http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,532423,00.html


Following the violent death of a Moroccan teenager in Cologne, hundreds of immigrants have taken to the streets in nightly demonstrations to protest what they see as evidence of their second-class status in Germany. Police warn the city could be ready to explode.
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Following the violent death of a Moroccan teenager in Cologne, hundreds of immigrants have taken to the streets in nightly demonstrations to protest what they see as evidence of their second-class status in Germany. Police warn the city could be ready to explode.
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Every night last week, up to 300 protestors gathered at the spot where Salih died to demand “justice” instead of letting his killer walk free. They are protesting against “racism in Germany” — but since it appears clear that this case involves self-defense, it’s obviously about more than just the unfortunate Salih. It’s more about how immigrants and their children feel they are currently being treated in Germany.


This guy kills a worthless piece of shhit trying to rob him and the local Muslims protest, demaning justice! Justice was served. Everyday is a new day when it comes to the audacity of these people. Imagine if the Muslim had killed the guy. Do you think those 300 Muslims would have cared? Hhell no!

And again, someone needs to teach these clowns that Islam is not a "race".

Maybe the Germans are waking up. Now if only the rest of Europe would.


The "unfortunate" wording came at a particularly unfortunate time. "We have too many criminal foreigners," Roland Koch, the conservative governor of the state of Hesse, said in late December. In his re-election campaign, which many observers considered xenophobic (more...) (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,526236,00.html), Koch made clear he thought immigrants should assimilate and shouldn't expect Germans to accommodate their cultural practices.

**sigh**

I'm fed up of reading this kind of stuff.

This is the fruit of opening immigration, of taking in people who come running this way. Let's even call it the "thanks".

It's always like this. Us against them. They always seem to forget how priviledged they are to BE in Germany in the first place. Kinda like when you take in a sick puppy off the streets, into your home, feed him, keep him warm .. he becomes a fully grown healthy dog and turns on the hand that fed him.

"Koch made clear he thought immigrants should assimilate and shouldn't expect Germans to accommodate their cultural practices."

I think much of the problem stems from the birth dearth among natives and the lack of cultural and religious confidence.

Combine those things with the need for a growing workforce and you get all these problems.

It's one thing to invite immigrants to participate in a healthy, growing, confident society. But dying Germany receives immigrants because it MUST, not because it wants to.

Boring.

Very Very Boring.

Boring.

Very Very Boring.


Typical. Very Very Typical.

You too huh ? ..

self defense?

total nonsense

why that German man carrying a knife with him?

then stabbing the armless Moroccan boy in the heart

what type of self defense is that?

I call it first degree murder

Giggles
nice try
But the article was about Moroccans and the fact that Germans are fed up of them
Africans in the West are not exactly the best example of Muslim [some of them]
Go to Germany or Italy and you'll see what I mean
No wonder in USofA you're not racist
You dnt get this sort of people
And in case you didn't notice, the episode was just a trigger to the fact that they're treated like 3rd class citizen

self defense?

total nonsense

why that German man carrying a knife with him?

then stabbing the armless Moroccan boy in the heart

what type of self defense is that?

I call it first degree murder

it's called doing the world a favor by removing one more thug that was trying to rob the man.

just the thought of it puts a smile on my face.

For the police, the case is clear cut. According to their version of events, Salih allegedly wanted to mug a 20-year-old German man, who tried to defend himself. But he panicked and pulled out a pocketknife that he plunged into Salih's heart with an unlucky stab. Prosecutors said it was a clear case of self-defense, and there are witnesses. But none of that matters any longer.

cloudy ... this is as islam as it gets.

Clear case of self defense ... but islam is only for muslims in your twisted mine ... right?

This case or the outcome is similar to the French case last year.

A muslim screws up and now muslims want blood.

They got blood in france ... lets see if they get some in germany.

Giggles
nice try
But the article was about Moroccans and the fact that Germans are fed up of them
Africans in the West are not exactly the best example of Muslim [some of them]
Go to Germany or Italy and you'll see what I mean
No wonder in USofA you're not racist
You dnt get this sort of people
And in case you didn't notice, the episode was just a trigger to the fact that they're treated like 3rd class citizen

of course amo. never their fault. always someone elses.

maybe if they would assimilate they wouldn't be treated like third class persons.

Gig honey

the topic of the thread is Moroccans vs Germans
And not Muslims vs Germans or German Muslims vs Germans
Not the first time Spiegel drags Islam in a dispute which nothing has to do with it
The subject of the title of your thread is completely wrong
In this case we cannot speak of German Muslims cause I don't see integrated people
To be fair we must find faults on both sides :
to keep on welcoming people for the sake of multiculturalism or maybe cause there are commercial agreements with their countries of origin, without having the capabilities to do it, will increase the clash of civilisations
Asking for schools for Muslims only or accepting Imams nominated by Al Azhar, is not the solution to create integration AT LEAST for the 4th or 5th generations of Arabs and Africans in Europe
I assume you're American so probably the flow toward Europe we're talking about, is slightly similar to that of Cubans or Mexicans but still far
Your luck is that your country is built on "first class immigrants" : what we call in Italy the escape of brains, happens because professors and doctors are fed up of low salaries and 30 years of waiting to get a job based on meritocracy
If you have time, read these two posts :

the jail (http://last-of-iraqis.blogspot.com/2007/08/jail.html)

jordanian answer (http://www.black-iris.com/2007/08/10/iraqis-at-the-queen-alia-airport-in-jordan/)

This is a case in which religion is not in the equation
and it would be the same in Europe, but then an irresponsible jumps out with the announce of a movie and the mess is done