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Had elsaif
17-09-00, 11:57 PM
As I was browsing through the messages posted earlier, I came across one for Omanlover complaining about Zanzibarees and how they're being called so and not Omanis. My dear friend, If I'm to start talking in this subject I can write a book but let's be brief and VERY honest.
We have to deffrintiate 2 types of Zanzibarees, those who live in the villages, like Sharqiah for instence and those who live in Muscat. People in Sharqia , like most other Omanis tend to dress, speak, look and behave like real Omanis who never left to Africa.
Those on the other hand who live in Muscat and excuse me for being so direct are nothing but Zanzibarees. I'm not saying this in a negative way at all for no one in these days who hasn't mixed blood ( i have myself). These people first of all are not 100% Omanis. When their ancesstors travelled they intermarried with African ladies. This is a fact that no one can deny and perhaps that's why their decendents have mixed middle Eastern and African features and sometimes total African features depending on how much African blood is there. I have no objection about this and no one can oppose intermarriage between different races for it can have it's advantages. My point directly again is that the Zanzibarees in Muscat don't behave like Omanis. First, they have a community by themselves. In this community favour and bious in jobs exist strongle. But this happens with other communities like Balooshees or lawatias. Second, They don't speak Arabic which is a real shame. At home, they talk to their kids in either Swahili or English. They put their kids in private schools to strengthen their English ignoring Arabic. The result with no Arabic at school or at home, they end up with funny broken Arabic. You ask a zanzibaree woman who came from 16 years ago and she answers in a weak Arabic that she didn't learn the language because everywhere she speaks English even with Omanis and I had this situation where an Omani ( Zanzibaree ) call, her whatever kept answering me in English even though I replaied in Arabic. There's a difference between someone who doesn't know a language and someone who doesn't care about knowing it. Maybe to do with patriotism and which of the 2 counries they feel they really belong to. I'm not saying this about all Zanzibarees in Muscat. There're exceptions but not many.
Now, back to private scools and too much exposure to western idiologies. The result is in different behavior which is again not the case with all Zanzibarees but with the most. Teenage girls and their boyfriends in a bar at some hotel, girls dressed in the most indecent way in malls and finally women in PDO dancing with their husbands' English or Dutch bosses in parties. Are these Omani behaviours or African with an enfluence of western colony? Will a woman from Nizwa or Sur do that. They're many people from these regions in PDO. Go and see if there wifes do that.
You see my friend it's not a matter of a name called or skin colour, it's how much you're Omani inside you. Will that black man from Sur speak broken Arabic? If you want to melt and be excepted in a society, it's to change to fit. Otherwise you accept being different and accept people looking at you in that way. About descrimination in the government, I don't think this's true. Most of them have superior jobs in defence and military. And most of their women work and even run private business which is something I always admired.
I have nothing against these people and personally have many good friends from them. They're successful, highly educated and ambitious. But still more Zanzibarees than Omanis!

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lisanee sarimon la Aiba feehee....

2cool4u
18-09-00, 06:47 PM
how do you expect anyone to reply to such a long posting? ppl want something less detailed man. GET A LIFE

KASHESHE
18-09-00, 07:44 PM
DO YOU THINK WE ZANZIBARINS ARE NOT FROM ADAM AND HAWAA AS U ARE?

YOU! SOME OF OMANI PEOPLE YOU REMOVE PEOPLE FROM THEIR FAMILYS BECAUSE THEY ARE SPEAKING ANOTHER LANGUAGE? WHY WE DONT CALL YOU BRITONS, BRITISH OF AMERICA AS U ALSO SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE?

WE ARE ALL FROM ADAM AND ADAM FROM TURAAB

WE ARE FROM ADNAN OR KAHTAAN AS U ARE!

SOME PEOPLE THEY SAY THEY ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS. NO YOU LIE FOR YOUR SELF. (INNA AKRAMAKUM 3NDA LLAH ATQAAKUM)

DONT BE LIKE JEWS

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rial omani
19-09-00, 02:26 AM
have to agree with had alsaif, in that i dont believe our zanzibari brothers are trying hard enough to integrate and become part of the omani society (ofcourse, maybe we didnt give them the chance to do so).

and this applies to most of the minorities in oman. I think the oamni society being a tribal based society, helped in excluding and containing minorities from becoming fully integrated. If you notice most minorities inhabit certain geographical areas mostly in the capital area.

I think most of the responsibility falls on the us to allow minorities to integrate, but they (minorities) should try harder to integrate.

Brother kasheshe at least try to write some of your topics in a language that we can all understand.

HATE_QOOM_LOOT
19-09-00, 12:27 PM
ANY ONE WHO HAS THE RED OMANI PASSPORT IS OMANI WHEREVER HE CAME FROM OR WHATEVER IS ORIGINAL FROM.

I LOVE YOU ALL ( I AM NOT ZANZIBARI ) BUT ILOVE YOU MAN ESPECIALLY YOUR SECOND LANGUAGE ( MAMBO ), ALSO I LOVE OTHER TRIBES ALL OF YOU BALUSHI ( CHOTORI ), LAWATI( KEYE) , JABALI ( EMBERI BEKHERET ), AJMI ( KHEER KHOBEN ).
ALL THAT MEAN ( HOW ARE YOU )

BEST WESHES TO ALL MY BROTHERS IN THIS COUNTRY,,,(LOVE YOU ALL ).

BEST WISHES

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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

Had elsaif
20-09-00, 07:02 PM
Mr kashosh,
I never said I'm better than anybody. I'm not a 100% Omani myself in blood but I act like an Omani. I'm more proud of my Arabic than my Sawahili. You're not. That's why you keep writing in it. It's good that I made you write in English. Try to write in Arabic next time. Start working on it!!

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lisanee sarimon la Aiba feehee....

sukar zyadah
22-09-00, 01:38 AM
we are all from the same country, we love the same country and we breathe the same country, beleive in our unity people.

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ITS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE!!

Omanlover
03-10-00, 09:38 AM
HAdi elseif
First of all i would like to aplogize for the mistake which i made. I didn't mean to say that there is a discrimination in the government no there is not.
Secod thing i would like to remind u or inform u that the original oman traditonal is still done much better in East Africa than here in Oman. There are still pure Omanis overthere and still can not speak swahili and are ignored by the country by not giving them the omani citizen. A lot of them they want to come back home (oman) at least to see their families but..... u know what i mean.
Also you are talking about Omanis ZNZIBARIS who are living in Muscat. How can they have Omani citizenship if they r zanzibaris? Most of these people are Highly educated although they spend their own money for education and not being educated by the governmante and they are very tough in work they are briliants not as those (few) omanis whom were born here in oman........In most huge companies one of them is a leader. People should apreciate of what they are doing.
Do not talk about PDO women dancing with western.......u r embarasing them (INA BAADHA DHAN ITHM) have u got a proof? i doubt it. Sorry for long writing but i think u r wrong about some points u mentioned.

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I ALWAYS SAY WATCH YOUR FEET WHEN YOU WALK

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