View Full Version : Double-standards of Omani men!


Dam3eti
26-04-08, 02:33 PM
Double-standards is the treatment of one class of people differently than the other. My question is that do you feel that Omani men have a double-standard in regards to their treatment of women? What I mean is they allow themselves to do things just because they are “men” and are allowed to do it. I don’t want this discussion to turn into a religious one, I know that in Islam women have some restrictions, but I’m sure all of you agree that in Islam BOTH men and women are not allowed to engage in premarital relationships (Boyfriend/girlfriend) and BOTH men and women are not allowed to smoke. Then how come society is OK with men doing so, but if a women does the same she is considered “impure”?

1. Do you agree that men in Oman have double-standards in regards to women?

2. MEN: Do you allow your sisters to do whatever you do? Stay out late, have a boyfriend etc?

WOMEN: Do your brothers/fathers/husbands try to control you even though they do the exact same things they stop you from doing?

Feel free to add anything that is related to the topic! Thanks

hijabi
26-04-08, 02:44 PM
1. Do you agree that men in Oman have double-standards in regards to women?

Absolutely. But no more so than men from other countries


WOMEN: Do your brothers/fathers/husbands try to control you even though they do the exact same things they stop you from doing?

Well at some point theyve all tried but failed:D

Feel free to add anything that is related to the topic! Thanks

this problem doesnt only exist here in Oman but pretty much all around the world. The only difference is the way men try to control their women and the things that they have double standards on. But basically its the same ole cwap:D

UmKhalid
26-04-08, 02:46 PM
I think somehow we're lucky to have this mentality in our society to 'double' keep us away from doing these things. At the end, we want God's pleasure.

I wouldn't side with a girl who wants to do something bad just because her brother does the same. It's silly, it's like she's saying: "How come he sins, I want to sin too!"

Endure Whisper
26-04-08, 02:47 PM
Do you agree that men in Oman have double-standards in regards to women?
Big time! I see it with my friendss families and I keep on thanking Allah that although I always thought my family were very strict, nothing is compared to what they go through! Some of my friends are not allowed to drive and some are not allowed to dine out..

WOMEN: Do your brothers/fathers/husbands try to control you even though they do the exact same things they stop you from doing?
That's one of the reasons I am thankful I was raised by a religious father. He never ever said: "you can't do this because you're a girl, but your brothers can"! He always raised us according to the teachings of Islam and never cared about society..

Same with my brothers. Always understanding and will always watch out for me.. If I am doing anything wrong, they'll tell me and talk to me about it... but they wouldn't stop me from doing whatever I wanted to do because they're going through the same thing..

With my husband.. it's not really a double standard case but for example: he wouldn't like it if I go renew my passport on my own because it's a place full of men and I could be harassed (Omani men and their foul language) and I understand that.. but if I go alone he wouldn't get upset..


But when you think about it, although you must be concerned about Oman and the men here, I think we're better treated here than in the neighbouring countries; UAE and KSA. What do you think? ;)

Libellula
26-04-08, 02:49 PM
Our society in general is filled with double standards. Men can date, sleep around, stay out late, smoke, travel whenever they want, etc while women can have a hard time if they try to do these things. Fact is, the moment you are born a female in the Arab world, you are immediately at a disadvantage. It has a lot to do with reputations and how a girl's reputation is apparently more important than a guy's.

My younger brother stays out until 3 or 4 am in the morning sometimes, while I had to be home by 12 am. I'm not saying that I want to stay out that late (there's nothing to do anyway), but it's the principle of the matter that counts. All I know is, my children are going to be treated equally no matter what. If I expect my daughter home at a certain time, my son will be expected home at that time as well.

Also, for some reason it's okay for the guys to have mediocre grades, while the girls are expected to excel at everything they do. This, I really don't understand, since at the end of the day the guy's the one who will have to be responsible for his future family.

Apart from that, I really have no major complaints. Luckily my family is pretty fair when it comes to most things.

Dam3eti
26-04-08, 02:59 PM
I agree with what most of you guys are saying. They do have double-standards, I'm not saying that we should be allowed to do these things but if we're not then they shouldn't be allowed either. I know in our society a girl's reputation is the most important thing in her life and she should maintain it, however I don't think guys should get away with the things they do.

I know that it exists in other places and not just Oman, but I wanted to focus my topic on Oman. I do agree that Saudis and other gulf countries have it worse than us, but that doesn't mean we should accept that it is happening. :)

UmKhalid
26-04-08, 03:10 PM
To change it we have to change how people raise their children. But until now, it's really the same. The family raises the boy and tells him he can do anything, if he exceeds the limits he gets told off a bit, and then that's it. But if it's the girl ...

"OFF WITH HER HEAD" - Queen, Alice in Wonderland.

El Rey
26-04-08, 09:49 PM
It's all about reputation. The girl's reputation is more fragile than the boy's. It's not because families are ok with the boy smoke for example and NO for the girl. It's not OK for both genders but traditions condemns the girl more cos umm she's a girl :D

UmKhalid
26-04-08, 09:51 PM
I have no idea why I remembered my cousin but I feel like qouting him here is relevant to the topic: "FEEEEELING!"


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edit:

Ok, I remember now. It's his way of teasing.
"I can drive!"
"I can't :("
"HAHA! FEEEELIIIING!"

death rose
26-04-08, 09:57 PM
its not only for omani men :\
and yes i think lotsa men are like this ..after all they wanna feel that they are in controll
and yes my dad and brother are sometimes like this ...

ToomuchaT
26-04-08, 11:09 PM
.. but I’m sure all of you agree that in Islam BOTH men and women are not allowed to engage in premarital relationships (Boyfriend/girlfriend) and BOTH men and women are not allowed to smoke. Then how come society is OK with men doing so, but if a women does the same she is considered “impure”?


I come from the heart deep of the Omani society but I never knew that men are allowed to engage in premarital affairs!! And never came to a single case where a male was praised for it while a female was degraded!!

I came to many cases where marriage proposals of some males were rejected because they involved in such issues.

I came to many cases where females missed the marriage train because of the same issue.

The society might not please all, but will never intend to harm individuals unless it was deserved!!

Dam3eti
26-04-08, 11:24 PM
^By premarital relationships I don't mean sexual relationships. What is meant is boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. A guy talking on the phone with a girl. I didn't say ALL of them are praised, but I know of families that joke about their sons talking to girls etc and don't take the issue seriously, but if it was their daughters who are involved they would treat the matter differently.

ToomuchaT
26-04-08, 11:34 PM
^By premarital relationships I don't mean sexual relationships. What is meant is boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. A guy talking on the phone with a girl. I didn't say ALL of them are praised, but I know of families that joke about their sons talking to girls etc and don't take the issue seriously, but if it was their daughters who are involved they would treat the matter differently.

I know what you meant Dam3eti, and again even though I have been away from the country for 8 years but still I have never witnessed or told that a family is joking about their sons talking to girls and when it comes to their daughters they get angry.

In our society and how children are raised is to do as you like to be done. Some children will go behind their familes which I agree with BUT once they are busted there is no mercy for them. Ask me lol.

Superbia
26-04-08, 11:40 PM
WOMEN: Do your brothers/fathers/husbands try to control you even though they do the exact same things they stop you from doing?

My dad isn't exactly controllable, he allows me to do lots of stuff.. I'd say he's easy going. Whereas my bro, God he was a problem! Long back he'd do stuff and be extremely controlling if I do anything, anything he thinks is wrong. It was so annoying, he'd threaten, shout.. Not until lately, where as we grew up he flipped 180 degrees, whenever I do something that may appear wrong in his eyes, he'll talk to me in a polite manner and say that I'm old enough to know what's right and wrong :) I think by time brothers and fathers realize that it's not their field to decide what's wrong and right for us.

Guwantanamist
27-04-08, 12:31 AM
I totaly agree that we have double standards when it comes into women in Oman :angry:

- When we used to do something wrong, or nearly wrong, we get punished ... while my sister(s) was/were never punished.:inno:

- When it comes to rules, we were never aload to break rules, while it is very easy to ignore rules when it comes to women! :cool:

- We rarely get what we want, while they (i.e. sisters = women) rarely not get what they want. :no:

- When it comes to do things, we are expected -as men- to be able to do it perfectly, otherwise we are not fit for the job or are too lazy. In the other side, any job a women does is an "excellent" job, few mistakes here & few mistakes there is not a problem...you know how life is, "we all do mistakes" :bomb:


In conclusion, yes we live in a double standard country ! :help:

Dam3eti
27-04-08, 12:38 AM
^The topic is about men having double-standards and not the opposite. Thanks anyway.

Arabian Princess
27-04-08, 12:42 AM
we have double standered in our society .. not only about sins but about many "casual" things (Exp. going and sitting in a resturant or a coffee shop). I dont blame society though .. outside muscat, tradition remains intact and girls are expected to be good and at home while it is acceptable for boys to go out and socialize. Change wouldnt happen that easy and its slowly changing now ..However, I dont want the society judgment to go away all togther because its a method of controling society from going astray ..

Arabian Princess
27-04-08, 12:44 AM
I totaly agree that we have double standards when it comes into women in Oman :angry:

- When we used to do something wrong, or nearly wrong, we get punished ... while my sister(s) was/were never punished.:inno:

- When it comes to rules, we were never aload to break rules, while it is very easy to ignore rules when it comes to women! :cool:

- We rarely get what we want, while they (i.e. sisters = women) rarely not get what they want. :no:

- When it comes to do things, we are expected -as men- to be able to do it perfectly, otherwise we are not fit for the job or are too lazy. In the other side, any job a women does is an "excellent" job, few mistakes here & few mistakes there is not a problem...you know how life is, "we all do mistakes" :bomb:


In conclusion, yes we live in a double standard country ! :help:

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Guwan .. leave your sister alone .. she is too delicate to be trated the way you were treated .. you were uncontrolable :p

AMARANT
27-04-08, 12:48 AM
yah true

it's our culture, and i dont think we can change that :think:


in my family, even guys cant have relationships with girls, stay out late, smoke, etc...

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and other than the cultural reasons, there are some other reasons:

- women are more fragile then men, so families care about them more.

- when a guy talks to a girl, he knows his intentions, but he dont trust the guy talking to his sister.

- women are such a beautiful, sensetive creatures, thier image is very important, while men's image is already messed up :p

Libellula
27-04-08, 12:50 AM
- when a guy talks to a girl, he knows his intentions, but he dont trust the guy talking to his sister.

Right.

What about the girl he's talking to's brother? I doubt he trusts the guy who's talking to his sister.

:yell:

Guwantanamist
27-04-08, 01:42 AM
^The topic is about men having double-standards and not the opposite. Thanks anyway.

You see, this is another example of what i mean ! :os

You dont even want to speak about it, although i was seriously speaking.

Ladies, in general, dont see the other side of the picture.

Actually what I wanted to point out is the following: There might be No double-standards. Its just what you think you see :)

P.S: I didnt want to diverge the topic, its just the other side opinion :sabla:

Dam3eti
27-04-08, 01:48 AM
How is it what "I" think to see, when there others who also see it? There might be a double-standard against men aswell but don't you think that men in general have much more freedom than women? They can go anywhere they wanted to go, stay out as late as they want etc but the women have a certain places they shouldn't be seen in or certain curfews. Also I know about a group of girls who are not allowed to go near Shatti because they're afraid their brothers and cousins would spot them. Is it that insane?

5alfanooh
27-04-08, 01:55 AM
You are Insane Dam3eti if you tried to ask an Omani Guy the Question you asked :)

Well, honestly .. Yes Omani men have Double Standards.. this is the logic of life in Oman.. unless the Oman you are refering to is in another planet :p

Dam3eti
27-04-08, 02:06 AM
^ No it's the same Oman.. And I do think there's a double-standard.

Kreeemy
27-04-08, 02:17 AM
I am against the whole idea of girls being identical to men.
I don’t understand why it is upsetting for some of the girls that men have more freedom.
Why on earth those girls would want to stay out late all night? Want to smoke? Date guys? Engage in sexual relationship?

Just because it is some how excusable for guys to do such things or behave in such ways doesn’t make it necessary a good thing and certainly not worth for girls to feel its unfair, talk and fight over the whole issue especially that what ever the guys are doing is against our religion.

Why don’t girls look at it from a positive angel instead of winning and complaining about not being allowed to act like men?

Didn’t it occur that some how it could be a good thing that there are certain restrictions to at least one gender for such behaviour?
Ask your self this; would u prefer to be raised by a drunken irresponsible mother or a drunken irresponsible father? Obviously, either case will have some negative impact on u, but which will damage you more as a person?

The mother’s role can not be replaced even by the father. Breast feeding could be replaced by a bottle and you could be feed by your father through those so called bottles but at the end of the day breast feeding is still way better and that is only one example.

We should be thankful that there are certain restrictions to at least one gender and girls are chosen to be the better people in society since they have more influence in the up bringing of children. There is a bit of balance now. If both genders are corrupted I wonder how the nation would turn out.

Dam3eti
27-04-08, 02:23 AM
^We are not saying that we are against those restrictions. We are saying that if we have them then men should have them too. It's forbidden for men to do all those things as well! Ur basically saying that it's okay for men to do all these "bad" things so we can have a balanced society? You can't deny that there is a double-standard, and if women have certain restrictions men should have them too. I know that won't happen I'm just proving a point.

Kreeemy
27-04-08, 02:58 AM
I am not denying that there are some double standards and I am not saying its ok for men to initiate such behaviour. There is no doubt that it is a bonus if your husband or your father is a decent guy. But I wouldn’t want to marry such guy just because his parents were too protective and set him a curfew of 9pm.

It would be nicer if a guy turned out decent with all the influences and temptations out side his home. Parents are probably allowing their sons to stay out to train them to be better men.

Can you imagine how your brother would turn out if your parents were so protective?
He would probably be very weak, very emotional, got easily beaten up, coward….etc and that is not ok for a guy.

While its ok for a girl to be weak, to cry, to be afraid ...….etc

If you are talking about smoking, drinking, having sex prior to marriage, I don’t think it is acceptable for both gender. I haven’t been across a parent that is cool about his son doing such things and would talk about it proudly. It could be cool among his friends but certainly not around his parents.

As for dating girls, parents do tease their sons so that they could find out whether he has someone in mind and that is because men pick woman for marriage. I suppose they would be against it if they found out that their son actually took a girl out on a date.

STING
27-04-08, 09:36 AM
Double standards better than having no standards.

UmKhalid
27-04-08, 11:54 AM
Ok, we don't like double standards, there are two things we can aim for:

- To let guys and girl equally date, equally smoke, equally do anything bad without getting punished.

- To catch guys and girls do those things and get their heads equally chopped off.

Diabian
27-04-08, 12:55 PM
ut I’m sure all of you agree that in Islam BOTH men and women are not allowed to engage in premarital relationships (Boyfriend/girlfriend) and BOTH men and women are not allowed to smoke. Then how come society is OK with men doing so, but if a women does the same she is considered “impure”?


Who said the society is OK with premarital relationships or smoking with regards to men?!:think:

anyways, I think if you wana have a premarital relationship or you want to smoke... then go ahead, no one will stop you. No need for Men x Women thingie.:XD:
And honestly, I can help you, and make things easier for you :XD:

Dam3eti
27-04-08, 01:20 PM
^I wasn't reffering to myself. No where in my post did I say that I wanted to do these things.

AMARANT
27-04-08, 02:22 PM
Right.

What about the girl he's talking to's brother? I doubt he trusts the guy who's talking to his sister.

:yell:

yah exactly what i meant, that girl's brother wont accept it as well, but might do it, if he knows his intentions...

Diabian
27-04-08, 02:39 PM
Then I don't see the need for criticizing the double-standardizations , if any, with Omani men!!

Angel_Eyes
27-04-08, 02:41 PM
is it my imagination or did one of my posts get deleted?

marianna
27-04-08, 05:27 PM
One thing I could not get used to in Oman was seeing a bus full of men and women...a sea of white up front and a sea of black in the back....we were going to Green Mountain for hiking. I told my ex this reminded of the 1950's when African Americans had to sit in the back.

From what I understood, same concept as in the mosque, the men are up front and the women in the rear so that there is no lusting if a man sees the woman's back.....well, I guess it proves to show women are stronger since they have to sit in the back and having all that sea of white inadvertently are checking out the men's back. :D

FLORENTYNA
27-04-08, 05:34 PM
One thing I could not get used to in Oman was seeing a bus full of men and women...a sea of white up front and a sea of black in the back....we were going to Green Mountain for hiking. I told my ex this reminded of the 1950's when African Americans had to sit in the back.

From what I understood, same concept as in the mosque, the men are up front and the women in the rear so that there is no lusting if a man sees the woman's back.....well, I guess it proves to show women are stronger since they have to sit in the back and having all that sea of white inadvertently are checking out the men's back. :D
lol Marianna...

I also wonder sometimes why women in black and men in white...nice combination though:hyper:

Dam3eti
27-04-08, 05:43 PM
Then I don't see the need for criticizing the double-standardizations , if any, with Omani men!!

Excuse me? What do you mean you don't see the need for it, its a hypocrisy they live in and it's happening whether you admit it or not. I'm not criticizing I'm asking your views on it, if you feel that it does not exist then that's your opinion, so don't jump into conclusions just coz I opened the thread (it does not mean that I want to smoke, have premarital relationships etc).

marianna
27-04-08, 06:27 PM
Black draws in the heat...white repels it so should be women wearing white and men black since men like to be so macho they can handle the extra heat right??? :) :)

Abdullah II
27-04-08, 06:44 PM
I am against the whole idea of girls being identical to men.
I don’t understand why it is upsetting for some of the girls that men have more freedom.
Why on earth those girls would want to stay out late all night? Want to smoke? Date guys? Engage in sexual relationship?

Just because it is some how excusable for guys to do such things or behave in such ways doesn’t make it necessary a good thing and certainly not worth for girls to feel its unfair, talk and fight over the whole issue especially that what ever the guys are doing is against our religion.

Why don’t girls look at it from a positive angel instead of winning and complaining about not being allowed to act like men?

Didn’t it occur that some how it could be a good thing that there are certain restrictions to at least one gender for such behaviour?
Ask your self this; would u prefer to be raised by a drunken irresponsible mother or a drunken irresponsible father? Obviously, either case will have some negative impact on u, but which will damage you more as a person?

The mother’s role can not be replaced even by the father. Breast feeding could be replaced by a bottle and you could be feed by your father through those so called bottles but at the end of the day breast feeding is still way better and that is only one example.

We should be thankful that there are certain restrictions to at least one gender and girls are chosen to be the better people in society since they have more influence in the up bringing of children. There is a bit of balance now. If both genders are corrupted I wonder how the nation would turn out.

post of the month, I agree with it

Rossonero
27-04-08, 08:12 PM
we have double standered in our society .. not only about sins but about many "casual" things (Exp. going and sitting in a resturant or a coffee shop). I dont blame society though .. outside muscat, tradition remains intact and girls are expected to be good and at home while it is acceptable for boys to go out and socialize. Change wouldnt happen that easy and its slowly changing now ..However, I dont want the society judgment to go away all togther because its a method of controling society from going astray ..

AP, Well I grew up seeing that women always socialize by visiting each other in their homes all the time, weddings, visiting the ill and the woman who just gave birth. Men never do that unless it's a Malka.

I've noticed that my female classmates always spent Wednesday/Thursday at one of the girls house, the same with my sisters..either go out with cousins or go to cousins house or sometimes friends house. So I guess mostly women like the "home thing".

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1. Do you agree that men in Oman have double-standards in regards to women?
They do, but not always. It depends on the situation, but in the end everyone has his/her fair share.

2. MEN: Do you allow your sisters to do whatever you do? Stay out late, have a boyfriend etc?
My sisters know what they do and what they shouldn't do. They grew up knowing that and like me, they have been raised in the best way. They do stay out late because of weddings and visits. As for the boyfriend thing, the way they were raised wouldn't even let them think about having a boyfriend. I do not interfere when it comes to my sisters since:
1-I am the youngest and I can never do anything about it :p
2-They know better than I do.
3-They always know the right decision more than I do.

The brain.
29-04-08, 06:56 PM
Can someone tell me what ladies want to do or what they would like to see to make it abetter transparency society..?
Just for my understanding .ya3ni

Abdullah II
29-04-08, 07:31 PM
Can someone tell me what ladies want to do or what they would like to see to make it abetter transparency society..?
Just for my understanding .ya3ni

i believe women don't really know what they want most of the time . :p:hyper:

marianna
29-04-08, 07:40 PM
Hmmm I do. :)

Say what you mean and mean what you say...always my motto.

Nella
29-04-08, 07:43 PM
I am not denying that there are some double standards and I am not saying its ok for men to initiate such behaviour. There is no doubt that it is a bonus if your husband or your father is a decent guy. But I wouldn’t want to marry such guy just because his parents were too protective and set him a curfew of 9pm.

It would be nicer if a guy turned out decent with all the influences and temptations out side his home. Parents are probably allowing their sons to stay out to train them to be better men.

Can you imagine how your brother would turn out if your parents were so protective?
He would probably be very weak, very emotional, got easily beaten up, coward….etc and that is not ok for a guy.

While its ok for a girl to be weak, to cry, to be afraid ...….etc

If you are talking about smoking, drinking, having sex prior to marriage, I don’t think it is acceptable for both gender. I haven’t been across a parent that is cool about his son doing such things and would talk about it proudly. It could be cool among his friends but certainly not around his parents.

As for dating girls, parents do tease their sons so that they could find out whether he has someone in mind and that is because men pick woman for marriage. I suppose they would be against it if they found out that their son actually took a girl out on a date.

very well put Kreeemy. :)

especially what i've highlighted in bold, i've seen it and it's just so sad. :no:

squinty
29-04-08, 07:51 PM
People always tell me this:
"She is your cousin! Tell her not to do it!"
Then I answer: "So you can do it and she can't?"

They think girls are not meant to do this and that but why do guys do it then?

I don't believe in letting a guy do something and not the girl.

As for staying up late at home I wouldn't mind but being out... I think the brothers / fathers or let us say generally "men" fear for their safety.

Lym
29-04-08, 09:10 PM
I'm not asking to be allowed to be roaming the streets at 3 am. I am just asking that he has a curfew just like I do. I am asking to be beaten up when I smoke, I would like him to be beaten up too. I'm not asking to be able to date, but I don't want for him to be able to date without fearing my parents.

Same standards.

Kreemy, I believe you can restrict your sons without making them "weak". It's discipline, not protectiveness. You can make them strong through the existence of rules and discipline. I don't believe the whole argument, if you treat your son like your daughter then he is going to be weak and not-man-enough.

AMARANT
30-04-08, 12:19 AM
double-standard happens on both sides...

how many times did u see a women passing a whoooole que, to do her paper work, just cuz she's a women??

how many times did u see instructors giving girls better grades than boys? (dit see it the other way around)

how many times did u see a man, stepping aside, so he can give space for a women to pass? doesnt happen the other way around...

and there are other examples...


all im saying, women get treated differently, in a good and in a bad way...

Kreeemy
01-05-08, 06:51 AM
Kreemy, I believe you can restrict your sons without making them "weak". It's discipline, not protectiveness. You can make them strong through the existence of rules and discipline. I don't believe the whole argument, if you treat your son like your daughter then he is going to be weak and not-man-enough.

As simple as this,
What could possibly happen if you left your son stay out late?
Got beaten up, well that’s good for him; I suppose it will just toughen him up and next time he will learn to fight back.

I just feel that for boys to be real men they need to learn survival skills, its like cats when you trap them in your home they will be very weak and when you let them out they would probably die because they cant find their own food or be eaten by stronger cats because the cat couldn’t fight since he lacked the skills for it.

Lym
01-05-08, 09:46 AM
But he is going to practice his survival skills, through schools and socializing. He does not have to do it at 1 am! He can do all that he needs every hour of the day, he doesn't have to do in the wee hours of the morning. I mean, I fail to see how is he being able to stay late is going to make him more of a man. He can be a man in other ways, through responsibilities, rules, duties and discipline. Once my son is older, I think the rules can be relaxed. Once he is married, he can do what he wants - he can sleep outside if he wishes to but not under my roof.

I don't want my girls thinking that they're inferior to their brothers since it is something I abhor in this society. Either they both have curfews or non do. And since I see the disadvantages of having no curfew, then the alternative is the only option if I want them to be equal.

IceTea
01-05-08, 10:01 AM
It is not double standard, both boys and girls are raised to stay away from bad acts but if the girl did a fault then it will affact her reputation easily compared to the boy, that is why girls should be over protected as they are easy to be misled by bad people since they are mainly driven by emotions.

Pen_it_Black
01-05-08, 11:49 AM
Why is it that a girl's reputation can be tarnished easily?

Yeah I see plenty of double standards and I don't likes it at all.

Rossonero
01-05-08, 02:32 PM
Why is it that a girl's reputation can be tarnished easily?

Yeah I see plenty of double standards and I don't likes it at all.

Eve is from Adam. Should Eve be disgraced, Adam would too.

World_Trekker
01-05-08, 02:42 PM
Do you agree that men in Oman have double-standards in regards to women?

In terms of personal relationship, I agree. ( Sorry to Omani guys in this forum :P ) . I found that Almost all Omani guys that I knew talk freely with Female expats ( especially Filipinos, Lebanese, Moroccan and Western expats living in Oman ) while Omani women are not allowed to. This is a clear-cut, very obvious double standard.

How would they feel if they saw their own sisters talking to a stranger guy ? So why treat these female expats differently from your sisters and female relatives ?

I'm not implying here to let all Omani women to mingle freely with male expats. But Omani men should stick to the rule - not to talk and mingle freely with female expats too :think:

squinty
01-05-08, 03:29 PM
^
Omani people... guys in general.. would do EVERYTHING they want but will NEVER let their brothers or sisters do it..
Believe me.. you might hate them! :p

Dam3eti
01-05-08, 03:41 PM
As simple as this,
What could possibly happen if you left your son stay out late?
Got beaten up, well that’s good for him; I suppose it will just toughen him up and next time he will learn to fight back.



That's not the worse that could happen! They could be involved with drugs, drinking and other damaging things. Why do they need to stay out till after mid-night? I'm not saying that as a girl I want to be able to stay out as late as I want to, I'm just saying that, if i'm supposed to be home at 10 pm, its unfair that my brother could not come back home until 3 am!

Also I wouldn't want my son to be beaten up by any other guy just to learn survival skills. That's just insane.

5alfanooh
01-05-08, 03:45 PM
^^ but depends on the family itself at the end, some families have strict cerfews for both girls and boys and some don't... but its never the opposite way where girls can stay later than the guy :p

Jeff
01-05-08, 04:25 PM
It takes two to tango.

If it's terrible for girls to be corrupted by boys but okay for boys to corrupt girls, well, the biters are going to get bitten in the end.

While you're saying "not my girls", the other boys are working hard, full time to make sure that it is. And bit by bit they will be winning.

No: you can't say "men are the responsible ones", etc., etc. and not teach them to be responsible right at the beginning where it counts.

Threadlike
01-05-08, 09:08 PM
How is this linked only to Oman?
Really, men can be assholes all around the world.

Dam3eti
01-05-08, 11:03 PM
^I know that, but I started this thread because of a research I'm doing, and Oman is its basis.

Markov
02-05-08, 12:30 AM
1. Do you agree that men in Oman have double-standards in regards to women?

I wont call it double standards, what girls dont understand is, this is a protection for them. For example, imagine yourself coming back from a party at 3 am, you then come across Mr Hitman at a dark street corner.corner, then what

2. MEN: Do you allow your sisters to do whatever you do? Stay out late, have a boyfriend etc?

What?

WOMEN: Do your brothers/fathers/husbands try to control you even though they do the exact same things they stop you from doing?

Not a woman, so cannot answer, soowyyy

marianna
02-05-08, 12:34 AM
Thank GOD I know how to protect myself. Women are not dumb. Maybe when they are very young they are still too innocent but protect them too much and how can they possibly survive in the real world?

ToomuchaT
02-05-08, 02:13 AM
Eve is from Adam. Should Eve be disgraced, Adam would too.


When I have rep-credit, this is the first post to rep. *currently you are number 100 in the queue :p*

I like that sort of philosophy.

Kreeemy
02-05-08, 03:30 AM
He could be involved in drugs, drinking and other issues if I haven’t planted in him good values. Obviously, I wouldn’t let my son stay out late while he is still in school because he needs to focus on his studies.

But I don’t see the harm in allowing him to stay late after he handles his own job or while he is in university. I wouldn’t just lock him at home for the sake of equality while there is a possibility that he might gain or learn more out doors.

Double standards in Oman are not always in the favour of men. Amarant pointed out some good examples.

Besides, if girls have no interest in staying out late, why is it that they are upset or feel it is unfair that guys can?

Now that is just envious (7asad)