I came to a conclusion that girls cannot be real friends and most If not all are backstabbers, except for family and cousins. They're the only females I can consider friends. It's like girls would wear different types of masks, depending on whom they are willing to impress and at what level. :yuk:

So, do you believe in friendship with females?

"Ina` kaydahuna la3theem" :bored: Sometimes I wish if I was a guy!

NOt really i agree wit u but its the opposite i really think that guys put diff. masks just to be wit grlz and not try to be their friend i honestly think its hard to be a guys best friend unless hes gay and he wont be interested in grlz and same goes wit the grl...soo i think it all depends...

I came to a conclusion that girls cannot be real friends and most If not all are backstabbers, except for family and cousins. They're the only females I can consider friends. It's like girls would wear different types of masks, depending on whom they are willing to impress and at what level. :yuk:

So, do you believe in friendship with females?

"Ina` kaydahuna 3theem" :bored: Sometimes I wish if I was a guy!

Are you a backstabber too? Or are you one of the exceptions?

And if you are an exception, maybe there are a few other exceptions, too?

What do you think?

Talk about an eye catching title :p

The question you ask is "do you believe in friendship with females?". Yeah, but it depends on the female in question (do we share intrests? is she nice? do I feel totally myself with her?). I find it easy to have friendships with guys as well as girls as long as we get along pretty well.

And to your comment about losing all faith in most female-kind, what can I say? Backstabbing has become a normal trait attributed to people (females and males) these days, so alot of it must be going on. But not all females do that hunz :)

Well, I have very very few friends, girls and boys both. In general, if you choose the right people as your friends, you shouldn't face any trouble :)

I came to a conclusion that girls cannot be real friends and most If not all are backstabbers, except for family and cousins. They're the only females I can consider friends. It's like girls would wear different types of masks, depending on whom they are willing to impress and at what level. :yuk:

So, do you believe in friendship with females?

"Ina` kaydahuna 3theem" :bored: Sometimes I wish if I was a guy!

LOOOL .. all this is about what happened on Wednesday ?!! :p

LOL .. i have not yet came to a conclusion about this .. because i believe people are not all the same .. a girl can be as bad a guy and so on .. but i do agree that girls who you are not close to cant be trusted .. its always better if you share your secrets with a close female friend than one that you have nothing against .. (you need something against a girl to black mail her for :p) .. << im serious!

LOOOOOOOOL... Man I thought some Dike hit on you with that title! :p

Yeah I obviously believe in it.. But See wut u need to do is limit the number of friends you allow yourself to get close to.. Like with me for instance.. I used to be close with a lot of girls.. Than as I got older.. I confided with less ppl.. I still talk with everyone but it's nothing more than just fun.. I will never give anyone the power to hurt me unless I REAALLYYY know I can trust the person with my life.. If not than I make sure it stays just casual..

And even if you stick with just ONE close friend you'll be more than happy.. ;)

I got hurt by girl friends alot .. so for that, I became extra caution when making a friend. Not all girls are bad friends but some are. At the end, you just need to screen on who you should trust and who you shouldnt.

Um, well, I can see that you're so neative about girls, maybe coz you went through certain incidents where your friend "a girl" wasn't acting like a real friend.
Anyhow, I belive in somethig, the less friends you have, the better. It's about the quality not the quantity ;). Since the girls is a good person, then definitely she's gonna be a good friend. And vice versa..

I have a kingFish so I can be your friend - lol

Are you a backstabber too? Or are you one of the exceptions?

And if you are an exception, maybe there are a few other exceptions, too?

What do you think?


I'm not a backstabber, I just keep my distance and I'm very straight forward, I speak my mind immedietly without caring if it's going to hurt the person or not. Then again, I could be a backstabber once I notice that this girl is wearing a certain mask, depending on whom she's around. Therefore, I'm a blend of both, but family is an exception.

I don't really have really close girlfriends that I can fully trust, maybe one or two, the rest are related to me one way or the other.

Well you see I totally oppose the title :p
I think to be able to associate with people, gender aside. You SHOULD have masks.
But not masks in the sense that you betray others, but different ways of talking with different people. For example be more conservative with one individual, don't tell this person or that person certain things. Never change who you are, just limit how much you want to share your traits with others.

I have gurl friends and I have guy friends. And I need them both equally. Some things are easier to talk to with a girl. Some things with a guy. Men and women rationalise differently, they go about solving the same problem differently.

I need gurl friends because I need people I relate to, a woman who understand in a way only a woman can.
I need guy friends because I know there is absolutely no sense of competition or jealousy that totally puts me off so many other women.

Well, I have very very few friends, girls and boys both. In general, if you choose the right people as your friends, you shouldn't face any trouble :)


Completely agree. Gender is irrelevant. Respect is everything.

Just don't trust everybody and become a laughingstock.
It's easy.

well girls can be mean and (u know what)

but sometimes u can find real friends
I have been hurt by lot of my friends,but when i think about it .i know i was right i did nothing wrong at all but they started it ... so yeah no i dont tust easily.. but i always try to be nice to everyone no matter what happened to me it wont change me in a bad way

i believe if u never fell down u wont know how to get up;)

I dont trust anyone untill s/he proves to me that they deserve my trust

and oh what a tittle i thought its something about a GAY GUY! aaah i wanted to laugh

loooooool @ the title! really catchy! :p


well, to be honest, ur not the 1st girl i hear complaining about how B|tchy can girls be with thier friends!!

i guess girls are more emotional, that's why they get more attached, and therefore the backstab can be more powerfull...

but i support STING's post...

and, since ur a girl 2, u know that there r exceptions right??

dont loose all ur trust :)

Depends on what sort of person you are that will make you meet the different types of people :)

I had a female friend (co-worker) whose friendship lasted a couple of years. I finally had it with her because I got tired of listening to the backstabbing of other team mates and she just had a very negative attitude about life. When I looked forward to the days she did not come to work then I knew the friendship was over. There are people out there labled as "toxic" friends and they are....they bring you such negativity and life is too short for that kind of crap.

well i have only feeeeew females who i call REAL FRIENDS
they are my mom ,my sisters, aunts and cousins ;) i don't go around trusting and being very close with anybody just like that

My closest friend family wise is my sister. I don't tell my mom everything that goes on but am glad to have my sissy. She is seven years younger and love her to pieces.

I have a few very close female friends and I'm very satisfied with how we treat each other. I cannot see how they can backstab me. We've been friends for as long as 13 years.
To me, it's not a matter of gender. I just don't trust everyone that easily anymore!

I'm not a backstabber, I just keep my distance and I'm very straight forward, I speak my mind immedietly without caring if it's going to hurt the person or not.
But you can't expect your friends to be okay with it if you hurt them!

I believe in friendship regardless of gender, but I also believe that you shouldn't share personal issues unless he/she was a really close trustworthy friend.
Also, less is more. The less friends you have, the better.
The only true friends whom you can share 'everything' with is ur family.

So, do you believe in friendship with females?
Yes very much! :D

Well, I guess for the whole thing, either they are male or female friends. Its how you deal with them, sometimes there are certain people you can call them friends. But, they can't be that close.

Sometimes dealing with people can tell us how to measure the distance between you & them.

I believe guys and girls dont mix well as friends. The longer they spend time together, the more the guy starts liking the girl and stops seeing her as a friend/person but as a girl and she will automatically become beautifull even if she is ugly.

I've read something once about girl's behavior and how they attack people. Girls understand emotion more than guys do, therefore, the use that to their advantage. Most guys don't know how to attack other than going physical and that requires lots of effort and often, a hell lots of consequences so, they just don't bother.

This doesn't mean that they are any better than girls are.
So, to answer your question, I do believe in friendships with females:) I just have to be carefull with what I share.

This is not an uncommon complaint even in the West.

All societies generally hold girls/women less accountable for their actions than men, except for sex. Women can just act clueless and get away with most anything or get what she wants. A man can never do that.

While at the same time women have a biological imperative to ensure the best situation for themselves and their future offspring.

So it is common to find women who are completely self centered when it comes to everyone, besides their own kids.

Guys screw each other over too. But is more direct and upfront, and not done from behind a smile on a pretty face like so many women do.

And the idea that women are the more giving and nurturing is just based only on our experience with our own mothers.

I believe guys and girls dont mix well as friends. The longer they spend time together, the more the guy starts liking the girl and stops seeing her as a friend/person but as a girl and she will automatically become beautifull even if she is ugly.

:angel:Reminds me of the movie: When Harry Met Sally which address this issue.
:6:

But you can't expect your friends to be okay with it if you hurt them!

It's a vice-versa thing, that's why I don't label girls as "friends" they just exist to occupy the planet *wishing I was from the opposite gender* :bored:

I've gotta be honest and say that I find it disturbing that you find guys to be better friends. I know you take things I say rather sensitively but I am actually advising you here. Wait till these guy friends get married (that's if they don't try to hook up with you first), then you'll wonder if they actually were friends cause the moment they get married they'll lose interest and actually might even cut off their connections with you seeing how everyone views friendship with the opposite gender in our society as 'taboo', and if they fail to get what they want from you then they will also lose interest and most likely than not trash you from behind your back and call you names such as 'oh that b*tch did so and so'. I've seen it happen a million times and I have no doubts that it will happen to you too if you continue to 'trust' these guy friends. It's very rare that you'll find a guy who actually respects girls whom are just friends so you kind of strike me as being a bit naive if you think that these guys will not back stab you or that they'll always be there for you when you need to talk to a friend.

I say make good female friends, cause if you really connect with someone from the same gender as a friend of course then that could be for life..it's all about choosing the right people to let into your life.

I am also curious, are these guy friends from msn only?

^ NaBHan, I'm sorry but you've taken it way too far :os I've never mentioned not once that I prefer or label guys as "friends" Guys can't be true friends, guys most if not all are for ma9la7a or would hang around with you for something specific they have in mind. Then again, I have one guy friend whom I trust blindly, but he's an exception 'coz we were friends ever since KG. What I'm trying to say here is that, I've always known that guys can't be real friends, maybe just a hi and bye type of thing, but I've just came to conclude that girls are even worse. Point being is, friendship does not exist in my dictionary.

Generally speaking I do prefer the company of friends with Kebabs

Superbia: But that's not healthy. Friendship is very important, for everyone and not just friendship between family members. Yes you can rely on family members to be around always and look out for you but believe me you can also find complete strangers whom sometimes can be even more reliable and trustworthy. I really hate it when people dismiss something because of a bad experience. I've had my share of bad experiences with friends but that never stopped me from making a brand new friend and if anything my experiences have made me stronger and a better judge of character.

I honestly cannot imagine my life without some of my friends, they truly add alot more spark to it and I'd hate to see you miss out on that just because someone turned out to be wrong for you.

I get what you mean, but if it's just one incident then it wouldn't disturb me much. It's just that girls can't stop hating! I don't get it, when you treat someone so nicely they treat you like crap and don't know how to appreciate your efforts in building the friendship. It gets to a point where you can only hang around with people you can trust and guarantee knowing that they will stand beside you regardless on anything like family.

i thought the title was the dumbest thing i've read in a while
until i got to read your whole thread.....

Well just don't let that stop you from making a new friend, it might be the best thing you do for yourself, and if something bad happens then pick yourself up and start over again..because I guarantee that there will be someone else to catch you, someone better.

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what's up with everyone focusing on the title? sheesh...add to the actual topic instead of fixating on something so trivial.

I get what you mean, but if it's just one incident then it wouldn't disturb me much. It's just that girls can't stop hating! I don't get it, when you treat someone so nicely they treat you like crap and don't know how to appreciate your efforts in building the friendship. It gets to a point where you can only hang around with people you can trust and guarantee knowing that they will stand beside you regardless on anything like family.
i fully sympathise with you. looking back i lost a lot of friends because they lost their respect i had for them.
looking back, the best thing i could have done was to trash it out. starting with 'how could you do (xxxxxxxx) to me?"
maybe their nastiness wasn't intentional.
or maybe it was.
just show them you are not as stupid as they made themselves to look.

The insult and irrelevant part has been deleted - Lym

i agree with what tee said, you have to let them choose you. Just dont get too close to guys because they just want one thing..and knowing that you are young and naive, that just makes it worse and you become the sheep in a pack of wolves:cute:
girls are better friends anyway. True the gossip wont change but at least you will have them when you need them.
so dear superbia, dont be too quick to judge people..only God can judge. When you call me two-faced, you dont know what you are talking about. I have one face which is a whole lot prettier then yours.:) alhamdulilah

and making friends these days is extremely hard because it seems to me that people want to be more to themselves and it's "every man/woman for his/herself". :os

There are some good friends out there so just be patient and they will come to you inshallah.:cute:

I agree with STING becareful of who pick to be your friend and honey don't get mad at least now you know their real color, if they don't appreciate your friendship then its their lose.

Its not easy to make friends with strangers though it takes alot of time to tell if they are worth being close to you or not.. At least thats how it works with me...

you dislike women?


ofcourse women are more sneaky... but when they're friends... they're friends. you just picked the wrong people.
Cuz I know i have girls as friends and family, and i couldn't ask for any better.
sooo... nothing to do with female... just to do with you knowing what friendship's all about and choosing people according to that.
but there's one big thing... they have to choose you too ;)

besides... they're not the only ones who have to be friends to you. you have to be worthy of their friendship.

I think women tend to get too close too soon. They show interest in the person they deal with rather than activities. Which men have more interest in activities than the other person, thats where the difference lies.

I find the title too graphic for my taste

I think women can be either extremely nasty or extremely loyal. It just your luck who befriends you.

I treat all my friends (men and women) with respect and draw a line when it comes to my privacy and personal life. I enjoy my friends and cherish them because we all need friends, but I try to minimize personal conversations and make our friendship so innocent, no secrets sharing.. That's the best way to do it!

I love most of my girl friends ..And yes i agree with you girl friends are really hard to trust as for me i know my friends since i was a child so we know each other and trust each other..

But i have faced moments with them that made me wonder how can they be such backstabbers when we have been friends for such a long time ..I think the answer to that is we grow up and realize how different we all are sometimes we need more attention so we gossip without thinking that that's my best friend im talking about !

It happens you cant say im a perfect friend and i never talked about any of my friends behind there backs ..It doesn’t sound right :p

I have loads of guy and they can me just as worse ..Being a guy is so much fun but then again god created us the right way we cant complain :D