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IntI
28-07-08, 02:44 PM
I thought of warning u,2morrow is one of these known days of evil oman(Ayam Nahsat as mention in Quran). I know there's some who dont believe in such thing,but it is mentioned in qura n (http://quran.muslim-web.com/sura.htm?aya=041016) :{So We sent upon them furious wind in days of evil omen (for them) that We might give them a taste of disgracing torment in this present worldly life, but surely the torment of the Hereafter will be more disgracing, and they will never be helped.}41:16


Other dayz also: 22nd Muharam,10th Safar,4th Rabee Al Awal, 28th Rabee Al Thani,28th Jumad Al Awal,12th Jumad Al Thani, 26th Rajeb,12th Shaban,24th Ramadhan,2nd Shawal,28th Dhi El Qeaada & 8th Dhi El Heja.

Superbia
28-07-08, 02:47 PM
Even if it's mentioned in the Qura'an, it still appears as poppycock to me.

jack
28-07-08, 03:21 PM
Should we wear necklace made of garlic or something to keep these evils away?

What can we do to protect ourselves on these days?

IceTea
28-07-08, 03:36 PM
Other dayz also: 22nd Muharam,10th Safar,4th Rabee Al Awal, 28th Rabee Al Thani,28th Jumad Al Awal,12th Jumad Al Thani, 26th Rajeb,12th Shaban,24th Ramadhan,2nd Shawal,28th Dhi El Qeaada & 8th Dhi El Heja.

All days are good, if something evil happened in a day then it is not because of that specific day but beacuse it is meant to happen.

Persian Queen
28-07-08, 03:38 PM
you know what you remind me of my grandmas they always choose days when any one wants to get married stufss like that ... i don't understand them really i just walk away and do anything i have to do :)

Threadlike
28-07-08, 03:38 PM
Um...Such listing of days is not present in the Qura'n at any point.
The verse you provided does not refer to a particular set of days, not to mention that Islam forbids pessimism of any kind in several verses of the Qura'n.

IceTea
28-07-08, 03:42 PM
you know what you remind me of my grandmas they always choose days when any one wants to get married stufss like that ... i don't understand them really i just walk away and do anything i have to do :)

Will you marry Mohammed on 22nd of Muharam? :)

Persian Queen
28-07-08, 03:51 PM
Will you marry Mohammed on 22nd of Muharam? :)

woohoo im not beleiver ins uch stuffs nahas and etc .. yes i willl why not.

even under a tree i will marry mohmed :shy:

Miss G
28-07-08, 04:59 PM
*does the "go-away-evil-spirits" dance*

This is the first time in my entire life of being a muslim, & being surrounded by muslims, have I ever heard of these "days of evil omen" (though I never knew that omens could be anything other than evil :)). I suggest you wake up tomorrow, pray as you should, pray abit more, ask Allah to be with you, & just go on with your day like you would any other day.

Islam is a religion of enlightenment & revelation, not of ignorance & petty superstitions. Get your facts straight.

BrAiKi
28-07-08, 05:09 PM
Okay, the verses are there, where does it say that its THOSE specific days?
Or is it another scholar's hobalalalolo?

Jeff
28-07-08, 05:17 PM
I'm no Quran scholar but I'm a good reader of texts.

To my inexperienced eye, it looks like those verses are just saying:

"There will be some bad times that I will send as a punishment to people to remind them of the punishment in the hereafter, compared to which they are mild. Since these days are 'significant' and point beyond themselves to the ultimate punishment, I call them 'days of evil omen'."

But I could be wrong. I don't think "evil omen" can be a sorcery kind of term, can it? And I don't see any reason why it has to be...

But I guess those who have a really good dictionary of classical Arabic can look that word up and see what the various definitions are.

Is there such a thing as a concordance of the Quran and/or of Classical Arabic?

mimosa
28-07-08, 06:20 PM
This is typical of the silly superstitions that get added on to the essence of the Faith.

The verse explains how in past times, as with the city of Thalmud, people were sent a warning in this life through natural events, to give them a taste as to what would follow in the next world if they continued in their arrogant ways. This is a lesson for all, no doubt.

But does it say in the Qur'An that these worldly warnings will be sent to everyone, and on all of those specific dates (where the hell do they come from?), and forever?

No! It doesn't! This is a silly, superstitious fabrication....bid3a!!!

IntI
29-07-08, 02:51 PM
Did u guys read tafseer of this aya?!

IntI
29-07-08, 02:54 PM
This is typical of the silly superstitions that get added on to the essence of the Faith.

The verse explains how in past times, as with the city of Thalmud, people were sent a warning in this life through natural events, to give them a taste as to what would follow in the next world if they continued in their arrogant ways. This is a lesson for all, no doubt.

But does it say in the Qur'An that these worldly warnings will be sent to everyone, and on all of those specific dates (where the hell do they come from?), and forever?

No! It doesn't! This is a silly, superstitious fabrication....bid3a!!!

this isnt bedaa!!! dnt say smthing if u r nt sure abt!!!

mimosa
29-07-08, 03:03 PM
Sorry if it sounds harsh, I didn't mean to be rude to you. But yes, I'm quite sure about it!

IntI
29-07-08, 03:07 PM
In these days u better nt get married nor start any project.It doesnt say something bad will happened to u on these days. I mean,I ddnt have this fear that something bad will happen to me.I juz have v. normal day.xcept I saw this horrible accident next to my office.but,that nothing to do wid me!

IceTea
29-07-08, 03:12 PM
Myths among the common folk about superstitions (http://islamqa.com/en/ref/97221/omen%20day)


It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Tiyarah (superstitious belief in omens) is shirk.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1614), Abu Dawood (3910), Ibn Majaah (3538); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The word tiyarah is derived from the word tatayyur, which refers to superstition about something that is seen or heard; or it was said that it refers to superstition about anything ,whether it is something that is seen or heard, or a time or place. This is more comprehensive as it includes things that are not seen or heard, such as superstition about certain times.

The basic meaning of tatayyur is pessimism but reference is made to birds (tayr) because most of the superstitions held by the Arabs have to do with birds, so it was connected to them. But the general definition is superstition based on something that is seen, heard or known.

The Arabs used to regard certain birds, times and persons as unlucky, and this is shirk as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said

IntI
29-07-08, 03:36 PM
Sorry if it sounds harsh, I didn't mean to be rude to you. But yes, I'm quite sure about it!

Dont be! It wasnt harsh,but as I said dnt say smthing u r nt sure abt! :)

Marvel
29-07-08, 03:40 PM
yeah i remember things like these...when millennium came many ppl somewhere in this world were acting weird when they say it's the end of the world and some of them killed them self well alhamdoullah god gave us brains to think with :)

IntI
29-07-08, 03:45 PM
More over u can read tafseer of this aya (http://quran.muslim-web.com/sura.htm?aya=054019)
{إِنَّا أَرْسَلْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ رِيحًا صَرْصَرًا فِي يَوْمِ نَحْسٍ مُّسْتَمِرّ }
{ Verily, We sent against them a furious wind of harsh voice on a day of evil omen and continuous calamity. }54:19

IntI
29-07-08, 03:47 PM
yeah i remember things like these...when millennium came many ppl somewhere in this world were acting weird when they say it's the end of the world and some of them killed them self well alhamdoullah god gave us brains to think with :)

not related at all!!! al hamdulilah for the blessing of mind indeed :)

Marvel
29-07-08, 04:03 PM
not related at all!!! al hamdulilah for the blessing of mind indeed :)

so what's the related things between the verses and the date or day you gave ?

amo_l_oman
29-07-08, 06:54 PM
dnt say smthing u r nt sure abt! :)

Exactly
May we know from where you gather that those verses are related to those specific days please ?
Am sorry I can't read Arabic but I've searched in the English translation of the Tafsir Ibn Kathir and also in the Persian Tafsir but nothing of what you say is mentioned

Arabian Prince
30-07-08, 09:10 AM
Funny yet interesting.

I've never come across such 'dates' or 'days' before. The existence of a couple of verses in the Holy Quran on evil omens as you put it, should not imply that one must be pessimistic or careful on particular dates.
That's my say about it.

I think this is another perfect case of "it's all in the head". :)