View Full Version : Win-Win // Win-Lose
Endure Whisper 10-04-08, 01:11 AM When you're having a thrilling conversation with someone and both of you have different point of views and want to convince each other, what is the output of most of your conversations?
Are you the kind of person who would end the conversation by accepting their point of views and also share yours (win-win situation)?
OR
Are you the kind of person who has to convince or be convinced about something (win-lose situation)?
I hardly get worked up while talking to people or trying to prove them wrong. I would just say what I think and if they think I am wrong or don't agree with me, it's up to them. I don't care about convincing them.
On the other hand, my husband is into win-lose situations. He has to know the facts by the end of a conversation and make complete sense out of everything. So he goes into details, history, science, Quran, you name the resource just to have a win-lose situation; even if he's the one who loses. At the end of the day, he must have the *right* answer.
What about you?
Dam3eti 10-04-08, 01:15 AM I'm like you, I give my opinion and that's it, I'm not bothered really. Sometimes when I have nothing else to do I would argue longer then eventually find something else to do. I'm not bothered to change people's minds it's up to them in the end.
minerva 10-04-08, 01:16 AM if it's something i feel strongly about, and i know i'm right, i end up winning :D
Hmmm.
By nature, I am an intellectual scrapper. I love to "win".
But I figured out it doesn't do any good...
It isn't worth it.
Much better to TALK and try to find out what the other person thinks and why.
Actually, it can be quite fun to lose an argument!
I remember once having a deep philosophical argument on a blog about some topic or other.
Suddenly, I realized I was wrong.
So, I said, "Oh, I see that I was wrong. Here is what made me realize it and here is the person who convinced me."
:p :p
Stunned silence! Then one guy said: "I've never seen anything like this on the net..."
I still laugh about that.
That's another way of winning, don't you think?
marianna 10-04-08, 01:32 AM I am stubborn. I will hear their point of view however if they do not give me a convincing argument that is in line with with my beliefs then no...I will not accept their point of view but rather would tolerate it.
minerva 10-04-08, 01:37 AM I am stubborn. I will hear their point of view however if they do not give me a convincing argument that is in line with with my beliefs then no...I will not accept their point of view but rather would tolerate it.
me too. it would take a very very strong argument to shake my beleifs.
I love strong willed opinionated ppl, I love hearing opposite points of view and sometimes I'll even accede defeat if I was wrong BUT I just cant keep my mouth shut if I know that person is not being honest or is unreasonably biased. My biggst weakness. Im more of a win-win person - ppl who agree all the time are dreadfully boring
NiGhTFaCe 10-04-08, 04:42 AM I am not that kind of who likes to argue, If I am right so then I will just prove my point. If I am wrong, then I will just accept in silence!
I'm sometimes introduced as the person who no body "can win". As in, I don't accept losing and I have to have the last word. I just think I like debating and showing others why I think I am right or why I think someone else is right, but I recognise an unproductive debate when I see one; if the other side is not willing to see the sense in it all, then I quit trying to convince them.
How about "Let us agree to disagree"?
Many times is depends on who I'm having the conversation with. For example my dad has to always win.. so i rarely argue cos there's no point. He'll just go on and on and on until it becomes ridiculously stupid or he wears me out. So it's usually a conversation and I'd just agree to disagree.
Usually, if it's an argument, I'm going to win it.
Because I won't argue unless I am 99.9% sure I'm right. And in the case that I am wrong, I'll admit it.
5alfanooh 15-04-08, 08:13 AM i am the worst debater and i am so bad in discussion.. I tend to believe am winning no matter how many people disagreeing with me... that way i think i keep positive, but sometimes i think i lose yet keep positive.
Angel_Eyes 15-04-08, 09:46 AM i NEVER give up easily:6: mwahahah...i always win:p
when i am right..i will argue and prove my points with FACTS and i will argue UNTIL the other person agrees:)
lol..
it works 99.99999% of the time...sometimes i let them win so they don't feel bad..i just feel it's good to compromise:)
EvilFire 15-04-08, 12:27 PM Angel_Eyes I think you just defined arrogancy
I’m defiantly a win –win not bothered to argue I’ll just give my opinion if you agree then good for me if you disagree then good for you. Don’t get me wrong I have nothing against a good debate but sometimes it just gets too much I just can’t be bothered.
Endure Whisper 15-04-08, 02:48 PM ^ I understand :yes:
Listen2theOcean 15-04-08, 03:03 PM Its win - win situation when the outcome of it won't effect the way I live. For example,
if my husband thinks wearing face cover is a must in Islam and I think the other way round. I will accept win - win situation, but if according to our conversation I got to cover my face then it is win - lose situation.
Superbia 15-04-08, 05:12 PM I usually state my opinion and never consider others' opinions, and if they don't get convinced I just walk away after trying to tick them off, which happens most of the time :D
Angel_Eyes 16-04-08, 08:24 AM ^lol...it sounds SO YOU! :XD:
evilfire: you don't know what you're talking about...i'm not so bad :rolleyes: once you get to know me...
EvilFire 16-04-08, 11:29 AM ^lol...it sounds SO YOU! :XD:
evilfire: you don't know what you're talking about...i'm not so bad :rolleyes: once you get to know me...
You just stated that you know that your posts make you look bad but you are not in real life.Good to know that...
You said in your post that you basically always 200% right and if you give up an argument just because you wanted and not because you think that you might be wrong some times.So I know what am talking about ^^
I'm stubborn, but I try not to let my stubbornness border on stupidity, by arguing just for the sake of arguing, If I feel that I know what I'm talking about then I state it and it's really up to the others to listen or not, eventually they'll find out I'm right which is the case most of the time really, and if I'm not sure then I listen to other people's point of view with an open mind. People who always want to win, or delude themselves into thinking that they are come across as arrogant and a little childish and immature to be honest.
win-win for me. i just give my opinion, and try to see the sense in what others are saying, if it doesn't make enough sense to me to agree, i'd try to finish the discussion with an 'ok'. if they managed to convince me then i'd tell them they're right. i'm not into trying to prove myself right all the time, tires me to be honest. and i'm not sure i even care. as long as i'm convinced i'm right, i don't see the need for everyone to see eye to eye on everything. just let it go.
oh, unless they were REALLY wrong, and there is just no room for discussion, then i can't help but switch into win-lose mode. :D
Angel_Eyes 17-04-08, 12:23 AM lol whatever ,evilfire..when i am wrong and the other person has proven a good point and they're right, then i will always agree. I always listen first. I'd like to have a discussion rather than throw insults at the other person. It's not like a war!! lol...you're getting me wrong..oh well..:rolleyes:
and if the other person is wrong, then they are just wrong. I don't force my way or opinion on others. :no: never! usually..i try to make it so that we BOTH win..that's the best thing. i'll say something like..."ok, you do this and i'll do that so we're both happy and it'll work out" ..
Libellula 29-04-08, 02:54 AM Depends on how bored I am. Sometimes I actually enjoy a good argument/discussion/debate and will try prove that I'm right. Other times, I'll just express my opinion and that'd be it :)
How bout lose-lose where I go down and take everyone with me.
sameerb1 29-04-08, 01:56 PM if i know about it...i try my best to proving my point..i will dig up every lil detail and show it to em...but if i m not sure...i will just node my head and get along
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