Ok...this thread can be opened to any ladies out there (men can participate also) :p

One frustration I have: I am a single mother when men find out I have a child still living at home they run for the hills. I don't get that mentality. I am a Latin mother. I was raised that my children remain at home until 1. They marry or 2. Have a secure job.

So what is up with this???????????????

My frustration is that I always come 2nd/3rd/last place
I would like to be the Queen of their hearts and mind 24/7 but there's always something more important than me
I dunno

I agree. I had this problem with my ex...when he had his friends over (certain ones) I was like ???? where do I fit in?

oh almost forgot...leaving the toliet seat up argh!!!!!!!!!!! :think::yuk:

that happens but not in my house. he's heard the toilet seat lecture only too many times. better put it down than nag nag nag...

Perhaps they don't want "excess baggage" or someone who is going to be a put above them. Or they just finished raising kids, and they just want to have fun without having to take care of more: my father can't wait for all of us to get married so he can finally rest :p. So if he was to marry another, I doubt he will marry a woman who has young kids or children who did not leave home yet.

For me seems shallow but I guess there are guys out there who don't view kids that way. I know I wouldn't. If I met a guy who had children already and we really had great feelings for one another that developed into love to the point he wants marriage honestly I would not mind about the children and would get to know them. Maybe women and men view children differently.

I am a single mother when men find out I have a child still living at home they run for the hills



I've come across some men in Oman that go for the 2nd wife that is relatively young & they don't mind raising their children either, should they be widowed or divorcee

Depends on what sort of a relation those men are looking forward to have with you

If that is something the woman wants fine but for me I would prefer one man one woman and yes, does depend on what the man wants and for me you can spot a bad apple esp. when you have kids.

Marianna, a man either wants to:

1- Marry the lady

2- Have sex with her without being committed to her

In which situation he would avoid a woman with a kid?

I think #2 because a man who really cares for a woman would wait for the sex until after marriage. If he wants to marry her it is because he loves her and will do his best to be involved in the child's life.

I got two kids and don't want anymore. Not mine, not anyone elses. So, I can understand a guy who's had his kids and doesn't want to take on someone else with kids. I wouldn't either. Maybe it's selfish.. maybe not. But I can completely understand it.

And if you think leaving the seat up is horrible, try having a guy who pisses while leaving the seat down. Believe me, when you think things are f**ked up, remember, they can always be worse.


My frustration with the male species is many don't listen. They can hear ya.. but they don't LISTEN. If only they realised that this is why many women nag or shout in the first place.

Another.. men who are insecure and feel like they have to push their partners down into the ground to feel better themselves. (am sure there are women who do it too.. but most women will accept the fact that their man is maybe smarter without feeling insecure about it.)

My frustration with the male species is many don't listen. They can hear ya.. but they don't LISTEN.

http://lifesatrip.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/reading-the-newspaper.jpg

"Uh-huh...uh-huh...mmm...uh-huh..."

Amen on the don't listen esp. when sports is on. You could come in the room lookin' all sexy and all that but if sports is on NO way Jose. :D

^ Sometimes they LOOK at you and even NOD. But when you say: So what do you think? at the end. They would panic, sit up straight and go: Well, I'm not sure what you mean.

That's when I become sure that they were not listening, saying "I'm not sure what you mean" is just a clever way of making us repeat the whoooole story in the shortest way ever.

Yes...I have seen that allot. am like (ahhh rolling the eyes)..........

^ Sometimes they LOOK at you and even NOD. But when you say: So what do you think? at the end. They would panic, sit up straight and go: Well, I'm not sure what you mean.

That's when I become sure that they were not listening, saying "I'm not sure what you mean" is just a clever way of making us repeat the whoooole story in the shortest way ever.

Hey, Billy does this all the time.

Study the eyes and nip it in the bud before you waste too much breath. :p

Aaaah! Clever Billy! :p
You can't catch them when they do it, or don't want to, because when they panic they give you FULL attention. And that's the thing you were looking for.

getting kids' attention is the hardest part of the lesson. so i start off with an anecdote or a game. at home if i want to lecture my kids, i try make it interesting (by putting a reward in or something) same as what i do at school.

My husband REALLY ticks me off..

"So how was your day.."

"Well, I went shopping and I went round and round to park.. couldn't find a spot .. it was raining and every where was jam packed with cars.. and as I drove into.."

"ok ok ok.. can you like hurry up and get to the end bit?"

"......."

"well?"


"My day was fine. Thanks for asking."

My husband REALLY ticks me off..

"So how was your day.."

"Well, I went shopping and I went round and round to park.. couldn't find a spot .. it was raining and every where was jam packed with cars.. and as I drove into.."

"ok ok ok.. can you like hurry up and get to the end bit?"

"......."

"well?"


"My day was fine. Thanks for asking."
my husband....

how was your day...

'i got an email from so and so from this so and so country telling me about this so and so contract, then i had to go down to it because of so and so software, then i went for a smoke with x,y and z, had coffee with two sugars, then went for a pee, then i had a board meeting and we were discussing (insert difficult technical term which i can't even remember) and it lasted four hours. then i went back to my desk drone drone drone'

great substitute for a sleeping pill :hyper:

oh no min.. i'm the one doing the explaining.. I don't usually even get THAT far.

He's the one who asks because it's like.. compulsory to ask. He's wants the headlines not the news.

Guys are no worse for leaving the toilet seat up, than girls are for leaving it down.

But realizing that you just sat down NOT on the toilet seat :o is horrific indeed and for that I empathize.

I have sat down on the toilet when the seat was up. The seat cover was meant to be down that is why it was built so our fannies don't fall in. Men just need to aim better or sit down when they errrr go.

Hmmmmmmmmmm............Maybe men's and women's toilets should be created or be like the Japanese and have those automatic seat covers that go down...those are awesome!!

Another pet peeve I have is when clothing is left all over like we are the "maid" to pick it up....duh no thank you darlin'.......not your mama.

it's bad manners to leave the toilet seat up and bad feng shui.

Another pet peeve I have is when clothing is left all over like we are the "maid" to pick it up....duh no thank you darlin'.......not your mama.


But it is so cute when a woman does women's work. Ha Ha Ha. :6:

But it is so cute when a woman does women's work. Ha Ha Ha. :6:
yeah like nag him to death when he wees all over the seat.

yeah hahahahahahaaaaaa

yeah like nag him to death when he wees all over the seat.

That's why the man controls the remote, so he can turn the volume up. :p

What difference it will make if the toilet seat is up or down ? I can't believe that couples quarrel for silly things like this :os

That's why the man controls the remote, so he can turn the volume up. :p

haha good one. 2/1 now.

Couples do quarrel though even about how the toothpaste is squeezed due to the fact something more serious is going on. That is why communication is so very important. Score. No I mean: "GOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!"

Men eat like ducks. It amazes me. I have closely watched many while they eat, and most of the time I don't see any chewing action going on. Just lots of swallowing.

They also eat ALOT! I'll have two slices of pizza, maximum is three while a guy will eat an entire large pizza in addition to the rest of mine O_O

Men eat like ducks. It amazes me. I have closely watched many while they eat, and most of the time I don't see any chewing action going on. Just lots of swallowing.

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They also eat ALOT! I'll have two slices of pizza, maximum is three while a guy will eat an entire large pizza in addition to the rest of mine O_O

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Men eat like ducks. It amazes me. I have closely watched many while they eat, and most of the time I don't see any chewing action going on. Just lots of swallowing.

They also eat ALOT! I'll have two slices of pizza, maximum is three while a guy will eat an entire large pizza in addition to the rest of mine O_O

Because they work hard all times.

^ i must agree with you, working hard to attain that huge beer belly is totally hard work. i sympathize.. :rolleyes:

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men are too simple minded compared to my complexity, that's why i'm always frustrated with them.

Can we say what frustrates us about female species here ? :rolleyes:

men are too simple minded compared to my complexity, that's why i'm always frustrated with them.

Yah I agree with this because women can't explain well, that's why men don't get what they mean. I experienced this

El Rey we can start a thread of What is Frustrating About the Female Species. Go for it. :)

Can we say what frustrates us about female species here ? :rolleyes:

open a thread about it! :)


I think communication is good between couples.
At times I think they just go OVER board really.

Like fighting over TV and how you should eat and drink blah blah blah.
I mean, fighting over TV is NOT a big deal... She has the remote and she wants to watch then let her watch BUT she has to give you the remote sometimes. (which is usually the case since one of the them keeps it for themselves...)

Eating depends on how you were raised and learned. You can't MAKE him/her change in 1 day. And as for eating a lot it depends on what s/he eats and how MUCH they ate before. (like me, at times i eat no breakfast or lunch and for dinner I would eat 1 large pizza by myself... so what?)

That sometimes when you are introduced to a guy and for some reason he is not looking at your face. I just wanna say: "Pssst - dude, my face is up here!". Talk about indecency.

^
I am a guy.. and I HATE that!
I mean.. GOD... You have mothers, sisters and aunts!
You look at their FACES and not their bodies!

(and if you do you need SERIOUS help...)

True...it is like do you have a neck or back problem. Sometimes I will say: "Dude, what is the color of my eyes?"

^
Guy: Ahhhhhhh... i think black... why?


They always look down.. believe me... When I am with my friends at times I just get fed up and leave! (If I can call them friends...)

I saw a man wearing a t-shirt the other day that said "tell your tits to stop staring at my eyes". Crude, but I must admit i laughed.

Actually, I live by myself most of the time and am, as far as I can tell, a man. But I always put the toilet seat down, and the cover too. It just looks tidier? And shouldn't that thing have its cover on most of the time? It's there for a reason!

Anyway, I just wanted to protest about the "men-not-listening" thing. You girls are not understanding. Your brain-wiring allows you to watch four children running in different directions, make sure the stew doesn't boil over, chat to your friend (about what a jerk your husband is), and listen for marauding beasts that might come from the forest. That's YOU.

WE have a different set up. Man-brain is a single task unit, designed to focus on and calculate the speed and distance of the rump of a running dear (or walking woman), before throwing the spear/chat up line as appropriate. IF Mr You is watching the match, cutting his fingernails, or just picking up some soup on his spoon, he is focussed, and ears are effectively disabled to other intereference. Othere interference in this instance is YOU.

Now, that's not a value judgement on you. It's just a matter of timing. So if you want to be heard, just make sure the eyes are focussed on you before you start speaking - easy as that. If they are not, then when you shout from the kitchen or launch into a two hour critical analysis of next-door's new curtains, you will at best get a reflex grunt in response. It's not you, or him. It's Creation. So suck it up!

Actually Mimosa a study was done regarding exactly what you described how women tend to think in a circular pattern while men think linear i.e. men think A+B+C=D and part of it is due to evolution. I learned this in a graduate level sociology class in college. Now if we could all just get along (a'la Rodney King).......... :D

I saw a man wearing a t-shirt the other day that said "tell your tits to stop staring at my eyes". Crude, but I must admit i laughed.

Actually, I live by myself most of the time and am, as far as I can tell, a man. But I always put the toilet seat down, and the cover too. It just looks tidier? And shouldn't that thing have its cover on most of the time? It's there for a reason!

Anyway, I just wanted to protest about the "men-not-listening" thing. You girls are not understanding. Your brain-wiring allows you to watch four children running in different directions, make sure the stew doesn't boil over, chat to your friend (about what a jerk your husband is), and listen for marauding beasts that might come from the forest. That's YOU.

WE have a different set up. Man-brain is a single task unit, designed to focus on and calculate the speed and distance of the rump of a running dear (or walking woman), before throwing the spear/chat up line as appropriate. IF Mr You is watching the match, cutting his fingernails, or just picking up some soup on his spoon, he is focussed, and ears are effectively disabled to other intereference. Othere interference in this instance is YOU.

Now, that's not a value judgement on you. It's just a matter of timing. So if you want to be heard, just make sure the eyes are focussed on you before you start speaking - easy as that. If they are not, then when you shout from the kitchen or launch into a two hour critical analysis of next-door's new curtains, you will at best get a reflex grunt in response. It's not you, or him. It's Creation. So suck it up!
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What was that again..?

And this time, can you, like, summarise? please?

Ok. I'll even put my fork down while I read it.


:hyper:

men think they r always right.. n when we suggest whts better.. it takes them a zillion years to admit that we were right:p

yes...the male "pride" almost like a saving face kind of thing. At times makes me want to climb all wall, any wall. Just bring it to me.

Do it Yourself ... aka DIY.

More like Destroy it Yourself...

Actually, I live by myself most of the time and am, as far as I can tell, a man. But I always put the toilet seat down, and the cover too. It just looks tidier? And shouldn't that thing have its cover on most of the time? It's there for a reason!

Come on! Every man knows that the only reason for putting the toilet cover down is to stop alligators from climbing out of the sewer!!!

And since with our ever alert and keen senses, we would immediately hear the alligator splashing onto the the bathroom floor and scrabbling at the porcelain we don't need to be too particular about capping the john. Any alligators snout their way into our castles and we would them over the head and put them in with a load of laundry to see if they could survive.

Let's see...green is a light, isn't it? Or is it a white?

The inherent need for them to control everything ;

-why are you wearing that top?
- Why are you flying with this airline and not that?
- Why are you going out with X?
- Why are you buying this brand?
- Why did you tell this person this?
- Why did you call an electrician,, you're wasting money. I know how to do it! :rolleyes:

....etc and etc. And it is non of their business since you not really doing anything wrong but yeah, the need for them to be in control sometimes is too much.

90% of the frustrations stated here are post marriage.
So I guess I don't frustrate anyone till now :D
I'm a happy BEE

oh and guys who don't look at girls when introduced is because they are genuinely shy of the girls, they're not mean or anything and they respect the girls.
I respect women, infact I respect them so much that I completely stay away from them!

What used to frustrate me when i was in school was how the girls used to spend breaks talking about nothing other than boys and boyfriends. euhh. It's like boys where this great mystery and so the girls would huddle around the few who did have boyfriends to listen to the 'stories'... day after day after day after day.. how booring.

Change girls to boys.... HATE this!
I mean don't people have a life?
girls and guys are not EVERYTHING!

I thought this was funny:

So, any of the male people out there want to comment on this factoid?

Having a husband creates an extra seven hours of housework each week for women, according to a new study. For men, tying the knot saves an hour of weekly chores.


If marriage relieves a man of one hour of chores per week and adds seven hours to the woman's burden, what conclusion does Occam's Razor demand? Obviously, men are seven times more productive at household chores than women.

Those of you who see flaws in my reasoning should discuss in the comments.

http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2008/04/math-problem.html

I don't like it if I am on a first date with a guy and they act like they are going to pay but then when the bill comes they "fake" not being able to read the bill and show it to me...I am thinking: "UH....are you trying to hint at something here?" I always offered to go dutch because that is just me but don't pull that crap by showing me the bill when you offer to pay in the first place. To me that is plain tacky.

Maybe because the wives are picking up after their husbands like little children. My dad was infamous at leaving his stuff around and it drove my mother nuts. If a man wants a mama live at home. If you want an equal partner then marry and share in the chores.

I don't like it if I am on a first date with a guy and they act like they are going to pay but then when the bill comes they "fake" not being able to read the bill and show it to me...I am thinking: "UH....are you trying to hint at something here?" I always offered to go dutch because that is just me but don't pull that crap by showing me the bill when you offer to pay in the first place. To me that is plain tacky.

Good grief! :o

I must just live in a bubble. Do men really do things like that?

Dating is too hard. I mentally forgave this guy but he did it again twice more and I was like screw this. He can find a pansy who will accept that kind of behavior.

We always hear "the rules" from the female side. Now here are the rules
from the male side. These are our rules! Please note ... these are
all numbered '1' ON PURPOSE!

1. Learn to work the toilet seat. You're a big girl. If it's up, put
it down. We need it up, you need it down. You don't hear us
complaining about you leaving it down.

1. Shopping is NOT a sport. And no, we are never going to think of
it that way.

1. Crying is blackmail.

1. Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints
do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints do not work! Just say it!

1. Yes, and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question.

1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it.
That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.

1. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.

1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument.
In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 days.

1. If you won't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect
us to act like soap opera guys.

1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us.

1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the
ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one.

1. You can either ask us to do something or tell us how you want it
done. Not both. If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself.

1. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say
during commercials.

1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. Peach,
for example, is a fruit, not a color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have
no idea what mauve is.

1. If it itches, it will be scratched. We do that.

1. If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing," we will act
like nothing's wrong. We know you are lying, but it is just not worth
the hassle.

1. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an
answer you don't want to hear.

1. You have enough clothes.

1. You have too many shoes.

1. I am in shape. Round is a shape.

1. Thank you for reading this; Yes, I know, I have to sleep on the
couch tonight, but did you know men really don't mind that, it's like
camping.


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i got this as a forward :)

my frustrations:

-just because they are the man, they think they are automatically the boss! :bored:
-They think they know more and that they are right and you are wrong.
-They don't believe in a woman's intuition.
-they realize how sensitive women are and they just blurt things out anyway and wonder why we are upset or why we cry!! :angry:
-they hear you but they don't listen.
-they don't understand your point or what's really your heart.
-they don't praise or compliment enough :bored:
-they don't say "i love you" enough.


ummm..that's all i can think of for now..
maybe will be back later but those i mentioned are what tick me off and frustrate me.

They say things but mean something else

I don't like it if I am on a first date with a guy and they act like they are going to pay but then when the bill comes they "fake" not being able to read the bill and show it to me...I am thinking: "UH....are you trying to hint at something here?" I always offered to go dutch because that is just me but don't pull that crap by showing me the bill when you offer to pay in the first place. To me that is plain tacky. arghhhhhh its one of the hint that u r dating the wrong guy..i wouldnt waste time & energy

my frustrations:

-just because they are the man, they think they are automatically the boss! :bored:
-They think they know more and that they are right and you are wrong.
-They don't believe in a woman's intuition.
-they realize how sensitive women are and they just blurt things out anyway and wonder why we are upset or why we cry!! :angry:
-they hear you but they don't listen.
-they don't understand your point or what's really your heart.
-they don't praise or compliment enough :bored:
-they don't say "i love you" enough.


ummm..that's all i can think of for now..
maybe will be back later but those i mentioned are what tick me off and frustrate me.

-because the term MAN = Boss
-ofcourse we know more, we've seen it all!
-because it leads to accidents
-because you talk too much, someway to shut you up!
-we want to complete watching what's on in the TV
-i din't understand this!
-cuz everyone else praises u, we dont cuz we stick out of the crowd!
-here u go "I Love You"!!

- I don't like how they automatically switch off when in front of the TV and it's like you don't even exist until the game is over!

- Also, when they don't do something they said they will - ie call, pick up something from the grocery store, etc

Sometimes I am soooooooooooooooooo glad to be single.

one thing that really pissed me off :

once u r away from home for one reason or another they will start looking for a replacement >>.. from my experince !!!:mmhmm:

Sometimes I am soooooooooooooooooo glad to be single.

i realised that am always glad to be single , i don't care wht might men think :zzz:

-because the term MAN = Boss
-ofcourse we know more, we've seen it all!
-because it leads to accidents
-because you talk too much, someway to shut you up!
-we want to complete watching what's on in the TV
-i din't understand this!
-cuz everyone else praises u, we dont cuz we stick out of the crowd!
-here u go "I Love You"!!

MR KNOW IT ALL !!!! :Sick:

^LOOOOL give him the benefit of the doubt :rolleyes:

yea me kn it all, so dat all was true!

^aha...sure :)