Why do you think religion is important in your life?

Do you think your religion is good or a burden to the non-followers who are also not interested to follow it? and How?

How do you treat others through your religion?


Do you think that differs from the universally understood rules of etiquettes? And why?

How do you apply your way of dealing in the Sabla? Would your way differ if it was in person instead of online?


Remember…your answer will always be compared to your record in the sabla :)

Interesting question and took some guts since there are some very religious people on this forum.

For me religion has always been an integral part of my life.....since time past and as long as I can remember I have always "felt God" in my life....before I was even 5 years old...before I could explain or even understand all the complex meanings religion can take on.

I always welcome constructive arguments face to face or online....I am not a person who is afraid to back down----I can compromise----I can tolerate most situations...yes I will disagree (hello ICE) but overall I enjoy reading everyone's perspectives as long as they do not look down at me from way up high...fingers pointing saying I am a bad person.

To me I find it harder to say, in a face-to-face discussion, that I believe this discussion is going nowhere and so I will not go on with it.

But online, if I find that the discussion is getting ridiculous and not constructive at all, I simply stop participating in it.

Another difference is that a face-to-face discussion is more politer. I guess being online and anonymous makes it easier to be offensive and show that intolerant side.

Oh and one more thing. Facial expressions always help in discussions, when you're talking to someone face to face, you understand if they were serious, joking or meaning to insult you through their expression. But online you might misunderstand someone's joke as being serious because you can't see them smiling while typing it! That is where emoticons come in handy. :p

I hope it's not off-topic. I just wanted to say it because of how the discussions are lately.

Yes UmKhalid VERY good points and the smilies do help take the edge off in some instances. I would like to think people here consider me tolerant because I try not to look down on anyone (BTW it is 4:30am here and I have insomia so bear with me if I type a little lucid).... :D

Why do you think religion is important in your life?

It's Important because God created us for a reason and one of the reasons is to worship Him and follow the laws He made. I consider life is a journey to the herafter which has two ways. One leads to hell and the other one is leading to heaven and each way has a sign to tell us where we want to go. We just have to choose by our deeds in this life.

Do you think your religion is good or a burden to the non-followers who are also not interested to follow it? and How?


Regarding my religion Islam. I don't think it's a burden for others who don't believe in it cos they are not compelled to follow it. In contrary I see it a burden for some believers as our prophet PBUH says:

يأتي يوم الماسك على دينه كالماسك على جمر

( There will be a time when the holder on his religion is like the holder on burning coal )

And this is so true these days since we face so many temptations every day and sometimes I find it so hard to resist them but thank God when I do.

How do you treat others through your religion?

Ummm try my best to be good with others ( Who deserve )

Do you think that differs from the universally understood rules of etiquettes? And why?

I don't think I got this question but if you mean following our religion make us look weird in other non muslim countries then it's sometimes true. For example: Boys and girls in the west think anyone who doesn't go out ( datinng ) with a girl or who's is still virgin is a gay, they don't even grasp the idea that it's against Islam laws and it frustrates me when it comes to me this way :yell:

How do you apply your way of dealing in the Sabla? Would your way differ if it was in person instead of online?

As UK said. Debating in the real life differs from online debate depending on so many things like eye contact, seriousness of the person you're discussing with etcetra etcetra.


Why my answers are different from others ? :think: maybe I misunderstood the topic :D

I always welcome constructive arguments face to face or online....I am not a person who is afraid to back down----I can compromise----I can tolerate most situations...yes I will disagree (hello ICE) but overall I enjoy reading everyone's perspectives as long as they do not look down at me from way up high...fingers pointing saying I am a bad person.

hello!

I hope you don't disagree just because your believe your book said so, for example in the thread "did Jesus die on the cross" the author mentioned many contradicting quotes, but still I can see Chrsitians on board such things doesn't bother them.

Well, we believe Jesus died on the cross and we believe due to faith. Anyway, I do get upset at times but I do remember not everyone believes the same way.

Even if your faith contradicts with what the Bible says?

Even if your faith contradicts with what the Bible says?

Well, when I read the Bible and when Christians read the Bible and when atheist scholars read the Bible--and when pretty much anyone reads the Bible but people like you--it seems to them obvious that the Bible says Jesus died.

Not only that, but that he predicted in many times beforehand. And confirmed it afterward.

But does this belong on this thread?

Isn't the whole point of this thread borne from the irritation that many people feel at the way you converse about religion? :p

I don't know, is the thread about me? :D

You are right this doesn't belong to this thread, but I was just commenting on marianna post.

My Dear Ice, my faith is eternal like my soul. Never shall it waiver. Anyway, I do appreciate the dialogue on this forum and am always interested in hearing varying viewpoings trust me I digest what people say however if what people say contradicts my belief system it won't change my core.

marianna, the thing is what have been stated is from the Bible, don't you consider it the true word of God, if yes how come there are many contradictions in it check 'did Jesus die on the cross' thread.

If what people are saying from their own heads then you are right but it is from the Bible.

My Dear Ice, my faith is eternal like my soul. Never shall it waiver. Anyway, I do appreciate the dialogue on this forum and am always interested in hearing varying viewpoings trust me I digest what people say however if what people say contradicts my belief system it won't change my core.

Good for you! :)

So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

Letter from us, who are us?

Letter from us, who are us?

Us Apostles of Jesus Christ.

Why do you think religion is important in your life?

Golly. It's hard to explain. It seems like I dared God to chase me down if He was real. And He did.

Maybe too as you get older, you see the transitory character of life; everything gets both more important and less important.

Hmm. I love God. Not well. But really.

Do you think your religion is good or a burden to the non-followers who are also not interested to follow it? and How?

I guess it's not for me to say if I make it a burden! I think for me the heart of my religion is Truth. And that makes me want to really see people.

"God does not need my lie," said St. Augustine.

And He doesn't need my half truth or my impatience and He doesn't need my treating Him like a football or a contest that I am trying to win.

He just need me to love my neighbors as best I can. And then get out of the way and let Him do whatever He wants with it.

How do you treat others through your religion?

How do I treat them? Probably not anywhere near as well as I should.

But I think the idea is supposed to be that I approach them as creatures of immense dignity, amazing masterpieces of the Almighty. And as actors in a great drama that I am playing in also, but I do not understand the parts they are playing. But I am always under the temptation to think I know more than I do and to try to "run the show".

Beings to whom God has given true freedom and who He respects enough to be endlessly patient with. For whom He was willing to become man and lay down His life.


Do you think that differs from the universally understood rules of etiquettes? And why?

I'm not sure how much it differs from the asiprations of other religions. It seem "Christian" to me. But one of the reasons I am here is to listen and learn and observe. And certainly a good many of the things that I think of as Christian find a parallel or at least an echo in Islam.

It DOES seem to differ from what people expect sometimes. Sometimes it makes people mad. Sometimes they like it.

How do you apply your way of dealing in the Sabla? Would your way differ if it was in person instead of online?

It's easier online. But I try for it in all parts of my life. Pretty poor at it. But I try.


Remember…your answer will always be compared to your record in the sabla :)

I second Marianna's comment.

The more I read Tea, the stronger and stronger my faith becomes.

I need to sincerely thank Tea for showing me the true beauty of the Catholic faith.

Thank you Tea.

I second Marianna's comment.

The more I read Tea, the stronger and stronger my faith becomes.

I need to sincerely thank Tea for showing me the true beauty of the Catholic faith.

Thank you Tea.

:cute:

That's my pal Wudjab, pugnacious as always! ;)

But you know, however we approach it, there is this thing we Christians share, this thing that's so hard to communicate...

...a secret joy, a hope beyond hope, something that words stumble over, but that is wonderful beyond telling and that puts us beyond the reach of arguments about texts:

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
For I am persuaded, that neither death,
nor life,
nor angels,
nor principalities, nor powers,
nor things present,
nor things to come,
Nor height,
nor depth,
nor any other creature,
shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Thanks Mriana, Um Khalid El Rey and Jeff…

I wanted to see if people realize what they do in the name of the religion or not…it seems the majority of them do or might be too shy to answer :p

Why do you think religion is important in your life?

I admit it must be because of my upbringing.. I still remmber when I was in grade 1 a classmate was bragging about his dad's shop. He said: my dad's shop is bigger then Allah .. and I went: a2aaaaaaaaaaaaaa haraaaaaaaaaaam .. nothing is bigger than allah :)
This is why I think religion should be taught since childhood .. ofcourse at the proper doses .. because it just strengthen thier faith.

Do you think your religion is good or a burden to the non-followers who are also not interested to follow it? and How?

I dont think my religion is a burden on anyone if they strongly beleive in the basics. However, I understand how a non beleiver will not be willing to pray 5 times a day or fast ramadhan .. basicly because they dont beleive in it.

How do you treat others through your religion?
This is a very hard question .. I was raised to respect others no matter what religion or backgroud they come from .. I didnt think it comes from my religion but since my parents are religious I guess it was derived from my religion.
In addition, there is one thing I always beleive in and I treat others accordingly through it. I get what Allah has written for me, so i will not be jelouse of others.

Do you think that differs from the universally understood rules of etiquettes? And why?
In fact, I think its strongly alligned with the universal etiquettes .. In short, Prophet Mohammed :PBUH: said "al deen al mu3amala" (religion is how you treat others)

How do you apply your way of dealing in the Sabla? Would your way differ if it was in person instead of online?

I hope thats evident in how I treat others here. I dont think it differs much on how I treat people outside too.

I never had an issue with others on religion, we would discuss & analyze religions neutrally. Everyone would be eager to learn more & more from the secular spiritual scientific philosophical discussions that we have.

^he's back!

btt...

Why do you think religion is important in your life?
Because it puts me back on track whenever I start to stray.

Do you think your religion is good or a burden to the non-followers who are also not interested to follow it? and How?
I don't think my religion is a burden on anyone because I don't shove it down anybody's throat.

How do you treat others through your religion?
I treat them like I'd treat any other Muslim. It is affected by my upbringing (and religion?), my personality, and how well I know the person I'm dealing with.


Do you think that differs from the universally understood rules of etiquettes? And why?
No it doesn't. There is a long set of guidelines on how to treat others, etc. and I don't think any of it clashes with the universally understood rules of etiquettes.
I've been offered alcoholic beverages and invited to nights out at the pub by friends many times. I politely turn them down, but when they insist, I explain to them why I did so. Some of them don't get it, and I don't really care to be honest. I might be perceived as rude, but there are limits that should be drawn.

How do you apply your way of dealing in the Sabla? Would your way differ if it was in person instead of online?
I really enjoy religious discussions but I prefer them to be in person, which is why I don't participate very often in the religion sabla.