I was talking to a friend about successful women and those women who have power. He said successful women and those who have strong personalities attract him so much, but he wouldn't get involved with one, especially if she's more successful than he is.

I wonder, why should the man be more successful? why would they feel insecure when the woman is successful? when the woman should feel good when the man is powerful...etc?

I was talking to a friend about successful women and those women who have power. He said successful women and those who have strong personalities attract him so much, but he wouldn't get involved with one, especially if she's more successful than he is.

I wonder, why should the man be more successful? why would they feel insecure when the woman is successful? when the woman should feel good when the man is powerful...etc?
Successful woman are those who have fulfilled thier duty. Powerful women are men-disguised in a female body. A woman can't be a woman if she is powerful, and a man is not a man if he is "Weak". A main characteristic of orange is that it smells like orange, and tastes like orange, now how about an orange that smells like strawberry?

And your friend who is attracted to powerful strong personality women, is attracted to them because some men like 'challenges'. Now he wouldn't be involved with one because sure no man wants to marry another 'man'! Men at the very end, need a 'female' who is tender, pure, soft and silky. A man need a woman to 'complete' him not to 'compete' with him!

Looking at your statement above I see the question marks about discrimination, and also includes the scent of questions like : "how mean men are!?". The truth is that this is how women would feel because of the reactions of men being 'conservative' to the woman's so called 'success'. I explained why above, so I won't say it again.

To answer the questions in short:
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Q:I wonder, why should the man be more successful? why would they feel insecure when the woman is successful? when the woman should feel good when the man is powerful...etc?

A: Because success which we are talking about here is in work, not in the family life (which a man would be happy to have his wife successful that way). Now being successful in work, or in an organization makes a woman 'exposed' to more distracting elements in life and less concentrating on her husband and family. Again we have been created with only one brain not with multiple brains. Whoever claims to be able to master all is sure without any doubt a 'liar'!

Bottom line, woman's success in work is an obvious sign of her (fail / expected fail) in her marital life. Be sure to check what I say with married men who have their wives out there running to earn community respect while feeling short enough on her husband's respect knowing that he is less important than her 'fake success'.

He is attracted to these powerful women because power is an awsome aphrodisiac but has a personality conflict with his basic beliefs.

His basic belief that a woman (at least one he would be involved with) must be a subservient little winch.

Some would call it a character flaw ...

Some would call it personal preference ...

I would say if you can't run with the big dogs (http://www.rhapsody.com/tobykeith/15004567_bigdogdaddy) ... stay on the porch! :hyper:

Successful woman are those who have fulfilled thier duty. Powerful women are men-disguised in a female body. A woman can't be a woman if she is powerful, and a man is not a man if he is "Weak".

Men at the very end, need a 'female' who is tender, pure, soft and silky. A man need a woman to 'complete' him not to 'compete' with him!
Here we go again, haroun :P

Well, what do you mean by a women can't be a woman if she's powerful? do you even know what I meant by 'powerful'? and...why do you assume that the man will be weak? (of course, the answer is based on what you think of the word 'powerful')

Now being successful in work, or in an organization makes a woman 'exposed' to more distracting elements in life and less concentrating on her husband and family.

Bottom line, woman's success in work is an obvious sign of her (fail / expected fail) in her marital life. Be sure to check what I say with married men who have their wives out there running to earn community respect while feeling short enough on her husband's respect knowing that he is less important than her 'fake success'.
Again, I wasn't talking about the family. I am talking about the man feeling 'insecure' because his wife is more successful professionally. Since, if you want to use the 'family' card. We can simply talk about those men who travel all the time and barely see their kids to be successful...is that ok?

But, then again...I'm talking about the professional life. One of my friends left his girlfriend because she was making more money than he was. This is what I'm talking about....are guys too proud? do they feel offended when a 'woman' is more successful?

He is attracted to these powerful women because power is an awsome aphrodisiac but has a personality conflict with his basic beliefs.

His basic belief that a woman (at least one he would be involved with) must be a subservient little winch.

Some would call it a character flaw ...

Some would call it personal preference ...

I would say if you can't run with the big dogs (http://www.rhapsody.com/tobykeith/15004567_bigdogdaddy) ... stay on the porch! :hyper:

Hahaha! Oh yeah..:6:

:rolleyes:

I won't even bother replying to haroun's post, but Jack is on the money.

A more successful woman that brings more money and holds a better position, the one who pays all the bills, cleans the house, do the laundry makes the food sleeps in the bed (censored) and goes with husband to a romantic night once in the week, is a magnificent woman who deserves a trophy and nothing less than to make a statue for her! Only a foolish, silly lunatic husband would refuse such a wife/life!

A more successful woman that brings more money and holds a better position, the one who pays all the bills, cleans the house, do the laundry makes the food sleeps in the bed (censored) and goes with husband to a romantic night once in the week, is a magnificent woman who deserves a trophy and nothing less than to make a statue for her! Only a foolish, silly lunatic husband would refuse such a wife/life!

Pfft...silly me, I thought you have a better reply. Ah well...

I think "successful women" find this to be true in general across all cultures, even ours. At least they tend to lament that men don't want to get involved with them because they are successful.

I'm sure part of that is attributable to a flaw in men. But its universality makes me suspect that it goes deeper into human nature than that.

It is no flaw. It is because so many men, (certainly not all) have an ego 'problem'. THAT is the human nature bit.

A successful woman is one who knows her priorities, a balance between work and taking care of her family is essential otherwise she will fail and there's no F in success.

Can I be with a woman who's more successful than I am career wise? Absolutely. Can I be with a woman who flaunts that success in my face and looks at her self as if she's superior or better and neglects her family because of that career? Never.

Fengy:

I think it's probably to do with ineradicable things about human nature that we just don't like to admit. Because they clash with our present day dogmas.

Similarly, we were told for years and years that if boys and girls were raised the same way, our "culturally based" sex differences would disappear. And it was tried by dutiful parents and teachers for generations.

It didn't work. Boys still liked to play with guns and girls with dollies. And if you never taught them to play with guns, they would uses sticks or their fingers.

Now, in Britain, child care workers have been told by the British government that new studies show that raising boys to play "non-violently" is actually damaging to them and they should change. The child care workers of course know better and will be d*mned if they are going to change.

http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2007/12/war-on-boys-teachers-ignoring-science.html

A successful woman is one who knows her priorities, a balance between work and taking care of her family is essential otherwise she will fail and there's no F in success.

Can I be with a woman who's more successful than I am career wise? Absolutely. Can I be with a woman who flaunts that success in my face and looks at her self as if she's superior or better and neglects her family because of that career? Never.

This sounds like a balanced approach to me.

You know, I remember a thread in an Arabic forum talking about how the more the education (for a female) the less the femininity.

They blame education on making the woman turn into the type Nabhan described, “a a woman who flaunts that success in (her husband’s) face and looks at herself as if she's superior or better and neglects her family because of that career.” Because they see that women before took care of their families and they weren’t educated. The woman’s work back then was only what was necessary for her house and her family. That’s why men and women before were ... A9eeleen (Original:p). They were raised well by their mothers.

Now? ... The child opens his eyes and finds the housemaid with a warm bottle of milk. The mother? At the office.

I hope I didn't go off topic :p

^^

UmKhalidy, if that's off topic, then there's no point to the thread!

There is a connection between a woman's natural role in life and the reaction most men will have to her.

I was talking to a friend about successful women and those women who have power. He said successful women and those who have strong personalities attract him so much, but he wouldn't get involved with one, especially if she's more successful than he is.

I wonder, why should the man be more successful? why would they feel insecure when the woman is successful? when the woman should feel good when the man is powerful...etc?

it's true..the ones with strong personalities are the ones that are the most successful..

they guy would probably feel insecure because knowing that his woman is more successful than he is, just proves that women CAN do better then men! :6:
It's about personality and capability

Then I'll go on:p

On the same thread, the male members were advising each other on how to get the 'Perfect Wife'.

1) She should be a woman who did not complete her higher education: Because then she won't have a 'long tongue', she wouldn't have mixed with other men and other reasons I don't remember.

2) She should not be the type of woman who goes online. (With the male members saying that they will never marry a girl who goes online and joins forums ... ra7at 3aleina/ how unlucky:p)

3) And she should not work, ever. What really annoyed me was that they were talking badly about women working as nurses. The male member who opened the thread was describing his first day at a Hospital. If I didn't know he was talking about a hospital I would've thought he was talking about a nightclub!

... So if some men have accepted the change. Apparently, others haven't. They are trying hard to make the others stay with the same idea of women belonging at home. Women should be ignorant and know nothing on what's going on, if they do, then they are not different than men.

You could imagine what some of those comments made the female members feel like. It was the majority who thought this way. Really offending for the female members to hear things like : Do not marry a woman who goes online, a woman who does will never be the perfect wife for you.

I just wanted to remind everyone and myself that Khadija Bint Khuwailid May God be pleased with her was a famous business woman. She was wealthier than the Prophet :PBUH: when they got married.


But then again our mother Khadija is not like any other woman.

She balanced everything. She took care of her husband :PBUH: and children and knew their rights. And at the same time was succesful as a business woman.

Well, I think there is a difference between a woman with an active mind and personality -- an educated, thinking woman -- and a woman who sees success purely in terms of business and work outside of the home.

What is puzzling about the question is why a woman can't be as or more successful in different terms from a man. Is being a mother who stays home and raises her own children rather than going to work "less successful" than her husband?

but, umkhaled, if a woman studies for the first 25 years of her life, she will want to put her knowledge to practice. To play a role in society, besides motherhood. That's why some men would rather keep women stupid.

Why do I get annoyed at tunnel vision replies about the woman's role being solely that of a mother's? Because no one for a minute questions if the man's role as a father is at risk if he also goes out to work. If he also has a social life outside the house.

Now either a father's role is something that only takes a couple of minutes before or even after bedtime.. or I'm not exactly sure why a mother's role is at risk if she also works.

Children do not remain babies attached to its mother's nipple. They grow. They start feeding themselves and dressing themselves. Washing themselves and walking themselves to school. By the time they are 16, they are practically as able as adults to care for themselves physically.

Just as a woman can spend a day out shopping, or watching reruns of 'bab al hara' or having half the street over for coffee while the kids are at school, she could spend that day working. Earning a living and being self sufficient. Something for her kids to look up to.

Yes. That is a successful woman. A woman who can put her spare time to good use, and believe me, a mother has ALOT of spare time unless she enjoys washing the same floors twice and three times a day.

Fathers are not the primary caregivers for young children.

Anywhere.

In any culture.

There's a reason for that.

That's when motherhood is key and irreplaceable.

Either you raise your children or you hire someone to do it.

Men won't.

No doubt there are miseries and frustrations in that role. There are plenty of miseries and frustrations in the world of work, too.

Fathers are not the primary caregivers for young children.

Anywhere.

In any culture.I was for 3 months out of the year for 8 years.

In my culture ...

Men will ... Men do ...

I'm sure you would too if you found yourself in that position.

Cavemen didn't really 'think' about this. They just saw it natural that a woman stays at home and cooks, and they're out hunting.

Jack:

I HAVE found myself in that position. And one does what one has to do. I can walk and burp babies and change nappies and dance and sing them to truth with the best of them.

I'd like to see what your wife has to say about how much care she put in in that time, though.

But all you have to do is look at the number of men in today's "liberated" world who stay home and take care of their kids, even in places like Europe, to see that you are totally wrong.

I think your attitude amounts to yet another example of hard-wired sex differences:

Tell them what they want to hear. It's not polite to contradict the ladies.

Just a new form of gallantry.

Fathers are not the primary caregivers for young children.

Anywhere.

In any culture.

There's a reason for that.

That's when motherhood is key and irreplaceable.

Either you raise your children or you hire someone to do it.

Men won't.

No doubt there are miseries and frustrations in that role. There are plenty of miseries and frustrations in the world of work, too.
This is not true and you know it. Men are not the primary caregivers because they have a choice. There is always someone else WILLING to do it.

But, just like women with your kind of thinking have no choice but to work should their husbands die or get seriously ill, (realising the potential they had but never dared exploit), there are as man men who's wives die or become very ill and need to play a balanced role.

Other men, like my husband, choose to play a balanced role.. like... out of choice. If there's one thing he's brilliant at, it's being a great dad. Coming from me, you know by what standards I am talking. Although the younger one spends more time with me now, when she goes to school in a 8 months time, like the older one, they would be both seeing me and their dad equally. Equally tending to their needs. I'll cook, he helps with homework. I'll get them washed, he'll sit with them and watch tv or tell them a story while I prepare their uniforms for school the next day.. Equally sharing parenting duties. That's why we're both called 'Parents'.

You stayed home and took care of the kids when they were young.

Your husband went to work during the day.

I'd say that pretty much proves the point.

That's the pattern of human existence.

You just don't see the reverse very much. You just don't. And you won't, no matter how much ideologizing goes on.

You stayed home and took care of the kids when they were young.

Your husband went to work during the day.

I'd say that pretty much proves the point.

That's the pattern of human existence.

You just don't see the reverse very much. You just don't. And you won't, no matter how much ideologizing goes on.
Like I said, motherhood goes on past the first 3 years of your kid's life. We've all agreed that a woman needs to be there fulltime for her toddler. Once the child starts going to school, what does a mother do?

To stay at home when your kids are 6 and 9 and 16 and 19 is absurd. With all due respect to any mothers here who do, it's laziness. Or they have no other choice or because they might not be educated enough for the working world.

Housework, unless you own a palace and keep pigs in it, should not consume your whole day. And if it did, I would rather PAY for a maid while I went out and did something better than mop floors.

Okay, if we all agree that mothers should be the ones taking care of their kids for the first three years, that's much more than many feminists would admit.

I don't think mothers have to stay at home when their kids are 19.

But I think there's a good argument that the mothers and the kids should stay at home far beyond the age of three.

And there is a very good argument that most women don't really WANT careers and most men DO and that that is because of innate sex differences which modern society doesn't want to recognize.

I doubt if you could see my friends -- all high powered intellectual women with lots of kids who stayed home to educate their kids -- you would call them lazy. They work as hard as their husbands do or harder. And they have plenty of intellectual interests without needing to go for "success" in the business or academic world.

"Home" is not an imaginary concept. And it's not an insult. It's not the same as having an apartment you go to at night. The phenomenon of "latchkey kids" coming home to empty apartments when their parents are both away working and all the myriad problems they have is a result of modern self-hypnosis about sex roles and the distortion and destruction of family life.

I'm all for making exceptions, Fengy. But I'm also for guarding against self-delusion. And I'm also for recognizing the difference between basic models of life and unusual patterns that diverge from them.

Jeff,

You say that men won't step up? Then you say that you have to do what you have to do.

Here's 2 personal examples that I know of.

1. Co worker was married and had 3 kids (all girls 6, 4, 1 year olds). He finally had enough of his drug addict wife and divorced her. He got custody of the children and raised them on his on (with "some" help from his mother).

He refused many times to work overtime because of his children. These girls are grown today and to the best of my knowledge are as normal ... as most any other children. Well behaved, never did drugs and the oldest is married today. He will be a grandfather soon :hyper:

2. Two of my co workers were married. She became pregnant and when she had the child they both asked for maternity leave! HR freaked out and did not know what to do. They finally came to an agreement and let them BOTH take maternity leave, just not both at the same time. She would take off one week and he took off the next for a total of 12 weeks as I remember. It worked for them.

I'm sure there are tons and tons of this type of examples today.

Would it be ideal if we were all rich, none of us had to work and we could all stay at home and raise our children ... sure.

Some want more ... some don't. I'm not the one and you're not the one to tell these people ... NO!

I can see how some men feel insecure around women who make more money than they do. Just like some women do not want to be with a man who is better looking than she is.

Personally, I would love to meet a successful woman who wants to work while I stay home and be Mr Mom.

Work sucks.

But Jack, I'm not saying that no men under any circumstances can possible raise their children. Of COURSE they can.

I'm saying that that's not the natural pattern of society or human nature.

People can do all sorts of things when they are forced to.

What I'm saying is that the ultimate proof of your bizarre yet popular thesis would be if there were an emerging social pattern. There isn't. Even in feminized countries, men just don't stay home and take care of the kids. They don't.

Women do.

The fact that you can find noble exceptions doesn't change the pattern that has always existed everywhere.

And always will.

Men are not by nature domestic child care creatures. Women are.

A number of women find satisfaction in fulfilling roles that are normally male. A handful of them can heroically do both.

A handful of men find satisfcation in infant care.

That changes nothing.

Here is a German magazine article that shows the other side of the coin:

A new wave of anti-feminism is taking hold of Germany. Former career women-turned-housewives are spreading the word about a "new femininity" which encourages women to stay at home and embrace motherhood.

The anonymous letter makes for heartbreaking reading. "Dragging myself from job to job, I used to feel so useless. I wanted to be special but didn't know how -- I was neither fish nor flesh." For this angst-ridden career woman, salvation finally came in the full-bellied shape of motherhood. "With my husband and daughter at my side, I'm so happy and free now," she proclaims.

The face of the anti-feminist revolution: Eva Herman, author of "The Eva Principle" and its follow-up "Dear Eva Herman" (pictured).

The face of the anti-feminist revolution: Eva Herman, author of "The Eva Principle" and its follow-up "Dear Eva Herman" (pictured).
What sounds like a scene out of a 1950s TV sitcom is in fact a letter written to Eva Herman, the German author of the controversial bestseller "The Eva Principle" ("Das Eva Prinzip"), sub-titled "Towards a New Femininity." The principle in question rests on a series of tenets so old-fashioned they seem almost revolutionary again: Motherhood instead of emancipation, child-rearing instead of career-climbing, devoted marriage instead of egoistic self-fulfillment.

The 262 pages behind the pink cover of "The Eva Principle" are full of anti-feminist anger. Herman feels that nothing less than the survival of the country is at stake -- Germans will "die out" if women don't change their behavior, she says. She sees herself as courageously breaking a "taboo" by criticizing women's liberation.

"Let's just say it loud," Herman writes. "We women have overburdened ourselves -- we allowed ourselves to be too easily seduced by career opportunities." She recommends women exchange the cold sphere of work for the "colorful world of children" and discover their "destiny of nurturing the home environment."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,470941,00.html

More and more women in the West are coming to grips with the suspicion that they have been lied to and cheated and that "feminism" doesn't deliver them but rather enslaves them...

I am not for abandoning kids. :rolleyes:

I am for women being self sufficient and doing what they enjoy doing best during their free time. Now, if that is polishing the silver to some women, then great. But if it means being gainfully occupied elsewhere to others, why does it become a problem?

Let's not forget the bottom line here.

Women going to work during the time that their kids are not home versus women watching tv, having friends over for coffee, sleeping, or out shopping during that same time.

http://www.rebeldad.com/stats.htm

Jeff. You talk like all mothers are forced to work. If they need to go out and work, like should they be single mothers, then they have no choice. It has nothing to do with femminism.

But if a woman sees herself as a career woman, someone who is doing something OTHER than the laundry during the day, then why shouldn't she? it's her CHOICE.

Once, I argued against butchering little girl's genitals and you told me "Who are you to say they shouldn't?"

So, jeff.. who are you to say women who want to work, shouldn't?

But Jack, I'm not saying that no men under any circumstances can possible raise their children. Of COURSE they can.

I'm saying that that's not the natural pattern of society or human nature.

People can do all sorts of things when they are forced to.

What I'm saying is that the ultimate proof of your bizarre yet popular thesis would be if there were an emerging social pattern. There isn't. Even in feminized countries, men just don't stay home and take care of the kids. They don't.

Women do.

The fact that you can find noble exceptions doesn't change the pattern that has always existed everywhere.

And always will.

Men are not by nature domestic child care creatures. Women are.

A number of women find satisfaction in fulfilling roles that are normally male. A handful of them can heroically do both.

A handful of men find satisfcation in infant care.

That changes nothing.

I'm not saying men should stay home, jeff! All I'm saying why many men feel that they should be the ones who're successful PROFESSIONALLY? if the woman makes more money, many men feel awkward...why? it's just like how many men refuse to stay in a place which belongs to the wife...why? is it because of their ego?

I'm not saying men should stay home, jeff! All I'm saying why many men feel that they should be the ones who're successful PROFESSIONALLY? if the woman makes more money, many men feel awkward...why? it's just like how many men refuse to stay in a place which belongs to the wife...why? is it because of their ego?
YES!
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More and more women in the West are coming to grips with the suspicion that they have been lied to and cheated and that "feminism" doesn't deliver them but rather enslaves them...

People just want what they can't have.

I think more and more women have realized that Men really don't have it that great after all. It's a jungle and a rat race and it gets old.

And that given the option they would rather stay home and be "watching tv, having friends over for coffee, sleeping, or out shopping".

A man would be too much of a sissy if he didn't like his woman being successful.

Successful woman are those who have fulfilled thier duty. Powerful women are men-disguised in a female body. A woman can't be a woman if she is powerful, and a man is not a man if he is "Weak". A main characteristic of orange is that it smells like orange, and tastes like orange, now how about an orange that smells like strawberry?


What the hell are you saying? are you saying that women must be weak, and that she shouldn't do anything to try to be successful, so that she can make her "weak" man to be superior? :hyper:

you're free to do whatever you wanna do with your life,to be a weak loser or a powerful successful person, either you are a man or a women. Gender has nothing to do with it at all. I think A man who thinks his wife/partner shouldn't be so successful and powerful has deep self esteem issues!

YES!
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Not necessarily. I think it's because women are already bossy by nature and if they have too much power (in this case professional success) then they'd feel that they don't really need their men and will end up bossing them even more.

Yes..we're on to you women..you just want everything..and if you had balls as well then i'm sure u'd torture and burn every man on earth. :P

Not necessarily. I think it's because women are already bossy by nature and if they have too much power (in this case professional success) then they'd feel that they don't really need their men and will end up bossing them even more.

Yes..we're on to you women..you just want everything..and if you had balls as well then i'm sure u'd torture and burn every man on earth. :P
Let's not forget exactly who *was* tortured and burnt to death here... :hyper:

Joking aside..

I know men who have no problem with working with women or even having female bosses. They won't have problems with a partner who earns more either.. because earning power means little in a marriage.. it (should) all become something that belongs to both partners. Realistically, one partner with good earning power is good news for both.

But egoistically, some men feel like they should be better earners than women. It's because they need to feel more powerful in all areas. Even in areas where money comes in.

How many men would like a woman to correct them?
Some don't mind. But many will. Why? It's a pride thing. An ego thing. Nothing to do with how right she was and or how wrong.

In the past, women were expected to not correct a man. To not earn more than him. Once they weren't expected to anymore, and once we realised that not all men expect that either, it made it quite obvious that it has nothing to do with natural capabilities and all that crap. Men are not gods. And many men don't expect to be treated like gods. Which makes women eye up those who do and think... "are these demands and expectancies unrealistic and unfair?"

Then they look at the men who look at women as equal beings, humans, not a pair of legs and a skirt, and realise they have equal potential.. that they've been led to believe they are naturally weaker, naturally more stupid because of their gender to keep them back.. to feed the egos that need to be fed.

And to prove my point, a man's first worry if his wife begins to earn more than him is "What will the lads say?", how other men will now see him.

A man who treats a woman like a queen is a hero to every woman and a wimp to every man. It just depends on who's impression matters most to him. On which one feeds his ego better.

We all have ego's that need to be fed. Nothing wrong with that.. but and it definitely has a lot to do with this though.

Some men "here" try to "show" big support for women because they know that they are going to get lots of complements based on that. Truth and honesty is now a cave man's sign, you better wake up and see how the world is going!

I can see that most women now have achieved their so called 'freedom' and I can see them also dried up and consumed in a useless way. Even that female president who was killed few days ago, wasn't it more logical if she had stayed away from this and kept herself busy raising up a kid or two she would have benefited the world more!

I think it is how modern life wants to squeeze every drop of blood in woman and leave her dry on the endless road of "seeking freedom"!

Fake dream motivated by fake fear/hope, nothing right will come out of this combination...I think so.

I can see that most women now have achieved their so called 'freedom' and I can see them also dried up and consumed in a useless way. Even that female president who was killed few days ago, wasn't it more logical if she had stayed away from this and kept herself busy raising up a kid or two she would have benefited the world more!

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What about the male leaders....why wouldn't they avoid all the killing and stay away?

You're saying we shouldn't have beliefs and fight for them?

What about the male leaders....why wouldn't they avoid all the killing and stay away?

You're saying we shouldn't have beliefs and fight for them?
Males have wider chests more muscles and more stamina to bare the consequences, women are so fragile and delicate why put them in the battle field when there is no need?

Why a woman should stand in the middle of (Men X Men) conflict? Don't get surprised if you see a torn-apart cat in a fight between lions. It should have stayed far away!

Males have wider chests more muscles and more stamina to bare the consequences, women are so fragile and delicate why put them in the battle field when there is no need?
So if we put you in a battle with Fengy...you think you'd win? :hyper:

Why a woman should stand in the middle of (Men X Men) conflict? Don't get surprised if you see a torn-apart cat in a fight between lions. It should have stayed far away!



Don't forget, the lioness is the one who hunts ;)

So if we put you in a battle with Fengy...you think you'd win? :hyper:
She will win, I won't wound a female unless she is so much willing for it. True men won't go in war with women. Women aren't made for that!

Don't forget, the lioness is the one who hunts ;)That is true, because the lion is the one busy fighting for the territory & safety of the heard from any other intruder! And so you think the lion will die from starvation if his lioness died in an a Safari Car Accident?

She will win, I won't wound a female unless she is so much willing for it. True men won't go in war with women. Women aren't made for that!
Wrong excuse, lol. Trust me, very wrong!

That is true, because the lion is the one busy fighting for the territory & safety of the heard from any other intruder!
Nah, it's more like because he's too lazy sleeping.

Plus, you missed the point, haroun =)

Should I mention Khawla bint Al-Azwar?

That is true, because the lion is the one busy fighting for the territory & safety of the heard from any other intruder! And so you think the lion will die from starvation if his lioness died in an a Safari Car Accident?

the lion sleeps 18 hours a day.
some protection.
all the alpha lion is , he's a sperm donor to provide cubs of good stock to keep the race going.
other than that, the 'king of the jungle' myth is all b.s.
lions are good to make babies and to jump through circles of fire at the crack of the whip.
other than that....
it's the lioness that keeps the roost surviving.

but back to topic.

women are more capable of keeping family, having a job, providing etc. because multi tasking comes natural to us (through evolution)
i don't know many dads who bring up their children single handedly, keep house, a successful job etc.
of such mums, i do know quite a lot. and they do a very good job as well.

So if we put you in a battle with Fengy...you think you'd win? :hyper:

Don't forget, the lioness is the one who hunts ;)
ROFLMAO!!!