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UmKhalid
25-12-07, 03:56 PM
I was wondering, by tradition, which parent names the child?

And in your opinion, who is it who is supposed to name the child?

Is it the mother who was pregnant with the baby for 9 months and went through all the pain, and is the who is going to have to take care of the baby afterwards?

Or the father who had to pay all the expenses throughout the pregnancy and was thinking day and night of the health of both the mother and baby?

More questions ...

Who named you?

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?

NiGhTFaCe
25-12-07, 04:15 PM
Who named you?
I don't know.

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
I don't know.

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
No.


Why making a big deal of it?! Both can suggest names & they should give the name they agree on.

Muggle
25-12-07, 04:25 PM
I don't think one parent should have the say and exclude the other. They both have 9 months to discuss this lol! They can also do it in turns if they don't agree on names (that is, if they have more than 1 child).

Who named you?
My father.

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?Maybe 2 by my dad, 2 by my mom and 1 by my grandfather. I'm not really sure.

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
No, but it happened with my little sister.

squinty
25-12-07, 05:48 PM
Who named you?
My aunt:cute:


From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
all of them were named by my parents i think. They agreed on the same name or something...


Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
Nope.

squinty
25-12-07, 05:50 PM
As for your other Q's... I think if someone can give the new bron baby a nice name they have the right to name him/her! :cute:

Charm
25-12-07, 10:57 PM
Who is it who is supposed to name the child?
Both should agree on this.

Who named you?
My dad.

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
Me and my last brother were named by my dad rest were named by mama.

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
No

Amjad
25-12-07, 10:59 PM
I only know that my brother is the one who named me. And I also know that my sister suggested another name (which I don't remember) and when my parents picked the name my brother suggested, my sis was disappointed, lol.

AMARANT
25-12-07, 11:26 PM
i think both can suggest names and agree on a certain name ...


Who named you?
My Father


From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
not sure, i think 3 by dad and 3 by mom?



Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
nop, they both wanted to name me (Muhannad) but they both agreed they should change the name ;)

MoZeS
25-12-07, 11:39 PM
i dont care whoever names the child, at end both of your parents will have to call you by your prescribed name whether they like it or not. lol.

i was named by my grandmother. and im not bothered lol i like my name. and so for my siblings, some of them were named by people Other than my parents! it doesnt matter.

ToomuchaT
26-12-07, 01:18 AM
There are some people are named by guests or visitors who might coincidentally be one of the first people to hear about the new born.

My sisters were named by my father but my 10 brothers and I were named by different members of the family but most by mother.

Lym
26-12-07, 01:18 AM
I think it is all about the arrangement that the parents come to before they have a child. I know some parents who have agreed that if the mother has boys, the father names them, and if she has girls, then the mother names them. I know other parents who suggest names, write it on a piece of paper, mix it in a bowl, then get the grandfather to pick it out of the bowl. I think the best idea is to throw out different names you both fancy, and I am sure you're bound to find a name you both alike.

With my parents, my father named three of my siblings, and my mother named me - her last child. We all start with "L", so that restricted the choices of names we can be given.

But with all honesty, I think the mother has more of a right to name her children than the father, as you mentioned because she carried him/her for 9 months and suffered the most. It would be a great "gift" from her husband to let her name her children. However, it is also very considerate if the mother after going through all that, lets her husband choose a name as a "gift" to him for making her a mother :love:.

Rock Devil
26-12-07, 01:22 AM
Who named you?My granfather.

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?No one.

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?Yes

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 04:27 PM
The thing is, I've seen many husbands who expect the wife to agree on the name they bring up for reasons like It's his Father/Grandfather/ whoever 's name.

And then when they have a daughter he also expects the wife to agree on the name he brought up because it's his Mother/Grandmother's name.

So I thought maybe this is tradition, that traditionally it is the man who is supposed to name the children, and it is rude for the wife to say No, I don't want my child to have your mother/father's name.

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 04:29 PM
With my parents, my father named three of my siblings, and my mother named me - her last child. We all start with "L", so that restricted the choices of names we can be given.

Haha, that's nice! This means all four of you have the same initials. But you're right, it does restrict the choices of names, maybe this way there won't be much arguments on choosing what name.

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 04:32 PM
There are some people are named by guests or visitors who might coincidentally be one of the first people to hear about the new born.

Very interesting! - If the parents don't agree on the name, would they reject it? Or is it rude to?

MoZeS
26-12-07, 05:05 PM
I personally dont want my child to have my wife's dad's name or my dad's name... i call for Diversity. if my child had the same name of an existing family member, then i guess the naming process will be just boring!
i agree with the "pick a paper" idea, maybe a bowl of papers can be put in front of the baby, and let the baby pull out a name for himself! that would be awesome.

cLueLess
26-12-07, 05:28 PM
My brother was named after my late great grandfather, so he's had his name chosen for him long before he was born, probably by the whole (extended) family. My sisters and I were named by both my parents, using the small pieces of paper and bowl method.

NicoBambi
26-12-07, 08:06 PM
I think the parent or bro/sis should name the child.

Who named you?
My bro
From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
My bro by my mum

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
No.

ToomuchaT
26-12-07, 11:02 PM
Very interesting! - If the parents don't agree on the name, would they reject it? Or is it rude to?

It's something with arab tradition and culture to appreciate their visitor.. especially if that visitor someone recognized you would have the honor that your child to be named by him.

It happened with my family, my brother who is just older than me was supposed to be named my name.. but it happened we had one of my grandmother relatives and he said we call him Mohammed.. my parent did not mind that especially the name is far much better than mine lol. *that's according to my parent*

It's not rude if you do not accept.. but it's showing some sort of respect to that person and how dear s/he is to you.

This is not happening any more .. especially people are addicted to the brand new names instead of the gold ones.

Dam3eti
26-12-07, 11:11 PM
I don't think there's a rule for who names the child! Each parent has the right to choose.

anyway
Who named you?
My sister, she named me after her bestfriend at the time..

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
I think all were named by my father lol.

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
No, but I think this happened when naming my sis.

PsYcHo
26-12-07, 11:13 PM
This is not happening any more .. especially people are addicted to the brand new names instead of the gold ones.

Gold names? Are there silver and bronze ones too?:rolleyes:

There are common ones like Mohammad, Fatma, Mariam, Ali, Ahmed etc but I don't think there are any 'golden' names. Besides what's wrong with new names? At the end of the day it comes down to the parents and their personal choice of naming their child whether its after someone or not :).

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 11:16 PM
ToomuchaT, Would've been a problem if the name they proposed wasn't as nice. But I understand the idea of appreciating the visitor, especially that they are old people who would do this.

Seeing from the answers, it is not something fixed. Any parent can name, so that's a good sign, maybe I can get away with the name Khalid :p

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 11:19 PM
Gold names? Are there silver and bronze ones too?:rolleyes:

There are common ones like Mohammad, Fatma, Mariam, Ali, Ahmed etc but I don't think there are any 'golden' names. Besides what's wrong with new names? At the end of the day it comes down to the parents and their personal choice of naming their child whether its after someone or not :).


There are names that we are not used to, those names which ToomuchaT referred to as golden are seen that way because of the history of the name and its beautiful meaning.

But nowadays, people choose very weird names for their children, which is sad really, once I met an Omani OMANI boy named Danielle. Both his parents are Omani to the bone, I would've understood if the mother was a foreigner, but both Omani.

But then it's none of our business. :p < After what!

PsYcHo
26-12-07, 11:20 PM
Who named you?
My Father.

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
My sister was named by both of my parents ( I think) and my brother was named by my father.

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
No. I think it was pre-decided; if I was a girl they'd name by that name. Besides, the day I was born, my dad was miles away and naturally my mom was exhausted so I don't think either of them wanted to disagree on anything at that time.

PsYcHo
26-12-07, 11:26 PM
There are names that we are not used to, those names which ToomuchaT referred to as golden are seen that way because of the history of the name and its beautiful meaning.

But nowadays, people choose very weird names for their children, which is sad really, once I met an Omani OMANI boy named Danielle. Both his parents are Omani to the bone, I would've understood if the mother was a foreigner, but both Omani.

But then it's none of our business. :p < After what!

Yeah but even old or 'golden' ones have nice meanings but are hard to pronounce or have combinations of letters that sound weird and out of place. But same goes with the new ones. I've had my share of very weird new names. I don't like those jam3 names on girls like Abyar, Ashgan, Anfal, Al7an etc etc but I guess to each their own.

Lym
26-12-07, 11:33 PM
Daniel is a prophets name. So it is fine ;)

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 11:35 PM
Then why not start naming our children: Jacob, Jesus, Ashmael instead of Ya'qoob, Essa and Ismael.

ToomuchaT
26-12-07, 11:37 PM
PsYcHo .. when I said gold was trying to implement the rule of "old is gold".. I agree there is no silver or bronze names..and as UmKhalid explained.


UmKhalid.. if we talk about the old days it would be a major problem if I rejected the name that was proposed by that guest.. in those days such a thing was treated like insulting your guest.

But now days it's easy to over come it by creating any drama about the proposed name and the other party will just be ok with it.

Lym.. lol.. imagine Danielle or David Al-Mawali?? .. using the Quranic name is okay but not the english translation.

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 11:38 PM
Oops, I just searched, Danielle is the female variant of the name Daniel. Sorry, my bad.

Lym
26-12-07, 11:48 PM
No, there is no Arabic equivalent to Daniel! Not like John which is Yahya, Jesus which is 3issa... etc. That's what I am trying to say.

PsYcHo
26-12-07, 11:50 PM
PsYcHo .. when I said gold was trying to implement the rule of "old is gold".. I agree there is no silver or bronze names..and as UmKhalid explained.
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Yeah I know 'Old is gold' but that doesn't necessarily apply to everything. There are some old names that are nice but at the same time there are some that aren't. For example, I have the most common name EVER which is also old btw but I don't like it. Many disagree with me, especially my parents (duh), but at the same time I don't think any other name would suit me lol regardless of me not liking it. My friend has the same name and shes on the same boat as I am. It all comes down to taste I guess.

UmKhalid
26-12-07, 11:50 PM
That's because there wasn't a Prophet named Daniel mentioned in the Qur'an.
It's only mentioned in the Torah.

You don't find Jews naming their children: Mohammed.

Lym
26-12-07, 11:53 PM
^ Then why does the Omani government allow it if they don't believe it existed? My cousin was named a "unique" name, and my aunt had to fight and bring evidence to show that it is indeed in the history books in Arabic as he was a prophet or a sa7abi (don't remember exactly). That is the same case with Daniel.

UmKhalid
27-12-07, 12:01 AM
Don't know.

They could've used your argument: He was a Jewish Prophet.

Or ... Does Wikiepdia count as evidence? :p

Lym
27-12-07, 12:05 AM
^^ Not reliable evidence anyways. With the government, you've to show them using history books and the like about the name's background, and that is a name of a prophet or sa7abi or whatever. And it takes a lot for them to believe :inno:

MoZeS
27-12-07, 12:12 AM
^ John is not Yahya... John is Yohanna! (يوحنا) :P

Lym
27-12-07, 12:14 AM
^ No, Yahya is John the Baptist ;).

MoZeS
27-12-07, 12:16 AM
^ but remember the old Pope who passed away a few years ago... John Paul II, if you heard his name in arabic news networkds they called him "يوحنا بولس الثاني"... (yohanna)

i dont know maybe there could be another
pronounciation possibly.

Dam3eti
27-12-07, 12:18 AM
HUH?! the government can also interfere while naming the child?!

MoZeS
27-12-07, 12:21 AM
^ this is Crazy!
(no offence to our gov, but thats really unnecessary!)

we can't name any child "Qaboos" lol, its only for one.
and...
if we had to show historical evidence of people who existed with a rare name, then how could those old people have their names approved, did Their parents Also have to approve their child's name from -even more historical- evidence? this is CRAZY!!!

Lym
27-12-07, 12:22 AM
Scroll to the bottom of this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist#References_to_John_.28Yahya.29_in _the_Qur.27an) and there you will see all the English to Arabic translation concerning the names of the prophets.

ToomuchaT
27-12-07, 03:51 AM
we can't name any child "Qaboos" lol, its only for one.



I do not think that's true since there are many people with that name especially the last couple of years it started to spread.

True there are few *I guess only 2" restrictions to use that name.

NiGhTFaCe
27-12-07, 04:48 AM
we can't name any child "Qaboos" lol, its only for one.
From where you are getting this?! :os I read around kids here in Oman are been given this name.

People just create rumors, plus I think the some find it too unique to be used.

UmKhalid
27-12-07, 08:32 AM
What I know is that if they chose a name which is 'not from the list', they can pay more and the name is accepted. Maybe this whole 'bring evidence' scene is something new, seeing that people are misusing this and bringing new unknown names in.

The name Qaboos as Nightface said is very common! People think they're not allowed to use it so they don't take it in the first place, just to stay away from trouble.

QuEeN
27-12-07, 12:39 PM
I was wondering, by tradition, which parent names the child?
i don't think there's a certain tradition to name the child

And in your opinion, who is it who is supposed to name the child?
i think both parents should come up with suggestions and agree on a name :p

Who named you?
Mom :D

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
all three of us were named by mom :p

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
no but it happend with my other sister :p my mom was gona name her after my grandma (dad's mother) but grandma didn't agree coz it was like an omen or something :p but that's good for my sis coz she got a better name haha no offence to grandma (may she rest in peace)

QuEeN
27-12-07, 12:43 PM
we can't name any child "Qaboos" lol, its only for one.


i actually know a kid called Qaboos bin Saeed :XD:

Scarlet
01-01-08, 07:11 PM
By tradition, which parent names the child?
I think the father names the child. But in some cases, both the mother and the father chose the name together. It's "their" child after all.

And in your opinion, who is it who is supposed to name the child?
Both the parents.

Who named you?
My mom and dad.
Mom wanted to name me Riyana though.

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
Sis was named by my mom.
2 of my bros were names by my dad, and 1 by my mom.

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
It's not that my dad didn't agree. It's just that he had a better name in mind. And thank God they both agreed on it! :XD:

WoLF DoLL
03-01-08, 03:21 AM
I never heard of having a tradition on who should name the child :os!

Who named you?

Me mommy. :p

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?

I have no Idea, but I guess my mother named most of them.



Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?

Actually, my grandmother wanted my mother to name me after her,but my mom didn't agree cause she wanted to name me by my name so bad. loool, though she ended naming my little sister by my grandmother's name (may God bless her soul).


I think the mother should name the children since she's the one who went through the pregnancy and all.:mmhmm:

Superbia
03-01-08, 04:19 AM
Hmm, interesting topic. Well, in my family my mum always wanted a child named "Sarah" but she also wanted to name me the name I carry now, so it was down to my little sister. But her dad wanted his daughter to be named after his mother, my mum couldn't say no. I guess it's out of respect for the wife to agree on her husband's request by naming their child after a parent.

Mesmie
03-01-08, 09:07 AM
I was wondering, by tradition, which parent names the child?
And in your opinion, who is it who is supposed to name the child?
Both parents should discuss this among them and come up with a name they both agree on.


Who named you?
My mum came up with the name and my dad was like "oh ok awesome"

From your siblings, how many were named by your father and how many by your mother?
Eldest bro: Dad
Second bro: Grandma
Sister: Both mum and dad
Youngest sis: Mum

Did any of your parents tell you they wanted to name you a certain name but the other parent didn't agree on it?
Yes they wanted to name me Fatma at first but my mum didn't want an Islamic name cause my other sis already had an Islamic name so she named me something kind of modern.