View Full Version : It's common knowledge, CIA, Mossad behind terror attacks


Kamakazy
24-12-07, 09:55 AM
ITALIAN SAYS 9-11 SOLVED
By: atheo on: 21.12.2007

It's common knowledge, he reveals, CIA, Mossad behind terror attacks

By the Staff of American Free Press

Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, has told Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies. In what translates awkwardly into English, Cossiga told the newspaper Corriere della Sera:

"All the intelligence services of America and Europe...know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Cossiga was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide election to become president of the country in 1985, and he remained until 1992.

Cossiga's tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment, and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio.
This was a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s and '80s. Gladio's specialty was to carry out what they termed "false flag" operations-terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9-11 in 2001, and is quoted by 9-11 researcherWebster Tarpley saying "The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel."

Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga's assertion that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge among global intelligence agencies is illuminating.
It is one more eye-opening confirmation that has not been mentioned by America's propaganda machine in print or on TV. Nevertheless, because of his experience and status in the world, Cossiga cannot be discounted as a crackpot.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_solved118.html

ti3gib
24-12-07, 11:26 AM
Read this a few days ago, and I'm not shocked that someone as established as Mr. Cossiga would say something like this. I wouldn't go as far as saying the CIA and the mossad flew the planes into the buildings, or collapsed them intentionally, but it's a little hard to swallow that no one within American intelligence had an idea of what was going to happen, especially considering the report that president monkeypants disregarded about Al-Qaeda planning an attack of the sort.

The heading of the Iraq war only substantiates that.

amo_l_oman
24-12-07, 01:59 PM
Francesco CossigaHe must sell his autobiography this Xmas
Always says he knows biggest secrets then gives no evidence

Mr Tickle
24-12-07, 03:00 PM
I must have a different understanding of the phrase "common knowledge"

mimosa
24-12-07, 09:55 PM
Hahaha me too Mr P.

Oh well look on the bright side: Italy just showed that the US isn't the only G8 country with fruitcakes in high places :D

Ti3gib, I sort of take your point, but I think you underestimate the capacity of well-resourced intelligence agencies to f*** up. It's a proud tradition.

Storm
24-12-07, 10:16 PM
Read this a few days ago, and I'm not shocked that someone as established as Mr. Cossiga would say something like this. I wouldn't go as far as saying the CIA and the mossad flew the planes into the buildings, or collapsed them intentionally, but it's a little hard to swallow that no one within American intelligence had an idea of what was going to happen, especially considering the report that president monkeypants disregarded about Al-Qaeda planning an attack of the sort.

The heading of the Iraq war only substantiates that.

I couldn’t not to agree with you in this !

It is sometime clear like the sun in a summer day, but somehow people fail to see it :rolleyes:

ti3gib
24-12-07, 11:12 PM
Ti3gib, I sort of take your point, but I think you underestimate the capacity of well-resourced intelligence agencies to f*** up. It's a proud tradition.
I do underestimate that capacity, but this only offers an explanation. Not a justification.

Kamakazy
25-12-07, 04:59 PM
if you inflict terror on people, the people will ask for protection agaist the terror and will support whatever you do so as to not get the terror again...

Jihad4Truth
26-12-07, 11:13 PM
...it's a little hard to swallow that no one within American intelligence had an idea of what was going to happen,

...especially considering the report that president monkeypants disregarded about Al-Qaeda planning an attack of the sort.

Do you not see the contradiction in these two assertions of yours?

jack
27-12-07, 01:33 AM
It is one more eye-opening confirmation that has not been mentioned by America's propaganda machine in print or on TV. Nevertheless, because of his experience and status in the world, Cossiga cannot be discounted as a crackpot.

I don't understand. Why can't he be discounted as a crackpot again?

I'm inclined to believe that the whole 9/11 ordeal was magic. How about you Kama?

ti3gib
27-12-07, 03:21 AM
Do you not see the contradiction in these two assertions of yours?
Hmm. No. Slowly this time.

A. American intelligence reports to President Spongebob Squarepants about Al-Qaeda deploying terrorist attacks on US ground by flying civilian aircrafts to buildings.

B. President orders intelligence to diregard their information.

C. Attack gets done with an American intelligence bred public notion suggesting that they hadn't known about the possibility of such an attack.

D. Ti3gib does not believe that public notion, and then concurs that with the outcomings of the resulting war.

Now,time for coffee.

Jihad4Truth
27-12-07, 04:33 AM
But Ti3gib,

You are looking back in hindsight and assuming that because it did happen, and that there were reports of al queda planning attacks, that the CIA and President Bush knew for a fact that it was going to happen.

Of course they knew that this group called al Queda wanted to attack the US and kill Americans. Osama bin Laden was openly declaring this aim years before to international journalists. It was no secret, not even to the public. It was actually big news.

I remember seeing on the news years before 9/11, that some guy named Osama had called for "all Muslims to kill all Americans".

But that does not mean, anybody in the US Govt knew how, when, where or even if it was going to happen.

And it certainly does not mean they allowed it to happen as a pretext for removing Saddam.

fatamooo
27-12-07, 02:02 PM
I think what ti3gib is trying to say that the President could not have been more prepared for the attack, since someone had actually submitted a report saying it was going to happen - a more obvious way would have been to visually demonstrate it before him with models I suppose but whatever - and ignored it, or knew about it from before. So the US government can't claim to have been completely oblivious to it.

ti3gib
27-12-07, 03:22 PM
But Ti3gib,

You are looking back in hindsight and assuming that because it did happen, and that there were reports of al queda planning attacks, that the CIA and President Bush knew for a fact that it was going to happen.

Of course they knew that this group called al Queda wanted to attack the US and kill Americans. Osama bin Laden was openly declaring this aim years before to international journalists. It was no secret, not even to the public. It was actually big news.

I remember seeing on the news years before 9/11, that some guy named Osama had called for "all Muslims to kill all Americans".

But that does not mean, anybody in the US Govt knew how, when, where or even if it was going to happen.

And it certainly does not mean they allowed it to happen as a pretext for removing Saddam.
How about stealing Iraqi oil ? .. and controlling oil prices everywhere ? Not for America, but rather for the president himself, and his interests. The ridiculous amounts of money going to Iraq, don't forget those. The US Dollar's price worth dropping too.

All these things contribute to making George W. Bush a richer man after presidency than he was before.

Also I need to say that the report was quite specific. It implied Al-Qaeda, planes, and US ground. Look it up, you'll find it.

Giggles
27-12-07, 05:32 PM
How about stealing Iraqi oil ? .. and controlling oil prices everywhere ? Not for America, but rather for the president himself, and his interests. The ridiculous amounts of money going to Iraq, don't forget those. The US Dollar's price worth dropping too.

All these things contribute to making George W. Bush a richer man after presidency than he was before.

Also I need to say that the report was quite specific. It implied Al-Qaeda, planes, and US ground. Look it up, you'll find it.

Could you imagine the pissing and moaning muslims would have done had we tried to stop this by monitoring muslims in the US at airports, train stations, bus stations, etc? Had our government disclosed the fact that we prevented a huge attack because we were spying on the muslim community and stopped these followers of the Religion of Peace© before they killed thousands of innocent people those worthless organizations known as CAIR and the ACLU would have gone ballistic.

It was a lose-lose situation from the start.

ti3gib
27-12-07, 06:43 PM
so what are you saying ? ..

mimosa
27-12-07, 07:27 PM
There was already a "pretext" to go to war with Iraq, and if you bother to remember, the justification given at the time was Mr Blix saying "no full, final and complete disclosure" in January '03. Whether you agree with it or not, that was the reason they gave.

As for "stealing Iraqi oil" grow up. The US now pays six times more for its oil, and spends its own money in Iraq while the Iraqi government stacks up its oil revenues that its currently unable to spend. True, they're not happy about it, but if they'd wanted Iraq's oil it would have been far cheaper and easier to do a deal with Uncle Saddam and screw over the Iranians at the same time.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand: There were lots of "reports" of lots of "possible" methods of attack by the Osama fan club. How exactly would you have responded to "they might fly some planes into something some time" as a threat, among a hundred others?

I have had the dubious pleasure of seeing some of the inner workings of two governments over the last few years, and my expert opinion is that the most likely explanation for anything bad happening is that somebody didn't get it right. That's certainly the case here.

Jihad4Truth
27-12-07, 08:56 PM
Could you imagine the pissing and moaning muslims would have done had we tried to stop this by monitoring muslims in the US at airports, train stations, bus stations, etc?

It was a lose-lose situation from the start.


There has been a lot of pissing and moaning after 9/11, as if some people take security personally.

It's just like the situation with Iran. The current Iranian Govt does not mince words about it's desires to destroy America.

Yet, people like Ti3gib will say that America is currently bullying Iran for no reason at all.

But if the Iran Theocracy sponsored some attack on the US, then Ti3gib would say that the US Govt knew all along and allowed it to happen as an excuse to attack Iran and steal their oil.

Jihad4Truth
27-12-07, 09:17 PM
All these things contribute to making George W. Bush a richer man after presidency than he was before.

He already was a rich man, a privileged son from birth.

But Bush is no means the richest man in the US. It is unAmerican for the President to be the richest man around.

ti3gib
27-12-07, 11:08 PM
J4T,
Bush, Cheney and Co are notorious for their links to gas and energy companies. Them having money, doesn't stop them from wanting to have more.

Mimo,
Stop thinking American public and economy, and put Bush in perspective. I think it changes a few things.

mimosa
27-12-07, 11:18 PM
Bush is Pinnochio, others have the strings. And they are not that dumb, just unpleasant.

mimosa
27-12-07, 11:22 PM
Bush is Pinnochio, others have the strings. And they are not that dumb, just unpleasant.

I agree that the whole gang would love their companies to do well out of any future privatisation, but that's not the same as "wanting to steal the oil" which is schoolboy naivite. But like I said, they could have had those opportunities in the nineties if it were the objective in itself.

Jihad4Truth
27-12-07, 11:44 PM
J4T,
Bush, Cheney and Co are notorious for their links to gas and energy companies. Them having money, doesn't stop them from wanting to have more.

Well if money is the motive, then the one peope who have benefitted the most in recent years are the petroleum exporting nations.

So let's see Arab terrorists crash planes into the WTC and gas prices go up.

And who has more money than ever, oil exporting Arabs.

That's reality pal, all you have is theories.

ti3gib
27-12-07, 11:51 PM
We have oil. So what ? ..

Petroleum exporting nations benefiting does not change the fact that there's a big possibility that Bush is. That's a reality.

Jihad4Truth
28-12-07, 02:03 AM
We have oil. So what ? ..

Petroleum exporting nations benefiting does not change the fact that there's a big possibility that Bush is. That's a reality.

Yes but the link between terrorism and OPEC is much more tangible than conspiracy theories that allege that the US President engaged in a diabolical and cockamamie scheme to get even wealthier than he already is. What does Bush need even more money for? His personal residence is a modest ranch home in the middle of nowhere. Displaying wealth is not his personality.


It is much more probable that Arab Intelligence Agencies, knew much more details about Osama's plan and allowed it to happen for their OPEC masters.

In one move, the GCC Monarchs could damage America's influence and get the Americans to get rid of the extremist Osama guy who challenges their opulent rule. And they could get Bush to remove the belligerent Saddam guy who was the major threat and he already tried to annex Kuwait. And the cherry on top is that all this volatility in the Middle East will cause oil prices to rise, which coincidentally is their only source of revenue.

You should be proud of such brillance.

ti3gib
28-12-07, 03:26 AM
We're sorry ?

Jihad4Truth
28-12-07, 09:28 PM
What are you apologizing for? Well anyways, I accept. You can make it up to me by letting me sleep on your couch when I visit Oman.:)

DiNGBAT
28-12-07, 10:07 PM
Why do I get the feeling that ES is a conspiracy theorist haven? They just flourish unchecked like ivy on a old colonial building.
Honestly, do some of you really, truly believe in such mindless drivel?

Mr Tickle
31-12-07, 02:22 PM
It is a fact that someone will be murdered in the UK this year coming

It is a fact that there are some people planning to kill people in the UK in the name of Islam

It is a fact that members of the Taliban will be killed this year coming

It is a fact that US/UK etc inteligence agencies have to deal with a multitude of different layers of intelligence

It is a fact that the US intelligence agencies were aware of OBL's directives (
It is a fact that the WTC were tried to be bombed by a van packed with explosives a few years previous)

Now spot the difference:

1) The FBI/CIA and all other relevant agencies knew the precise details of what was going to happen

and

2) The FBI/CIA and all other relevant agencies were aware of reports back in 1998 that OBL and friends may (or may not) hijack some planes at some point in the next 20 years........and the hijackings may (or may not) involve flying them at buildings....somewhere in the United States...

And then factor in that pre 9/11 there was not a lot of inter agency sharing of info going on...........and each agency got different scraps

PS The fault for 9/11 lies with OBL's killers