Why is that our supplication is not answered

[Sun]

"AND YOUR LORD SAYS: 'CALL ON ME I WILL ANSWER YOUR PRAYER..." [Soorah Ghaafir (40): 60]

"We supplicate and we are not answered." So he said to them:

"You know Allaah, Yet you do not obey Him,
You recite the Qur'aan, Yet do not act according to it,
You know Shaitaan(Devil), Yet you have agreed with him,
You proclaim that you love the Messenger of Allah, sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam, Yet you abandon his Sunnah,
You proclaim your love for Paradise, Yet you do not act to gain it,
You proclaim your fear for the Fire, Yet you do not prevent yourselves from sins,
You say "Indeed death is true", Yet you have not prepared for it,
You engage yourselves with finding faults with others, Yet you do not look at your faults,
You eat of that which Allah has provided for you, Yet you do not thank Him,
You bury your dead, Yet you do not take a lesson from it."

We need to remind ourselves of why Allah is not answering our Duah ( Supplication) reasons are mentioned above .
Lets us try our best .

[Najah]

Thanx for the reminder Sun cause we need it so bad specially those days?!
As i can see how people around keep fprgetting that there is ajudgment day?!!!!
And that this is just a short life to think of?!

[Wanderer]

Hmmm, which gives better odds, prayer or pure chance ?

Pray for something simple - but unexpected. If you don't get it, you must not be worthy.

Bummer.

[Sun]

Yup , we are better off , we dont believe that some one else died for our sins to be saved now do we??
A God who was supposes to have come down as a son and died DRAMATICALLY is our saviour ???
For crying out loud , he couldnt save him self .
No need to do supplication just believe BELIEVE what a cheap thrill knowing no matter what you do you are saved by Jesus blood .
Bummers..

[MoonChild]

You keep forgetting Sun we aren't all Christians!

[MoonChild]

Originally posted by Sun
"AND YOUR LORD SAYS: 'CALL ON ME I WILL ANSWER YOUR PRAYER..." [Soorah Ghaafir (40): 60]

"We supplicate and we are not answered." So he said to them:

....

We need to remind ourselves of why Allah is not answering our Duah ( Supplication) reasons are mentioned above .
Lets us try our best .

Or perhaps it's just that the answer is NO :)

[Wanderer]

Originally posted by Sun
Yup , we are better off , we dont believe that some one else died for our sins to be saved now do we??

Um, Sun, you drinking or recently harvested poppies?

How are you better off than a Christian when your God doesn't answer your prayers ?? That doesn't make any sense at all. Allah doesn't answer my prayers, but at least I don't believe in what thoose crazy Christians believe !! A Duh .




Allah hears your prayers - he is God, eh? So he's just saying "No" you cannot have that from ME.

Bummer.

[Bimzoori]

MoonChild/Wanderer and the rest,

Yes, Allah promised to answer our prayers, yet we have to fullfil our obligations as human beings towards our Creator..
I mean how can you excpect something from someone if you're not doing your duties towards him/her??

To get a better understading, lets see the completion of the verse..

"And your Lord says:'call on Me; I will answer your (prayer): BUT those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell-in humiliation' " [40:60]

yes, our prayers will be answered, if not in this world in the Hereafter, under he condition that perform our duties well..

[MoonChild]

Originally posted by Bimzoori
Yes, Allah promised to answer our prayers, yet we have to fullfil our obligations as human beings towards our Creator..
I mean how can you excpect something from someone if you're not doing your duties towards him/her??


I get your point, but do you think that Allah is somehow obligated to give you everything you ask for? What I mean is, I think Islam is similar to Christianity (and others) in believing that Allah has a Plan (the Will of Allah, yes?) and knows what is best for each of us. So no matter how good and devoted I am, the answer to my prayer might be NO because it is not the best thing for me, or it would cause another to be harmed.

Surely belief in Allah includes belief that He knows what you truly NEED, not what you simply DESIRE, and answers prayers according to the wisdom that you may not possess when you make a request...

[Bimzoori]

Originally posted by MoonChild


Surely belief in Allah includes belief that He knows what you truly NEED, not what you simply DESIRE, and answers prayers according to the wisdom that you may not possess when you make a request...



EXACTLY MOON...infact you are thinking like a Muslim now :)

I forgot to mention an important point, its my fault..

Answering our prayers can take either of teh following forms..
1- It is either answered in this world
2-If not, then our sins will be wiped out
3-Or, the reward is saved for the Hereafter..

This was explained by our prophet, and this is why we continue to suuplicate to our Lord, even if our supplications are not asnwered in this world..

Moon, I have the prophetic saying in Arabic, I'll try to look for it in English and post it here..

[Sun, or anyone, correct me if I'm wrong in what I said]

[MoonChild]

Originally posted by Bimzoori

EXACTLY MOON...infact you are thinking like a Muslim now :)


Sorry Bimmy, Islam doesn't have exclusive rights to rational spiritual thinking - although I'm pleased that Muslims share this rather common perception of God's wisdom :)

[Bimzoori]

Didn't mean to offend you, Moon..

[MoonChild]

I'm not offended, just mildly amused that every "true believer" I converse with, from any religion, thinks that I'm "getting it" (understanding THEIR religion), if I say something they happen to agree with.

The basic tenets of all the major religions are almost identical - which is endlessly surprising to adherents to most of them.

Friends?

[Bimzoori]

:) we are here to learn from each other :)

[Sun]

Let me explain how we muslims supplicate ( Dua) :

The Fundamentals of Belief offers evidence for the necessary existence and unity of God, and certain proofs of the comprehensiveness of dominicality and the immensity of Divine power. It proves too both the comprehensiveness of Divine sovereignty, and the extensiveness of Divine mercy, and the encompassment of Divine knowledge, and the fact that Divine wisdom embraces all the beings of the universe.In Short: In each of the introductory passages of this Eighth Proof are eight conclusions. Proving these eight conclusions through their evidences, this Eighth Proof has high value.In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.

"Behold! In the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the oceans for the profit of mankind; in the rain which God sends down from the skies, and the life He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the disposal of the winds and the clouds subjugated between the sky and the earth, indeed are signs for people who think ( 2:164)."

God’s Most Noble Messenger, the supreme Holy Book's commentator and interpreter, expounded one level —about Divine unity— of the numerous luminous levels of this sublime verse in one of the ninety-nine sections of his peerless supplication. Alluding in the supplication through a thousand and one Divine Names to a thousand and one proofs of Divine unity, he described his Sustainer. One of those sections is this: O You Who is the First of all things, and the Last;

O God of all things, and their Maker;

O Provider of all things, and their Creator;

O Maker of all things, and their Owner;

O Giver of want to all things, and Giver of plenty;

O Originator of all things, and their Renewer;

O Causer of all things, Who determines them with due measure;

O Nurturer of all things, and their Administrator;

O You Who ‘rolls up’ all things, and causes their constant change;

O Giver of life to all things, and Dealer of death.

Glory be unto You! There is no god but You! Mercy! Mercy! Deliver us from Hell-fire!This sample shows that the Noble Messenger’s knowledge of God, and his proofs of Divine unity were at such a level that no one is equal to him, and that in this field he is the supreme leader. By following him, everyone may enter that treasury. It is clear that knowledge, sciences, and arts are perfected through the conjunction of ideas and blending of minds; through ideas being combined and different works complementing each other, the works are perfected. This is why the craftsman who invented the shishhane rifle was more skillful than the one who invented the machine gun now. Whereas one who listens attentively with the ear of the heart to the supplication of The Big Shield , imagining himself to be in the presence of the Unlettered Prophet and hearing it from him, will understand and see that those thousand and one sacred truths, which comprise a thousand and one proofs and descriptions, and each of which is the conclusion of a chain of thought and a window opening onto Divine unity, were composed by one unlettered among an illiterate people in an illiterate environment, and a nation lacking a holy scripture in totally original, inventive fashion imitating no one, solving on his own through illumination the riddle of creation and talisman of the universe. This was not in imitative fashion like today with the help and supplications of thousands of other luminaries, but out of his boundless compassion and infinite clemency —due to which he invites to listen both the inhabitants of the heavens under the celestial dome and the vast congregation in the huge mosque of the universe— he seeks help, succor, mercy, and salvation for men, and he says:O You Who in the heavens is His grandeur;

O You Who in the earth are His signs;

O You Who in all things are His evidences;

O You Who in the ocean are His strange wonders;

O You Who originates creation then renews it;

O You Who in the mountains are His treasures;

O You Who creates everything in the best way;

O You to Whom return all matters;

O You Whose grace is apparent in all things;

O You Who displays His power through all creatures.

Glory be unto You! There is no god but You! Mercy! Mercy! Deliver us from Hell-fire!Here
"O One of Glory Whose magnificence is to be seen in the skies and heavenly bodies! O One of Perfection, the signs and evidences of Whose unity are to be observed in the earth and in all its beings! O Necessary Existent, proofs to Whose necessary existence are present in all things and all creatures! O All-Glorious One of Perfection, Who creates all the strange beings in the vast oceans! O Munificent Creator, Who creates the treasures stored up in the mountains to meet the needs of living beings! O Beauteous Bestower of Bounties, Who creates everything in the best way, administers them in the best way, and provides all the necessaries for each in the best way! O Omnipotent One, Sustainer of All Things, to Whom all things have recourse in all matters, for all needs, and on Whom all beings rely in all circumstances, and to Whom pertain all rights and dues, judge judgments rule! O Gracious and Knowing One, the clear traces of Whose favors, and the manifestations of Whose grace, and the subtle inscriptions of Whose arts, and the fine gifts of Whose mercy, are observed in all things! O All-Powerful and Wise One, Who made the universe an exhibition of marvels in order to display His power to his conscious creatures, and made all His artifacts heralds and proclamations announcing His perfections, such as His power, wisdom, and mercy! You are free of all impotence and fault; Other than You there is no god who might succor our plight! Mercy! Mercy! Save us from Hell-fire!"

"O God! In the heavens are no rotations or motions but through their order and wisdom they testify to your existence, making You known. On the earth are no changes and transformations, and no states or circumstances, but through their order and regularity they make You known together with Your unity and dominicality. In the seas is no creature, nor even a drop of water, but through its wisdom it points to Your existence and testifies to Your dominicality. In the mountains are no minerals, chemicals, or rocks, stored up for living beings, but through their uses and benefits they testify to Your dominicality and existence. In the heart is no thought inspired from the Unseen but it points to Your existence and testifies to Your unity. On the trees are no leaves but through their order and wisdom they recognize You, that is, they proclaim that they are the works of Your art. In bodies there are no movements but they testify to Your dominicality. O my Creator! For the sake of Your power, which subjugates the heavens and the earth, subjugate to me those things that I wish!"

I see through the eyes of belief, the instruction and light of the Holy Book, the teachings of God’s Noble Messenger, and the indications of the Name of All-Wise, that in the heavens there are no rotations and motions but through their order and regularity they point to Your existence. There is no heavenly body but through its silently performing its duty and remaining in place without prop it testifies to Your dominicality and unity. There is no star but through its balanced creation, regular position, luminous smile, and the stamp of its similarity to the other stars, it indicates the majesty of Your Godhead and Your unity. There is not one of the twelve planets but through its wise motion, docile subjection, orderly duties, and significant satellites, it testifies to Your necessary existence and indicates the sovereignty of Your Majesty.

These wondrous stars, these strange suns and moons, are subjugated, set in order, and employed in Your dominions, in Your heavens, through Your command, power, and strength, and Your administration and direction. All those heavenly bodies glorify and exalt their single Creator, Who creates, spins, and administers them; through the tongue of disposition, they declare: "Glory be to God! God is Most Great!" Through all their glorifications, I too declare You holy.

The clouds, lightning, thunder, wind, and rain each testify on their own to Your necessary existence, so too as a whole, being one within the other and assisting each other in their duties, although they are by nature dissimilar and opposed to each other, they indicate most powerfully Your unity. They point too to the magnificence of Your dominicality, which makes the vast atmosphere into an exhibition of wonders, on some days filling and emptying it several times; and to the immensity and all-pervasiveness of Your power, which makes it resemble a slate which is written on then rubbed clean, and wrings it out like a sponge and waters the garden of the earth; and to your unbounded mercy and limitless rule, which under the veil of the atmosphere administer all the earth and all creatures. Moreover, the air is employed in duties so wise and the clouds and rain utilized in benefits so percipient that if it was not for a knowledge and wisdom that encompass all things, they could not be thus employed.

O You Who acts as He wishes!

O All-Powerful One of Glory!

The air, clouds, rain, and thunder and lightning in the atmosphere are subjugated and employed in Your dominions, through Your command and power and strength. These creatures, which by nature are so different to each other, sanctify their ruler and commander, who makes them submit instantaneously to his swift commands; they praise and extol His mercy.


"This is how we supplicate to God Allmighty Moon child

[Bimzoori]

I finally found the Hadeeth I was telling you about...:)

"No one makes a supplication without one of three things happening. Either it is answered right away, or it is stord up for him, or wrong actions are atoned for by it"


so, as I told you earlier, answering supplications can take either of the above forms, according to what Allah knows is best for us


:):)

[MoonChild]

Originally posted by Bimzoori

[b]"...or wrong actions are atoned for by it"
B]

? Meaning the you don't get what you want in order to balance having been bad? I do that sometimes as a mother :)
How would one know this is what is happening?