I was looking pictures of Kaaba and was shocked to see this information

Which I don’t believe :bored:





[Note: A recent archeological find in Kuwait unearthed a gold-plated
statue of the Hindu deity Ganesh. A Muslim resident of Kuwait requested
historical research material that can help explain the connection between Hindu civilisation and Arabia.]

Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple?
By P.N. Oak (Historian) (http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm)

Glancing through some research material recently, I was pleasantly surprised to come across a reference to a king Vikramaditya inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire.

The text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is found recorded on page 315 of a volume known as ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey.



This is what we know and have been taught




A Short History of the Ka`bah (http://www.antomlife.com/English/hajj/2002/01/stories/article2.shtml)

It is definitely known that it was Ibrahim al-Khalil, peace and blessings be upon him, who built the Ka`bah. The residents around it at that time were his son, Isma`il, and the tribe of Jurhum (originally from Yemen). It is an almost square building whose sides face the cardinal points of the compass; the winds, no matter how strong, lose their force when they strike it - without doing it any harm.

The construction of Ibrahim stood intact, until it was rebuilt by al-'Amaliqah, and later by the tribe of Jurhum (or vice versa).

When the management of the Ka`bah came into the hands of Qusayy Ibn Kilab - an ancestor of the Prophet - in the second century before Hijrah, he demolished and rebuilt it on firm foundation, putting a roof of doom palm timber and date-palm trunk on it. He also built 'Daru 'n-Nadwah' (Council House) on one side. It was the place from where he ruled and where he held counsel with his colleagues. Then he divided various sides of the Ka`bah. Among different clans of the Quraysh and each clan built their houses at the side allotted to them; and they opened their doors towards the Ka`bah.

God told us that Ka'ba was built by Ibrahim and his son PBUT so we don't question this. And besides when was king Vikramaditya era ? was it before the time of Ibrahim PBUH or after it ? This will tell us many things. I heard that Ka'ba is rebuilt 12 times as well, so maybe one of the times of rebuilding it they hired Indian workers since they are cheap man power and one of the Indians inscribed that furtively :D

Actually, the ka'aba also had statues of Mary and Jesus in it.

Thing is because the Meccans had made the kaaba into a commercial centre where all the idols of the gods and goddesses of the region where held inside it (which were 360 in total). It became pretty much of a museum, so I wouldn''t be surprised if some Hindu artefacts were kept there as well.

So yes, the kaaba was pretty much a temple for all beliefs at that time, that's how the Meccans made their money by attracting everyone! :dev:

Actually, the ka'aba also had statues of Mary and Jesus in it.

Thing is because the Meccans had made the kaaba into a commercial centre where all the idols of the gods and goddesses of the region where held inside it (which were 360 in total). It became pretty much of a museum, so I wouldn''t be surprised if some Hindu artefacts were kept there as well.

So yes, the kaaba was pretty much a temple for all beliefs at that time, that's how the Meccans made their money by attracting everyone! :dev:

This would be a good reason for that, which I would agree with.

But not that the Kaaba is Originally a Hindu Temple ! This doesn’t make any sense, at least for me !

So yes, the kaaba was pretty much a temple for all beliefs at that time, that's how the Meccans made their money by attracting everyone! :dev:

Exactly. But another important point is that Kaaba wasn't literally a Hindu Temple, but it was a temple for "Wathanis" who were worshipping the statues of some good people in Mecca in earlier ages and many other statues were added every time that represent many believes and religon backgrounds..There is a possibility of Kaaba were having some Hindu statues as Mecca was an attraction area for business men and people from all over the world at that time, where the Hindus might represented a slim bit of them..

Well Arabs used to worship stones and idols similar found in Hindu temples today. Also, before Islam, Ka'aba was used as a house for the stone-made idols before Islam, so anything is possible!

Also, we still find many ignorant behaviors in Muslim societies known to be idol-worshipers today. An example would be Oman!

Also, we still find many ignorant behaviors in Muslim societies known to be idol-worshipers today. An example would be Oman!

So true..But how this could be related to the topic ;) :p

Well its not, but its another thing common between Arabs and Hindus.

Actually, the ka'aba also had statues of Mary and Jesus in it.

Thing is because the Meccans had made the kaaba into a commercial centre where all the idols of the gods and goddesses of the region where held inside it (which were 360 in total). It became pretty much of a museum, so I wouldn''t be surprised if some Hindu artefacts were kept there as well.

So yes, the kaaba was pretty much a temple for all beliefs at that time, that's how the Meccans made their money by attracting everyone! :dev:


Exactly. At that time people used all sorts of things for their false deities. As India was only a few miles away to trade with the city-ports of the Arabian peninsula, and was a producer of gold even then, it is not surprising. I very much doubt that Hinduism as a faith was spread to that Arabian peninsula as such, and it's even less likely that he Hejaz was even part of an Indian empire. But given the closeness of the two regions, the ancient trade in the Gulf, and the appetite of people for shiny decorations and statues, I think the most obvious explanation is that some of these things over time became the idols of tribes who did not even know their origin, and thus ended up in the Kaaba.

I was looking pictures of Kaaba and was shocked to see this information

Which I don’t believe :bored:




This is what we know and have been taught

( Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple?
By P.N. Oak (Historian)

Your first link dose not works.

2nd. It is an old claim, nothing new.
3rd. Few Hindu scholars come up with their thesis.
4th. It matters a little, you believe it or not.
5th. If you have intellect and knowledge, refute their claim/thesis with logic and knowledge.
Thanking you.

There is a claim that puts the argument the other way around, i.e. Hinduism is an offshoot of the Abrahamic faith.

The Hindu scripture mentions Brahma, Sarai and Ghaggar which closely match the Quranic/Biblical figures Ibrahim, Sarah and Hajir. There is also a mention of a shrine, those descriptions fit the Kabaa to an extent…

Even the word Musliman (also used for Muslim in the Ardu-Hindu languages and French, I believe) was first mentioned in the Hindu scripture of an upcoming nation with some description of a prophet. Many of those descriptions fit the prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Read this article and have a look at the comparison between the Quran and the Hindi scripture…

http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=rarticle&raid=275

Regardless, please note that it is not that Ka'ba itself that is sacred to Muslims, it is the location on which it lays.

The kaa'ba has been partially destroyed many times in the past and rebuilt.

Regardless, please note that it is not that Ka'ba itself that is sacred to Muslims, it is the location on which it lays.

The kaa'ba has been partially destroyed many times in the past and rebuilt.

You are true.

But dose it refute the claim?

As sophie said, Meccans have gathered all the types of idols worshiped in all Arabia just for commercial purposes.. That could explain these findings!

As sophie said, Meccans have gathered all the types of idols worshiped in all Arabia just for commercial purposes.. That could explain these findings!

Please read the following:

For those who would like to read the Arabic wording I reproduce it hereunder in Roman script:

"Itrashaphai Santu Ibikramatul Phahalameen Karimun Yartapheeha Wayosassaru Bihillahaya Samaini Ela Motakabberen Sihillaha Yuhee Quid min howa Yapakhara phajjal asari nahone osirom bayjayhalem. Yundan blabin Kajan blnaya khtoryaha sadunya kanateph netephi bejehalin Atadari bilamasa- rateen phakef tasabuhu kaunnieja majekaralhada walador. As hmiman burukankad toluho watastaru hihila Yakajibaymana balay kulk amarena phaneya jaunabilamary Bikramatum".

(Page 315 Sayar-ul-okul).

[Note: The title ‘Saya-ul-okul’ signifies memorable words.]

A careful analysis of the above inscription enables us to draw the following conclusions:

1. That the ancient Indian empires may have extended up to the eastern boundaries of Arabia until Vikramaditya and that it was he who for the first time conquered Arabia. Because the inscription says that king Vikram who dispelled the darkness of ignorance from Arabia.
2. That, whatever their earlier faith, King Vikrama’s preachers had succeeded in spreading the Vedic (based on the Vedas, the Hindu sacred scriptures)) way of life in Arabia.
3. That the knowledge of Indian arts and sciences was imparted by Indians to the Arabs directly by founding schools, academies and cultural centres. The belief, therefore, that visiting Arabs conveyed that knowledge to their own lands through their own indefatigable efforts and scholarship is unfounded.

It goes on with the following comment:

The following explanation is reproduced from the Sword of Truth archives.

All Arabic copies of the Koran have the mysterious figure 786 imprinted on them . No Arabic scholar has been able to determine the choice of this particular number as divine. It is an established fact that Muhammad was illiterate therefore it is obvious that he would not be able to differentiate numbers from letters. This "magical" number is none other than the Vedic holy letter "OM" written in Sanskrit (Refer to figure 2). Anyone who knows Sanskrit can try reading the symbol for "OM" backwards in the Arabic way and magically the numbers 786 will appear! Muslims in their ignorance simply do not realise that this special number is nothing more than the holiest of Vedic symbols misread.

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Figure 2.

Read from right to left this figure
of OM represents the numbers 786
Look at this symbol of Om in a mirror and
you can make out the Devnagari (Sanskrit-Hindi)
numerals 7-8-6