According to Islam, depiction of all Prophets is forbidden - as was seen in the Danish cartoons fiasco.

Does this apply to all Prophets or only to Mohammed ?

Depicting as in showing them pictorially?

I have seen it done in the movies, not quite sure really..

By the way, where do you get all these good questions from?

Depiction in pictures, drawings, films.

Is it allowed ?

Can we make a movie with an actor depicting Mohammed ?

Of course, with Prophet Muhammad, its a big NO.

As with other prophets, I am not sure, I need to do some reading first.

I know what your next question will be:

Why not?

Maybe ?

But from what I've read the depiction of ALL Prophets is forbidden.

Maybe our resident Islamists can help us out here.

No. This applies to all Prophets, not just the Prophet :PBUH:.

Thanks Sophis, didnt know that.

Bec I have seen movies depicting other prophets.

For example, there was a recent program (series) on Sayyida Maryam.

In that case, I think the Iranians aren't good muslims.

Islamic Jesus' hits Iranian movie screens

http://r.m.metimes.com/md/c0b709577fdad3a9863a15b55984f0e7.jpg

TEHRAN (AFP) A director who shares the ideas of Iran's hardline president has produced what he says is the first film giving an Islamic view of Jesus Christ, in a bid to show the "common ground" between Muslims and Christians.

Nader Talebzadeh sees his movie, "Jesus, the Spirit of God," as an Islamic answer to Western productions like Mel Gibson's 2004 blockbuster "The Passion of the Christ," which he praised as admirable but quite simply "wrong".

"Gibson's film is a very good film. I mean that it is a well-crafted movie but the story is wrong -- it was not like that," he said, referring to two key differences: Islam sees Jesus as a prophet, not the son of God, and does not believe he was crucified.

Talebzadeh said he even went to Gibson's mansion in Malibu, California, to show him his film. "But it was Sunday and the security at the gate received the film and the brochure and promised to deliver it," though the Iranian never heard back.

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http://www.metimes.com/Politics/2008/01/13/islamic_jesus_hits_iranian_movie_screens/afp/

When do the riots start ?

Making a movie of any prophets is forbidden, according to islam. That is taken from the ruling that drawing prophets and making statues of them is forbidden. I don't really know why is it forbidden though.

I think the same ruling of statues and drawings is in judaism too, I remember hearing a muslim and a jew arguing with a christian about having pictures and statues of christ on the church, and it shouldn't be.

In Iran and Turkey, they have drawings of Prophet mohammed too :D
I remember Jeff sharing some of those pics, once upon a time.

And I was wondering what's wrong with wudjab, in the beginning, it didn't sound like u at all :XD:

Making a movie of any prophets is forbidden, according to islam. That is taken from the ruling that drawing prophets and making statues of them is forbidden. I don't really know why is it forbidden though.




People have an amazing way of making statues of great people to remember them. And after a while to start worshipping them as well. You see all around, in Thailand for instance. So I think there is a great wisdom in not depicting Prophets.

So the Iranians would basically be going against Islamic teaching by making this movie ?

How come the muslim world is not in a state of uproar ?

Simple, because when a muslim does it, its okay
when a non-muslim does it, its not
I'm sure there are many people who are against it in Iran

Am I missing a /sarcasm off tag Braiki ?

no it's true, really.
It happens everywhere, its human's psychology, but still muslims overreact most of the time

Before anyone gets me wrong.
I'll give an example, my brother says that my father did a big mistake when he took a certain decision.
Then someone else not in family says that my father did a big mistake when he took a certain decision.
In the first case I'd accept it more, since it came from my brother who knows my father, yet has a different impression of him.

So you have some flexibility in choosing to be morally outraged ?

:hyper::hyper:

So the Iranians would basically be going against Islamic teaching by making this movie ?

How come the muslim world is not in a state of uproar ?

if the Christians themselves agree to depict Jesus then why Muslims be in uproar ?
but again as braiki and others stated, it's against Islam to depict all prophets

how you react depends on yourself, wudjab ;)

if the Christians themselves agree to depict Jesus then why Muslims be in uproar ?


You are right, Churches are full of Jesus statues.

What about the movie Tea ?

Try to stick to the topic.

wudjab, you're opening this thread because you want Muslims to go on riots and break stuff? Or you're asking why Iranians have a movie depicting Jesus PBUH?
If the objective is the second here's your answer:
Iran has free speech :cute:
Thread can be locked.

Why this ultra sensitivity ?

I find it strange that a supposedly Islamic country like Iran allows a movie depicting Jesus but protests the depiction of Mohammed

^Oh you find it strange? Good.
What should I...um...do about it?

Nobody's ultra sensitive...
I mean, people can be ultra sensitive in threads about children camps sometimes, but well...

This shows that many muslims simply give lip service to all this respecting of the prophets.

Noting.

This is a discussion forum.

Having something to say ? Go ahead ?

Nothing to say ? Stay away.

Simple as that !

wudj, there's nothing to discuss here if you didn't notice yet.

There actually is.

If theres a prohibition on depiction of Prophets in Islam, how come a muslim country allows one on Jesus ?

Why this ultra sensitivity ?

I find it strange that a supposedly Islamic country like Iran allows a movie depicting Jesus but protests the depiction of Mohammed

lets say that we muslims respect our prophet Mohammed PBUH more than you do to prophet Jesus :D

you do comedy movies displaying prophet jesus and Mary when you guys say he's your God
shame on you :hmm:

You're all missing the point.

Wudjab is saying.. "why the double standard? Why riot when Mohammed is depicted then MAKE a depiction of Jesus?"

That is the essence of this thread.

Why be upset to the point of worldwide riots when one is depicted and not when the other is?

Braiki is on the money, I feel.

wudjab, I just said that 'Muslim countries' though I completely disagree with that term, there's no country that is a 'Muslim country' in the world, could have free speech when it comes to movies. It does sound like the easiest answer, doesn't it? I was just wondering, wudj,, do you want those Muslims who came out in riots, to come out again? Or are you not happy with the fact that they didn't come out this time?

A yes or no to either question will do :cute:

Lets say you're a bloody hypocrite because you're supposed to respect Jesus as well.

How about Muslims in Mulim countries (Islamic Republic of Iran close enough for you ?) not produce movies about Prophets as a good starting point ?

Is this the 'I asked first' game? Cause I asked first and I didn't get this ^ post...

When do the riots start ?


Never
I predict there will be no riots not even when Geert Wilders will come up with his lil movie [am sure you are waiting for it]
I think in the future Muslims will show maturity [that's a hope at least]
Is not double standards
Is the intention that matters here
If truly the intention is an answer to Mel Gibson or a dialogue with Christians, then fine
We are not talking of a movie where Jesus is represented as gay as is happening is AUS
We are not talking about offending anybody

can't wait to see it. i wish they left his hair natural and dark. the blonde job looks bad on that guy.

Never
I predict there will be no riots not even when Geert Wilders will come up with his lil movie [am sure you are waiting for it]
I think in the future Muslims will show maturity [that's a hope at least]
Is not double standards
Is the intention that matters here
If truly the intention is an answer to Mel Gibson or a dialogue with Christians, then fine
We are not talking of a movie where Jesus is represented as gay as is happening is AUS
We are not talking about offending anybody
An Iranian MP says the Netherlands will face widespread protests if it gives the green light to the screening of an anti-Islam movie. (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=39616&sectionid=351020101)

He does not say riots ... but you know how those "protest" can get over blown :rolleyes:

...make a 10-minute film which would reflect his insulting views about the Holy Qur'an.

Why purposley make an insulting movie about a sensitive topic to millions of people around the world?

I don't get it...

He is scared of cultural relativism :rolleyes:

Interview (http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/ned070911mc)

Necessary offtopic :rn:

^ Ban the Quran...that's rich :D

and then people wonder why muslims are so sensitive...

Objection can be in 3 ways:

By hand (boycotting an example I guess).
By tounge.
By heart (means you reject it by your heart).

So Tea, whats your opinion of the depiction of Prophets ?

^ Ban the Quran...that's rich :D

and then people wonder why muslims are so sensitive...
Why?

Saudia confiscates bibles and Christian artifacts, no? Should we be ultra sensitive now?

^If you feel like it, fine...But don't use the very naive term 'we' for Muslims or Christians. I think you should use 'I'. It's much more honest.

Saudi Arabia or Iran do not speak for the 1 or 2 billion Muslims around the globe.
It's a very stupid thing to assume, in my opinion...

^If you feel like it, fine...But don't use the very naive term 'we' for Muslims or Christians. I think you should use 'I'. It's much more honest.

Saudi Arabia or Iran do not speak for the 1 or 2 billion Muslims around the globe.
It's a very stupid thing to assume, in my opinion...
of course. And I agree with you.. And Denmark or rather one person's opinion does not speak for the rest of the non muslim world!

^Never disagreed with that :D