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minerva 15-03-08, 04:10 AM i am so fed up of the 'other religions sabla' being induanated with anti threads. so here's my proactive thread, to promote what's common between Islam and Christianity and Judaism. What's good and common, what we can find agreement on. Inspired by Cat Stevens mentioned in another thread... I want to celebrate what we share.
share your own views. moddies please keep the anti comments out of this thread and i apologise if there's another thread somewhere in sabla that's a copy of this.
here i start:
all muslims ,christians and Jews focus deeply on prayer.
all three are monotheistic, believe in one true God.
all three religions believe in giving charity, giving to those in need.
all three religions have the old testament (torah) in their Holy Books.
i hope i didn't commit any mistakes in my 'common' claims.
I am wondering why you left out Judaism? I am not being mean but all those concepts above excluding the afterlife one came from the Torah.
minerva 15-03-08, 04:44 AM I am wondering why you left out Judaism? I am not being mean but all those concepts above excluding the afterlife one came from the Torah.
i apologise. i shouldnt' have not mentioned Judaism out...i was just inspired by the 'other relgions sabla' mainly focussing on Christianity.
you are too right, i'm gonna edit my first post.
Jihad4Truth 15-03-08, 09:13 AM All three go back to Abraham.
Pen_it_Black 15-03-08, 09:41 AM Be good to your neighbours
Nice thread for a change.
Here is mine:
1. We can intermarry
2. Sharing food, no problem
Actually we have more similarities than contradictions
marianna 15-03-08, 10:36 AM I like this! Kudos!
We all believe in the Afterlife.
shamsery 15-03-08, 11:26 AM i am so fed up of the 'other religions sabla' being induanated with anti threads. so here's my proactive thread, to promote what's common between Islam and Christianity and Judaism. What's good and common, what we can find agreement on. Inspired by Cat Stevens mentioned in another thread... I want to celebrate what we share.
“Let us come to the common term between you and us”
Have you spell any new thesis than above mentioned?
I welcome and appreciate your effort and wish to view scholarly discussion.
How about - treat others how you yourself would like to be treated?
Although it probably stems from Pen it Blacks "Be good to your neighbours."
Then there are things like adultery and stealing which are a no-no.
Threadlike 15-03-08, 03:33 PM No discrimination between anybody in front of God except by good action...That kind of does sound universal.
Pen_it_Black 15-03-08, 06:08 PM Here's another similarity: We each have special Holy days or months throughout the year
Kreeemy 15-03-08, 07:32 PM having sex before marriage, Gambling, Getting Drunk and having all considered sinful to the those three religion.
We believe in paradise and hell in the after life ..
We also believe in angels and devils..
One common thing about religions: none can explain faith.
minerva 15-03-08, 07:44 PM we all have an easter where we pig out (sorry shams..it means eating a lot) and celebrate on a big scale with families.
we all have one day per week where we dedicate time to God. (friday, saturday, sunday)
minerva 15-03-08, 07:45 PM “Let us come to the common term between you and us”
Have you spell any new thesis than above mentioned?
I welcome and appreciate your effort and wish to view scholarly discussion.
sorry didn't understand 75% of that post.
Kreeemy 15-03-08, 07:51 PM We all believe god created the world in 6 days
HairlyMan 15-03-08, 08:04 PM We all believe god created the world in 6 days
I am not sure it is 6 days.
This is an awesome thread. Though we differ in such small things we still have many things in common:
- Adultery is a sin.
- Respect all prophets
- Pray to God and only God.
- fornication is a sin
but thinking of the differences is more exciting :D
minerva 15-03-08, 08:38 PM This is an awesome thread. Though we differ in such small things we still have many things in common:
- Adultery is a sin.
- Respect all prophets
- Pray to God and only God.
- fornication is a sin
but thinking of the differences is more exciting :D
iskot ya shekel. :hyper:
we all say prayers before we eat, when we wake up and before we go to bed.
Sodomy is a sin by all above religions. Yes being gay i mean :mmhmm:
marianna 15-03-08, 08:59 PM Fasting seems a common denomenator equated with being closer to God, remembering the poor etc.
minerva 15-03-08, 09:00 PM sodomy = being gay then. right.
btt....
We all believe in one and only one sole God. Allah .
Arabian Princess 16-03-08, 01:07 AM We all come from the same line of prophets (Ibrahim - Abraham).
We share simmiler stories in our holy books.
We have simmiler principles in life, we might differ in the details but the main message is the same.
Pygmalion 16-03-08, 06:06 AM It is enough that we share the same God... and we all agree that we are all the offspring of one man, Adam.
This isn’t a complimentary comment … but I guess, the fact that we, Abrahamic faith adherents, start all our arguments by discussing science and history is fully due to the fact that we at least agree on the concepts of the religion… I think if we to argue with someone from another religion, the argument would heavily be devoted to theology and conceptions before science and history take place…
shamsery 16-03-08, 08:53 AM We all come from the same line of prophets (Ibrahim - Abraham).
We share simmiler stories in our holy books.
We have simmiler principles in life, we might differ in the details but the main message is the same.
As far as the original scripture is concern.
shamsery 16-03-08, 08:59 AM sorry didn't understand 75% of that post.
“Let us come to the common term between you and us”
Do you understand above quoted concept, idea and proposal ?
That will serve you 100% , if you understand.
We all believe that God created all that is.
We all believe that idolatry is wrong.
We all believe that GOD is the one who contacts US, rather than that WE are the ones who seek and find GOD.
(I got the last one from a book by the Pope before he became Pope. He says that many religions primarily think of man seeking God and losing himself in God. These religions say to God, "I have become You." Their central figure is: The Mystic. God is essentially passive, Man is active. The absolute value in these religions is Experience of the Divine. Hinduism and Buddhism are examples.
But, the Pope says, Judaism, Christianity and Islam represent something different, which he calls The Monotheistic Revolution. They understand Man as essentially passive and God as essentially active. God seeks out Men and that is how the communication is established. The central figure is not the Mystic, but rather...
The Prophet.
These religions don't say to God, "I have become You", but rather "You are Other than Me and I Worship You" . The absolute value in religions of the Monotheistic Revolution is The Divine Call.)
As far as the original scripture is concern.
The is the key point, the similarities which we are talking about are based on the original scriptures (of course the Quran is an exception since it's always original).
Arabian Princess 16-03-08, 04:28 PM The is the key point, the similarities which we are talking about are based on the original scriptures (of course the Quran is an exception since it's always original).
the thing Ice tea, even the books we consider unauthentic these days preach similarties. They call for one god that we are following. Let us forget the differences and focus on the similarties here.
The thing is, it is contradicting to say I believe in one God (while same time believe Jesus is God). And then compare it with muslims belief in the oneness of God.
It is good to look at similarities but let us not fool ourselves and others.
Sorry Minerva,
This thread will not survive as long as the mods allow Mr. Tea and Mr. Shamsery to disrupt it.
Apparently they don't want peace.
It's worth pointing out what the 138 famous Muslim scholars who wrote the Common Word document have to say (it's just between Christians and Muslims, but that's a contibution):
These (shared) principles are found over and over again in the sacred texts of Islam and Christianity. The Unity of God, the necessity of love for Him, and the necessity of love of the neighbour is thus the common ground between Islam and Christianity.
http://www.acommonword.com/index.php?lang=en&page=option1
It's a really fascinating and lovely document and very thought provoking. And they signed the salutation at the end in Arabic and Latin, since it was initiated by the Pope's Regensburg address and largely directed to Catholics:
Wal-Salaamu ‘Alaykum,
Pax Vobiscum.
(means= Peace be with you).
This is a beautiful way to end, because some Muslims say that you must never use this greeting for non-Muslims, but they use it to us.
^^ hmm, the jews were not included? That's weird
nice thread minerva.
We also share the same Holy men, just the titles are a bit different, starting from Noah till Zachariya (for Jews, Christians and muslims) and Jesus (for Christians and muslims) peace be upon them all
^^
Good point!
And it's worth saying that we revere certain scriptures in common, too, even if Muslims believe that they are imperfectly preserved:
Torah and Psalms for all three; and Gospel for Christians and Muslims.
Pygmalion 17-03-08, 07:47 AM To my Muslim Fellows…
Islam is undeniably privileged Christians and Jews over all other non-Muslims…
The essence of this privilege has nothing to do with them in the first place…it has to do with us Muslims…
Islam wasn’t courting their passion… it came in a place where Jews and Christians were insignificant minorities that didn’t have any control, if Islam was to court others’ passion the privilege would have been given to the people of Mecca..
But Allah is telling us how important it is to share the concept of divine being with Jews and Christians, Islam utterly condemned worshiping other than Allah and so that privilege is to highlight the principle that tells us that those people are not just like the rest of the non-Muslim….
But sometimes we try to emphasize otherwise, and we try to come up with any reason to alienate people…
For instance, in Arabic we call the Christian “Maseehi” after the Maseeh (The Messiah), some Muslims insist that we should call them Nassrani like the Quran does because, as they claim, those people have nothing to do with the Messiah… but who said that the Quran uses the word “Nassrani” to demean Christians? Nassrani was the word used in the Arabic literature even by the Christian Arab after Nazareth (Al-Nassera in Palastine) and Christian Arab call the prophet Issa Yasoo Al-Nasseri “Jesus of Nazareth.” Massehi is just a modern literal translation of Christian that I have never seen in any Arabic work before 1900.
I just don’t understand why some people come up with these kinds of theories as if the religion was only meant to live the hard way…
One interesting thing that Muslims and Christians have in common, but not necessarily Jews, is belief in an afterlife of punishment or reward.
Jews generally don't believe in any life after death. I remember one famous Jew writing, "When a Jew is dead, he's dead."
Some of them--including Monotheism--now believe in reincarnation, like the Hindus!
And some believe in an afterlife of reward and punishment.
In Jesus' day, there was a divide, with the Pharisees (the rabbis who specialized in knowledge of the Law) supporting it in part and the Saducees (the priests of the Temple and their followers who were more secularized), "denying the Resurrection" as the New Testament puts it.
shamsery 17-03-08, 09:01 AM Sorry Minerva,
This thread will not survive as long as the mods allow Mr. Tea and Mr. Shamsery to disrupt it.
Apparently they don't want peace.
I thank you Mr Wudjab and agree ,you are intiligent.
There are divisons among the intiligents , I am not going to speak anything about that , cause most of readers understand in which group you and your associates belongs.
Let us come to the common term between you and us.
The above quote is a bindings and mandetory for a Muslim.
Question comes, who is Muslim?
I shall not go to the details but let me give you hints.
There are three types of Muslim basically, in my opinion.
I shall express my views and opinion as a freeman , not as puppet or pets.
I care a little of others.
I seek refuge and blessings of Allah(swt) only.
I am coming to reply your next question, highlighted in red.
Most of the anti war post , and pro peace staff posted by whom, is known to readers.
This is a stupid comments without any evidence.
shamsery 17-03-08, 09:20 AM It's worth pointing out what the 138 famous Muslim scholars who wrote the Common Word document have to say (it's just between Christians and Muslims, but that's a contibution):
Dear Jeff,
Realy ,I enjoy exchanging views and ideas with you.
Forget about 138 Muslim scholars , if it is 138 Million , even , nothing is above the Holy Qur'an.
2nd point, ( You know my expression perhaps a little bit diffrent than you, so, before draw the conclusion, if you are confused with my statement, please ask for the clarification.)
I have already mentioned in other post There are three types of Muslim in my opinion, it has also sub-catagory.
The Holy Qur'an, the last testament is not for so called Muslims only, it is for whole mankind.
An example , bearing the name of Shamsery, Rahim, Karim is not the prove of Muslim.
Other Example, Tariq Aziz , seems to be a Muslim by name but was he a Muslim?
We look for common term between you and us , but what are those common terms?
Which come first?
shamsery 17-03-08, 09:23 AM This is a beautiful way to end, because some Muslims say that you must never use this greeting for non-Muslims, but they use it to us.
This is not correct from the Islamic point of view.
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