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Pygmalion
27-01-07, 03:36 AM
I was contemplating the 15% salary raise of the worker in the public sector.
Was it the best decision to alleviate the economical pressure on a huge portion of the Omani people? Couldn’t this money be directed to a more fruitful spot that would have a better impact on the economy and social security of the country? Let’s think of it!

The increase on average is 30-60 Riyal and the benefited are those who work in the public civilian sector; the military and other local security sectors are not included. This increase will result in a significant increase of the prices of most of the essential goods.
If projections hold true, people will spend more than the 15% increase because of the price raise. Moreover, this price increase will apply on all people including those who do not have the privilege of the 15% increase.
What if the multi million Riyals allocated for this salary increase were directed in favor of the many thousands unemployed Omani youth, either by initiating projects to employ them or even by financially aiding them until they get employed. 40 Riyal will do a lot to 20 years unemployed adult who is depending on his family without attending school.

-Don’t those unemployed people have the right to this money like you and me?
-Won’t this reduce the dramatically growing crime rate in the country?
-Won’t 40 Riyals have more impact on an unemployed person than it does on another who receives more than 10 folds of that a month?
-How about those who will suffer the increase in prices without benefiting from the increase in salaries?

I know that some people may say that we are always complaining whether asking for a salary increase or complaining about the increase. I put my rationale and I hope the discussion will be within that boundary.

NaBHaN
27-01-07, 03:53 AM
-Won’t 40 Riyals have more impact on an unemployed person than it does on another who receives more than 10 folds of that a month?


Not necessarily. I know of many adult and working people who could use even 5 extra rials because they are so under pressure when it comes to finances because they have a family to support and believe it or not that 5 rials could make a huge difference so what about 40 extra rials then?

Yes the un employed youth need help but we should not be fast to judge that someone who as you said 'receives more than 10 folds of that a month' couldn't use the extra help either. Different people in different situations make it nearly impossible for anyone to know what is the best way to dispose that extra cash.

Welcome to the englishsabla. :cute:

ToomuchaT
27-01-07, 04:53 AM
.. it should be given for who makers good saving in the budget!! i think!!

Pygmalion
27-01-07, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the replying and thanks Nabhan for the greeting.

My concern was on two things:
1.If the salary increase has to be accompanied by an increase in prices then the increase will at least have no effect on the benefited and will be catastrophic to those who didn’t benefit from the salary increase and yet have to endure the price increase and the whole game will end up with the essential products’ suppliers being the winner. So here neither the 40 nor the 5 Riyals will do any good.
2.Each and every Omani has the right to the country’s resources. What is the rationale of giving the employed and depriving the unemployed?
I understand that when the government spends multi thousand of Riyals on educating a person abroad is because that person studied hard to make himself more qualified than other citizens to have that much of money be spent on his education.
But here I do not see myself more qualified than the unemployed to be given this increase. He too has right to this money; I even see that he should be given the priority by educating him or financially support him. This will have a broader impact than simply trying to increase the personal income. Think how such a step would impact the national security, average literacy rate and other subsequent social and economical effects.

$w€€ŧ¥
28-01-07, 01:57 AM
Thank you lover2007 , you kinda answered my question in another thread by opening this one :)

I wont be able to answer your questions as im not much familiar with such stuff but defiantly such a decision was done after long discussion and research and for the best of the majority people.

Pygmalion
28-01-07, 11:29 PM
I hope if everything they plan, no matter how big it is or how long their planning is, is always correct, but experience shows otherwise.
The long discussions do not always have to end up with the right decision. Past decisions are more than countable. What makes things worse is that some decisions are irrevocable, and so we all have to live with it.
Also when we talk about the benefit, we need to see something tangible, people are so worried with the increase in prices.
Didn’t they bring this expected result in their discussion or try to invent a mechanism to abort such counteractive consequence?

XQ
30-01-07, 06:37 PM
The salary increase is needed and expected long time ago since prices of everything has gone up already. Yes the current increase might be matched up with a price increase in goods and services but there are already efforts to counter that and I remember there was a meeting held regarding this issue.

The government do keep in mind the unemployed and thats by investing in the infrustructure of the country therefore creating more job opportunites for Omani youth.

If we are going to think like that (giving money to the unemployed) we might as well increase the amount of money giving to citizens living on social security. There are cases of families with 5 or 8 members and their only income is RO 80!

Tiny Heart
30-01-07, 11:45 PM
~ who deserves it?

I say Private Sector Employees...
Y? Coz they work Harder, Longer Hours & with Conscious...
When they enter their offices, they dont spend it by reading pepers all day long, playing cross words, drinking coffee, roaming around sections 4 chit chats & hang out @ the cafateria next door like who ......... does.

HITMAN
31-01-07, 02:21 AM
they dont spend it by reading pepers all day long, playing cross words, drinking coffee, roaming around sections 4 chit chats & hang out @ the cafateria next door like who ......... does.

I do agree that certain employees do all of the above regularly

But you can't generalize

Many do say that private sector is better because you develop a better career or get promoted more rapidly...etc, but eventually majority prefer working for Governemt sector for many obvious reasons

Government sector :super:

XQ
31-01-07, 07:07 AM
Thats a fact that accompanys every increase for the government sector, it just de-motivate people to work in the private sector thats not to mention the weekend thing.

However, these days its quite easy to work in the private sector, with the needed experience, and hit two thousands RO easily per month. Especially in Sohar area.

Pygmalion
31-01-07, 07:25 AM
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I hope they consider the rise in prices and I hope they will come up with a scheme to stop it. I just feel so sorry for the poor guys who have no work and most often come from poor families. It breaks the heart looking at them in the street, doing nothing! Or working for long hours a day for a little pay that doesn’t even payoff for their personal need not to talk about establishing a family.

Pygmalion
31-01-07, 07:25 AM
I do agree that certain employees do all of the above regularly

But you can't generalize

Many do say that private sector is better because you develop a better career or get promoted more rapidly...etc, but eventually majority prefer working for Governemt sector for many obvious reasons

Government sector :super:

HITMAN
Life is changing and so should people’s perspective. The public sector is deteriorating and has no future, I always tell my friends who are getting employed in the government to perceive their career there as a transit station to the private one and they should invest time gaining experience, attending short courses and learning softwares and stay standby for a private company which will soon come looking for a person with his experience.

Moreover, hard work is not enough in the public sector, you still have to be lucky or have wasta. While in the private sector, hard work almost always pays off.

XQ
31-01-07, 07:26 AM
^^Agree and I am with you. Whats even not fair about this rise is that some people will get an RO 80 increase while others will get RO 20.

Pygmalion
31-01-07, 07:28 AM
Exactly,
The rich will get richer