http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/The_Last_Supper_pre_EUR.jpg/800px-The_Last_Supper_pre_EUR.jpg


Please comment on picture and associates of Jesus.

It's not like this image is the clearest of images of The Last Supper. But it was interesting what they had come up with in The Da Vinci Code about Mary Magdalene being originally painted in a position to suit having her head rest on Jesus' (PBUH) shoulder.

All I can pretty much think of now...

shamsery why do I have a feeling there's more to this thread than you just posting that image?

What is the story behind it?

Well, it's a fresco, a painting made into wet plaster.

Since the plaster has become damaged over time, the condition of the picture has deteriorated.

This coming Thursday is Holy Thursday, which is the night of the Last Supper....

My favorite paiting of the last supper

Oh... Holy Thursday which the last supper was held on, then comes Good Friday and then Easter, which if I'm not mistaken celebrates the crucifixion of Jesus (PBUH).

Have I linked them correctly Jeff? :think:

What is the story behind it?

No one should get offended.
This is absolutly accademic discussion not to hart any bodies faith and feelings.
Sister in Islam Respected AP,
We just wish to know , what is truth?

Look Mary Magdalene beside Jesus.

Why?

wait... werent there 13 people in the last supper?
i counted them numerous times here and they appeared 12 to me!
where is the 13th? or am i seeing it wrongly because, as jeff said, the painting is old...

wait... werent there 13 people in the last supper?
i counted them numerous times here and they appeared 12 to me!
where is the 13th? or am i seeing it wrongly because, as jeff said, the painting is old...


The Last Supper, showing Jesus, at the center, saying to his disciples, "One of you shall betray me"
One disciple is painted in darkness. His face is in the shadow of another, and he leans back, nervously holding a bag of silver. This disciple, Judas, is the third face to the left of Jesus.

On a close inspection there is a single disembodied hand behind Judas wielding a knife, suggesting a stab in the back.

And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her [...]. The rest of the disciples [...]. They said to him "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The Savior answered and said to them, "Why do I not love you like her? When a blind man and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the light comes, then he who sees will see the light, and he who is blind will remain in darkness."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/marymagdalene.shtml

Were Jesus and Mary lovers?

And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her [...]. The rest of the disciples [...]. They said to him "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The Savior answered and said to them, "Why do I not love you like her? When a blind man and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the light comes, then he who sees will see the light, and he who is blind will remain in darkness."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/marymagdalene.shtml

Were Jesus and Mary lovers?


Main question was Mary one of the twelve?

Then we shall move?

What is the story behind it?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1c/Da_Vinci_The_last_supper_detail_Da_Vinci_code.jpg


There is a claim : Mary Magdalene, who was his wife.
She gave birth of a daughter. Jesus blood.

Interesting, any more details about the daughter since she is going to be God's duaghter according to Christian belief.

Sister in Islam Respected AP,
I'd be more than honored to be your brother in Islam :mmhmm:

There is a claim : Mary Magdalene, who was his wife.
She gave birth of a daughter. Jesus blood.
Yes, yes, and you just ruined the ending of the movie The Da Vinci Code for those who haven't watched it yet...

Then we shall move?
Can we please move on, with all due respect dear shamsery this is too slow paced, but I guess this is how it's done in Religion Sabla huh?
Who's reply are we waiting for? Where's Jeff?
:p

Yes, yes, and you just ruined the ending of the movie The Da Vinci Code for those who haven't watched it yet...

Where's Jeff?
:p

Try to view it from different angel please.
Hint: Original Gospel.

I'm sorry, excuse my impatience. I think I just got what you're trying to say.
The Last Supper is supposed to depict Jesus (PBUH) along with his twelve disciples, or so I understand.

Luke refers to a number of people accompanying Jesus and the twelve. From among them he names three women: "Mary, called Magdalene, ..." ... Mary Magdalene is the most well-known of the disciples outside of the Twelve.
Source: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciple_(Christianity))

I find it a bit contradictory.

And according to the painting, Mary Magdalene actually is one of the twelve disciples.


Next...?

LOL @ academic discussion

What perfect timing for attempt #2,381 of the "Lets-discredit-Christianity-by-using-crazy-theories-by-druggies-and-fiction-novels Society" to academically discuss something such as a painting.


Keep up the good work.
Could you please remind me to open a new thread to question the peadophilic habits during the time of the Prophet on the 25th of this month. ;)

Answer:

Yes , Shamsery is doing an unpleasant job.

But he is not linking rather describing how you and us respect Jesus of Nazareth.

You refute those claim (Not made by shamsery) if fail , take the help of Last testament.

Don’t put me in the line of fire?
What will you do , if I ask about the daughter of Jesus?


minerva.
Here they start again.

Oh... Holy Thursday which the last supper was held on, then comes Good Friday and then Easter, which if I'm not mistaken celebrates the crucifixion of Jesus (PBUH).

Have I linked them correctly Jeff? :think:

All correct, except the crucifixion is Good Friday and the Resurrection is Easter, the Sunday two days later...

oh eff, here we go again. shames shames shames.

Lets, see, we have the Holiest feast in Christianity coming up in a week,

And we have posts like :

Jesus was a drug addict.
God the Father is a homosexual pedophile.
God is a black man.

and now...

Jesus had an adulterous relationship with Mary Magdalene.

Keep it going guys, don't cry 'disrepecting Islam' when the chickens come home to roost.

We just wish to know , what is truth?
So...you don't know what's the truth yet?
You don't know that there's no way possible a prophet of God could commit adultery. You don't realize that all the 'DaVinci Code' theories that you're suggesting were completely argued against numerous times on this Sabla?

It's a nice painting of course...DaVinci's a master though I prefer his Madonna on the Rocks (if I got the name right), much more interesting.

Madonna of the Rocks threadlike.

http://www.flowersociety.org/images/Madonna-of-the-Rocks.jpg

I doubt whether Shamsery has read the DaVinci code, or if he's watched the movie...if it made it to his country at all. Someone gives him a bit of hearsay and he posts it here for our fun of course.

2 Peter 1:16 (King James Version)

16For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

What is the name of the daughter of Jesus Christ?

I think Shamsery has heard this Da Vinci theory and he's interested in it, that's all. Just curious how we might answer the ideas.

Myself, I don't think the idea that this picture includes Mary Magdalene is reasonable.

St. John is called, "the Apostle that Jesus loved" in his own Gospel and is frequently next to Jesus and reclining on his breast in pictures. He is understood to be young and to have a very close relationship to Jesus.

Renaissance paintings often portray him as a young man with long beautiful hair and features that we would consider feminine. That was the fashion of male beauty at the time. And you find this in almost all Renaissance paintings of the Apostle John.

If that is Mary Magdalene, where is John? :p Because the Twelve all need to be there; that is the way the Last Supper was.

Here is a little piece on artistic portrayals of St. John in the Renaissance that includes some other examples from other artists too.

http://home.arcor.de/berzelmayr/st-john.html

Madonna of the Rocks threadlike.



I doubt whether Shamsery has read the DaVinci code, or if he's watched the movie...if it made it to his country at all. Someone gives him a bit of hearsay and he posts it here for our fun of course.

I feel pity for you, that only I can say.

Have you any idea about our civilization?

Lets, see, we have the Holiest feast in Christianity coming up in a week,

I feel sorry , I did not notice about your Holy Feast.
I hadn't any intention to hart your feeling.
Again I say Sorry.

We will talk after your Holy Feast.

I feel pity for you, that only I can say.

Have you any idea about our civilization?
right, what edition of the Da Vinci code do you own?

(From Jeff) Thursday in Holy Week is called Holy Thursday or Maundy Thursday. On Holy Thursday, we celebrate the Mass of the Lord’s Supper. The night before He was betrayed, Jesus celebrated the Passover Meal with His Disciples. He took bread, blessed it and broke it and said, “Take This and eat It, This is My Body, Which will be given up for you.” When supper was ended, He took the cup filled with wine, blessed it and said, “Take this, all of you, and drink from it. This is the Cup of My Blood. The Blood of the New and Everlasting Covenant. It will be shed for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. When you do this, remember Me.”


Jeff has done a nice job of explaining Holy Week so maybe we can close this thread.

I feel sorry , I did not notice about your Holy Feast.
I hadn't any intention to hart your feeling.
Again I say Sorry.

We will talk after your Holy Feast.
yo shams, the holy period of easter lasts till pentecost, which is fifty days after this coming sunday. so you can book a holiday, cos it's gonna be a long period of lack of 'scholarly discussion' :hyper:
maybe you might consider this lenghty easter period for a nice holiday....need any holiday destination suggestions, feel free to open your first thread outside the other religions sabla.

right, what edition of the Da Vinci code do you own?

Please wait till your Holy Easter pass.