View Full Version : A+ in all subjects = Successful?


UmKhalid
15-02-08, 03:26 PM
We believe everyone has a special talent and is good at a certain thing. That means that they also have their weaknesses. But when it comes to a child's studies, we seem to forget that and expect the child to get straight As in all subjects (Arts to Science). If the child doesn't achieve high results in all, the child is considered a failure.

The Prophet :PBUH: knew that a person cannot be successful in all fields, that is why his companions were given tasks that suited them.

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What do you think?

Should the parents be worried if their child continued to receive low marks in one subject?

Or should they be worried when their child is receiving high marks in ALL subjects?

What is success to you?

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I would worry if the child had full marks in all subjects. If it happens it means the child has been working more than he or she would take. That could ruin the child's personality. When they grow up and hear their friends saying: "We played outside in the mud everyday:hbd:", he or she would go: "And I studied ... :("

FAITH86
15-02-08, 03:30 PM
Getting an A in all subjects doesn't mean that you're a successful person. Actually, I believe that studying in a nerdish way kills person's creativity.

"I was born intelligent, but education ruined me :( "

squinty
15-02-08, 03:45 PM
I think this is like a parents discussion...
Since "life" is about "studying"... I think you should try hard to study but not "kill" yourself studying and not doing anything you want..

And because of how this "world" is.. We have to get HIGH marks or you will get rejected from universites, schools, jobs, etc

I know people who study a lot and have their own life to go with.
So no it doesn't kill the person's personality or makes anything worse if you know hot to make time for everything...

UmKhalid
15-02-08, 03:49 PM
So we have to study and get good grades so we can be successful in the eyes of the ministry of education, which unfortunately affected how parents see their children too ... ?

"life" is about "studying"... ??

:yuk:

NaBHaN
15-02-08, 04:25 PM
School grades does not necessarily determine if a person is going to be successful or not, I know many people who used to get horrible grades in school yet went on to lead successful careers after uni. It's all about how ambitious you are and how far you want to push yourself to achieve your dreams.

AMARANT
15-02-08, 04:26 PM
Getting an A in all subjects doesn't mean that you're a successful person. Actually, I believe that studying in a nerdish way kills person's creativity.

"I was born intelligent, but education ruined me :( "

totaly agree with Faith...

i know many straight As students who dont succeed well in thier job...

and many average students who ended up in big jobs bcuz if thier creativity....

it's anot a rule, that straight As students fail in jobs...

but it's not a way to measure ppls success in life...

STING
15-02-08, 07:51 PM
Not necessarily A+ in all subjects, but being "above average" is required. In addition to being good and special in your field, practically speaking.

But then again, I know people who have skipped school and have become millionaires in no time!

So unless you do something like that, you should hav decent grades as a back-up ;)

Superbia
15-02-08, 08:44 PM
I believe that people whom are smart in education, tend to be dumb in life :boo: Yes, it is indeed a harsh judgement, but truth hurts and I've observed it in more than one person.

Sama
15-02-08, 09:33 PM
If I was a uni president or a school principle, I'd ban any student who gets more than 3 As in a semester!!!

However, sometimes ppl have that kind of smartness, analytical smartness if I'm not mistaken, and they get A+ without killing themselves with studying..

So Superbia, ur judgment is true most of times.. But there are some exceptions and special cases ;)

STING
15-02-08, 09:47 PM
Superbia, we all now know who's not good in school :p

STING
15-02-08, 09:48 PM
However, sometimes ppl have that kind of smartness, analytical smartness if I'm not mistaken, and they get A+ without killing themselves with studying..


Ehm ehm :cool:

UmKhalid
15-02-08, 09:52 PM
STING, now your post makes more sense. :p Why say it is bad if you were 'one of them'.

UmKhalid
15-02-08, 09:55 PM
Someone who oftenly sees graduates who come for job interviews: most of those who have full marks don't know how to speak and tend to be robot-like.

Hmm.

FAITH86
15-02-08, 09:56 PM
If I was a uni president or a school principle, I'd ban any student who gets more than 3 As in a semester!!!


Totally agree with ya, Sama! Ban the NERDS :6:!!

STING
15-02-08, 09:57 PM
STING, now your post makes more sense. :p Why say it is bad if you were 'one of them'.

I also got A- and Bs sometimes :p. And besides, I never study, and I used to be involved in other activities all the time.

So I am not a nerd, I simply enjoy my education.

STING
15-02-08, 09:59 PM
Allowing me to quote Mr. Bill Gates here (rephrasing):

"Be nice to the nerds in your class, they will be your bosses in the future"

;)

FAITH86
15-02-08, 10:00 PM
BAN THE NERDS!
BAN THE NERDS!
BAN THE NERDS!

:p

FAITH86
15-02-08, 10:03 PM
You won't feel the beauty of the "A" you got of you didn't try a cute "C, D or F" in your transcript.

minerva
15-02-08, 10:04 PM
some kids are plain clever. they get straight a's without studying. they just pay attention and do their homework.
their success rate extends to outside activities as well.
God bless them.
(google gifted children).
some kids need help because sometimes there is a subject they don't love. when you love a subject, you learn it without really trying.
so it's up to the parents to make learning fun (and teacher of course). in that way when teacher says 'ok, let's get ready for math time' the kids will go 'yay!' because they know it's going to be a lesson full of activity and not just chalk and talk. their grades will be automatic a's.

UmKhalid
15-02-08, 10:11 PM
Alright, STING can be considered the exception Sama talked about.

But the thing is STING, do you understand that not everyone can be the same? Would you be dissapointed if your children didn't turn out to have straight As?

Would you go: "When I was in your age ..." :p ?

minerva
15-02-08, 10:14 PM
Alright, STING can be considered the exception Sama talked about.

But the thing is STING, do you understand that not everyone can be the same? Would you be dissapointed if your children didn't turn out to have straight As?

Would you go: "When I was in your age ..." :p ?
i have two girls.
all i'm happy is that they both do their best. if they get a C or if they get an A, their best effort gets rewarded, irrispective of the grade.

UmKhalid
15-02-08, 10:24 PM
You know minerva, maybe in Malta it is different. Here the subjects are hard and dull. If a students wants to get high marks, he or she should memorize.

But ofcourse right after the exam all is gone. Because they didn't really love the subject, they were forced to study it so they could pass the year.

STING
15-02-08, 10:37 PM
Na actually I don't care what grades my kids would get as long as they are confident of being good in what they choose to do!

MissKindy
15-02-08, 11:17 PM
You won't feel the beauty of the "A" you got of you didn't try a cute "C, D or F" in your transcript.

I agree!!! :p

I dont get A's never unless its sports i just love it

Though i try so hard working for a B and maybe kill for an A but it still dint happen :rolleyes:

I wont lose hope i just want a pretty A in one science subject and my job is dont in school :angel:

Phat
16-02-08, 12:00 AM
No.

Maybe, Theoretically, but Practically No.

minerva
16-02-08, 12:30 AM
You know minerva, maybe in Malta it is different. Here the subjects are hard and dull. If a students wants to get high marks, he or she should memorize.

But ofcourse right after the exam all is gone. Because they didn't really love the subject, they were forced to study it so they could pass the year.
memory work is a tough part of study.
let me give you an example on how it can be made easier.
when i was 17 i used to study biology at university. on weekends, i used to go out with a large group of friends looking up plants and animals like bats, birds etc. nesting grounds. it was a hobby of mine. i learnt a lot that way. i had guide books about the environment. i knew things out of love. when the topics came up at uni, i got good grades not because i studied, but because i took a genuine interest in the subject.
even in other subjects, if you are studying sociology, don't just get it from books. read journals, do a bit of research, talk to people in the field....then your assignments have more 'meat' behind them and they will stick out from the others who have just looked at books and memorised.
just my 2 euro cents :)

FaHaD
16-02-08, 01:19 AM
can u trust oman school curriculum to judge on some intellectuality.

STING
16-02-08, 04:00 AM
^^ Excellent point! But I heard they have been improving!

Nella
16-02-08, 08:27 AM
^ yeah, you mean how books keep shrinking by the year? and how curriculums are completely dependent on the incompetent teacher? meh..the only thing they're improving is the designs and colors of the books. :D and they still don't look good.

back to topic:

i wouldn't mind them not getting straight As. but i'd like to see some effort made in trying to get them. :D
i'd be worried if they kept getting low marks, and i'd also be worried if i saw them killing themselves to get straight As. i want to see an acceptable effort made, that would satisfy to me..an indication that they're serious about their studies, but not obsessed with them!

if they were born geniuses, then that of course is another story. :p

FAITH86
16-02-08, 08:38 AM
^^ Excellent point! But I heard they have been improving!

Yeah, of course they're imroving in the opposite way :XD:!

STING
16-02-08, 09:04 AM
^ oh ok! I guess I am wrong then. Good thing I have no kids, bad thing I have no wive(s) though :p

Marchese
16-02-08, 07:15 PM
I got an A last semester :cool:

Sama
16-02-08, 08:43 PM
^ ba'5tak XD hehehe *lucky u*

Marchese
16-02-08, 08:47 PM
^ ba'5tak XD hehehe *lucky u*

Thanks, I never thought I would get any :angel:

BLING
16-02-08, 08:54 PM
^ ba'5tak XD hehehe *lucky u*

Lym
16-02-08, 10:05 PM
Hey, Don't insult the nerds :bored:

I would not be worried if my child got all As, actually that is what I want them to get provided I think they can do it and they put the effort. I'm not saying they should study 24/7, but they should put an hour or two every day dedicated to their studies. If they still put the effort, and are not able to get straight As, then I will still applaud their efforts. I do realize that not everyone is academically smart/intelligent. Some people can't just get As.

UmKhalid
16-02-08, 10:10 PM
Some people can't just get As.


:yes: :( ...

Arabian Princess
16-02-08, 10:32 PM
I want you guys to come here after you are really parents!!

Personally, I admit I wasnt a A student, at least not on the last years of school. But, I will push my kids to get good grades. I cant see them being addicted to internet or play station and say .. its ok they are enjoying thier time and thats what matters. Education matters and when they are young they just dont realise it.
So yah, I will go and tell my kids that I wouldnt accept anything below an A .. and if they studied for an A and didnt get it, I wont be upset .. but if they didnt .. they should accept a little bit of pressure!

UmKhalid
16-02-08, 10:48 PM
^ Yeah it's so sad. When a person becomes a parent they totally forget what they've been through when they were in their child's age. I sure had fun playing in the mud and coming back at sunset to have a shower and sleep when I was little, but I might deprive my child of that, and for what! For good marks! ... Horrible. :(

Arabian Princess
16-02-08, 11:59 PM
When your child is a famous Docter, or an engineer or business man .. and you feel you had something to do in that (after Allah's blessings ofcourse) .. wouldnt you feel proud?

UmKhalid
17-02-08, 07:31 AM
^ Yes, but that doesn't always have to do with the child getting straight As at school.

Angel_Eyes
17-02-08, 07:49 AM
If a student always gets high marks, it doesnt ALWAYS mean that they are smart. If i student gets low grades, it doesnt ALWAYS bean they are less intelligent.

Arabian Princess
17-02-08, 11:16 AM
^ Yes, but that doesn't always have to do with the child getting straight As at school.

Ofcourse it doesnt .. but its the path to reach there. If the child didnt learn to work hard young, they will never do it.

fox2005eng
17-02-08, 11:21 AM
thanks alot

Bye

UmKhalid
17-02-08, 01:00 PM
welcome


Bye

undercover
17-02-08, 01:59 PM
I also know many who left school at 15 and went on to become millionaires...

What counts for me is: finding something you love doing and can be passionate about that someone is willing to pay you to do! Pieces of paper will never beat a work ethic, creativity, and an unwillingness to fail.

Sama
17-02-08, 09:32 PM
I also know many who left school at 15 and went on to become millionaires...


Yet.. A parent wouldn't like his/her child to leave school at 15! he/she never know what the future is hiding for his child :no:

Having a degree is necessary these dayz