View Full Version : Does the big bang fit with the Bible?


shamsery
23-02-08, 10:04 AM
Astronomy has been much in the news these past several years as we see or read reports about the latest discoveries of the Hubble Space Telescope, the twin Mars’ rovers Spiritand Opportunity, and the numerous space probes such as Galileo, Cassini and Huygens. All of these space programs assume that the universe began with a big bang billions of years ago.
“Jesus” and the Bible came after millions of years later.
What The Bible thinks on the issue?

spirit
23-02-08, 10:43 AM
LOL @ 'what the bible thinks on this issue'

shamsery
23-02-08, 05:01 PM
LOL @ 'what the bible thinks on this issue'

If you hold the Bible close to your heart , you should know the answer.

wudjab
23-02-08, 05:19 PM
LOL @ Spirit LOL @ 'what the bible thinks on this issue'

shamsery
24-02-08, 01:52 PM
LOL @ Spirit LOL @ 'what the bible thinks on this issue'

Utter nonsense.

Does the big bang fit with the Bible?
Do you know the answer ?

Jeff
24-02-08, 01:58 PM
Well, I don't think the Bible addresses it as such. It's not concerned with such things.

But the notion of the Big Bang has generally been welcomed by Christians, since we share with Muslims the belief that God created the universe ex nihilo, out of nothing.

If one wanted, one could say that "Let there be light!" is an indication of explosive beginning with a huge burst of energy.

wudjab
24-02-08, 06:34 PM
Nonsense ? Not at all.

That would depend on if you are referring to "The Holy Bible - Word of God and Source of Spiritual Guidance Edition" or "The Holy Bible - Word of God and guidebook to Nuclear and Quantum Physics Edition".

shamsery
25-02-08, 04:00 PM
Well, I don't think the Bible addresses it as such. It's not concerned with such things.

But the notion of the Big Bang has generally been welcomed by Christians, since we share with Muslims the belief that God created the universe ex nihilo, out of nothing.

If one wanted, one could say that "Let there be light!" is an indication of explosive beginning with a huge burst of energy.

You mean , Bible has no observation.

wudjab
25-02-08, 04:49 PM
Like I said before, it would depend on which edition you were looking at.

Kara
26-02-08, 10:46 AM
What The Bible thinks on the issue?

I think the bible thinks that we should work it out for ourselves.

All those physicists and engineers need to make a living too..

shamsery
26-02-08, 10:49 AM
Like I said before, it would depend on which edition you were looking at.

Well , which edition go with Big Bang theory?

shamsery
26-02-08, 10:53 AM
I think the bible thinks that we should work it out for ourselves.

All those physicists and engineers need to make a living too..

I think , the Bible is a great and holy book and that cannot ignore such important point.
It is a theory related with the creation of solar system and live.
Do you think , there is noting in The Bible?

Kara
26-02-08, 11:16 AM
I think , the Bible is a great and holy book and that cannot ignore such important point.
It is a theory related with the creation of solar system and live.
Do you think , there is noting in The Bible?

It hasn't ignored it as such, it just doesn't extrapolate much beyond "let there be light".

The bible is more concerned with how we live and interact with this world, not so much how the world came about.

Threadlike
26-02-08, 07:32 PM
And if the Bible does not mention the Big Bang that would imply that.......?

minerva
26-02-08, 10:06 PM
And if the Bible does not mention the Big Bang that would imply that.......?
it was written well before quantum physics got discovered :hyper:

marianna
26-02-08, 10:07 PM
For me the big bang and God is both. Physics is used to explain what is tangible. God is both tangible and of course intangible.

Kara
27-02-08, 06:15 AM
And if the Bible does not mention the Big Bang that would imply that.......?

it was written well before quantum physics got discovered :hyper:

and that Edwin Hubble is not 5,000 years old :P

shamsery
01-03-08, 11:11 AM
For me the big bang and God is both. Physics is used to explain what is tangible. God is both tangible and of course intangible.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/articles/wow/big-bang.jpg

What is the Bible view on Big Bang theory?
Dose it conflict?
Hope for a learner have right to ask question.

Kara
01-03-08, 12:38 PM
I think perhaps its best we have a small lesson on the big bang theory.

The big bang theory suggests that the universe has a beginning. Unlike steady state theory which suggests that it has always existed - this theory is liked by people who dislike science and religion mixing.

In the beginning (about 13 billion years ago) there was a singularity - something that was hot, dense and small. This singularity starts to expand. There isn't really a bang or explosion. We also now know that the universe is not just expanding but its accelerating. We haven't worked out the shape of the universe yet - flat (no curvature), closed (+ve curvature) or hyperbolic (-ve curvature) - I think hyperbolic is the most accepted.

Then there is structure formation and according to the big bang theory it is hierarchical, that is smaller structures are formed before the larger structures. Quasars - stars - galaxies -clusters - superclusters.

Please note that planet formation is barely mentioned or is not part of the big bang theory. But earth is about 4.6 billion years old.

So now that I have done my research... what exactly do you want to know assuming you have read Genesis chapter 1?

shamsery
01-03-08, 01:26 PM
So now that I have done my research... what exactly do you want to know assuming you have read Genesis chapter 1?

So quickly!!
I thank you. This is great.

You are skipping the question.
Regarding shape, density and others, we can discuss gradually.

What is the Bible view on Big Bang theory?
Dose it conflict?

Kara
01-03-08, 02:46 PM
What is the Bible view on Big Bang theory?
Dose it conflict?

The Bible doesn't have a view on the Big Bang Theory, something that was formulated last century and is still being worked on.

Whether or not it conflicts is beside the point. Creation, evolution, big bang is not emphasised. Of course it doesn't mean we can't question it.

In my opinion it doesn't really conflict, it also doesn't give specifics.

Ba'al HaTanya (1745-1812) said that at the moment of creation from ex nihilo was at the verb Barah (Bereshit barah Elokim - In the beginning God created...). But I am going into realms which are unknown to me.

Shame Monotheism isn't around to provide more info on this Rabbi and his works. I think it would be interesting.

shamsery
02-03-08, 09:19 AM
In my opinion it doesn't really conflict, it also doesn't give specifics.

Respected Kara,

Dose it contradict?

shamsery
02-03-08, 09:24 AM
The Bible doesn't have a view on the Big Bang .
At least you have given your observasion.
Thank you.
Is concluding statement?
Let me wait for my friend Jeff.