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Amjad
28-05-07, 05:43 PM
I was confused where to post this; whether here or in the relationships sabla.

Anyhow, sabla scholars ..

Are Muslim men allowed to ask their wives for a blowjob? or it's haram?

It would be appreciated more if your answers were provided with valid sources...

Kamakazy
28-05-07, 05:50 PM
depends on your sect i guess...

XQ
28-05-07, 05:51 PM
I read this in a book some time ago so I don't have an electronic source now. Its not allowed cause the mouth and tongue is used to mention Gods name (Theker) and therefore its not permissible to put something there which is dirty (Nages). Also, I am not sure of what are the health consequences of that.

Yet here is more:

“I was asked about oral sex in America and Europe when I began to travel to these countries in the early 70s. We are not used to be asked these questions in our Muslim countries. Those Western people are accustomed to stripping naked during sexual intercourse. These are communities of nakedness, and from the licentiousness of the woman that she wears nothing to screen her body in her daily life.

So, they are in need of more excitements during copulation. However, men in our Muslim societies see nothing in the Muslim woman that can excite them on the basis of her wearing either Hijab (veil) or Niqab (face cover). But concerning whether being in complete nakedness during practicing copulation is lawful or not, the Prophet of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, is reported to have said, "Guard your private parts except from your wife or your slaves."

Muslim jurists are of the opinion that it is lawful for the husband to perform cunnilingus on his wife, or a wife to perform the similar act for her husband (fellatio) and there is no wrong in doing so. But if sucking leads to releasing semen, then it is Makruh (blameworthy), but there is no decisive evidence (to forbid it).

These parts are not dirty like anus, but it is ordinarily disgusting to man. But there is no decisive evidence to make it unlawful, especially if the wife agrees with it or achieves orgasm by practicing it. Allah, Exalted and Glorified be He, says: "And who guard their modesty, save from their wives or the slaves, that I heir right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy, but Who so craveth beyond that, such are transgressors.” (Al-Mu'minun: 5-7)”

There is more to it and you can check it here

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543892

Dark Project
28-05-07, 06:02 PM
depends on your sect i guess...

Which sect you on about ;)
Gender ?
Mathhab?

Nella
28-05-07, 06:05 PM
i think he meant mathhab..

Endure Whisper
28-05-07, 06:07 PM
I would really like to know the answer to this. I hope someone can provide us with a solid proof.

Superbia
28-05-07, 06:11 PM
This topic has been discussed like a million times now !

Amjad
28-05-07, 06:20 PM
This topic has been discussed liek a million times now !
Could you provide the links please? 'cause I searched about it here on sabla before opening this thread and didn't find any result...

Amjad
28-05-07, 06:21 PM
I read this in a book some time ago so I don't have an electronic source now. Its not allowed cause the mouth and tongue is used to mention Gods name (Theker) and therefore its not permissible to put something there which is dirty (Nages). However I am not sure of what are the health consequences of that.
Sounds very reasonable. Thanks for sharing man.

Endure Whisper
28-05-07, 06:43 PM
This topic has been discussed liek a million times now !

If finding links is difficult, do you remember if there was a conclusion? I mean, whether or not it is forbidden?

Also, I don't want to drag this thread to somewhere else, but what about the other way round? Is it permissable for the husband to "blowjob" his wife?


*Mind me, I didn't know what's the appropriate word for the act the man does to his wife!*

XQ
28-05-07, 06:45 PM
Its the same logic even the other way around. All of that is called Oral Sex.

Endure Whisper
28-05-07, 06:46 PM
Its the same logic even the other way around. All of that is called Oral Sex.

Which is.... forbidden?

XQ
28-05-07, 06:50 PM
Depends on sect as Kamakazi said. I know Abadi and thats what I said about the mouth being a place where Gods name is mentioned. I got another one which I posted in an earlier post which is Sunni but not sure which part of Sunni.

My take on this, if something is suspicious, why even attempt it? Thats the way in religion, avoid gray areas if you are not sure. As if other ways of men and women to satisfy themselves aren't enough!

Lym
28-05-07, 06:51 PM
I tried looking for it and it was discussed here (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42794&highlight=Oral+sex),here (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showpost.php?p=747707&postcount=30) and here. (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showpost.php?p=747873&postcount=35)

Endure Whisper
28-05-07, 06:58 PM
Thanks Lym :)

Lym
28-05-07, 07:06 PM
Endure Whisper, I added more links above where members spoke about oral sex in Islam and provided sources. Also when a man performs oral sex on his wife, it is called cunnilingus and the proper word for blow job is fellatio.

Amjad
28-05-07, 07:39 PM
Thanks a lot Lym. :) I really appreciate that.

Abdullah II
28-05-07, 07:42 PM
No its not.

only thing which is stated as haram is anal sex.

Rossonero
28-05-07, 07:46 PM
It is not, I asked my Islamic teacher back in Grade 10 and he said it is not haram.

BrAiKi
28-05-07, 08:36 PM
this is one of the topics that make me wonder.. Why do we love to make things difficult for ourselves?!
For Example; you have 3 doors, X, Y & Z. If God told you that it is forbideen to enter through door Z then why do you ask about the other doors?! what is forbidden is mentioned already!

Pablo Escobar
28-05-07, 08:43 PM
this is one of the topics that make me wonder.. Why do we love to make things difficult for ourselves?!
For Example; you have 3 doors, X, Y & Z. If God told you that it is forbideen to enter through door Z then why do you ask about the other doors?! what is forbidden is mentioned already!

...THANK YOU

Amjad
28-05-07, 09:42 PM
this is one of the topics that make me wonder.. Why do we love to make things difficult for ourselves?!
For Example; you have 3 doors, X, Y & Z. If God told you that it is forbideen to enter through door Z then why do you ask about the other doors?! what is forbidden is mentioned already!
Are you implying that it was mentioned in the Qur'an that blowjob is haram? If not, where is it mentioned?

Endure Whisper
28-05-07, 09:48 PM
I think he was talking about Anal sex when he mentioned door Z!

Cute_Ting
28-05-07, 09:50 PM
Well i think of it as this, since i hear it is 7aram and i hear it aint, and sometimes i here only suna think it is....

anyhow i think this, u like giving blowjobs than give em u dont than dont SIMPLE

yasirb51
28-05-07, 10:11 PM
is this really that important !? :os
i mean i would NEVER would want to degrade my soul mate to doing such a disgusting thing ! :os

Cute_Ting
28-05-07, 10:15 PM
Well some ppl will do it for there soul mate, for my i would throw up everywhere, but some ppl wont do it to there "soul mate" but would like it done to them

yasirb51
28-05-07, 10:21 PM
^ whats that supposed to mean !?:think:
i just mean that i dont think its approprtiate for a couple to commit such an act wether its haram or not !
im just using my personal judgement and common sense !

Phat
28-05-07, 10:33 PM
Not haram. :D

however it is said that its "makrooh" (Not preferable), but its not really haram.

Haroundb
28-05-07, 10:35 PM
I don't know if it is Haram or not (not in position to decide for this), but it is disgusting! There are lots of things that are not Haram but disgusting, you do it on your own intention.

I just want to make one small advise, "If you feel to ask about it being haram or not then don't do it!", that is how I deal with such things. Yes we were created by God to have the inner valuing system, we just disable it to be able to survive what we don't like. So... It is up to you!

amo_l_oman
28-05-07, 10:38 PM
I just want to make one small advise, "If you feel to ask about it being haram or not then don't do it!", that is how I deal with such things. Yes we were created by God to have the inner valuing system, we just disable it to be able to survive what we don't like. So... It is up to you!
Might be the contrary
We sometimes do things we like so much that we think God will not approve cause we have a wrong idea of Him
That's why we ask is it haram or halal

Superbia
28-05-07, 10:41 PM
But since sperm has 'proteins' i.e it's good in some healthy way, then I guess it's 7alal ( not forbidden) Unless if there's written proof saying that it's 7aram (forbidden) then I guess it is, with no questions asked.

yasirb51
28-05-07, 11:15 PM
i agree with haroundb ! :)

Haroundb
28-05-07, 11:22 PM
Might be the contrary
We sometimes do things we like so much that we think God will not approve cause we have a wrong idea of Him
That's why we ask is it haram or halal

Give me an example if you can!~ I will pay you 10$ for the example, so...You can make money now!:50bz:

Thalia
28-05-07, 11:57 PM
Whether it is 'disgusting' or not is personal opinion and preference. Just because you don't like something, it doesn't automatically make it disgusting for everyone.

If there is proof that it is not haram, then it is ok. Then you have a choice. Do it, or don't do it. Up to you. (and your partner)

Kamakazy
29-05-07, 12:37 AM
I read this in a book some time ago so I don't have an electronic source now. Its not allowed cause the mouth and tongue is used to mention Gods name (Theker) and therefore its not permissible to put something there which is dirty (Nages). Also, I am not sure of what are the health consequences of that.

the same would be applied to saying lies, insulting, talking behind someones back, etc...

the mouth could be very dirty... :6:

HITMAN
29-05-07, 12:40 AM
the same would be applied to saying lies, insulting, talking behind someones back, etc...

the mouth could be very dirty... :6:

And same can applied to the hands that hold the Holy Quran, those hands surely have been touching many dirty things or places

HITMAN
29-05-07, 12:44 AM
But since sperm has 'proteins' i.e it's good in some healthy way, then I guess it's 7alal ( not forbidden) Unless if there's written proof saying that it's 7aram (forbidden) then I guess it is, with no questions asked.

Proteins you say?

Mammalian faeces contains proteins & so does the urine of a patient suffering from nephrotic syndrome for instance

Superbia
29-05-07, 12:48 AM
^ Don't bite me; i'm just sharing my bio class information.

Kamakazy
29-05-07, 12:57 AM
And same can applied to the hands that hold the Holy Quran, those hands surely have been touching many dirty things or places

yes, as well as eyes and ears...

LosT_SouL
29-05-07, 12:59 AM
I tried looking for it and it was discussed here (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42794&highlight=Oral+sex),here (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showpost.php?p=747707&postcount=30) and here. (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showpost.php?p=747873&postcount=35)

I think I have wrote about The Islamic view of Oral sex ...

Oral sex is permissible ..

Libellula
29-05-07, 01:38 AM
If finding links is difficult, do you remember if there was a conclusion? I mean, whether or not it is forbidden?

Also, I don't want to drag this thread to somewhere else, but what about the other way round? Is it permissable for the husband to "blowjob" his wife?


*Mind me, I didn't know what's the appropriate word for the act the man does to his wife!*
Cunnilingus. That's the word.

BrAiKi
29-05-07, 02:23 AM
There's something I noticed in some scholars nowadays, when they say that something is not perferred (Makruh) or Haram, they include an opnion which is obviously a personal opinion.. As Fengy mentioned, if a person thinks that something disgusting, it doesnt have to mean that all people MUST think that way too!

I discussed this with my friend few months ago, he was like: for Gods sake! you gonna let your wife do that for you, as if she's a sl*t! I was like: well I wont be needing a sl*t to do that for me if my wife does it!
my point was that as he is clearly saying, its OKAY if a sl*t does that for you, but not your wife!? that just twists the whole thing! :os

wudjab
29-05-07, 06:56 AM
Which reminds me of this story...

At the National Art Gallery in Dublin, a husband and wife were staring at a portrait that had them completely confused. The painting depicted three black men totally naked sitting on a park bench.

Two of the figures had black willies, but the one in the middle had a pink willie. The curator of the gallery realized that they were having trouble interpreting the painting and offered his assessment.

He went on for over half an hour explaining how it depicted the sexual emasculation of African-Americans in a predominately white, patriarchal society. "In fact," he pointed out, "some serious critics believe that the pink willie also reflects the cultural and sociological oppression experienced by gay men in contemporary society."

After the curator left, an Irishman, approached the couple and said, "Would you like to know what the painting is really about?"

"Now why would you claim to be more of an expert than the curator of the gallery?" asked the couple.

"Because I'm the guy who painted it," he replied.

"In fact, there are no African-Americans depicted at all. They're just three Irish coal miners.

The guy in the middle went home for lunch."

XQ
29-05-07, 08:10 AM
the same would be applied to saying lies, insulting, talking behind someones back, etc...

the mouth could be very dirty... :6:

True, I never thought of it that way, though I have to say that lies, insulting and talking behind someones back, is not "Nages". However, I still think it shouldn't be done and thats my own opinion. There is no mention about it in Sunna, its something new. Yes we have to address new issues even if there is no mention in it in Sunna but those issues are serious and a must. I am not convinced that this issue falls in the "must" area. You are not sure about something, just avoid it. Its not the only way people get pleasure from.

However I do have a question; Does it sound right to put someone's genitals into anothers mouth? I am not talking about the religious view, rather I am talking about a human blessed with a brain. Next thing I know we wouldn't be any different from an animal when it licks its genitals to clean itself! No? God created everything in a human body for a purpose and I can't recall the mouth being used as place to put someones genitals in.

The Human brain, thats what makes the difference.

amo_l_oman
29-05-07, 10:23 AM
Give me an example if you can!~ I will pay you 10$ for the example, so...You can make money now!:50bz:
it was philosophical thought :os
in general when one thinks of God and religion, thinks of sufferance
so when you live a beautiful experience, you feel guilty and not in line with religion

Haroundb
29-05-07, 12:00 PM
it was philosophical thought :os
in general when one thinks of God and religion, thinks of sufferance
so when you live a beautiful experience, you feel guilty and not in line with religion
I call that a misunderstanding. It is we exaggerate into religion either far lose or far tight. In the middle will be "great" I guess. It is that we just pain ourselves without a good reason! This needs big support to fix. Sadly many nowadays have no idea what is the correct level so here we are, ........

BrAiKi
29-05-07, 03:19 PM
off topics were deleted, please keep the discussion mature and serious, more off topic posts will result in locking the thread

Thalia
29-05-07, 03:20 PM
it was philosophical thought :os
in general when one thinks of God and religion, thinks of sufferance
so when you live a beautiful experience, you feel guilty and not in line with religion
what you said here is very true for some people. That's why sometimes I really don't get it... how to be 'religious' one thinks he has to make his life harder or less comfortable and less fun.

Like enjoying yourself and having a good time must be a sin. Must be wrong. It just must. And if you're not sure, don't. Just incase.

Rossonero
29-05-07, 03:22 PM
what you said here is very true for some people. That's why sometimes I really don't get it... how to be 'religious' one thinks he has to make his life harder or less comfortable and less fun.

Like enjoying yourself and having a good time must be a sin. Must be wrong. It just must. And if you're not sure, don't. Just incase.

Well, Everything has its limits, and we have to control that.

Thalia
29-05-07, 03:31 PM
Well, Everything has its limits, and we have to control that.
Sure, but it seems that every one's limits are at different places.

It would not be ok to cause harm to someone (or something) else so you can have a good time, but to stop yourself from it, even though you know it is ok/permitted (etc) because subconsciously you think you are a more religious person by doing that, is silly.

Let me give you an example; Come ramadan. You fast from sunrise to sunset. To be a 'hero', you fast an extra 2 hours. :rolleyes: Why? If God has given something good to you, take it! Why keep questioning it? Will it make 'you' any better a person?

Haroundb
29-05-07, 04:07 PM
Let me give you an example; Come ramadan. You fast from sunrise to sunset. To be a 'hero', you fast an extra 2 hours. :rolleyes: Why? If God has given something good to you, take it! Why keep questioning it? Will it make 'you' any better a person?
That is why there are limits in our religion...Whoever crosses the limit to the other side will sure be doing the same harm. Yes Islam and the prophet have insisted to focus on this point. No "extra" in many religious believes and actions, you just do it in the way it should be done. Extra to that you are just the same as not doing it at all!

You have got a good example there Fengy, and sure NO ONE is allowed to fast even one single minute after sunset, that is the mercy of God to the short narrow minds which think that being + is always good, and would harm itself trying to be good! :(

Storm
29-05-07, 04:14 PM
This thread served it purpose by the discussion and Lym post, even more the topic has been discussed several time.

There is no point to keep it open except going off topic

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