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Rock Devil

27-01-09, 11:11 PM

A simple advice for those who don't pray.

Lym

27-01-09, 11:16 PM

You will burn in hell if you don't :angel:

Jeff

27-01-09, 11:18 PM

El Rey

27-01-09, 11:20 PM

{ إن بين الرجل والكفر والشرك ترك الصلاة }

(Whoever doesn't pray is not considered a muslm)
Hadeeth

Superbia

27-01-09, 11:22 PM

(الفرق بين المسلم والكافر ترك الصلاة)

The difference between a Muslim & a Kaffir is not praying.

Fatiko

27-01-09, 11:54 PM

And the advice would be ? Lemme guess ... Emmmm, pray ? :)

Alright, thanks.. Your advice is taken ! :cute:

Jeff

28-01-09, 12:22 AM

Hmm.

Well, is it better to pray sometimes?

Or do you say to someone who only prays sometimes, "It's all or nothing. If you don't keep your obligation, you might as well forget about it. Praying every other day is no better than not praying at all..."

GingerPop

28-01-09, 12:57 AM

God mentions in the quran that he created mankind and the unseen world to pray. Therefore if you have any issues with your creator and dont pray, I suggest you sort it out fast because life is short and in a blink of a second you will have alot of explaining to do and very little face before him, the Almighty.

Someone once mentioned to me that she beleived she will go to hell if she dies - because she doesn't pray. I was tempted to light a match, and burn her arm for a split second. Observe her immediate reaction. Maybe reality will hit and realise she ain't immune to eternal suffering after all :dev:

GingerPop

28-01-09, 01:03 AM

Are you looking for advice for those who don't pray?

My advice would be: Pray!

Or try, anyway. A little bit is better than nothing.

Facing God helps, just facing Him. Begin with baby steps.

And if you do it sometimes, take heart. Doing it a little or doing it badly is far better than not doing it at all.

But maybe Muslims have a different way of looking at it.

Muslims don't have the option to leave out some prayers and MUST perform every one of them. However for an unpractising muslim, I personally agree that something is better than nothing. I.e. God is merciful and whatever prayers you have already performed may be considered huge in his eyes and could linearize the form of punishment. And god knows best!

Jeff

28-01-09, 01:09 AM

Muslims don't have the option to leave out some prayers and MUST perform every one of them. However for an unpractising muslim, I personally agree that something is better than nothing. I.e. God is merciful and whatever prayers you have already performed may be considered huge in his eyes and could linearize the form of punishment. And god knows best!

Thanks! A careful and spiritual answer.

(Can't rep you because it says I'm not allowed to! :p )

marianna

28-01-09, 01:23 AM

Not to be funny but what about people who are say very ill physically or mentally and cannot pray? What is their recourse?

GingerPop

28-01-09, 01:28 AM

According to my knowledge, Severely mentally ill people are excempted from praying, and their deeds are unaccounted for..

Physically ill people can still pray in whichever position is most comfortable. Even paralysed and bed ridden individuals can pray in their heart, and receive no less a merit than individuls who are able to pray up-right.

theKilller

28-01-09, 03:18 AM

Pray and make use of salah and dua to solve any problem that even the best experts of this world cannot solve. Unfortunately, the Muslims are turning away from these deeds today when they need them the most. We pray for Allah to give us the true understading of Islam....

Not sure about how old u are, but if you are in the teenage's you start make it to a routine, it will make it alot easier for you later on your life...insh'Allah!

DODY

28-01-09, 04:28 AM

somtimes i think prayers nowdays are not accepted.

Blackout

28-01-09, 07:44 AM

somtimes i think prayers nowdays are not accepted.

Well you never know now right? We pray to God, on time, respectfully and with faith and hope that we’ll get to Heaven.

Arabian Princess

28-01-09, 07:52 AM

praying makes you content, it makes you feel you have Allah close to you. Just pray once (scincerly) and I gurantee you that you will do it all the time

Listen2theOcean

28-01-09, 08:00 AM

praying faithfully opens your chackra balance your energy makes you more possitive and open to the good things in life.

lak47

28-01-09, 08:05 AM

Be good, do good.
&
Parents.

FAITH86

28-01-09, 10:50 AM

praying makes you content, it makes you feel you have Allah close to you. Just pray once (scincerly) and I gurantee you that you will do it all the time

I second that. :yes:

Abu Eliyas

28-01-09, 10:53 AM

Rock Devil this is what my father tell to me befor he die.

(really good it take me long time to get the point of his Advice)

his word was so simple

pray you will get all what you wish from this life.

Rock Devil this from me

praying will safe you all time from any thing bad and it will make you happy and in

every step in your life will be easy.

(praying is big then what we think)

hope that you got my point

good thread:)

Sporty4life

28-01-09, 11:03 AM

You will burn in hell if you don't :angel:
best comment ever, simple, yet to the point!

El Rey

28-01-09, 11:36 AM

Rock Devil

28-01-09, 03:55 PM

You will burn in hell if you don't :angel:
More of a death treat than an advice, but 9a7 lisanish. :p

Help in translating?

Rock Devil this is what my father tell to me befor he die.

(really good it take me long time to get the point of his Advice)

his word was so simple

pray you will get all what you wish from this life.

Rock Devil this from me

praying will safe you all time from any thing bad and it will make you happy and in

every step in your life will be easy.

(praying is big then what we think)

hope that you got my point

good thread:)
omandreamer, such modest words with a true meaning. I really agree with both your dad and yourself. Thanks for the reply.

B S Al Hassani

28-01-09, 09:17 PM

minerva

29-01-09, 12:50 AM

praying gives you comfort, and psychologically it gives you some introspective quiet time. it gives you a sense of security and connection with your maker. i love praying both alone and in a crowd. when i pray every morning with my class, we throw away all that divides us, the little squabbles, what made us angry. we become one and prayer helps us to continue the day, as much as possible, in a good mood. it reminds us of who we are, that at the end of the day we are all brothers and sisters in one God.

Threadlike

29-01-09, 02:03 AM

Telling someone he'll end up in hell scares him or bores him if it's repeated.
And telling him he should do it JUST because it gets him to heaven makes him totally miss the point.

The point of prayer isn't in JUST getting to heaven, it's in making someone much better on the inside. Certain people just can't handle that either because they LIKE being bad on the inside (in which case they need a shrink or some really good counsel) or they just WANT to be bad inside (in which case, they're idiots). At any point, telling someone he should pray or otherwise he'll go to hell and that's it will work on a 12-year-old, not someone mature enough to understand the MAIN need of prayer.

Filly_Stiffler

29-01-09, 02:21 AM

well, u never know when the god's takin your soul so u better pray bfor regretting it in ur grave!
the god gave u everythin in this life..... so why not jus giv him 5 minz to pray?!! is it hard? lol

Lime

29-01-09, 02:39 AM

More of a death treat than an advice, but 9a7 lisanish. :p

Help in translating?

9a7 Lisanish: Well Said.

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This might be slightly out of topic, but what about the people who pray, but can't concentrate in their prayer. As in either they're always thinking about something at the back of their mind or they pray in a trance.

Manta

29-01-09, 03:58 PM

9a7 Lisanish: Well Said.

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This might be slightly out of topic, but what about the people who pray, but can't concentrate in their prayer. As in either they're always thinking about something at the back of their mind or they pray in a trance. :) You count me there because when I pray,, always; thinking of Mahrajani Muscat,, and Hyatt Regency-and where 2 get nice chickens….BTW; u can go back 4 what u have missed…Insha-allah I will pray b4 the pray 4 me…….say; Ameniii….....

Endure Whisper

29-01-09, 04:02 PM

My advice would be: Pray -- and talk about Heaven and how beautiful his/her castle would be in Heaven if he/she prayed (instead of telling him/her about his/her grave in Hell)!

I don't support scaring or talking negative when you advice!!

Evana

29-01-09, 04:40 PM

Russo_turisto

29-01-09, 05:13 PM

hm... talking negative...
I agree with Threadlike and I would like to add that prayer isn't alone a green light to the Heaven. I guess there are violent criminals who commit prayer 5 times every day on time... but then they go and rob, kill, and rape. Maybe because they mistakenly think that all their sins will be forgiven in the coming life bcuz they prayed heavily in this one...

These are called hypocrites and they won't get into Heaven Insha'Allah despite all their vain attempts to substitute their sins with prayer. But of course it's all up to Him, the Most Merciful.

Arabian Princess

29-01-09, 11:20 PM

hm... talking negative...
I agree with Threadlike and I would like to add that prayer isn't alone a green light to the Heaven. I guess there are violent criminals who commit prayer 5 times every day on time... but then they go and rob, kill, and rape. Maybe because they mistakenly think that all their sins will be forgiven in the coming life bcuz they prayed heavily in this one...
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Prayers are supposed to stop a person from committing evil, if it didn't it means something is wrong with the prayer.

DODY

29-01-09, 11:25 PM

dear who dont pray

if u pray that will be nice for u and i
if u dont, then it will be bad for u only

so think before u be killed

Chantalle

29-01-09, 11:57 PM

Just pray goddamit lol you won't lose anything if you do!

clouds

30-01-09, 01:05 AM

A simple advice for those who don't pray.

if you are a Muslim and you don't pray you are in the lowest grade of heaven InshAllah.

and if you are a Muslim and pray you could be in the HIGHEST grade of heaven InshAllah.

but if you are a Kaffir whether you pray or not you are in HELL for sure.

so which one of those three are you?

GingerPop

30-01-09, 09:11 AM

if you are a Muslim and you don't pray you are in the lowest grade of heaven InshAllah.

Any supporting sources? :mmhmm:

Russo_turisto

30-01-09, 10:35 AM

but if you are a Kaffir whether you pray or not you are in HELL for sure.

Allah knows best. Hopefully He'll give all of us what we deserve on the Last Day irregardless of our creed.

El Rey

31-01-09, 07:56 AM

if you are a Muslim and you don't pray you are in the lowest grade of heaven InshAllah.

?

I've never heard of this :os . Please support it with a credible evidence from Quran o hadeeth.

Khalid

31-01-09, 07:59 AM

if you are a Muslim and you don't pray you are in the lowest grade of heaven InshAllah.

Ahuh!?
If you're muslim and you dont pray to HELL inshaAlllah!

Sources ????

clouds

03-02-09, 11:10 PM

Any supporting sources? :mmhmm:

I've never heard of this :os . Please support it with a credible evidence from Quran o hadeeth.

Ahuh!?
If you're muslim and you dont pray to HELL inshaAlllah!

Sources ????

""من قال لا اله الا الله دخل الجنة

"who ever says "LA Ilaha Ila Allah" there is no God but Allah enters heaven"

authentic hadith in Bukhari and Muslim.

Abu Eliyas

03-02-09, 11:23 PM

some people really post funny things :)

Sporty4life

03-02-09, 11:24 PM

^CLOUDS
misinterpreted hadeth. that means all of us can do whatever we want, but just say ashaduanalailahillalahmuhammmedarasullala, once in our lives?!Fir3oan said that once before he was dying and he still is never entering jennah.

clouds

03-02-09, 11:28 PM

^^ ALL muslims will end up in heaven whether you like it or not I gave the proof what else do you want???

but there are more than 100 grades in heaven so which one would you like to be in???

Sporty4life

03-02-09, 11:36 PM

it's not that simple!!it isn't like any person who says "i'm a muslim" goes to heaven. if you don't pray your automatically going to hell, eventually all people who said shahada, and meant it, will go to heaven.

clouds

03-02-09, 11:40 PM

^^"Ashkurak" Thank you you got my point at the end eventually ALL muslims will end up in heaven.

thank you Allah for the greatest gift of ISLAM.

Sporty4life

03-02-09, 11:42 PM

^ok everything all cleared up...

Geya

04-02-09, 09:11 AM

L0o00oL its there life they know what would happen they dont need sabla to remind them :D

El Rey

04-02-09, 09:16 AM

Not all of them know.

El Rey

04-02-09, 09:19 AM

""من قال لا اله الا الله دخل الجنة

"who ever says "LA Ilaha Ila Allah" there is no God but Allah enters heaven"

authentic hadith in Bukhari and Muslim.

If that's so then why are you saying only muslims will go to heaven. Christians and jews believe in one God as well. I believe the same God we believe in excluding the Christians who take Jesus PBUH as God.

So I can Say No God but Allah and do whatever I want from sins and then go to heaven ? Is this what you're saying ?

Here are some verses from the Holy Quran about the importance of praying in Islam.

( الَّذِينَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْغَيْبِ وَيُقِيمُونَ الصَّلاةَ وَمِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ يُنفِقُونَ ) (3) سورة البقره

( وَأَقِيمُواْ الصَّلاَةَ وَآتُواْ الزَّكَاةَ وَارْكَعُواْ مَعَ الرَّاكِعِينَ ) (43 ) سورة البقره

( وَاسْتَعِينُواْ بِالصَّبْرِ وَالصَّلاَةِ وَإِنَّهَا لَكَبِيرَةٌ إِلاَّ عَلَى الْخَاشِعِينَ ) (45) سورة البقره

( وَإِذْ أَخَذْنَا مِيثَاقَ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ لاَ تَعْبُدُونَ إِلاَّ اللّهَ وَبِالْوَالِدَيْنِ إِحْسَاناً وَذِي الْقُرْبَى وَالْيَتَامَى وَالْمَسَاكِينِ وَقُولُواْ لِلنَّاسِ حُسْناً وَأَقِيمُواْ الصَّلاَةَ وَآتُواْ الزَّكَاةَ ثُمَّ تَوَلَّيْتُمْ إِلاَّ قَلِيلاً مِّنكُمْ وَأَنتُم مِّعْرِضُونَ ) (83) سورة البقره

( اتْلُ مَا أُوحِيَ إِلَيْكَ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ وَأَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ إِنَّ الصَّلَاةَ تَنْهَى عَنِ الْفَحْشَاء وَالْمُنكَرِ وَلَذِكْرُ اللَّهِ أَكْبَرُ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا تَصْنَعُونَ ) (45) سورة العنكبوت

( مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَلَا تَكُونُوا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ ) (31) سورة الروم

( الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُم بِالْآخِرَةِ هُمْ يُوقِنُونَ ) (4) سورة لقمان

( يَا بُنَيَّ أَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ وَأْمُرْ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَانْهَ عَنِ الْمُنكَرِ وَاصْبِرْ عَلَى مَا أَصَابَكَ إِنَّ ذَلِكَ مِنْ عَزْمِ الْأُمُورِ ) (17) سورة لقمان

( وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَى وَأَقِمْنَ الصَّلَاةَ وَآتِينَ الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِعْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا ) (33) سورة الأحزاب

( وَلَا تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَى وَإِن تَدْعُ مُثْقَلَةٌ إِلَى حِمْلِهَا لَا يُحْمَلْ مِنْهُ شَيْءٌ وَلَوْ كَانَ ذَا قُرْبَى إِنَّمَا تُنذِرُ الَّذِينَ يَخْشَوْنَ رَبَّهُم بِالغَيْبِ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَمَن تَزَكَّى فَإِنَّمَا يَتَزَكَّى لِنَفْسِهِ وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ ) (18) سورة فاطر

( إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَتْلُونَ كِتَابَ اللَّهِ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَنفَقُوا مِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ سِرًّا وَعَلَانِيَةً يَرْجُونَ تِجَارَةً لَّن تَبُورَ ) (29) سورة فاطر

( وَالَّذِينَ اسْتَجَابُوا لِرَبِّهِمْ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَمْرُهُمْ شُورَى بَيْنَهُمْ وَمِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ يُنفِقُونَ ) (38) سورة الشورى

( أَأَشْفَقْتُمْ أَن تُقَدِّمُوا بَيْنَ يَدَيْ نَجْوَاكُمْ صَدَقَاتٍ فَإِذْ لَمْ تَفْعَلُوا وَتَابَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْكُمْ فَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَاللَّهُ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ ) (13) سورة المجادله

( يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِذَا نُودِي لِلصَّلَاةِ مِن يَوْمِ الْجُمُعَةِ فَاسْعَوْا إِلَى ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَذَرُوا الْبَيْعَ ذَلِكُمْ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ ) (9) سورة الجمعه

( فَإِذَا قُضِيَتِ الصَّلَاةُ فَانتَشِرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَابْتَغُوا مِن فَضْلِ اللَّهِ وَاذْكُرُوا اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ ) (10) سورة الجمعه

( إِنَّ رَبَّكَ يَعْلَمُ أَنَّكَ تَقُومُ أَدْنَى مِن ثُلُثَيِ اللَّيْلِ وَنِصْفَهُ وَثُلُثَهُ وَطَائِفَةٌ مِّنَ الَّذِينَ مَعَكَ وَاللَّهُ يُقَدِّرُ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ عَلِمَ أَن لَّن تُحْصُوهُ فَتَابَ عَلَيْكُمْ فَاقْرَؤُوا مَا تَيَسَّرَ مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ عَلِمَ أَن سَيَكُونُ مِنكُم مَّرْضَى وَآخَرُونَ يَضْرِبُونَ فِي الْأَرْضِ يَبْتَغُونَ مِن فَضْلِ اللَّهِ وَآخَرُونَ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَاقْرَؤُوا مَا تَيَسَّرَ مِنْهُ وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَأَقْرِضُوا اللَّهَ قَرْضًا حَسَنًا وَمَا تُقَدِّمُوا لِأَنفُسِكُم مِّنْ خَيْرٍ تَجِدُوهُ عِندَ اللَّهِ هُوَ خَيْرًا وَأَعْظَمَ أَجْرًا وَاسْتَغْفِرُوا اللَّهَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ ) (20) سورة المزمل

( وَمَا أُمِرُوا إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ مُخْلِصِينَ لَهُ الدِّينَ حُنَفَاء وَيُقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَذَلِكَ دِينُ الْقَيِّمَةِ ) (5) سورة البينه

Geya

04-02-09, 09:31 AM

the ones who dont know arent muslim im guessing lol WHO WOULDNT KNOW ^o)

IceTea

04-02-09, 10:28 AM

""من قال لا اله الا الله دخل الجنة

"who ever says "LA Ilaha Ila Allah" there is no God but Allah enters heaven"

authentic hadith in Bukhari and Muslim.

What if he commits suicide?

IceTea

04-02-09, 10:31 AM

A simple advice for those who don't pray.

To start praying and repent before they die.

How long it takes to pray, maybe 5 minutes.

5 (minutes) X 5 (prayers)= 25 minutes per day.

Storm

04-02-09, 06:58 PM

Here are some verses from the Holy Quran about the importance of praying in Islam.

El Rey - 24 hours for translations.

Thanks

Angel_Eyes

04-02-09, 07:12 PM

""من قال لا اله الا الله دخل الجنة

"who ever says "LA Ilaha Ila Allah" there is no God but Allah enters heaven"

authentic hadith in Bukhari and Muslim.

Yes, I do believe that , BUT not everyone who just says it automatically goes to heaven. You see, at the moment of death, it's difficult for a person who's not that close to God (yet is STILL a muslim) to just say it. It has to be on the person's tongue frequently. I can't say I know what it's like at the moment of death but I'm sure it's something we truely don't fully know, and for a person to say it at that final moment, means that they are a person of real closeness to God to have said it. It's about true faith. It's about what's really in your heart and what you really mean.

^^ ALL muslims will end up in heaven whether you like it or not I gave the proof what else do you want???

but there are more than 100 grades in heaven so which one would you like to be in???
I have to disagree with that. Some people say they are muslim and they do pray yet unseen by the public eye, they could be murders and rapists. I doubt there is a place in heaven for them. I believe that the right term is "mu2min" مؤمن(true believer). All mu2mineen will go. And only Allah knows what's in their hearts.

The Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross and paid for all of mankind's sins. That doesn't mean a criminal wont be judged fairly on the day of judgement. So obviously that beliefe is incorrect.

And what's that about 100 grades? :think: Is it not 7?

Angel_Eyes

04-02-09, 07:13 PM

To start praying and repent before they die.

How long it takes to pray, maybe 5 minutes.

5 (minutes) X 5 (prayers)= 25 minutes per day.

I liked this advice the most. It shows how simple it really is.

Russo_turisto

04-02-09, 07:16 PM

To start praying and repent before they die.

How long it takes to pray, maybe 5 minutes.

5 (minutes) X 5 (prayers)= 25 minutes per day.

LOL I counted the time, it takes me more than an hour per day all-in-all to do all 5 prayers. Just Fardh and Sunna. It's either you who's rapid like Schumacher or myself who's slow as a snail.

El Rey

05-02-09, 11:29 AM

El Rey - 24 hours for translations.

Thanks

I can't translate all of the verses but I already mentioned they talk about the importance of praying which is the general meaning. You can delete them though I understand that.

Abu Eliyas

06-03-09, 03:37 PM

Rock Devil i wish you to get this book from (al-fair in al-bahja) for

OMROU KALID the title is (عبادات المؤمن) it is really good book to read i hope you will like this book

Booth

06-03-09, 04:25 PM

''You could die at any second, you don't want to die missing a prayer..''
I liked the advertisements of ''أقم صلاتك قبل مماتك" touching.

''For all the things God gave you, you're supposed to give God something in return, the least you could do is pray"

Right before opening this thread I told my brother to ''itwadha'' [Get clean] and go pray, he asked me ''Ay salah'' [What prayer].