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toxic_honey
22-09-06, 08:05 AM
something that i did by photoshop

my idea in this one
the women face ..Erath..
her hair..with flowers is the naural..

they say the crown of the woman beauty is her hair
and what i see the crown of the earth beauty is the
pretty healthy nautral
that was my view

hope u would like it :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/toxic_honey/dont-hunt.jpg

Jeff
22-09-06, 08:20 AM
Nice contrast between the colors and the grey and white negative of the face. That's an interesting idea!

And I like how, though the colors are bright for you, still there are many sort of dusty colors...the dark red, the purplish-blue and the mustardy yellow, to pull the pallete in the direction of less bright colors...

It's as if she is by herself she has no life, but she's pulling it from nature and the flowers...

Very good. The work of an ARTIST.

Cute_Ting
22-09-06, 08:25 AM
I really like it Love the color and effects Great job two thumbs up

nosa
22-09-06, 10:58 AM
i really loved the whole thing n colors... n the very abstract feeling..

but i wanna ask how did u do it? did u draw it all or did u use ready brushes??

n i couldnt understand the title n the pic's connection >>maybi im still sleeping so i dont estw3b :p

toxic_honey
22-09-06, 10:46 PM
well thx to all of u

well i didnt fill the head of roses! coz the nautral is missing!!
and about how i did it... the face is something that i did by myself
the flowers r blushers from there and here ... tried to mix things together ;)

Miss G
22-09-06, 11:30 PM
i love abstract art, which is y i really like this 1... gr8 contrast of colours... i like the whole idea u had behind it....

dija
22-09-06, 11:56 PM
Kulololololololosheeeee :hyper:

Ya5y you're talented mashalla ya bint :) just keep up the great job 7abibti and always remember you're a star in your own way :*

Tiny Heart
23-09-06, 02:03 AM
that's 1 awosme art work Toxic... realy nice....

but girl :p i wanna ask.. what's the connect of Dont Hunt with the pic :p

toxic_honey
23-09-06, 04:27 PM
miss G : thx dear 4 ur kind words

dija : a star!! thats too much!! but thx! :)

TH: my twin in sabla ... well read what i said about what i did
and u donna know why DONT HUNT! ;)

$w€€ŧ¥
23-09-06, 04:36 PM
nice drawing
and i loved how u descibed ur painting, nothing much beautiful than an art with a story :)

keep it up dear, looking forward to see more of this

moomad
23-09-06, 09:50 PM
not bad Tox :) could've done better with the colors but i LOVED how simple and creative this is ;)

toxic_honey
26-09-06, 04:25 AM
thx guys

well ya..
the art should be with a story ... or it wont be a real art ;)

fatamooo
26-09-06, 04:45 AM
I think this is my favorite Toxic Art :p - when you say you did it by yourself you mean you used photoshop or some computer program right? Lol I know stupid q but I suck at visual art technical stuff :p I just know that I LIKE! Especially the contrast between the fact and the flowers :)

pReTtY_sIcKo
02-10-06, 07:39 AM
i saw it befooooooooor hehhe as usual great idea n job keep it up gurl :D

Ichigo
02-10-06, 06:23 PM
i liked the colors in her hair....nice idea as well...;)

Mesmie
02-10-06, 10:26 PM
I love it! The flowers are superB :D

NicoBambi
02-10-06, 11:10 PM
nice flower hair ^^ :p

Rossonero
03-10-06, 02:50 AM
Nice toxic :)

toxic_honey
03-10-06, 05:34 AM
thx u all ;)

glad u liked it guys

TripleTee
03-10-06, 01:12 PM
not bad toxic. good attempt :)

Phat
03-10-06, 01:32 PM
Marvellous, Keep Us Updated.

NaBHaN
03-10-06, 05:17 PM
it's interesting and the combination of flowers are quite nice but I think they should have been arranged in a better way instead of placed randomly on top of her head and on top of each other. over all it's pleasant to look at..so good job. :)

Senorita
03-10-06, 10:50 PM
Nice, the flowers remind of some types of hats on her head there, also of women who have fruits held on their heads or joined to their hats or something, heh. The bee there and the fly? lol. gives it an interesting touch as well, heh. Though, I feel there's something wrong with the face, perhaps, the grey colour or so but, nicely done. Also, if the font was something different, more "flowerish" or colourful like the flowers there, would've looked more better or so. Would've liked to see that. the flowers look all nice together with their colours. Good work and nice view, btw :)

Nella
03-10-06, 11:13 PM
loved it :cute:

P.S: have nothing to say :XD:

Jeff
03-10-06, 11:18 PM
it's interesting and the combination of flowers are quite nice but I think they should have been arranged in a better way instead of placed randomly on top of her head and on top of each other. over all it's pleasant to look at..so good job. :)

"Randomly"?

"arranged in a better way"? :os

Competition getting to you, N?

Shinoda LP
03-10-06, 11:36 PM
I loved it, TH. Much better than some artists' works I've seen here on sabla.

NaBHaN
04-10-06, 12:31 AM
"Randomly"?

"arranged in a better way"? :os

Competition getting to you, N?

I know you're a big fan of her work Jeff and I respect toxic's efforts but I am also known for my honest reviews and since I am a graphic designer and I chose this as my profession I assure you..I know what I am talking about when I use words such as 'random' and I don't fear any 'competition' as you stated..in fact I hope that all sabla members become better artists than me. :)

p.s: it would be nice to read your comments on every artwork that is posted in this section. ;)

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Toxic: I also forgot to mention that the face seems rather pixelated. What tool did you use to create that?

Jeff
04-10-06, 02:53 AM
I know you're a big fan of her work Jeff and I respect toxic's efforts but I am also known for my honest reviews and since I am a graphic designer and I chose this as my profession I assure you..I know what I am talking about when I use words such as 'random' and I don't fear any 'competition' as you stated..in fact I hope that all sabla members become better artists than me. :)

p.s: it would be nice to read your comments on every artwork that is posted in this section. ;)

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Toxic: I also forgot to mention that the face seems rather pixelated. What tool did you use to create that?

Nabhan--I respect your judgment in a general way, which is why I was so completely thrown for a loop by your comment. I'm sure you wouldn't just tell a lie about what you thought. But I see absolutely nothing random about that piece...it's flowers, it's a garden, it has to have the organization of nature--to some extent--not geometry. Make it too schematic and it's gonna die! The FACE, which we normally think of as having LIFE, IS geometric and schematic, like a ghost or something that hasn't had life poured into it yet. The source of the life which the face can draw on is all those flowers, pouring like a curtain or a river. It's a brilliant idea, brilliantly executed. Could it be improved? Maybe. But improvement has to stay true to the vision of the piece.

No, I see nothing random there at all.

I thought the Drowning piece was great and I said so. Extremely powerful. And I try to comment on all the pieces I like by everybody, though sometimes I'm sure I miss a few. And I try very hard to point to what I like and what I don't like, while I keep to an encouraging tone in general.

I am not an artist or a graphic designer, but I grew up with a photographer dad and a painter grandmom and I've looked at visual arts carefully all my life. I like Toxic Honey a whole lot as a person. But if I hated her, I would still say that she is a standout by having a real original vision. She finds something of her own in the world with her eye and that's rare. When I see her stuff, I think "Toxic Honey!" in the same way I think, "Blake!" or "Monet!" (Not that she's anywhere near their level of achievement yet, of course.) She has an absolutely original sense of color, for one thing.

I don't think I'm imagining it. I'm sure she still has a lot to learn and she could learn more from you than from most others here. But of everybody here--including you--she is the one that I would most expect to find hanging on the walls of a museum one day.

So, when you say that maybe this or that pixellation technique might help, I think it's great. But when you say something that sounds like, "Hey, you didn't really know what you were doing", then I have to jump in and say, "No, Honey, you know what you're doing. Trust yourself, not Nabhan. If he doesn't get it, he's the one that's mistaken." That's BECAUSE you're smart and good at this stuff, you see. Because you have the capacity to discourage more than most of us.

The argument is with Nabhan, but not AGAINST Nabhan. It's FOR Toxic_Honey. For Honey, the artist (yes, artist), not the great girl. For Nabhan the person and the graphic master, I have respect, despite my earlier comment.

NaBHaN
04-10-06, 04:05 AM
Dear Jeff.. with all due respect the rules of graphics are VERY different than the rules of 'painting' or 'photography' (I have studied in depth the difference between each one of those) which is why you probably don't get what is actually wrong with that piece. Show it to anyone who truely understands graphics and I will "cut off my ear" - pun intended - if that person says that it's an excellent piece of graphics.

I am not saying that it's bad..because it's not but it has some major flaws which I pointed out in order for toxic to take note of it and improve the next time because it gives me great joy to see an arab improve in the graphics department no matter who that person is.

So I really can't argue with you unless you actually take the time to read in depth about graphics..either that or in the future you'll just have to trust my judgement and take it that I am here to critisize with the intention of helping the members and not to put them down for absolutely no reason at all.

Jeff
04-10-06, 05:15 AM
NaBHan:

No, sorry, I can't agree with you at all.

To look at an visual image of flowers and a face and talk about composition and idea does not require the slightest knowledge of graphics, or oil painting, or sketch technique, or etching.

To discuss the TECHNICAL aspects of those things DOES, for sure. But the essential question of image and idea and color certainly does not. A person who knows all about the technical aspects of graphics can produce junky art. And they can like junky art, too. On the other hand, a person who has an immense native talent can produce far better things, even if they are primitive technically. Everyone admires the painter Rousseau even though his technical ability was poor. Blake's watercolor wash technique leaves a lot to be desired, too. They are both great artists, however.

I didn't see any technical criticism in what you said. It was an artistic criticism. I still haven't seen any justification of your remarks in artistic terms. You've just said: "I've studied graphics, so I can judge graphic ART better than someone who hasn't."

The only answer to that is that it is obviously untrue. I've never even heard anyone claim it except you!

To repeat: I didn't object to the idea that it left something to be desired as graphics. I don't know if it does or it doesn't. I objected to your criticism: Random arrangement of the flowers. That has nothing to do with graphics. It has to do with composition. Composition, idea, color: these are not essentially graphics questions, but artistic ones.

As a conception, as a composition, it is marvellous. Graphics technique? Well, I leave that up to you. Criticize away and I'm sure we will all sit at your feet and learn.

Jeff
04-10-06, 06:46 AM
Look, Nabhan, I'm afraid this is detracting from the thread and that's my fault to a large extent. So, I'll leave you the last word, and reiterate that I wasn't trying to attack you, but to defend this piece, "Don't Hunt", which I think is very, very good.

Let me just end by repeating how great I thought "And She was Never Heard from Again" was. It packed an enormous punch and I still think of it often. I don't know much about graphics technique, true. But as a piece of art, communicating something even to non-artists, it was great.

NaBHaN
04-10-06, 08:32 AM
I didn't see any technical criticism in what you said.

well I'm not sure what you read but my comment was actually mostly technical ( arranging the elements of the design - which actually is one of the first lessons u learn as a graphic designer so i really don't understand what u mean by it having nothing to do with graphics - and fixing the pixelation of the face comment) and then i said that the colors chosen were lovely which is my artistic comment. so i guess your theory applies completely in this case and i didn't break any of your rules.

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I don't know what you mean by 'not attacking' but i for sure felt attacked when you made the 'fear competition' comment which I really didn't understand why you felt the need to post but one thing is for sure that I didn't take it personally and just took this as a chance to explain myself before other members get the wrong idea about me.

all in all this was a good discussion and i suppose we'll just have to agree on disagreeing for the time being.