View Full Version : Born or Made !


Storm
21-01-07, 11:40 PM
A serial killer who was not born, but made.



I read that statment in one of movies reviews :os

How much do you agree/disagree with that? and WHY ?

I will keep my view for now and see what do you guys think.

Thalia
21-01-07, 11:46 PM
Nature vs nurture.

In this case, a serial killer who knows exactly what he's doing is "nurture" or "made".

Serial killers are very clever people. Because they manage to cover their tracks well enough, buying time to kill again.

STING
22-01-07, 01:09 AM
Like most other similar questions, the answer would be BOTH I guess. Or to be more precise, a mixture of both!

NicoBambi
22-01-07, 02:08 AM
i don't really agree on that because everyone is a serial killer from his/her birth, it's just a choice that you take to become a murderer or not ...
and sometimes someone else can made you a serial killer .. :os
so no, i don't agree anyone can be a serial killer...

Kara
22-01-07, 02:13 AM
As children, serial killers usually show a triad of signs
1. bed wetting beyond the "normal" age
2. cruelty to animals
3. lighting fires

I also went through a phase on reading up about various serial killers and most of them had an abnormal upbringing i.e. parents are criminals, alcoholics, or abused them etc.

So I lean towards them being made.

Mesmie
22-01-07, 03:59 AM
No one's born a criminal. It all has to do with the habitat...the enivronment they were raised in. Their upbringing can majorly influence the way they're going to turn out to be once they reach purberty and onwards.

IceTea
22-01-07, 10:27 AM
This concept of 'serial killer' is found in the western countries only, even there are people who are their job to kill people.

People are born innocent and clean but having the basic human being intuition, the brain is empty like a new memory chip.

Thalia
22-01-07, 12:10 PM
This concept of 'serial killer' is found in the western countries only, even there are people who is their job to kill people only.

People are born innocent and clean but having the basic human being intuition, the brain is empty like a new memory chip.

Guess you better get your atlas out and look up Russia, mate. While you're at it, you might wanna google Russian organised crime. And what can be more organised than a terrorist attack, killing many in one go? :hmm:


Serial killers are found in the western countries only (http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20020315-042500-2496r). :rolleyes:

Really, only the western ones (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-2536152,00.html).

As in only Europe (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2004-02/01/content_301992.htm), and only USA (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7209473/). Unless you eat your victims (http://www.answers.com/topic/yoo-young-chul)too.


:hyper:
woooh what a great start to my day, thanks for that...

IceTea
22-01-07, 01:44 PM
Exceptional cases and people who like to imitates others do exist, now you don't want me to bring statistics, don't you? :hyper:

bugzmagnet
22-01-07, 02:20 PM
Hmmm i doubt if somebody was ever born A SERIAL killer.i think the surroundings of the particular person during his child hood plays an important role.i mean if a kid grew up around unhappy enviroment...being beaten by parents...scolded most of the time...no friends....no care and love then most likely he will end up a serial killer or something

Storm
22-01-07, 03:46 PM
This concept of 'serial killer' is found in the western countries only, even there are people who are their job to kill people.


I really don't agree on this ! ... you can find them anywhere IceTea !

IceTea
22-01-07, 03:47 PM
Do they exist in UAE?

Storm
22-01-07, 03:49 PM
I will go with made !

cause as said, each person born innocent and up on the environment / situations/f amilies a person might be made a killer

So they are not born .. They are made

Storm
22-01-07, 03:51 PM
Do they exist in UAE?

Did I said everywhere or anywhere :mmhmm:

What I wanted you to know that it's not a western concept !

Thalia
22-01-07, 04:22 PM
Do they exist in UAE?
I know you'll hate me for this.. but..

http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/05/03/14/156097.html


:hyper:

Rossonero
22-01-07, 04:31 PM
No one is born a murderer, everyone is born normal. It is how they were raised and what surrounds them..their culture too. Their past, their suffering..

Are you born a genius or did you make up your way to be a genius by Studying?

Thalia
22-01-07, 04:44 PM
No one is born a murderer, everyone is born normal. It is how they were raised and what surrounds them..their culture too. Their past, their suffering..

Are you born a genius or did you make up your way to be a genius by Studying?
Exactly. Some tribes in Africa give guns to 5 year old kids. Many, being forced into becoming child soldiers, have murdered or killed someone by the age of ten. What are the chances that this child will grow up to actually get a high out of killing?

I guess serial killers aren't just any killers. They premeditate it and plan out their crimes carefully. Like mad perfectionists.

The brain.
22-01-07, 05:03 PM
Sure I go with made..

And many things as movies as one example could give a serial killer the feeling that he is doing excellent job.. and in some time it one of the main drive to one in the process of imitation the Film main actor to kill and be a hero….( link:http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/index.html)

I will not go through the egos and super egos inside the person that could prevent killing desire from being washing his brain and exposing him to loosing his consciousness by continuing his act,
But I really put a lot of blames on the ‘loose’ laws where it allows freedom for one suspect to go on and on doing extra crimes and people still looking for solid evidence against him..

So a ‘ loose’ Law could play a big role in making one a serial killer ..

Ghost477
22-01-07, 06:23 PM
Do they exist in UAE?In fact, they do. I heard a case about a serial killer who used to stab women in the UAE. All i know is that he got caught.

Fengy posted the an article about it, oh and i heard he was Indian.

Nella
23-01-07, 01:38 AM
i believe they're made..humans are born innocent and pure..it's the upbringing, the enviroment and well, some ppl go nuts just like that :mmhmm:

BrAiKi
23-01-07, 02:12 AM
IMHO, all human beings are born in with the same innocent nature, but things AND people that surround them will make them whatever they become. Their lifestyles, environment, role models, etc. make their personalities and affect on them. Therefore, I think a serial killer is made but not born

wudjab
23-01-07, 02:13 AM
Seriously, I believe serial killers have their brain wired differently. So I would have to say born.

Black Lolly
23-01-07, 02:36 AM
There are some kids who act weirdly since childhood :os ?
Or maybe it's just TV :shy:??

NiGhTFaCe
23-01-07, 02:38 AM
I guess life has an effect on them, so I say made!

Threadlike
23-01-07, 03:28 PM
I'll go with made.
Most serial killers had either divorced or abusive parents and some of them live a life of insecurity. Some of them had even killed his relatives at teenage. So technically, it's all the product of many, untreated psychological disorders.