Gowa((salam))

Alrite well, my friend and i were sitting in a coffee shop and well as usually we were talkin and we were talking about a guy who has a son from his white GF and we were saying how shes not a committed girl and stuff anyhow my friend said oh s0o0o the kid is a Na'3al or is it spelt na3al not sure anyhow its an iraqi word i dont know wut it means but she said it means ******* and i said well hes not a ******* if his dad is still there and stuff Well than she said did u know since his parents are not married and stuff btw this guy is muslim... anyhow she said since his parents arent married than hes a na3al/na'3al and he cant enter a mosque and i got mad and was so against wut she just said. she than explained that since his parents arent married god said that he cant enter a mosque heres the question is this true?!?!!? and the thing i asked her is why is it none muslim can enter a mosque but he cant and it aint his fault his parents arent married u know

i'd like to know the truth behind this parents not married and bring a kid!

thats harsh
i wonder whats going on inside his head
but in islam there no discrimination !

So your question is, can a person, who's parents remain unmarried, enter a mosque?

Would be interesting to read the replies. Funnily enough, many people I know kind of look down on children born out of wedlock. It's not fair. It's hardly his/her fault!

ya the question is can he or she enter a mosque if there parents arent married, like yes i know its haram and all but I really wanna know if they can or cant cuz my friend when she said that i flipped out. like she said that she'll make a bet but i know she didnt read it in the quran someone told her! and i dont like that when they get there facts from others and not the quran

speakin about lookin down, well why would u tell ur child well ur a ******* child or a child that is even worse which is a HARAM child :s AS IF

okay I had a hard time reading ur post lol..

anyway, no I don't think it's harram for the kid to enter a mosque, and I don't think it's harram for the father to either, he committed a sin, that doesn't mean he's no longer a muslim.

But yeh he is wald 7arram (Ba*tard). Or na`3al/na3al lol.

I never heard of such things, ask ur friend for evidence.. Its really bad to just say "God said this.. God said that.. " while its just a fatwa! and a fatwa can't issue such things because The mosque is the House of God and NO ONE in this earth can prevent a lost soul from entering The House of God.. So ask your friend and we'll see from where she/he got this claim from..

NB: it is na`3al (naghal), the same word is used in Oman

L0o0o0L sorry about that, I dont want u to THINK i want u to KNOW

Ba$tard means someone born without a dad

well i didnt ask her where she got her 411 but i know like 100% that her fiance told her

meaning of Ba$tard: person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.

((ma bad))

lol.. this is interesting, tell her if God said so, that means its through the Holy Quraan, or a Qudsi Hadith, and I don't think there's such things mentioned in the Quraan nor a Qudsi Hadith!

i know wut u mean, i'll actually do that, but i want my proof that it aint there u know wut i mean
to look smarter :cute:

well she made the claim and she has to prove it, and you don't have to disprove it.. That's being smart too ;)

L0o0o0oL good one ya, i'll see wut i'll do, cuz that REALLY bothered me and i was thiking like r u talkin out of ur @$$ or wut!?!??! and during that time i couldnt say anything nor make a deal of whos rite or wrong cuz to be honest i dont read the Quran, but isnt common sense?!??!?!

yep, but common sense is not common ;)
you tell them that and wait for their answer..

L0o0o0oL i love that, i'll keep that common sense is not common thing in mind ;)

ima see her soon today and im guessin im getting an answer tom or NEVER cuz it takes her 4ever to do things for ppl....but for herself it takes two seconds

It's absurd to think that an illegitimate child can't enter a mosque. An illegitimate child will have a white book when they're born like any other child, and they will be judged according to their good and bad once they reach puberty just like any other human being. So basically, if an illegitimate child is not abandoned from heaven, how can they abandoned from a mosque?

Islam is a religion that will not punish someone for the fault of another human being. If the parents sinned, that does not mean the child will bear any of it. For the most part, it is because the child had nothing to do with his/her parents actions, so how can s/he be punished for his parents committing adultery?

See thats wut i was explaining to my friend but NOOOOO since her fiance said it that means its rite cuz he read the Quran and i havent

I told her yesterday to get her proof and she said she will, but i didnt see her today