Mixed schools, good or Taboo?

[Tom]

Is it a good thing mixing genders in school or not? I for one believe that we should not segregate people based on sex. It makes school more exciting and more interesting to go to. http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/smile.gif
But on the serious side, it teaches us more important things such as equality. My ex-classmates where beautiful, but more then that I learned to appreciate them for who they were, intelligent women who had a voice. Religion forbids these interactions between male and female, but I say as time changes, so must we.

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T.S

[Neena]

Talking about mixed school ... I believe its a way to make it intresting going to school to be honest . And its also a way to learn lots of things .

Its very much true that being in a mixed schoolteach us lots of things. For example .. you just find it normal talking to the oposit sex ... you don't find it wired or not comfertable . As lots of ppl In oman find it talking to the oposit sex not a good thing or its as if you comited a crime or something .

Its also true some ppl don't find it very comfertable being with the different sex ... as girls being with guys in a class room as they don't have the freedom of doing whatever they want too. But i guess by time .. thinsg will just apper differently .

Cheers

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Al Harthy

[UnKnown]

Hello Mr. Tom, I’m not sure whether I know you or not, but heyy haven’t we met before!!! hehehe

In reply to your post about mixing genders in schools, this issue is a bit complicated, and I very much think that if schools are mixed it would be much better for the persons social life, as you said Mr. Tom, it’s equality that is important.

I can’t really brain storm on this subject meanwhile. Seems like I’m not in the mood (Hint--->> someone is upset on me and I hate it http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/confused.gif )

La8rr

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[Tom]

Interesting thoughts Curious7. I guess there is a lack of communication between us males and females back in Oman. What can we do to reach that level of communication between the genders? Mixed schools is a good start. If people notice, it is when we are young that we form our perception of life. As we grow and perceive life, we come to our conclusions, and after that it is very hard to think differently of our thoughts. I think in life we should live to learn, not learn to live. The more we understand, the better we are off.

As for Unknown, Who is upsetting you? You must brain storm us to educate us. Tell me about it. E-mail me, talk to me or post the juicy info.
Take care and God bless our cotton socks.

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T.S

[UnKnown]

Well, what can i say Tom, but you know, sometimes #$^% happens.

Anyhow, i don't think there's much to talk about with this topic, though it is an important one. Maybe we can come up with some thing more "Jazzy" to drag the other readers attention.

@@ yaa la8r buddy.

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[PILOT]

Idest agrre 2 ur idea

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Üíßã PILOTÇÎÜÜÜ
YOU have the right to hold your opinion

[Tom]

Ok Mr Pilot, that was a very convincing argument. How can I share your wisdom. You argued your points with great explanations. I thank you for sharing your wisdom with us small people.

God bless your cotton socks.

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T.S

[UnKnown]

Greetings all.

Tom, i don't get it! what was PILOT's point of view? i didn't understand what he said, i need some feedback from you, and can you as well explain to me your story with "Cotton Socks"!!!

La8r Ga8r ;-)

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[Tom]

Well Unknown, I was being sarcastic about Pilot's comment which was in English "I disagree to your idea," his comment was very convincing don't you think? Bless your cotton sucks is just an old way of saying Bless you. Anything else Sir? http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/smile.gif


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T.S

[UnKnown]

Hmmm!!!

Well nothing else is there, just make sure to wash your socks http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/wink.gif hehehe

Regards.

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[PILOT]

HI folks
Iam in london 4 my vaction
but i have to anser u
we are moslem .
do think thise good idea
no no no no no no no
no mix


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Üíßã PILOTÇÎÜÜÜ
YOU have the right to hold your opinion

[Em6anash]

Tom what u said is 100% wrong,,,,u said the time changes and we must change also ???,,,,hey we have a Religion called Islam we have one God and Islam dosen't allowe mixing between man and woman,,,and who agree with you is like to say i dont believe in God and say Islam is wrong,,some ppl might say i'm not open minded but i'm an open minded but this is something about religion and we can't say it have to change by the time changes

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em6anash

[A.Hakeem Ali]

Its realy a hot subject and lets discuss it very deeply. First, let us answer this question: Are we Muslims or not? If yes, then the Islam forbidden mixing between male & female for so many reason and please let us read more about our religon. If we we are not Muslims -God forbid- let us just be realy open minded people. Please read about the American & Germany experience in this subject. These two countries thinking serouisly to separate boys & girls is schools.

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There is no God except ALLAH.

[VICTOR]

Hi to all,

I would also like to post my comments in here.
I think having a mix genders in school might end up with more problems compared with the benifits.
So am personaly not encourging the mixing gendors in school.

Regards to you all,

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[Patrol]

Guys..

I am quite surprised about arguing in this subject but it seems to me that the whole people who contributed and supported the mixing process in our schools are really NARROW MINDED and not OLD enough to talk about it.

Brothers and sisters:
Being abroad for stuyding does not mean that we should be affected by the others cultures.
I can say the same bout TV as well.

We can go further and compare the performance of our private schools (where there is mixing) and local schools and see which one is better.

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Shining diamond can shine anywhere.

[Patrol]

Guys..

I am quite surprised about arguing in this subject but it seems to me that the whole people who contributed and supported the mixing process in our schools are really NARROW MINDED and not OLD enough to talk about it.

Brothers and sisters:
Being abroad for stuyding or touring does not mean that we should be affected by the others cultures.
I can say the same about TV as well.

We can go further and compare the performance of our private schools (where there is mixing) and local schools and see which one is better.

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Shining diamond can shine anywhere.

[Tom]

I am really surprised and disappointed to see all my brothers don't see the big picture as I do (notice I said brothers because most who answered are male). In stead of excelling in to the future, we are moving back in time. In a world such as now we need to adapt to the worlds growing demands and move with the growing technology. However, with this mentality that man and women should not mix puts us back fifty years. How are we supposed to train our younger generation for the future? If we cannot recognize that women today play an important role in the world of business, then we are defiantly in trouble. Oman is a small country, and we cannot survive without the help of the West or the far east. look at all the cars in Oman for example, all are imported from non-Muslim countries that do not believe in boys and girls being separated. As we move into the future, the world is becoming smaller and smaller, integration with other nationalities will be necessary.
I consider myself a good Muslim. I am true to my God and to myself. We have other Muslims who pretend to be religious but in truth are big hypocrites, and of course we have radicals. I am not labeling anyone, but like I said, I am a Muslim, I worship my God, and at the same time I adapt to the world. Like the saying says "survival of the fittest," you need to be fit physically and mentally to survive in this global world.

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[Luckydube]

First of alll

hi to all of u...

well without moqademat..

i think that we have to agree with the idea of mixing the genders...

u know y..

well let me give one example.... S.Q.U
the male in s.q.u are going crazy when ever the see a beauty girl...y is that..
simply....coz it is the frist time for them to study with girls in the same classs...
but if the were doing this from schools...then it would have been a diffrenet story...

PICTURE ME ROLLING http://www.omania.net/evip/ubb/smile.gif


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Rasta 4 life

[2cool4u]

So we all agree that schools will be mixed from nowonwards. Im glad

[Kamakazy]

would it ever change? i don't think so.

i guess they are good and bad points in mixed schools and in the same goes for the none mixed schools. it all depends on the student him/herself.

in the same time, perhaps ur parents want u to study somewhere! after all they know the best for u.

in the end we have both mixed and none mixed schools, its ur choice or even ur parents!

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[sukar zyadah]

mixed schools are good in the way that it makes the man change this idea of having the women as a sex tool. it makes him appreciate the other sides of a woman, a colleage, and a partner in work project without the lure bit. on the other hand it makes one wonder, doesnt it make it more difficult for men to handle themselves? well depend on what way you look at it i guess.

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[Kamakazy]

what do u mean sukar zyadah by "handle themselves"? i didn't quiet get u!

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[Powa]

7elwa di sukar...
it seems your are taking it as it is these days...ofcouse MOST(NOT ALL) of men in oman looks at girls as sex tools...
but put it this way..mixed school in oman should be from the begining, i mean boys and girls should start school from their younger age....
psychological, 12 years, in same gender(boys school), after that throw that guy in a mixed society, lets say in university, look what happened? the guy is desperate!!
he's not used to it...dont know how to talk, not confertable with the women sarround him...what do you expect?
so i think if you mixed school is better, but it should start from the begining..
But remember guys, in Islam rules we cannot mix with other gender...but what to do these days....enabidiii


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Powa Da ONe 'N' Only

[sukar zyadah]

dear hate and others
well i went to a private school SS and i think that it does not mean that because you went to one you like the night clubs and stuff like that, a lot of 7uumah students do the same, its a matter of the individual who does the action and i think it is so so so wrong for anyone to make a judgement on the whole becuase of the few individuals that they have encounterd in thier lives.
take care all
hate nothing personal my beother just change of thoughts and ideas
have a great day

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ITS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE!!

[Tom]

I agree with Powa and luckydube. We can't just mix the genders and expect them to get along. It has to start at a younger age when the children have no idea what sex is. In this world today, where it is essantial for the genders to communicate togather wether at work, universtity or even on the roads, we need to teach our younger generation the proper ways of acting around the opposite sex. One way of doing this is by estabishing mixed schools for everyone. The more you hang around the different genders, the more comfertable you'll be.

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T.S

[HATE_QOOM_LOOT]

After all these postings I would like to say something:
NOTE PLEASE ( I DON'T MEAN ALL OF THEM ,,, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS)
Sultans private school and many private schools in oman have graduated huge number of omanies (just go and meet these people then write your openion)I know many people who studied in these schools doesn't like what I wrote but this is the fact.
I don't want to mention (names)many friends and other people who just I know , finished their studing from mixed schools and studing overseas (just go and take a look what they are doing there) the girls look like foriegners and the boys the same , in the discos and night clubs ,,,even I know some girls have boyfriends from european countries.
Do you think that this is good results of mixed schools.
There is another thing many people in oman let their boys study in mixed schools and the girls in goverment schools ( go and ask them why ) they are worreid about their girls but not worried about others girls when they mix with their boys.
Believe me I raised with many people who studied in mix schools , they are not better than others but in my openion worse, they think that the night club and discos and the drink and enjoing the life is the only thing in this life.
Many of them don't know how to pray.
They are my friends and when I try to tell them about pray they tell me that I am back (muta'7alef) don't you feel soory for them.
Brothers and sisters: when you will be old enough then you will recognize which is better and which is not.

I REPEAT NOT ALL OF MIX SCHOOLS PEOPLE ARE BAD ,,,, THERE ARE FEW GOOD.

Allah yehdihom we yehdena bas


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I LOVE YOU ALL BUT NOT THE GAY'S

[7ashaash]

What was wrong when people were studying separately, or they just want to follow their uncle sam (america).
my brothers sent your childrens in future to free schools of goverment.
We know goverment want them go to private to make the costs less( laken galseen foq raskom) you will pay for our studying until the end.

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7ashaash laken sa7i

[Kamakazy]

Moved!

[Arabian Princess]

Well .. First of all we should be clear about what we mena about mixing schools ..
If you guys are talking about the new basic education system .. then it mixinggenders from grade one to four and then seperate them .. If you are talking about mixing schools from grade one to grade 12 then you are talking about private schools ..
about basic education system .. I agree with it .. the kids are small here and knowing taht girls are like them and getting used to interact with them when the kid is still clean and pure is better because then he will build a better Idea how to interact with women ..
BUT .. I am against mixing genders after sizth grade .NO and thousends of NO .. because at this age .. boys and girls start to build intrest to each other and this might creat conflict between our social values and the students values .. here they will not learn to respect women but it might degrade thier thinking about women since both of them are not matured at that age ..
However, when they reach to teh age to go to the university .. mixing genders are not a problem anymore .. both are matured and learnt to respect teh pther gender and at the same time share Ideas with them ( mixing in the values of Islam where all have resectable distance between each other)

This is my opionin .. and lets see what you think!

[Jadgaliya]

i have an objection to what was said.. i am a girl who studied in a mixed school.. and now, i am in uk to complete my studies.. when i was in school, we were a group of about 24 students in one class.. 10 females and 14 males.. we respected each other very much.. and to tell u the truth.. many of my female friends had boyfriends and surprisingly only three girls had boyfriends from the same school.. and guess what.. the boys werent even in our class.. o ba3dain.. look at SOME of the girls in government schools.. just look at them!! after school.. il go3ri malha waqif 3and il bab.. waiting to take her for a ride after she finishes her lessons.. and look at the number of cases reported about the girls in government schools who RUN AWAY from lessons to go see their boyfriends.. am not saying that all the girls in mixed schools are good.. there are bad ones.. but going to a mixed school doesnt make u a bad girl if u r a girl.. o ba3dain about the dicos and night clubs.. i havent been into ONE single night club or disco since i got here.. so u cant say that girls from mixed schools find it okay to go there.. and one mor thing.. it all goes back to the way a girl or boy is brought up.. if he/she is brought up in a family where islam and good manners is a priority, then nothing, and i mean NOTHING will change that..

[Omania18]

hi everyone.
I think this is a very complicated issue and the fact is that as some of u have mentioned is hard to judge whether it's good or bad.I have personally been through exactly the stages that arbprnces have mentioned I was in a private school till 6th grade then moved to a govenment school.
I think I did mind it both ways although I'd have to say being with girls was really comfortable at some points.
Jadgaliya don't be upset I totally believe u and from my expeirence of mixing with ppl from either schools I'd have to say it really depends on the person .( my friend who was in a Private school is one of the most conservative and respectful girls I ever met ).
Even if a girl or guy were in a government school and wanted to do something they'll do it anyways and maybe what could be said here that being in a Private school would make it easier for such ppl.
It's very hard to tell but I could say that I agree with arbprnces to a certain extent .
Once this Islamic studies instructor came to our school and he said something that might be useful to tell everybody.He told us do u think that me being here between all u girls is Haram?? the answer was no because allah said it was 7aram for a man and woman to be totally alone but me in between u all and commin for learning purposes is not we r all discussing good ideas and it's useful.
In the end I think as Kamakazy said it all depends on the person and how thier parents raised them to be.

[reena]

we can't keep both gender separated in school for ever,
the topic we now are discussing about ,was still taboo 25 years ago,now things have changes,and it will continue that way,now that male and female are used to work together,to share the same public spaces,i don't see how we could recommand a separation while a mix will make them used to each other,they will learn how to respect each other,how to develop real friendship whithout any hidden intention.
i mean it's like chocolate,if a child is allowed to eat alitle bit chocolateon regular time,he will be used to it,and he will never think about getting an overdose of it,wich is not the case of a child who will discover chocolate for the first time,he will eat until he get sick.
my example is may be not very clear ,but i hope you got it ;)