I have noticed is over and over. Men in our societies getting victimized. We see it all over the place all the time. I know this woman who drives a BM, her husband a Corolla, when I asked her, she says, its my own money, he should take care of me, the kids and the house, (and thats why the poor guy drives a Corolla)

Our women will have designer clothes, 400 Rial Abayya, while we end up with only 1, 7 Rial white dishdasha to be washed every night.

The other day I was at a bank, only two ppl in front of me, then one at time I see these women flocking in, the teller totally ignoring me and started serving them. When my turn arrived it was too late to make an urgent funds transfer, I went to my car only to find a parking ticket.

Now the big one, why is it when we get a second wife its our fault. Why cant the society blame the second wife, bec without her, marriage would never take place.

Women have been smart all these years in victimizing us and act innocent, oppressed, and deprived.

My message to all men out there, start fighting back and take your rights.

Our women will have designer clothes, 400 Rial Abayya, while we end up with only 1, 7 Rial white dishdasha to be washed every night.
Don't you think your driving things out of proportion :p come on ya3ni one 7 rial dishdasha a bit to dramatic don't you think. Its actually funny cause its us women complaining about men all the time not the other way round, however you are right to a certain point their are women like that but i don't think you should generalize. :D

Aww Markov! ;p Lol

Bad Day?

Anyways. The Way I see it is that both should do their share of the work and help eachother out. I don't think it's right that one person does more then the other.. I mean Yeah A man should help and provide for his family.. But if his Woman loved em enough she'd help em out as well and Do her share ;)

And Another thing.. I hate guys who talk to much but no action..
Iono if any of u guys have seen any.. But the kind that goes. I hate when my woman does this and this and this.. and than you think his ***** is gonna do something about it
But the moment she comes he doesnt say a word and SITS THERE ALL DEPRESSED

It gets me thinking Like Duuuuuuuudes.. If U want change Make it happen already sheesh ;p

It's not that hard really.. Juss speak up ;)

But come on.. There's those times where the men have it commin for em' ;p

It's because God created equality among the genders.. some more equal than others

It's his fault for being pussywhipped.

lol, a sexist thread!

We shall marry the ladies and live happily ever after in harmony!

haha poor markov. what to do eh. he's jealous of a fancy abaya now.

we r not jealouse...

but u woman have rights and it fought for it

all over the world and been gives to u..

but for that us men
or rights been sold
women took them..

y?

because women is innocent
(( ladies first))
man i hate these two words..

maybe to c their backs

We see it all over the place all the time. I know this woman who drives a BM, her husband a Corolla, when I asked her, she says, its my own money, he should take care of me, the kids and the house, (and thats why the poor guy drives a Corolla).

She drives a bowel movement? Just kidding.

Yes, there are women who are taking the best of both worlds.


Women have been smart all these years in victimizing us and act innocent, oppressed, and deprived.

My message to all men out there, start fighting back and take your rights.

The Man has gotta be the Boss.

nice thread......but hmm u cant generalize because the opposite is also true any way
what i realy realy hate is u standing in a Q for a long time....n then suddenly a lady comes n simply goes !!! without asking....or acting and pretending that she is on hurry .....very very few r polite enough to ask !!!! but i learnt to ignore them......let them wait:D

I think Markov has a point as I've witnessed the same thing, but I also witnessed cases where it's the other way around and it's the woman who barely has anything. I think it all depends on how much the man wants to 'spoil' his woman, which I am sort of against, I believe that people should work for what they want so if she's working then she can spoil herself as much as she wants to but for the man to deprive himself from everything just for the sake of keeping his woman happy, well that's a little too much. As I always say..I hate extremes, find a middle ground where both can live well.

women have babies, take care of them, feed them and they suffer all of that...

Now tell me, would u do all of that instead of ur wife in the future? or would rather to drive a Corolla or even a bike for the rest of your life?

do u want me to open a new thread about how a lot of women in our society suffer from men's greediness?

The Orthodox Jews have a saying for men:

Dress yourself just a little bit less well than you can afford;

Dress your wife just a little bit better than you can afford.

Well, if a man treats his wife like a queen, he would want her to drive the best cars and he would sacrifice his comfort for hers :love: Anyways, in my defense as a woman, I say that my husband is a reflection of me, so I would want him to look good. There is no point that I am "all that", and he is "nothing" because it is hurting me too. So I would rather as Nabs said, find a middle ground where we are both happy with our spending, our cars and clothes.

Also, addressing one of your points, I would blame my husband for marrying a 2nd wife, not the woman because I expect a single woman to want a man in her life in whatever way (whether by stealing him from another woman or whatever)...it is within their nature (not all, but mostly). Something I have observed is that two male best friends will rarely ever try to steal each other serious girlfriends/fiances/wives, however with women, it is much easier for them to choose a man over their female best friend any day.

Haha and yes, it is up to the man to provide his family with a roof over their head and the food on the table. Tough, it is just the way things are :p.

Ah, please! this is all just poppycock! :bored: I think a marriage should be equal, instead of a partner being way beyond one. It just can't work. :os

Tell me you are kidding about the second wife to be blamed. OMG.....I can feel a gray hair pushing out. Are men such whimps that they feel they are forced to marry? What happened to being a man and saying no? Who forced you to marry against your will? Give me a break. (Rolling my eyes BIG time)

haha poor markov. what to do eh. he's jealous of a fancy abaya now.
no no..

he just can't get over how unfair it is that only women get pregnant. Sorry markov. You may never get to experience the JOY of being pregnant.

tough luck. :p

oh markov! Sounds like someone needs some tlc... tsk tsk.
About the designer women and scruffy men: that just makes me feel a kind of pity. If the man is so weak that he can't even assert his right to use his own money...
And about taking the rights back: what rights have women taken from men so far? Anything that makes them feel sub-human? Now go back and flip the question around... how many rights have men taken from women?

i think i said it in the double standards thread...

yah i think it's unfair, but nothing wrong with soiling ur wife a little :angel:



women should decide, if they want to be equal, they should be equal in EVERYTHING...

not asked to be spoiled n taken care of here,,,,, and ask to be let free there....

I can safely say for myself I would never want a wimp for a husband but an equal. If I have a nice car by all rights he should also and by nice I mean a car that won't break our wallets and is reasonable to have in our budget. I am very practical. I hate when men or women spend beyond their means and then lament they don't have money for the basics i.e. paying the mortgage, groceries, etc.........to those people I say: "GROW UP!"

If a woman wants expensive stuff and is breaking her husband's wallet to me she is more of a b!tch than a wife. A wife would never put her husband through that crap. She would spend within the means of their family's budget.

If she is breaking the bank then she is either 1. VERY selfish or 2. Getting back at her husband in some way.

I wear a dishdasha that costs more 10 Rials, I drive a nice car, though I am not married. But, If she wants an expensive car, if she wants branded clothes, I don't care, she got salary to spend! At the end of the day, I don't feel myself as a victim!

I personally think it should be a balance between both of them, as said, there is no point in a woman with everything and her husband is nothing, and even the vise verse !

Both of them is the mirror of the other, and ya, if she is working, then she need to participate with something, even though it is the husband responsibilities to take care of her.



Moved from General Sabla

My message to all men out there, start fighting back and take your rights

Markov please exclude me from your list of "all men"

Maybe this Corolla driver needs to get a life instead of wasting time calling local FM stations & narrating his trashy poetry

This guy doesn't know how to treat a woman

I wont be surprised if it's a '98 model Corolla that he drives, he should be demoted & drive a '88 model Starlet

Its actually funny cause its us women complaining about men all the time not the other way round,:D

Thats exactly ma point, women complain but they are the ones oppressing, aren't you surprised?

Anyways. The Way I see it is that both should do their share of the work and help eachother out. I don't think it's right that one person does more then the other.. I mean Yeah A man should help and provide for his family.. But if his Woman loved em enough she'd help em out as well and Do her share

Merci for saying that. Why am I glad someone thinks the same way as I do?

omg.....
are ALL women driving ferraris and their husbands driving lada's instead?

My message to all men out there, start fighting back and take your rights.

Nope my father told once ‘ boy, don’t fight with women, just be a real man’

There must be a obvious weakness for the guy to let his right to be eaten , I would rather fight with the guy and fix him

haha poor markov. what to do eh. he's jealous of a fancy abaya now.

Its not only the abya... Its the $80,000 beemer that she drives :yell:

so what if she has a nicer car? does it mean the man is opressed? maybe he's concerned and wants her to drive the kids to school in the safer car he can afford.
or it could be her dowry money, she spent them on a nice car.

(( ladies first))
man i hate these two words..

You are not the only one, its time to reprogramme our dictionaries

so what if she has a nicer car? does it mean the man is opressed? maybe he's concerned and wants her to drive the kids to school in the safer car he can afford.
or it could be her dowry money, she spent them on a nice car.

This tells me you have never been in a Corolla dear

no i ride a donkey to go to work

what i realy realy hate is u standing in a Q for a long time....n then suddenly a lady comes n simply goes !!! without asking....or acting and pretending that she is on hurry .....very very few r polite enough to ask !!!! but i learnt to ignore them......let them wait:D

Exactly, looks like we got a lot of agreements here, am glad men are finally beginning to realise how much we been victimised

no i ride a donkey to go to work

Riding a donkey is safer than driving a Corolla.

Riding a donkey is safer than driving a Corolla.
and i think you should re-read my post.
i told you that maybe he wanted to give his wife the safer car (bmw) to drive the kids to school and kept the corolla for himself.

Yes, there are women who are taking the best of both worlds.


So its not only confined to our part of the world?

I wonder what happens in those tiny Mediterranean Islands

at the moment i'm on my super luxurious sofa, with the laptop on my lap, watching tv, having something nice to drink and my poor husband is scrubbing the scullery. that's what men do all over the world.

and i think you should re-read my post.
i told you that maybe he wanted to give his wife the safer car (bmw) to drive the kids to school and kept the corolla for himself.

I read your post twice, and understood exactly what you meant, now I think you shud re-read my post as well, a woman driving a $80,000 car and wearing 400 Rial abaya, not to mention jewelry etc, while her husband wear a $20 dishdasha, and drives a $18,000 Corolla. And her comments were like, he is responsible, he shud take care of me, the house, the kids etc. I mean she also works and could help out as well.....

at the moment i'm on my super luxurious sofa, with the laptop on my lap, watching tv, having something nice to drink and my poor husband is scrubbing the scullery. that's what men do all over the world.

Unlike the beemer lady, at least you have shown some sympathy

but I also witnessed cases where it's the other way around and it's the woman who barely has anything.

I also have, about three cases, no more

I don't think men are victimized. They victimise themselves for girls. In the queue situation, if the man said heey you girl be in line and you cashier i came first so you have to serve ME first then I don't think the girl will go first. But you guys go like ah she's a girl let her go and then complain that she went first. Also the corolla thingy markov, no one forced you to buy a corolla, buy a mercedes :D

I read your post twice, and understood exactly what you meant, now I think you shud re-read my post as well, a woman driving a $80,000 car and wearing 400 Rial abaya, not to mention jewelry etc, while her husband wear a $20 dishdasha, and drives a $18,000 Corolla. And her comments were like, he is responsible, he shud take care of me, the house, the kids etc. I mean she also works and could help out as well.....
yes but is the man unhappy with the arrangment?
i know lots of families where they are really well off and the man feels uncomfortable showing off the wealth they have, and the wife is popping in and out of designer stuff. the man probably has only one suit and he only wears it to weddings cos he has to.

Something I have observed is that two male best friends will rarely ever try to steal each other serious girlfriends/fiances/wives, however with women, it is much easier for them to choose a man over their female best friend any day.

Well said, so this is something you need to work out among yourselves, and stop blaming us

yes but is the man unhappy with the arrangment?
i know lots of families where they are really well off and the man feels uncomfortable showing off the wealth they have, and the wife is popping in and out of designer stuff. the man probably has only one suit and he only wears it to weddings cos he has to.

I dont really know the guy, but let me put it this way, ask anyone who has been in a Corolla and they will tell you if they are happy with the arrangement, I know I wont be. :(

Are men such whimps that they feel they are forced to marry? What happened to being a man and saying no? Who forced you to marry against your will? (Rolling my eyes BIG time)

Keep rolling them...


Who can say no to a twenty something wearing a 400 Rial abaya and driving a $80,000 Beemer?

he just can't get over how unfair it is that only women get pregnant. Sorry markov. You may never get to experience the JOY of being pregnant.

tough luck. :p

Only Shwarznagger and a male sea horse can get pregnant. :hyper:

About the designer women and scruffy men: that just makes me feel a kind of pity. If the man is so weak that he can't even assert his right to use his own money...


Poor guy, I wish I cud help...

women should decide, if they want to be equal, they should be equal in EVERYTHING...

not asked to be spoiled n taken care of here,,,,, and ask to be let free there....

Thats exactly what am talking abt, no wonder you got four starts, and by the way, how does one get four stars?


I wear a dishdasha that costs more 10 Rials, I drive a nice car, though I am not married.

Wait till you r married, then post again, then compare.



I wont be surprised if it's a '98 model Corolla that he drives, he should be demoted & drive a '88 model Starlet

I dont believe this! You actually know the guy!


Also the corolla thingy markov, no one forced you to buy a corolla, buy a mercedes

Mr Eminem, first of all its not me, secondly the guy is financially challenged.

Lool, I don't think the woman beat him up and took his money.. it was his choice so yeaaah it's up to him!

Well said, so this is something you need to work out among yourselves, and stop blaming us

Actually no! Because I expect this behavior from a fellow female, I will not blame her! I will blame the man. An example would be, if I leave out exposed meat on my front lawn, I will not blame a cat for wanting to eat it, but I will blame the responsible-well-fed adult for eating it when it is clearly dirty and infested with maggots :Sick:

I'm glad I'm Angel_Eyes :)

Lool, I don't think the woman beat him up and took his money.. it was his choice so yeaaah it's up to him!

Exactly :yes:

That's why, I definitely want to marry a rich man who wouldn’t make such a big fuss about spending little money on his hubby wifey. :angel:

Arab men with (or without) money are fckd. Or rather Arab men who marry girls with a high maintenance bill are.

This is the price you pay for having to be the guardian and treating your women like children. We all know children are very expensive. They have restricted liberties, they can't make the big decisions, they are below you, not equal to you.. but they need to be entertained, fed, clothed, kept in tip top condition, and given plenty of toys to keep them from being naughty.

If I were born an arab girl and married a man with money, hell yes! I'd want a bimmer too. I'd want a huge nice house with 4 maids. I'd want alot of money for shopping and only the finest abayas. Bored women find alot of time to go shopping. They need some excitement in their life, so they get a luxurious car.


But I would give all that up just to be an equal, to share in decision making, to have my choices respected, to have a friend and companion in my husband and not only see him at bedtime because he's hanging out with his buddies and their shisha in a different room, to be treated as an equal partner and not as a child, to have the opportunity to work for us too, to make my own decisions and not have them made for me and to have the same freedoms he enjoys.


Money is important. But it MEANS little to me. I could never fill an empty, sad, boring life with money. It's just not good enough for me. I'd rather not have all the luxury, not be loaded (not be poor.. but be ok) and be happier.

But I understand people who do and I understand why.