I wanted to have your opinion about this subject. I had a lil' discussion with Pizzaz about it :

yes a waste of time ! :bored:
seriously, what does it bring you ?
i mean here in france ?

Well, when you tell a woman you want to marry her, it shows to what extent you love her, you're promising her to live the rest of your life with her by marrying her. yah?

so marriage is a proof of love ?
i don't think so..
it's not because you don't want to marry someone that you don't love her ..
http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52905&page=28

So I wanted to have your views about this topic "Is marriage a proof of love?"


i think there are lot of way to express your love, and marriage is just... useless :rolleyes:

Nop. Marriage isn't useless. It's an organizing factor of expressing our love physically, or sexually if I may say. Yeah, you can also express that without marriage, but it would just be absolutely chaotic.

What you mean is you need to be married to express physical love. But, to me it's different, i don't need to be married for that, i guess that's why i don't see the use of it ..

Yes, that is what I meant, but I wasn't saying it from an Islamic perspective. Just from a general, logical perspective. Also, I personally do think that marriage IS a good & strong proof of love. What else can proof your love better ?

If you're not ready to get involved in such a serious commitment, then you're just proofing to your love that you don't love them enough to get involved in such a commitment. If you are able and ready to take it, you are proofing how much you love them.

^ well said :yes:

It's the ultimate proof of love, to declare yourself openly to the world that you belong to only one person and will treasure that person for the rest of your life by becoming husband and wife.

There are many ways but in the end marriage shows long term commitment, you respect the person and you want to live with the blessing of God and especially if you choose to have children with the person best to be married and children are also a nice visible proof of this love.

i think there are lot of way to express your love, and marriage is just... useless :rolleyes:

Yeah pretty much. Sign a contract with the government to prove love, how romantic :love:

So basically, if you don't marry the girl you don't love her ?! (out of religious perspectives)

Marriage is a legal binding contract and nothing more. What you make out of a marriage is what counts when it comes to love.

Nico, in your position you simply need to see if, legally, you are better off being married to the woman you love and want kids with or not. Like when it comes to tax, inheritance, custody of children etc etc.. depends what your laws state about that.

Marriage is so much more than a legal contract! And it is the absolute proof of love. It is a promise to love and cherish only that woman til the end of time. The ultimate proof of love is committment. How else can you prove that youre committed without marriage? How can you prove your love? Perhaps you are confusing showing love and proving love? Sure there are millions of ways to show you love someone but only marriage proves it.

Being a "girlfriend" doesnt even come close to the security and confidence that being a wife provides. Sounds to me like youre just a little bit of commitment phobe? (PS women feel safer and thus sexier in a committed relationship - ie marriage) Mmmmmm makes you think huh?:yes:

Marriage is legal and is the only way Muslims can live with their partners and have kids. But I don't believe it's a proof of love! Some people use marriage as a business activity "Marry my daughter and I'll make you rich" or "I'll marry him and make sure I inherent everything he's got" LOL! So no it's not a proof of love, but it is the only way Muslims can create families normally and be accepted by their families and societies.

I agree with Fengy, it is an "organizing factor". You might have kids with the woman you love, but they won't be recognized legally as a "family", if you guys are not married. If anything happens between the two of you, there is no way for the law to intervene and clean up the mess. With marriages, there are laws to govern the relationships more extensively than without one - more rights for one another, methods of inheritance and custody etc.

I do agree that marriage to a certain extent is not a proof of love - at least very rarely in our part of the world. Marriage here can be for reasons such as the guy wanting to settle down - he doesn't really love the girl but she is suitable. In this case, the marriage is not about the ultimate proof of love, but a proof that the man desires to have a family of his own.

However, most of the time love does blossom from marriage. And nowadays, the more you are committed to your marriage (the longer), the more love you've for one another. And it just happens that the thought of divorce is not even option because you guys cherish one another so much and don't want to lose what you have. {---to me, this is the ultimate proof of love: that you can't function without one another and even if you had the choice to leave them and marry somebody else, you won't and you will choose them over anybody else every time :hmm:

I am not saying that there have not been love stories here when the man couldn't wait to marry a girl he loved because he adores her to death and just wants to make her his - publicly and officially. To me, that could be the ultimate proof of love, but sometimes it is also about "lust". Remember, he could not do anything with her before marriage, so now he is marrying her so all is permissible.

I can't promise that when I get married and when my husband marries me, it is going to be "the ultimate proof of our love", but perhaps if we stick to the marriage for a couple of years and if I had the option to leave him after that with everything I want, yet I didn't. Perhaps the reason I stayed or the gesture is "the ultimate proof of love" I've for him.

Marriage is so much more than a legal contract! And it is the absolute proof of love. It is a promise to love and cherish only that woman til the end of time. The ultimate proof of love is committment. How else can you prove that youre committed without marriage? How can you prove your love? Perhaps you are confusing showing love and proving love? Sure there are millions of ways to show you love someone but only marriage proves it.

Being a "girlfriend" doesnt even come close to the security and confidence that being a wife provides. Sounds to me like youre just a little bit of commitment phobe? (PS women feel safer and thus sexier in a committed relationship - ie marriage) Mmmmmm makes you think huh?:yes:

With a nickname like hijabi, I suppose you are muslim.

In which case you got that bit up there wrong. ;)

Being a wife, tying a man down with marriage doesn't mean he can't get away. You see, because contrary to what you said, I believe commitment is not something you can bring about by signing a paper. Making a commitment is something someone chooses to make and stick to and there is no need for a legal contract for that.

It's like I promise you something.. but you say.. "eh! I want it down on paper and I want witnesses!" :mmhmm: So.. is it a lack of trust on your part? A lack of confidence? etc etc..

In the end remember it's not a marriage certificate that keeps two people together. Either one could leave if they wanted to.

Why does one need "proof" of love anyway?

If love is there, you'll feel it. You don't need anyone to prove it for you, unless you are in constant doubt.

I think a question worth asking ourselves is .. can you stop loving someone? Can you fall out of love? Or is love ever lasting?

Because, if you can fall out of love .. stop loving someone who's turned cold and mean.. then what's the point of proving you love them? What exactly does it prove? That you love them NOW?

:hmm:

I think one can feel someone else love them by the little things they do.. not the huge showy bombastic ones. But by the insignificant "I don't feel like doing that but I will for you" ones. That's what keeps people together for years and years.

I think this whole idea of love is overrated. It's not as sparkly and dreamy as one imagines.

^^As usual, very well said! Spread the awareness and wisdom :p

Well.. its not black and white, is it?
I mean, if someone couldn't marry his beloved due to some serious reasons.. that doesn't "Nessecarily" mean that they don't love each other.
On the other hand, getting married doesn't "Nessecarily" mean these two are in love.
In addition to that, it comes traditional, social, cultural value and others give a value to the meaning of marriage.

Hence, personally I think the "intention to marry someone" because you love her is a proof of love. Then marriage it self is just public declaration and recognition of the relationship in order to be legalised and justified both socially and religiously.

marriage is not the proof of love.
it gives you social security though. you don't need a piece of paper to show you love another person.

I don't look at marriage as a piece of paper or a way of ordering society to be honest. Couples in most western cultures can now live together all their lives without being married and it's ok. However, most don't. They get married in the end. It's because marriage is a way of saying that "I have commited myself to your for the rest of my life", and I see that as a pretty good way of proving how much you love a person.

Perhaps that is not so with the Arab culture though, I do agree with that. However, most people these days marry out of love, rather than it being a sort of deal or something.

what about those couples who fall in love after marriage?
honestly i find it very hard to fall in love with a person without having spent quiet time alone with them to talk about things personal. and i don't mean unclothed.

marriage is not necessarily proof of love, its proof of reaching you goal and Marrying the one you love. So its an accomplishment really. A satisfaction guaranteed accomplishment

Satisfaction guaranteed?

:hyper:

Don't be disillusioned. Nothing is guaranteed.

satisfaction of getting married, not necessarily what comes after marriage

Being in love, falling in love and actually loving someone are totally different concepts. Falling in love/ being in love are fleeting emotions or in some cases urges. Loving someone means that you unconditionally - bad hair days, hairy toes et al love that person. Its much deeper and longer lasting than the dizzy, butterflies in yr tummy falling in love feeling. Sure even in a marriage anyone can walk out at any time, but its not about having a quick escape route, an easy way out its about a public committment, its about the respect that comes with the title - spouse. Whether its tradition, religion or just society in general the fact remains that a spouse is more respected (socially) than a girlfriend. And that holds true for anywhere in the world.
But i digress - Soooo to get back to the point - i still say marriage is proof of love. :angel:It entails a lot more trust than "Well, gee honey I trust you wont leave me, that you'll be faithful and that this will work out" Its a legal and public statement that you both promise each other that thru thick and thin, richer or poorer blah blah you will both continue to love each other for eternity. No guarantees - just love and trust in each other. Marriage doesnt guarantee that your spouse will love you and be faithful but it is a public declaration of your promise to try your best. It ensures some level of accountability. Living together has no such committment. Either way it takes work to keep the love alive - married or not.

Ps Thalia, I may be muslim but in my house its one and only for eternity! ;) Kinda a til death do us part scenario - you know, if another appears one of us will be dead:hyper:

lol @ Thalia. :p

well, honestly? i think the only reason why i'd want to be married is because of religion. being committed to someone and wanting to spend the rest of your life with can be done without being married. i kinda agree that it gives you social security and the terms husband and wife are more scared than girlfriend/boyfriend in almost all cultures. but that doesn't mean you can't raise a family and live happily ever after without being married.

the only reason why marriage is a proof of love is because actions speak louder than words, you can say: 'i wanna spend the rest of my life with you' and probably manage to stick to your words, but when you tie the knot it shows how much you're committed to the one you love..of course it can all crumble and you end up with a divorce, so being married to someone doesn't necessarily mean you'll be committed to them for the rest of your life, there is always room for cheating in a relationship whether it's marriage or any other form of a long-term relationship..when someone cheats, i don't think they would have the thought 'she's not my wife, she's just a girlfriend i'm fully committed to.' in their minds, cheating is cheating.

and on a side note: marrying someone just because they're suitable for you never makes sense to me. i just can not marry someone without falling in love with them first..i just can't.. but to each his own i suppose.

I know Im a little off topic here but I just had to share these quotes on marriage.

Marrying for love may be a bit risky, but it is so honest that God can't help but smile on it. Josh Billings

Love is temporary insanity curable by marriage.- Ambrose Bierce

Whatever you may look like, marry a man your own age - as your beauty fades, so will his eyesight. - Phyllis Diller

When a man opens the door of his car for his wife, you can be sure of one thing: either the car is new or the wife is.

When asked why a confirmed bachelor had remained single for so long the man admitted : Im like a Panda bear....... I just cant mate in captivity.
:hyper::D

Being in love, falling in love and actually loving someone are totally different concepts. Falling in love/ being in love are fleeting emotions or in some cases urges. Loving someone means that you unconditionally - bad hair days, hairy toes et al love that person. Its much deeper and longer lasting than the dizzy, butterflies in yr tummy falling in love feeling. Sure even in a marriage anyone can walk out at any time, but its not about having a quick escape route, an easy way out its about a public committment, its about the respect that comes with the title - spouse. Whether its tradition, religion or just society in general the fact remains that a spouse is more respected (socially) than a girlfriend. And that holds true for anywhere in the world.
But i digress - Soooo to get back to the point - i still say marriage is proof of love. :angel:It entails a lot more trust than "Well, gee honey I trust you wont leave me, that you'll be faithful and that this will work out" Its a legal and public statement that you both promise each other that thru thick and thin, richer or poorer blah blah you will both continue to love each other for eternity. No guarantees - just love and trust in each other. Marriage doesnt guarantee that your spouse will love you and be faithful but it is a public declaration of your promise to try your best. It ensures some level of accountability. Living together has no such committment. Either way it takes work to keep the love alive - married or not.

Ps Thalia, I may be muslim but in my house its one and only for eternity! ;) Kinda a til death do us part scenario - you know, if another appears one of us will be dead:hyper:
Ok.. you explained it better here and I can't say I disagree.. about the legal public statement, social respect etc..


And I'm with you on the "one of us will end up dead" bit.. :hyper:

I know Im a little off topic here but I just had to share these quotes on marriage.

Marrying for love may be a bit risky, but it is so honest that God can't help but smile on it. Josh Billings

Love is temporary insanity curable by marriage.- Ambrose Bierce

Whatever you may look like, marry a man your own age - as your beauty fades, so will his eyesight. - Phyllis Diller

When a man opens the door of his car for his wife, you can be sure of one thing: either the car is new or the wife is.

When asked why a confirmed bachelor had remained single for so long the man admitted : Im like a Panda bear....... I just cant mate in captivity.
:hyper::D
Good ones.. :hyper:

someone here had a good quote in their signature about marriage.. If I remember who had it.. or if someone else does.. quote it pls. :D

I think it was this:

"Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence"

friend told me that they keep their marriage fresh by going out two nights a week for dinner...
So he goes on Tuesday..
And she goes on Wednesday!!

Nah thats jst a joke :D:p:D

wow so many replies...

i DO believe that marrige is a proof of love, in MOST cases...

yah here, in the arab muslim countries, some people get married just for the sake of getting married...

but mostly, when u tell someone, u wanna marry her/him, it means that ur so in love with that person, that ur ready to be exclusively for them...

and about inheritance and taxes whatever, getting married to solve these problems, means u love the person in such a way u want him/her to be ur inheritor....

Marriege in very simple terms is when two people agree to involve on a long lasting relationship binding the two of them together. Where each vows to love the partner and spend the rest of their lives with him/her. And never to go around on cheet. These vows are normally made in a cerimony where witnesses in other words guests attend to honor this great cerimony in which its program differs from one culture to the other in the end the aim, the goal or the purpose shall i say remains the same, a long life bond between two. Now unless you love your partner you wouldnt want to make such a long term bond with him/her.

If your truely and honestly are in love with your partner and without a single doubt promise to make her/him the one and only in your life. Then your up for that kind of bond

Otherwise NicoBambi its a waste of time like you rightly mentioned

i stick to wat i said

I don't think it's proof per se, but I would be more inclined to believe that a guy loved me if he married me, rather than snuck around with me behind my parents' backs. Basically, by marrying me, he's showing me that he wants to make a lifelong commitment to me, and also that he respects me enough to want to do things the "right" way.

Marriage is so much more than a legal contract! And it is the absolute proof of love. It is a promise to love and cherish only that woman til the end of time. The ultimate proof of love is committment. How else can you prove that youre committed without marriage? How can you prove your love? Perhaps you are confusing showing love and proving love? Sure there are millions of ways to show you love someone but only marriage proves it.

Being a "girlfriend" doesnt even come close to the security and confidence that being a wife provides. Sounds to me like youre just a little bit of commitment phobe? (PS women feel safer and thus sexier in a committed relationship - ie marriage) Mmmmmm makes you think huh?:yes:
As i said, if you're talking about physical love, I don't need to get married for that ... And it's done since a while for my case..:rolleyes:

I agree with Fengy, it is an "organizing factor". You might have kids with the woman you love, but they won't be recognized legally as a "family", if you guys are not married. If anything happens between the two of you, there is no way for the law to intervene and clean up the mess. With marriages, there are laws to govern the relationships more extensively than without one - more rights for one another, methods of inheritance and custody etc.

I do agree that marriage to a certain extent is not a proof of love - at least very rarely in our part of the world. Marriage here can be for reasons such as the guy wanting to settle down - he doesn't really love the girl but she is suitable. In this case, the marriage is not about the ultimate proof of love, but a proof that the man desires to have a family of his own.

However, most of the time love does blossom from marriage. And nowadays, the more you are committed to your marriage (the longer), the more love you've for one another. And it just happens that the thought of divorce is not even option because you guys cherish one another so much and don't want to lose what you have. {---to me, this is the ultimate proof of love: that you can't function without one another and even if you had the choice to leave them and marry somebody else, you won't and you will choose them over anybody else every time :hmm:

I am not saying that there have not been love stories here when the man couldn't wait to marry a girl he loved because he adores her to death and just wants to make her his - publicly and officially. To me, that could be the ultimate proof of love, but sometimes it is also about "lust". Remember, he could not do anything with her before marriage, so now he is marrying her so all is permissible.

I can't promise that when I get married and when my husband marries me, it is going to be "the ultimate proof of our love", but perhaps if we stick to the marriage for a couple of years and if I had the option to leave him after that with everything I want, yet I didn't. Perhaps the reason I stayed or the gesture is "the ultimate proof of love" I've for him.
Well, here we have something else called "PACS" it gives you (legally) the 'right' than married couples.. but you're not married, you just sign a paper. And it's easier if you want to "un-pacs" than to divorced .. here when you divorce it costs you a lot :os

i can have my own family without being married
i can have physical love without being married
i can take "pacs" instead of marriage
i don't think marriage is the ultimate proof of love ..

Why should i get married then ? other than giving 'satisfaction' to my beloved..

^I agree with Nico, other than religious restrictions there is no need for anyone to get married. To me marriage is just a romantic gesture, the thought of marriage as a proof of love never crossed my mind. However, since I'm Muslim I'll have to get married in order to have a family and live with the person I love. So basically it's like the next step to take to continue the relationship.

Yes, marriage is a proof of love.

Marriage is a proof that you are losing your money sooner or later :bored:

Marriage is a title for your status, you can be married. But, not really in love.



NicoBambi, for your case if you wanted to get married, do you pay dowry?! Because if you don't, so then I don't see the reason why not to make it official?! :p

Yes, marriage is a proof of love.
Tell us why ..

Marriage is a proof that you are losing your money sooner or later :bored:

Marriage is a title for your status, you can be married. But, not really in love.



NicoBambi, for your case if you wanted to get married, do you pay dowry?! Because if you don't, so then I don't see the reason why not to make it official?! :p
Why yes you have to pay a lot when it's official lol
plus you need to invite everyone .. to much hassle lol :p

Marriege in very simple terms is when two people agree to involve on a long lasting relationship binding the two of them together. Where each vows to love the partner and spend the rest of their lives with him/her. If your truely and honestly are in love with your partner and without a single doubt promise to make her/him the one and only in your life. Then your up for that kind of bond

Otherwise NicoBambi its a waste of time like you rightly mentioned


That is how I feel about marriage....it adds a higher level to the relationship. You can be with someone for years and one day they leave but for me I would think marriage should be the culmination of that love. Of course everyone has their own opinion on love and marriage but this is mine. :cute:

Marriage means I belong to you 100% and you belong to me 100%. I live for you and you live for me. We two have become one.

It's not a social arrangement, it's total self-giving.

I think that's the meaning of romantic love, that's what it points to and that's what it promises. So, in that sense, marriage is proof of love. It's really the embodiment of love.

I guess you were better changing the title to:
"Does Marriage Kill Love?"

Since it's not the topic, no. ;)

As i said, if you're talking about physical love, I don't need to get married for that ... And it's done since a while for my case..:rolleyes:


Well, here we have something else called "PACS" it gives you (legally) the 'right' than married couples.. but you're not married, you just sign a paper. And it's easier if you want to "un-pacs" than to divorced .. here when you divorce it costs you a lot :os

i can have my own family without being married
i can have physical love without being married
i can take "pacs" instead of marriage
i don't think marriage is the ultimate proof of love ..

Why should i get married then ? other than giving 'satisfaction' to my beloved..'

Im not even going to get started on why "pacs" is oh so very very wrong..... we'll just skip that for now.

About you being a family actually you cant be a family.. Family is defined as A family consists of a domestic group of people (or a number of domestic groups), typically affiliated by birth or marriage, adoption, surname and (in some cases) ownership (as occurred in the Roman ...) So unless shes your sister or your wife you arent family. And the child will also not be your family as the child will not bear your name

Like I said Im skipping the pacs thing

Marriage is the ultimate proof of love. It shows love, respect and committment. It provides security and confidence. If thats not love then what is? Perhaps you check out my previous posts on this topic.:rolleyes:

Sounds to me like youre a lil selfish - too much money, risk of divorce etc etc obviously you still havent found true love. poor baby:p

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Im not even going to get started on why "pacs" is oh so very very wrong..... we'll just skip that for now.

About you being a family actually you cant be a family.. Family is defined as A family consists of a domestic group of people (or a number of domestic groups), typically affiliated by birth or marriage, adoption, surname and (in some cases) ownership (as occurred in the Roman ...) So unless shes your sister or your wife you arent family. And the child will also not be your family as the child will not bear your name

Like I said Im skipping the pacs thing

Marriage is the ultimate proof of love. It shows love, respect and committment. It provides security and confidence. If thats not love then what is? Perhaps you check out my previous posts on this topic.:rolleyes:

Sounds to me like youre a lil selfish - too much money, risk of divorce etc etc obviously you still havent found true love. poor baby:p
Are all married people in love? No? Then it doesn't prove anything.

And when you said ownership, you mean slavery? Why did you pick out Romans?

The original thread wasnt about marriage and being in love but about whether marriage is the ultimate proof of love. The owbership part came with the definition of a family. Chill sweetie chill

marriage itself is not proof of love. You can't claim that. God knows how many people get married for alterior motives.

What you CAN say is.. IF two people put their heads together, they can make something out of that marriage. And that could well be love. The love that was there to begin with.

Marriage in itself is a simple legal contract binding two people and their assets.
Whether love is involved at the time of union depends on the two individuals. Whether love is still there 10 - 20 years down the line also depends on those two people. Not on this thing we call "marriage".

Many marriages end up being a legal binding of two people who have become more like brother and sister. Where's the proof of love gone?

A marriage is what you make of it.

^^

I think we can say this at least:

"I love you but I don't want to marry you" is a lie.

Unless it means, I love you but I don't want to love you. Or I love you but I think I shouldn't marry you because I'm dying of cancer. Or I love you like brother and sister.

But "I love you; I want a 'relationship' with you; but I don't want to marry you" is a lie.

^^

I think we can say this at least:

"I love you but I don't want to marry you" is a lie.

Unless it means, I love you but I don't want to love you. Or I love you but I think I shouldn't marry you because I'm dying of cancer. Or I love you like brother and sister.

But "I love you; I want a 'relationship' with you; but I don't want to marry you" is a lie.
What about.. "I love you but I've been through one marriage that wrecked my life, and therefore I am afraid of it..." ?

But you can love someone, and being against the concept itself of marriage ..

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'poor baby' ? :rolleyes: how old are you ? :XD: :p

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What about "white marriage/wedding" (marrying someone just to get the nationality of the country) ? is it a proof of love as well ?!


So in the end marriage is a proof of love only to those who believe it..

I believe that lmarriage is a 100% a proof of love. Love is to take the person in good and bad times not only to have an indian movie fantacy with the one you love. It's bearing the responsibility. And when a guy or a girl love each other, they can't stand living away of each other and this should be by an official bond joining their names together.

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What about "white marriage/wedding" (marrying someone just to get the nationality of the country) ? is it a proof of love as well ?!
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That's not love. That's for nationality marriage :p .. There are different types of marriages and what we mean here, or those who agree with me, that when love leads to marriage then it's a pure, honest and strong love. When you love a girl for example and she asks you to marry her, what will you say ? Sorry I don't think of marriage now but com'n we love each other. This doesnt work :D

i think the ultimate proof of love is not the actual marriage, but what one is prepared to sacrifice for the other within the marriage.

What about.. "I love you but I've been through one marriage that wrecked my life, and therefore I am afraid of it..." ?

Fair enough! :)

Wow .. This PACS thing is cool ! :p

Well .. I dont think Marriage is a proof of love .. no!

If I speak as in the situations in our country ..
For some .. Love can happen way after marriage .. so basically they weren't married for love ..
For some .. Marriage is a just case of satisfying their family and it settles their life which makes them feel secure now because they believe they have just done a big step in their life by getting married ..
For some .. Marriage is just to get physically in contact with someone else without even knowing them before and not loving them before ..

And for some .. Marriage is just another proof of both partners for accepting each other to get married together ..

If I marry someone because I love, then I believe committing marriage is a prove of it. How long is your marriage and how strong it is, is a sign of the truth of that love I were offered or I offered!!


So basically how your love started or what behind it is, is a major factor in this case.

I remember someone once asked me to marry them because they wanted US nationality and I said no because I don't view marriage as being something half-assed flippant as getting a green card. For me marriage is the binding of love and why I have reservations about those who marry for other purposes rather than fulfilling the circle of their relationship. However, if a person is placed into an arranged marriage one would hope love develops. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But hopefully the two parties in this marriage can at least respect each other.

if you were deeply in love then you decided to get married then that is a proof of love, that you willing to give yourself and everything to that 1 person till 4ever.. and u tell the world n every1 that i love this only n we want to be together.. legally n in front of every1..

but it doesnt have to be a proof of love it was arranged.. because when they got married they only had respect to each other, n with time that respect turned to like.. n then to love.. n iv witnessed a lot of these cases..

so in the end its not blak n white.. it all depends of the whole situation n the couple themselves.. thub marriage dosnt nesseserly be a proof of love, but a way to keep love n let it grow.

Hello everyone,


well i must say that this tipic caught my eyes.

Anyways, Yes i believe marriage is a prove of love, despite Arabs or non arabc, muslims or non musilms love don't have a specific language or a specific religion but after love what is for the two lovers?
The end has to come! a commitment has to appear, you can't love someone for the rest of your life and just simply stay in love without some sort of a strong bond like marriage! i mean all human beigns would want to settle and live a stable life and start a family etc, so if not starting that with someone you love, treasure, respect and enjoy been with then who're worth your credibility?!!! an end has to come and you as a lover can decide whether it a happy end "marrige" or a pretty much lousy end to start looking again! I don't believe in arranged marriage! i mean in most cases speically in our side of the world it works fine and eventually the couple will fall in love because llife forced love to them! Yet the feeling of the first spark, the feeling of i get to choose you for the rest of your life is not there and for me that plays a big role in starting a life with somone i love.
Yes marriage is a prove of love, cuz marriage is the end to an old love to a new more comminted love stronger as i believe then the one before it, yet that doesn't mean love didn't exist at first. for sure it did but still there's something missing and marriage completes it all! Its the full package of love,

I don't think a marriage is proof of love when I look at the Divorce Rate ;p

How many ppl get married in hopes of it lasting forever , only to have it all Fall apart?

I'm obviously not gonna be in a relationship with a dude..
and not Expect it to lead to marriage Eventually.. It doesn't work that way with us

But to me love is something deep That cannot be expressed ,
Except between the two people in love .. And u can do that without a Marriage..

But Being married will just ensure me proof that He does care about doing the right thing
And that The love he has for me is worth making me his wife Religiously speaking ofcourse ;p

Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. Second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience(Oscar Wilde)

Bachelors should be heavily taxed. It is not fair that some men should be happier than others.(Oscar Wilde again)

Men marry women with the hope they will never change. Women marry men with the hope they will change. Invaribly they are both disappointed.(Albert Einstein)

My advice to you is get married: if you find a good wife you'll be happy; if not, you'll become a philosopher.(Socrates)

^ lol @ the second quote.
wise men :yes: specially Einstein, that's very true.

nice quotes lol !

So in the end .. It's absolutely not a proof .. :rolleyes:

yes it is a proof of true love even just having the idea of marrying that some1 because you're saying that you want to live all your life with that person, you want to wake up everyday and have that person's face as the very first thing to see in the morning
yes marriage is true love proof :love:

Depends on the intention I guess, some gets married to only f*ck and some only get married only to get a free babysitter/slave.

wow so many replies...

i DO believe that marrige is a proof of love, in MOST cases...

yah here, in the arab muslim countries, some people get married just for the sake of getting married...

but mostly, when u tell someone, u wanna marry her/him, it means that ur so in love with that person, that ur ready to be exclusively for them...

and about inheritance and taxes whatever, getting married to solve these problems, means u love the person in such a way u want him/her to be ur inheritor....
totally agree
and marriage shows that the person is ready to be 100% committed to the other one .. and that they will be living together for the rest of their lives .. which really means that they are goin to be facing all their problems together ... which is really cute and sweet which proofs that they do love each other

^don't some people get married just to get out of their parents' clutches? it happens everywhere, and for these people, marriage could be a ticket to freedom, regardless of love or not.

In a romantic world i would lke to say yes it is. However living in a Muslim country with many arranged marriages still happening then no way can anyone say that marriage is proof of love. Many couples still don't know each other when they get married so how can they possibly say that they are getting married to prove their love for each other - it just doesn't make sense.
It depends on each individual couple - in some cases yes it is proof, in some cases no - it is an arrangement carried out with no feelings for each other and often no knowledge about each others personality.

It could be a proof of love in some cases but not the most.

personally i dont think its a proof of love ..

^don't some people get married just to get out of their parents' clutches? it happens everywhere, and for these people, marriage could be a ticket to freedom, regardless of love or not.

loool well yeah
but thats not nice .. bad bad people :p
its not ALWAYS a proof of love
i think it is if the couple were together before marriage and it was a serious thing

^don't some people get married just to get out of their parents' clutches? it happens everywhere, and for these people, marriage could be a ticket to freedom, regardless of love or not.

In some cases, yes. Ppl find it as a way to get out, some end up with successful marriage, others, sadly not

It depends on his life. Maybe in most cases, but sometimes maybe he/she live in a troublesome life. And he don't wants him/her to get tired with his/her life.
In this case he/she wants him/her to deserve a better person.

Nice thread.
Feja

well, i liked what Hijab said, and it kinda cracked me up"When a man opens the door of his car for his wife, you can be sure of one thing: either the car is new or the wife is.
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but in my veiw, yeah it is a proof of love, indeed it is:)
Or do you think its better to have gf and bf all over the place, lol :P
" Marriage is proff of love, Dateing is not"