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ToomuchaT
26-04-08, 12:58 AM
An interesting documentary worth watching. Personally, I have nothing to discuss, it's just something for the weekend.

An exploration of the intersection between religion and homosexuality in the U.S. and some religious have used its interpretation of the Bible to stigmatize the gay community.

For The Bible Tells Me So

Jeff
26-04-08, 01:33 AM
Well, Christianity, like Islam, condemns homosexual behavior.

So does common sense.

I don't think it's just "someone's interpretation" of the Bible that condemns it, it's all right there in the Epistle to the Romans, Chapter 1.

Nella
27-04-08, 12:34 AM
a very interesting and worth watching Documentary indeed. thanks for sharing Toomuchat. :)

minerva
27-04-08, 02:48 AM
lol....the church condemns homosexual behaviour.....nowadays there is much more sympathy towards them. they can be homosexual as long as they stay celibate. who's to judge other people but God Himself?

ToomuchaT
27-04-08, 03:11 AM
Okay one question, even though I did not intend to ask anything, and it's somehow not related to the topic:

Even between the muslim scholars when it comes to interpreting some certain quranic verses, you would find the scholars are divided in the way they would interpret these verses.

What are the major issues that Christians or Catholics religious people are divided about especially when it comes to interpreting the bible verses!!

Kara
27-04-08, 03:42 AM
^^ I don't know if this is the answer you are looking for but generally speaking there are different sects within Christianity and mostly because they do have different interpretations of the text.

Kara
27-04-08, 04:20 AM
Homosexuality is listed with all other sexually immoral acts i.e incest and bestiality. I don't think it can be interpreted any other way, its just that there are groups out there who take it to the extreme, just as there are more tolerant groups.

Jeff
27-04-08, 08:57 AM
Okay one question, even though I did not intend to ask anything, and it's somehow not related to the topic:

Even between the muslim scholars when it comes to interpreting some certain quranic verses, you would find the scholars are divided in the way they would interpret these verses.

What are the major issues that Christians or Catholics religious people are divided about especially when it comes to interpreting the bible verses!!

For Catholicism, you know, the final authority is the Church, not the Bible alone. The teaching is grounded in Bible and Tradition, but it is the Church that authoritatively interprets it.

Catholic teaching on homosexuality is pretty clear: homosexual behavior is condemned as immoral. But as with any other immoral behavior, it is the sin that is condemned absolutely, not the sinner. The sinner is called to repentence and redemption.

People who have a weakness may have diminished responsibility for what they do. But the fact remains that the act itself is gravely sinful.

All Christian churches and denominations have agreed on this as something quite clear until modern times. I don't see much wiggle room in interpreting this from the New Testament:

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Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse;
21
for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22
While claiming to be wise, they became fools
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and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
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Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies.
25
They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26
Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural,
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and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity.
28
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper.

Romans 1: 20-28.

It's pretty hard to miss the point of these verses, but in modern times people have gotten very good at missing the obvious when they don't like it! :p

It's worth noting that there are still no major Christian bodies that have expressly endorsed the notion that homosexual behavior is not sinful.

Nella
27-04-08, 02:17 PM
what's interesting about the documentary, is the way they show you how religious families who once believed that homosexuality is an abomination, full stop! are the ones who end up being more tolerant and understanding when one of their family members turn out to be gay. i guess everyone fears what they don't understand. (i'm not saying i approve of homosexuality, i just think people shouldn't want to burn them at the stake.)

i liked the cartoon featured in the documentary as well, but it didn't scintifically explain the reasons behind being a lesbian. is it just a male thing? :think:

ToomuchaT
27-04-08, 07:12 PM
It's pretty hard to miss the point of these verses, but in modern times people have gotten very good at missing the obvious when they don't like it! :p


That's goes for all I guess.

Jeff n Kara, what I meant from my question is what are other issues *apart from "homo" that churches or religious people would interpret in different ways.? Just major issues.