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The ruler of Abu Dhabi raised by two-thirds the amount that United Arab Emirates nationals in the emirate can borrow free of interest to finance buying or building their homes, to 2 million dirhams ($544,700).

http://in.reuters.com/article/asiaCompanyAndMarkets/idINL2813320820080528
http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Economy/10212422.html

I don’t think any elected leader will provides to it is citizen.
Government pays me royalty.
When I have all freedom except of insulting Sheikh.
What the hell is democracy?

Bravo Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahayan you are undisputed leader for life.

My government recently renegotiated the loans on houses with the banks, if that's your main concern in life
Not important whether is democratic elected or not, it has to be a good leader with a wide vision
You might ask your granny how life was before 1970 in Oman
Or read this book (http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/?product_id=1265): you can find it in Turtles
It will help you to learn the history of your country, which many here in Sabla are unaware of

Developing countries don't need democracy. They need strong and dedicated dictatorship. Compare Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, with democratic countries in Asia - you get straight answer.

Once the country has developed, then its acceptable to move into democracy.

I don’t think any elected leader will provides to it is citizen.
Government pays me royalty.
When I have all freedom except of insulting Sheikh.
What the hell is democracy?

Bravo Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahayan you are undisputed leader for life.

Price for keeping your mouth shut.
But I must appreciate and praise the effort of the ruler.
In many so called democratic countries, you can not open your mouth and can’t write what you are thinking.
Best example at the moment, BANGLADESH.

I thought charging interest was illegal in Islam?

If this is true, then why has the sheikh set a cap?

^ the same case with smoking and drinking alcohol, they're all forbidden in Islam.
Yet people (even locals of that country) smoke and drink.
Religion is out of this case.
Charging interests is applied everywhere, no bank can survive without it (lol)
Going back to the topic, it's an interesting move indeed. But, judging on Democracy and elections based on what one good (yet not elected) leader is not fair at all :no:.
Islamically speaking, the leader must be elected too! :XD:

I wouldn't be surprised if the sheikh of Abu Dhabi is doing a great job. And the ruler of Abu Dhabi is also the ruler of the UAE, isn't that right?

But it's a small country with great natural wealth...that helps.

And it applies only to those living in Abu Dhabi.

There are few countries with such a small population and such huge wealth.

Developing countries don't need democracy. They need strong and dedicated dictatorship. Compare Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, with democratic countries in Asia - you get straight answer.

Once the country has developed, then its acceptable to move into democracy.

Interesting...but would the dictator who has the taste of ultimate power be ready to relinquish his ruling in favor of a democratic govt/society???

^ the same case with smoking and drinking alcohol, they're all forbidden in Islam.
Yet people (even locals of that country) smoke and drink.
Religion is out of this case.
Charging interests is applied everywhere, no bank can survive without it (lol)
Going back to the topic, it's an interesting move indeed. But, judging on Democracy and elections based on what one good (yet not elected) leader is not fair at all :no:.
Islamically speaking, the leader must be elected too! :XD:

Islamically speaking there was never such thing as the exact wording of 'election' in the choice of the ruler. No specific or spot-on method of choosing the ruler, neither did the prophet PBUH leave any particular one after him to rule. It's simply a matter of Shura...And that itself is another huge matter in Islam.

The Grand Mufti of Egypt from from 1986 to 1996, Sheikh Mohammed Tantawi has made a fatwa stating that fixed interests from banks are halal. The same I think, was stated by the current Grand Mufti of Egypt, Sheikh Ali Gomaa. It should be noted, however, that those two sheikhs teach/have taught at Al Azhar University, one of the most leading Sunna organizations in existence.

Interesting...but would the dictator who has the taste of ultimate power be ready to relinquish his ruling in favor of a democratic govt/society???

Democratic society can't guarantee good life either .

I don’t think any elected leader will provides to it is citizen.
Government pays me royalty.
When I have all freedom except of insulting Sheikh.
What the hell is democracy?

Bravo Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahayan you are undisputed leader for life.

That's because in the rest of the world, people actually have to earn their living, because money does not flow out of the ground.

You are aware of that right?

Islamically speaking there was never such thing as the exact wording of 'election' in the choice of the ruler. No specific or spot-on method of choosing the ruler, neither did the prophet PBUH leave any particular one after him to rule. It's simply a matter of Shura...And that itself is another huge matter in Islam.


Exactly my thought on this issue .. it doesnt matter how the ruler is there, it matters if he is just and considerate.

The Grand Mufti of Egypt from from 1986 to 1996, Sheikh Mohammed Tantawi has made a fatwa stating that fixed interests from banks are halal. The same I think, was stated by the current Grand Mufti of Egypt, Sheikh Ali Gomaa. It should be noted, however, that those two sheikhs teach/have taught at Al Azhar University, one of the most leading Sunna organizations in existence.

This is another issue all togther .. there was a great debate against this and most scholars (sunnis, Ibadhis and Shia) consider interest as ribaa.

Exactly my thought on this issue .. it doesnt matter how the ruler is there, it matters if he is just and considerate.

Contradiction with the Western thoughts of Democracy.

It doesn’t matter how the ruler come to power, he is to remain obedient and devoted to American interest.

Though Musharaf having all the qualities couldn’t save him.

UAE like Oman has democracy. The idiots in West that whine do so because they expect the same version of democracy that they find in their country.

Maybe the West thinks UAE not a democracy just because.... nobody can insult Emirati leaders ?

Why the hell will I want to insult someone? You have the right means and places to "criticize" leaders in most GCC countries, but why would allowing people to insult leaders for no reason will mean democracy?

Some people misconstrue criticism as insults.

^True, and some people construe childish and useless insults as democracy :)

And some people seem to think Democracy means all types of social and culturals things beyond a political system of goverment where legislators and executives are made up of representatives elected by their citizen constituents.

OK J4T, I like your avatar, so whatever you say :p