Who's your favorite political person and why? :p

None. Because they all don't make sense to me.

John Stewart, Stephan Colbert & Demetri Martin.

John Stewart, Stephan Colbert & Demetri Martin.

Why :cute:?

John F. Kennedy because he had this fire for the space program, wanting to resolve the Civil Rights to the African Americans in the South, his infamous quote: "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what can you do for your country", the establishment of the Peace Corps, having an idealism for his country: he evoked a sense of security and a spirit of idealism which spoke to the younger Americans....he left a legacy of hope despite his assassination.

can i say sheikh zayed?

otherwise i hate all politicians they are all bloody liers

Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah. Hezbollah. Leader

Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan
Troubled by the suffering of Iraqi civilians. Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan took the lead in calling for lifting sanctions on Iraq imposed by the United Nations in the aftermath of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990, despite Kuwaiti displeasure and opposition.
Sheikh Zayed built up institutions such as hospitals, schools and universities and made it possible for UAE citizens to enjoy free access to them. He also decreed that the State would undertake the cost of foreign health care for those families unable to afford it. Other charitable acts included adopting hundreds of orphans and building several hospitals abroad in Europe, Asia, and Africa.

Gamal Abdel Nasser
He is well-known for his nationalist policies and version of pan-Arabism, also referred to as Nasserism, which won a great following in the Arab World during the 1950s and 1960s.

John F. Kennedy

The Prophet Mohammed :PBUH:. He was a just, honest leader. He connected politics with religion and humanity. With him, politics was not a game in the expense of human beings.

Living: Nelson Mandela, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi.

Historic: Abraham Lincoln, Susan B. Anthony, Harvey Milk.

Each has or had uncompromising dedication to their ideals, to justice, and to, in the immortal phrase of the U.S. Declaration of the Independence, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

I would have to say the Prophet :PBUH:. It's because of his leadership.

Sultan Qaboos bin Said.

Why? Because he's extremely wise & generous. He has never let his people down for the past 38 years ...

Sultan Qaboos bin Said.

Why? Because he's extremely wise & generous. He has never let his people down for the past 38 years ...

It's actually 37 years and 6 months. :p

1. Prophet Mohammed. His ways of negotiation and his tolerance at right place on the right time.

2. Omar Ibn al Khattab. He was just, introduced lots of things to the Islamic state. Strict when it came to the law even to his close ones.

3. Mohammed Al Matkum, just visit dubai and you will know why I picked him!

I will exclude monarchs and religious authorities…

Nelson Mandela is my favorite politician…

He has the might of forgiveness and selflessness… upon his election as the president of South Africa, he appointed the person who put him in jail, the ex-president Frederik de Klerk as a vice president for nothing but to keep the unity of his country and to bring the two parties, representing the two major races, together under the flag of South Africa.

He could have played the filthy politics and alleged whatever to de Klerk or at least isolate him from any significance in the country…

It takes a lot to deny yourself and think for the sake of the masses…Mr. Mandela sure has that virtue of self-denial which is rarely seen on any politician today!

I have to agree with those who cited Nelson Mandela.

I disagree with much of his politics, but he is certainly a great man.

He showed generosity and wisdom as he brought his people to freedom, especially in knowing that he was NOT the Indispensable Ruler and RETIRING.

This pattern among democratic leaders was begun by George Washington, my candidate for greatest American politicians. He refused to be made King or Leader-for-Life and to everyone's astonishment, after two terms as President, said "that's enough" and retired from public life.

Of course my candidate for greatest leader on the world stage today is my own present President, George W. Bush, who has taken immense pressure and lived with oceans of detestation and not budged an inch from what he thought was right...and he nearly always WAS right. I am proud to have voted for him twice.

And I agree that the wisest and noblest leader in the Middle East is almost certanly the Sultan of Oman, a quiet King of a quiet country. But the small and the quiet may be greater than the huge and the loud!

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden.
The man who defeat a superpower.
In the 1980s in Afghanistan he used some of his own fortune to drive out the Soviet superpower.

Now his enemy is the superpower the US which, despite all its resources, continues to be out-witted.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden.
The man who defeat a superpower.
In the 1980s in Afghanistan he used some of his own fortune to drive out the Soviet superpower.

Now his enemy is the superpower the US which, despite all its resources, continues to be out-witted.
Nice.
I'm sure a man who orchestrated the murder of several hundreds of unarmed Muslims along with many other unarmed non-Muslims is deserving to be your favorite political figure. Perhaps it's a secret fetish or something...

None, they are all liars.

Nice.
I'm sure a man who orchestrated the murder of several hundreds of unarmed Muslims along with many other unarmed non-Muslims is deserving to be your favorite political figure. Perhaps it's a secret fetish or something...
i wonder if he would be willing to live under his rule.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden.
The man who defeat a superpower.
In the 1980s in Afghanistan he used some of his own fortune to drive out the Soviet superpower.

Now his enemy is the superpower the US which, despite all its resources, continues to be out-witted.

Would you mind to live under his rule ?

King Faisal of Saudi Arabia

i wonder if he would be willing to live under his rule.
Would you mind to live under his rule ?

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden is freedom fighter; someone who has forsaken wealth and power to fight in freedom cause and speak out against oppressors.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden has brought fresh air to former Soviet Union and east Europe.

I believe Sheikh Osama bin Laden is a freedom fighter, fighting against the corrupt Saudi regime. His current war with the United States is a strategic move, the first step in overthrowing the Saudi government.

The truth is much simpler, and much more discouraging. The US is not the "international policeman", as so many of its citizens are mistakenly taught. It is the International Bully.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden is freedom fighter; someone who has forsaken wealth and power to fight in freedom cause and speak out against oppressors.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden has brought fresh air to former Soviet Union and east Europe.

I believe Sheikh Osama bin Laden is a freedom fighter, fighting against the corrupt Saudi regime. His current war with the United States is a strategic move, the first step in overthrowing the Saudi government.

The truth is much simpler, and much more discouraging. The US is not the "international policeman", as so many of its citizens are mistakenly taught. It is the International Bully.
As expected you didn't answer their easy 'Yes/No' questions with a yes or a no.

So for the sake of clarity, I'll repeat the questions in bold:
Will you mind living under the rule of Osama Bin Laden?
Do you have a problem with Osama Bin Laden killing several hundred Muslims and thousands of other non-Muslims in 9/11?

As expected you didn't answer their easy 'Yes/No' questions with a yes or a no.

So for the sake of clarity, I'll repeat the questions in bold:
Will you mind living under the rule of Osama Bin Laden?
Do you have a problem with Osama Bin Laden killing several hundred Muslims and thousands of other non-Muslims in 9/11?

Sheikh Osama bin Laden has successfully abused Islam to achieve his own, nationalistic goals. While I support his goals, I disagree with the means.

Sheikh Osama bin Laden has successfully abused Islam to achieve his own, nationalistic goals. While I support his goals, I disagree with the means.

I don't want your opinions of whether Bin Laden 'abused' Islam or not or whether you agree with the means or not.
Simply answer these two questions with a yes or a no:
Will you mind living under the rule of Osama Bin Laden?
Do you have a problem with Osama Bin Laden killing several hundred Muslims and thousands of other non-Muslims in 9/11?

I don't want your opinions of whether Bin Laden 'abused' Islam or not or whether you agree with the means or not.
Simply answer these two questions with a yes or a no:


Do I have right to reply they way I feel fit.

If I exclude royals and religious leaders, then non .. I just dont trust politicians. There a couple who made great acheivement, but I also beleive they had other agendas in mind.

Do I have right to reply they way I feel fit.
No.
It's not me who put the rules.
The English people decided that you reply to a Yes/No question with either a Yes or a No.
That IS quite simple...I can't see if you're such a strong supporter of Osama Bin Laden why can't you simply reply to the two questions presented earlier which up to now you have never replied to with a Yes or No.
Will you mind living under the rule of Osama Bin Laden?
Do you have a problem with Osama Bin Laden killing several hundred Muslims and thousands of other non-Muslims in 9/11?

No.
It's not me who put the rules.
The English people decided that you reply to a Yes/No question with either a Yes or a No.
That IS quite simple...I can't see if you're such a strong supporter of Osama Bin Laden why can't you simply reply to the two questions presented earlier which up to now you have never replied to with a Yes or No.


Not in my name.
Please provide rule number.

Oh well I naturally would but I'm sure the word 'grammar' doesn't sound familiar to you in any way. In any case,Here (http://www.eslgold.com/grammar/yes_no_questions.html), you can read about Yes/No questions and hopefully what I'm saying will finally compute.

If you can't answer the questions (or don't have the courage to answer them at all), then just say so.

Sheikh Osama bin Laden has successfully abused Islam to achieve his own, nationalistic goals. While I support his goals, I disagree with the means.
And that says it all for millions and millions of muslims.

Because the goal is much more important than the means.

And that says it all for millions and millions of muslims.

Because the goal is much more important than the means.

Wow. I bet you met millions and millions of Muslims and found that out, ha? Otherwise, how else could you have arrived to that genius conclusion of yours!

Oh well I naturally would but I'm sure the word 'grammar' doesn't sound familiar to you in any way. In any case,Here (http://www.eslgold.com/grammar/yes_no_questions.html), you can read about Yes/No questions and hopefully what I'm saying will finally compute.

If you can't answer the questions (or don't have the courage to answer them at all), then just say so.

By the way I am Arab.

No/Yes = Pass

Wow. I bet you met millions and millions of Muslims and found that out, ha? Otherwise, how else could you have arrived to that genius conclusion of yours!Rather simple really. It doesn't take a genious :p

His "goals" being in line with the Quranic message is why so many muslims support him.

Rather simple really. It doesn't take a genious :p

His "goals" being in line with the Quranic message is why so many muslims support him.

I can agree with u.
Sheikh Osama Bin Laden is freedom fighter; someone who has forsaken wealth and power to fight in freedom cause and speak out against oppressors.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden has brought fresh air to former Soviet Union and east Europe.

Rather simple really. It doesn't take a genious :p

His "goals" being in line with the Quranic message is why so many muslims support him.
You know I read the Qura'n.
Read its interpretations.
Even read quite a number of hadith.
There's nothing there about blowing up planes into buildings and killing people (Muslims included) who did not fight you. I'd like to meet the 'so many' Muslims you've met. HairlyMan here is the first actual Muslim I've met who supports Bin Laden's goals or means.

HairlyMan,
Kindly cut the shit.
If there is a 'freedom fighter' who you think is allowed to kill Muslims and unarmed people in his 'quest' for freedom and using Islam to justify it then quite frankly: you're either a criminal or a moron.

Come on thready.. you and I know there's many more from where Hairlyman came from. ;)

Many times I'd have blamed a lack of education.. but it's not always the case.

Come on thready.. you and I know there's many more from where Hairlyman came from. ;)

Many times I'd have blamed a lack of education.. but it's not always the case.

Why would I lie to you?
This IS the first Muslim I've met in my entire life who has said that.
Whether you believe it or not is obviously up to you. I was just stating a fact.

You know I read the Qura'n.
Read its interpretations.
Even read quite a number of hadith.
There's nothing there about blowing up planes into buildings and killing people (Muslims included) who did not fight you. I'd like to meet the 'so many' Muslims you've met. HairlyMan here is the first actual Muslim I've met who supports Bin Laden's goals or means.

HairlyMan,
Kindly cut the shit.
If there is a 'freedom fighter' who you think is allowed to kill Muslims and unarmed people in his 'quest' for freedom and using Islam to justify it then quite frankly: you're either a criminal or a moron.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden's cause is essentially nationalistic. He wants the removal of the corrupt government. He is not alone. Saudi dissident groups exist throughout the world, especially in large cities such as London. His main concern is for his country and his people.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden first needs to oust the US troops before he can overthrow the government. He has experience in fighting huge countries. The success of the mujahedeen's conflict with the USSR has shown him that he can win.

Why would I lie to you?
This IS the first Muslim I've met in my entire life who has said that.
Whether you believe it or not is obviously up to you. I was just stating a fact.
The thing is.. people usually like what Osama promises/ed to do to the rest of the west.. but they don't want to be ruled by him. :hmm:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/08/poll.binladen/index.html

Of course, what concerns us, as in us in the west.. is what kind of support a warlord like that gets from the muslims, all over the world. Often finding arab muslims agreeing and supporting his claims of jihad, and well those who sign up to his forces..

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden's cause is essentially nationalistic. He wants the removal of the corrupt government. He is not alone. Saudi dissident groups exist throughout the world, especially in large cities such as London. His main concern is for his country and his people.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden first needs to oust the US troops before he can overthrow the government. He has experience in fighting huge countries. The success of the mujahedeen's conflict with the USSR has shown him that he can win.
Don't be silly.

If the USSR really wanted afghanistan, they'd have nuked the afghanis out. It was just not worth the fight. Superpowers are super because they are clever.. and they pick their fights carefully.

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden first needs to oust the US troops before he can overthrow the government. He has experience in fighting huge countries. The success of the mujahedeen's conflict with the USSR has shown him that he can win.

Pleaaaaaaaase .. so to win his cause he needs to fight another country as an experiement?!!!!!!
What happened to not fight except those who fight you, what happened to not cut a tree, or harm a woman, a child or an eldery man???
or he picks and chooses in Islam what he likes and fits his hidden motives?

The thing is.. people usually like what Osama promises/ed to do to the rest of the west.. but they don't want to be ruled by him. :hmm:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/08/poll.binladen/index.html

Of course, what concerns us, as in us in the west.. is what kind of support a warlord like that gets from the muslims, all over the world. Often finding arab muslims agreeing and supporting his claims of jihad, and well those who sign up to his forces..

Sheikh Osama bin Laden is certainly not the only terrorist around. In fact he would be a very minor terrorist compared with the US or Israeli military. Or for that matter, the Iraqi or Indonesian military. Or the Columbian, Indian armies... the list goes on and on. Bottom line, governments like to kill innocent people. Especially the US. While the US has (more than) it fair share of blood on it's hands, it constantly condemns other countries/people for doing things that are miniscule compared to it's own actions. The US and UK are directly responsible for 2 million civilian deaths in Iraq over the past 10 years. That includes 500,000 children. The US had no qualms about dropping bombs on civilians in Serbia during the balkan war. The US has no problem with Israel using US provided weapons to destroy palestinian neighbourhoods. The US has no problems providing support and weapons to the Columbian government which is well known for murdering its own populace. Or over a decade ago, providing Iraq with biological weapons (that it later condemned...) that Saddam Hussein used against the Kurds. Osama Bin Laden is nothing but a paltry scapegoat used to attract the attention of slack-jawed americans that know nothing of their governments

Pleaaaaaaaase .. so to win his cause he needs to fight another country as an experiement?!!!!!!
What happened to not fight except those who fight you, what happened to not cut a tree, or harm a woman, a child or an eldery man???
or he picks and chooses in Islam what he likes and fits his hidden motives?
You know what they say AP..

You can lead a horse to water.. but you can't make him drink.

Sheikh Osama bin Laden is certainly not the only terrorist around. In fact he would be a very minor terrorist compared with the US or Israeli military. Or for that matter, the Iraqi or Indonesian military. Or the Columbian, Indian armies... the list goes on and on. Bottom line, governments like to kill innocent people. Especially the US. While the US has (more than) it fair share of blood on it's hands, it constantly condemns other countries/people for doing things that are miniscule compared to it's own actions. The US and UK are directly responsible for 2 million civilian deaths in Iraq over the past 10 years. That includes 500,000 children. The US had no qualms about dropping bombs on civilians in Serbia during the balkan war. The US has no problem with Israel using US provided weapons to destroy palestinian neighbourhoods. The US has no problems providing support and weapons to the Columbian government which is well known for murdering its own populace. Or over a decade ago, providing Iraq with biological weapons (that it later condemned...) that Saddam Hussein used against the Kurds. Osama Bin Laden is nothing but a paltry scapegoat used to attract the attention of slack-jawed americans that know nothing of their governments
Wow.

He went from being a hero freedom fighting Sheik to a paltry scapegoat in 15 minutes flat.

Wow.

He went from being a hero freedom fighting Sheik to a paltry scapegoat in 15 minutes flat.

The US economy is likely to have ground to a halt during the spring and its growth is set to stay enfeebled for an extended two-year run

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article4069224.ece

Sheikh Osama Bin Laden has won on economy.

Ah. He's back to being a Sheik superhero again.

I pray for Osama bin Laden every night with my whole family.

I think he has a noble character which he has put at the service of an evil cause using evil means.

Which is just one more tragedy in the whole picture...

Osamah?
-He is not a sheikh, neither by scholarly knowledge nor by social chiefdom
-He is not a politician


So guys this is all off topic!

Please this is not about OBN. If you guys want to discuss about him been freedom fighter or terrorist open a new thread, don't ruin this.


I say our prophet Mohammed :PBUH: . Fpr these reasons:

- Merged politics and religion in a very beautiful way. Made politics looks easy directed by religion and made religion an effective way to be a very successful political leader.

- Didn't use the power he got in wrong ways but the otherwise. More powerful Islam was, more merciful it became.

- Never used politics to acheive personal interests unlike meanwhile politicians.

- Believed in his people and trusted them even in very critical moments.


There are manythings really but I just don't know how to put them in points.. But he's the best politician and individual ever walked on earth.

H.H. Shiekh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al-Maktoom.

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal.

Rafeeq Al-Hariri

:cute:

Nelson Mandela

Favorite Politician? Mmm Scarecrow..Errr sorry i meant Waleed Junblat :hyper:!

H.H. Shiekh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al-Maktoom.

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal.

Rafeeq Al-Hariri

:cute:

Great choices. :dev: