Why they ran away?

I think it's time for US troops to run away from Baghdad also.

Not unlikely.

tinkle,

how did they run away?

why did ice tea run away from the thread?

You didn't answer the question in the first post.

You didn't answer the question in the first post.

The Brits left because they handed the keys to the city over to the leaders and as a result, the violence has dropped dramatically.

is that called running away?

its called retreating
its what armies do :)

I'm also interested in knowing why Icetea ran away from this thread.

Does anyone remember Monty Python and the Holy Grail? The scene in which King Arthur and his followers encounter the Black Knight who guards the bridge and says "You shall not pass!"

King Arthur chops off first one arm and then the other. But the Black Knight insists it's just a flesh wound. He keeps butting into King Arthur, who is finally compelled to chop off both his legs as well.

As the Knights of the Round Table pass over his bridge, the Black Knight says, "Oh, you're running away, are you? Cowards! Running away!"

I think it's called "Handing over Basra to the Iraqis". Just as we did in Mosul and large chunks of Iraq, for those who ARE NOT BOTHERING TO FOLLOW THE STORY.

The British remain outside the city to help with training and emergencies and the government forces are running the show and gradually through negotiation, pressure, etc., taking the city back from the militias.

I think Ice Tea has been getting his news from Zawhiri's tape! :p

But Zawahiri and his boys are in the position of the Black Knight: forced to pretend that those who have lopped off their limbs are turning in fear! :)

A GOOD SIGN, I'd call it. And so is this wonderful thread!

Poor Icy.

Any sign of success in Iraq automatically becomes a failure for him.

I think it's called "Handing over Basra to the Iraqis". Just as we did in Mosul and large chunks of Iraq, for those who ARE NOT BOTHERING TO FOLLOW THE STORY.

The British remain outside the city to help with training and emergencies and the government forces are running the show and gradually through negotiation, pressure, etc., taking the city back from the militias.

I think Ice Tea has been getting his news from Zawhiri's tape! :p

But Zawahiri and his boys are in the position of the Black Knight: forced to pretend that those who have lopped off their limbs are turning in fear! :)

A GOOD SIGN, I'd call it. And so is this wonderful thread!

I think they could not withstand the heat anymore, soliders are feeling depressed and many have committed suicide.

I think the thread was posted before Zawahiri's tape.

Poor Icy.

Any sign of success in Iraq automatically becomes a failure for him.

Where is the success?

Or you are going to say like Bush "Mission accomplished" and yet not even started.

~December 14: ABC News reports that for the first day after the insurgency began, there is NO NEWS from Iraq.

~"The ABC reporter Terry McCarthy interviewed Sunnis shopping for the holidays in the traditionally Shiite neighbourhood of Kadhum. In a crowded market, a Sunni woman said it was fine to shop there and the selection was better than in other places. Cafes stay open at night, and McCarthy said he was able to eat at a restaurant for the first time in three years."

~"There International Energy Agency says that oil production in Iraq now exceeds its pre-war levels. The IEA attributes the rise in production to the improved security situtation, especially in the north. "In recent years this pipeline has been out of action for long periods due to sabotage attacks."

~Situation so safe the Saudis are now finally going to Iraq to explore setting up an embassy.

http://iraqpundit.blogspot.com/2007/12/time-is-on-iraqs-side.html

War's over guys! Time to wake up! :p

The British probably ran away to get sandwiches in the Kadhum market. Nothing more to do in Basra.... ;)

Let's get our news from the same international news agencies that reported all the BAD news for all those years! Or: we can play "let's pretend".

Soon we will all "run away" and let the Iraqis run their country. Whew! Thank goodness.

Yes, time for Americans to ran away too and mind their own business.

Yes, time for Americans to ran away too and mind their own business.


we will mind our own business as soon as islam quits blowing our shhit up.

It's Action and reaction.

If you invade a country then you should expect people to defend themselves, common sense rage boy.

So as soon you go back to your own country, things will be peaceful.

It's Action and reaction.

If you invade a country then you should expect people to defend themselves, common sense rage boy.

Which is exactly what America did after it was invaded by Arab-Muslim terrorists on Sept 11, 2001.

That is unacceptable justifucation to invade a whole country and destroy it. America should only get people who were involved but things doesn't work that way. The US has it's own agenda to invade Muslim/Arab countries and one of them is to protect Israel and secure it's interests in the ME.

What is the justification to invade Iraq again?

Which is exactly what America did after it was invaded by Arab-Muslim terrorists on Sept 11, 2001.

How many of the hijackers (if they really did exist) were Iraqis?

Don't make up fairytales, Iraq was invaded based on a lie, to control it's wealth & for the weapens industry to make billions out of it

Those invaders are the actual terrorists, you can put them on the same scale as Al-Qaeda, maybe even worse

Yes, time for Americans to ran away too and mind their own business.

Well, anyway, it's not YOUR business; that's for sure. ;)

YOUR government recognizes the Iraqi government as the legitmate government of the country.

We are there presently at the invitation of the Omani-recognized legitimate government of Iraq.

Iraqi business. American business. Not Ice Tea business. :p

What is the justification to invade Iraq again?

Iraq was invaded based on a lie, to control it's wealth & for the weapens industry to make billions out of it


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JF5YDS9DL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

Obeidi was a trained engineer in the Iraqi oil industry, but his brilliant record led to his transfer to the nuclear weapons program. After the bombing of Iraq's Osirak reactor by Israel in 1981, he spearheaded the search for a working centrifuge as the best method of enriching fissionable material for a bomb. That work also involved him in a number of situations worthy of James Bond, as he sought classified knowledge and key components all over the world, under surveillance from both Saddam Hussein (and Saddam's son-in-law, the vividly portrayed Hussein Kamel) and foreign intelligence agencies. The author finally buried most of the relevant data, drawings and sample components in his backyard and turned them over to Coalition forces before emigrating to the United States...

In The Bomb in My Garden: The Secrets of Saddam's Nuclear Mastermind (Wiley, $24.95), a former Iraqi nuclear scientist, Mahdi Obeidi, describes in jaw-dropping detail how Iraq acquired the means to produce highly enriched uranium, the key ingredient to building a nuclear weapon, by the eve of the first Gulf War. Had Saddam Hussein not made the fatal mistake of invading Kuwait in August 1990, he probably would have possessed a crude atomic bomb by 1992 or 1993, insulating his regime from the threat of foreign invasion.

http://www.amazon.com/Bomb-My-Garden-Secrets-Mastermind/dp/0471741272/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198032758&sr=1-1

A working centrifuge, with plans for reviving it the second the sanctions regime deteriorated. All buried in his backyard at the time of the Bush "invasion"!

And we knew nothing about it... :)

Only part of the rich material available for anybody who peeks below the headlines looking for justification for the LONG-overdue operation to remove Saddam Hussein (may God forgive him and receive his soul in heaven) from power.

So MUCH justification, I don't know if I can fit it onto the fingers of my two hands...

What is the justification to invade Iraq again?

Iraq was invaded based on a lie, to control it's wealth & for the weapens industry to make billions out of it


More justification.

Abu Musab Zarqawi, a top al-Qaeda operative, was being sheltered in Iraq by Saddam Hussein who refused to hand him over to Jordan. Or at least that's what the Kings of Jordan and Saudi Arabia say:

CAIRO - The regime of Saddam Hussain rejected repeated requests from Jordan to hand over Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who now heads Al Qaeda in Iraq, the Jordanian king said in an interview published on Thursday.

King Abdullah II told the pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat that Jordan exerted “big efforts” with Saddam’s government to extradite al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian sentenced to death at home for terrorist activities.

“But our demands that the former regime hand him over were in vain,” Abdullah said.

“We had information that he entered Iraq from a neighboring country, where he lived and what he was doing. We informed the Iraqi authorities about all this detailed information we had, but they didn’t respond,” the king said.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2005/May/middleeast_May570.xml&section=middleeast

More lies?

It's okay, now, though. The Iraqis and the Americans have killed him and most of his friends.

It is only the lucky ones who have had the chance to "run away".

Here is why the British are "running away" and the Americans can soon join them eating sandwiches in Kadhum neighborhood. From the Arab press:

Anbar, Dec 16, (VOI) – Tribal awakening council forces killed four gunmen who attacked their checkpoint in Anbar province, local eyewitnesses said on Sunday.

"Forces from the tribal awakening councils in Barwana district killed four gunmen on Sunday morning," an eyewitness told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
"Driving a civilian vehicle, the gunmen attacked a checkpoint belonging to the Anbar tribal awakening forces in southern Haditha district," the eyewitness indicated.
"Small arms clashes took place between the tribal forces and the attackers for 15 minutes and the scene was sealed off until security reinforcements arrived," according to the same source.

Haditha lies 270 km west of Ramadi, the capital city of Anbar province, which lies 110 km west of the Iraqi capital Baghdad.


http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=63209&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1

Iraqi tribesmen kill 22 Al-Qaeda terrorists

BAGHDAD, Dec 16 (KUNA) -- Iraqi tribesmen in Diyala have, in clashes with Al-Qaeda terrorists Sunday, killed 22 militants in the governorate, Iraqi police said.

A police source told KUNA Al-Qaeda militants launched an attack against the Nai and Safit villages in Diyala, northeast of Baghdad, but the tribesmen confronted them and killed 22 of them.

Seventeen Iraqis were killed in the clashes, said the source. (end) ahh.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/Home/Story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=1052404

As the Iraqis get better at killing and capturing the Arab "friends" and "helpers" assisting them against the "occupation", there is less and less for us to do.

Just in case anyone hasn't noticed--it's unanimous:

The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously Tuesday to extend the U.S.-led multinational force in Iraq for one year, a move that Iraq's prime minister said would be his nation's ``final request'' for help.

Authorization for the 160,000-strong multinational force was extended until the end of 2008 because ``the threat in Iraq continues to constitute a threat to international peace and security,'' according to the resolution.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-7163478,00.html