some said you can't say Hamood for Mohammad because that's the Prophets name.
Naming a child with the name Munthir (منذر) [warner], is permissible, because all names are permissible in principle
Enslavement to or worship of anything other than Allaah, including Prophets and angels. It is not permissible to be enslaved to or to worship anyone or anything other than Allaah at all. Among the names which express enslavement to or worship of anything other than Allaah are ‘Abd al-Rasool (“slave of the Messenger”), ‘Abd al-Nabi (“slave of the Prophet”) and ‘Abd al-Ameer (slave of the prince) and other names which imply worship of or submission to anything other than Allaah. The person who has a name like this must change it. The great Sahaabi ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: My name was ‘Abd ‘Amr – or according to one report, ‘Abd al-Ka’bah – and when I became Muslim, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) called me ‘Abd al-Rahmaan. (Narrated by al-Haakim, 3/306. Al-Dhahabi agreed with him)
- Names of Allaah which are befitting only for Him, may He be glorified, such as al-Khaaliq (the Creator), al-Raaziq (the Provider), al-Rabb (the Lord), al-Rahmaan (the Most Merciful), etc., which are names that befit only Allaah; names which describe attributes which are true only of Allaah, such as Malik al-Mulook (King of kings), al-Qaahir (the Subduer), etc. It is haraam to call people by these names, and they must be changed. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Do you know of any who is similar to Him?” [Maryam 19:65].
- Names that belong exclusively to the kuffaar and are not used by anyone else, such as ‘Abd al-Maseeh (“slave of the Messiah”), Butrous (Peter), Jurjus (George), and other names which denote religions of kufr.
- Names of idols and false gods which are worshipped instead of Allaah, such as naming someone after a devil and so on.
It is not permissible to call people after the names referred to above; indeed, doing so is haraam and anyone who has such a name is obliged to change itThere are four categories of good names:
The first (best) category is the names ‘Abd-Allaah and ‘Abd al-Rahmaan. It was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most beloved of names to Allaah are ‘Abd-Allaah and ‘Abd al-Rahmaan.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh, 1398).
The second category is all the names which express enslavement to and worship of Allaah, such as ‘Abd al-Azeez, ‘Abd al-Raheem, ‘Abd al-Malik, ‘Abd al-Ilaah, ‘Abd al-Salaam, etc.
The third category is the names of Prophets and Messengers – may the peace and blessings of Allaah be upon them. Undoubtedly the best and greatest of them is our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); the name Ahmad is also one of his names. Next come the names of the “Messengers of strong will” [cf. Al-Ahqaaf 46:35], namely Ibraaheem, Moosa, ‘Eesa and Nooh (may the peace and blessings of Allaah be upon them), then the rest of the Prophets - may the peace and blessings of Allaah be upon them.
The fourth category is the names of righteous slaves of Allaah, above all the companions of our noble Prophet. It is mustahabb to use their names, following their example and hoping to reach a higher status.
The fifth category is any other good name which has a proper and pleasant meaning.
http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/7180
Rock Devil
16-02-09, 03:55 PM
Took the words right out of my mouth.
I think that's very wrong, I know guys that go by the names of "Hameed, Rahman, Jabar.."
That's absurd. It should be illegal because it's very wrong as it refers to God.
Hameed, Rahman and Jabar does raise eyebrows but it's not 7aram. It means Allah. I asked a Shaikh. What he did told is 7aram is to call someone AlHameed, AlRahman or AlJabbar since it means that the person with the name is God.
FAITH86
16-02-09, 06:33 PM
Names are for free. I think ppl should pay more attention when naming their kids.
Most people never think what does the name of their kid mean. Pity :)
It's wrong .. and shouldn't be allowed
I've always thought its not allowed anymore .. :os
Angel_Eyes
16-02-09, 08:04 PM
Very good topic Fact HearT.
Just like when people go like " LA ILAH! " (<--literal translation: No god, Asta'3faralaah) <-- WRONNNNG!, la ilah illa ALLAH is correct
Agreed :yes:
People shouldn't be named after Him. I heard of some boy named AlJabbar! :os
I was like WHAAAT? Who would name their son THAT name?:os
Haram. :yes:
Jihad4Truth
16-02-09, 08:38 PM
What does the name Kareem Abdul Jabar mean? Is that haram?
Angel_Eyes
16-02-09, 08:41 PM
Kareem means Kind. That's ok but if you add 'al' infront of it, that would be haram because that's one of Allah's names... Al Kareem (The most kind)
Abdul means "the slave of"...and Jabbar is another one of His names. ( Don't know the exact translation in english though)
I call upon our esteemed government in Oman not to allow any such names which have "shirk" meanings or names of Allah swt or "Kaffir" names to be registered in b'day certificates.
I have an old friend his name Abdul Nabi I call him Khadim al Nabi (the servant of the Prophet) and he is very happy with that name.
Jihad4Truth
16-02-09, 08:46 PM
So Kareen Abdul Jabbar means Kind Slave of God?
Angel_Eyes
16-02-09, 08:47 PM
^ :os Don't they know what their doing when they name their child? (to clouds)
^^AE some parents are ignorant about Islam but the government should be the deterrent.
I agree some names should not be allowed.
So Kareen Abdul Jabbar means Kind Slave of God?
It's kareem and it means generous. Yah some names are funny :D
Diabian
18-02-09, 09:39 PM
I think we must stop all kind of names starts with slavery was it abdullah or abdulrasul...I am with all to cancel it was it halal or haram :-P starts with a slavery..
Abd: its more of submission that slavery !!
Sporty4life
18-02-09, 09:43 PM
having names like abdulali or abdulhussien is haram.
hmm :P my great great grandfather's name is "Abdul rasool"
it is wrong but who am i to judge ! his father named him abdul rasool nd that's like a 50+ years ago ! or even more i dunno
these names are surley not to be used ! abdul rasoo ! abul hossin nd others !
it's not like being a slave or something to any1
but the words of allah were very clear ! no one to be worshipped besides him
that's mean all of us are abdul allah !
and naming ur son as abdul "any of allah's name" is appropriate
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