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Nella
03-09-06, 02:41 PM
Nowadays governments and societies use different ways they see best in executing e.g.: Electric chair, Gas, Hanging, etc…

What in your opinion is the most merciful way of ending someone's life?
And why do you think so?

Soulless
03-09-06, 02:49 PM
A Chemical injection is too harmless :p


Off Topic :
My Brother Nella :

no matter how a person was killed it just depends upon his deeds and actions towards allah if he was a sinless person even if he was excuted by nuclear weapon it wont effect him as much as it effects a sinful person.

Back To The topic :

well for my opinion the least painful way to be executed is to be giving
over dose medicine until he leaves this life.

NicoBambi
03-09-06, 02:53 PM
i don't think execution should exist ...
but to answer ur Q a bullet in the heart ... it's quick

pixie girl
03-09-06, 03:25 PM
I guess It depends on what the person did, if it was a horrible crime then maybe an electric chair..I'm not really sure how these things work

eL3yo0oN
03-09-06, 03:42 PM
i agree with metal priest, a chemical injected is the best way cuz the person wont feel a thing but will die slowly lol maybe execution shouldnt exist! its scaary :os

qawmji
03-09-06, 03:53 PM
ishare3a way has been proven the best.

NicoBambi
03-09-06, 03:59 PM
ishare3a :think: what's that ?

fatamooo
03-09-06, 04:40 PM
nico: Islamic law.

Hellooo you guys execution should definitely exist!! Do you guys really know the level of scum some people have reached in the world? Having them alive is just a threat to the world in every way possible.

Anyways I think lethal injection is more merciful

PsYcHo
03-09-06, 05:08 PM
Bullet to the head or heart. Very effective, they're gone in a second.

Nella
03-09-06, 09:46 PM
what about chopping the head off?

i heard it's the fastest and most merciful..

i'm with fatamooo..it has to exist..i mean if it wasn't supposed to how come it's there in religions and in history..execution is like one of the first things human beings did on earth remember? :rolleyes:

has any of you ppl watched the Green mile? i think it shows how horrible the electric chair is :mmhmm:

BTW
i'm a sister :angel:

BliNd_MelOn
03-09-06, 09:51 PM
Im against execution.... I think.. well, I know im against the Electric Chair and Gas Chamber...
Nella, you have no idea how much I cried watching the Green Mile.. EVERYTIME!

fft.. Killing a person is just too horrible.. I do know and correct me if Im wrong, but the Islamic way to execute someone and for the crime of murder (anything else?) is beheading, with a sword.. The soul suffers the least this way..

The Electric Chair and the Gas Chamber, is considered to be torturing the soul, which is forbidden (Haram).

fatamooo
03-09-06, 10:02 PM
Yep I'm completely against things which make people suffer and go through torture; after all, that's not up to us to punish in that way. What is up to us is how safe we can keep people from murderers, etc. I don't even think prison for life is enough, cause prison in itself is a whole other burden.

MorphaKnight
04-09-06, 01:52 AM
the guillotine did it best.. chopping the head off is quick and somewhat painless.

But anyways I'm against executions merely because it doesn't make people suffer for their crimes.. and I say life imprisonment can make people suffer.. along with manual labor.. its a pretty effective way.

Miss G
04-09-06, 01:58 AM
But anyways I'm against executions merely because it doesn't make people suffer for their crimes.. and I say life imprisonment can make people suffer.. along with manual labor.. its a pretty effective way.

i c ur point, but as a person who believes in God i think no matter how easy or tough a person has it, they'll get what they deserve from God. no punishment in this life can measure 2 the punishment this person will get once it's his/her time.

back 2 the topic. as some of u mentioned, im very against anything tht would torture a person, which means anything tht would lead 2 a slow painful death. beheading (the islamic way) or chemical injections tht dont cause the person 2 feel any pain.

fatamooo
04-09-06, 03:08 AM
yeah I don't think it's up to us to determine their punishment. Executing them isnt so much as a punishment to them but more of a way of keeping the streets menace-free and also of course a warning to other people.

Nella
04-09-06, 11:51 AM
originally posted by BliNd_MelOn
Nella, you have no idea how much I cried watching the Green Mile.. EVERYTIME!

same here :weep:

originally posted by BliNd_MelOn
The Electric Chair and the Gas Chamber, is considered to be torturing the soul, which is forbidden (Haram).

exactly :mmhmm:

Dark Project
04-09-06, 03:55 PM
Shot on the head .. Ayyyyy whatever different ways in Execution ,death is the same ....

fatamooo
04-09-06, 03:58 PM
Ugh I think beheading is the WORST way - I heard people who were killed by the guillotine, when their heads come off, they are alive long enough to see blood spilling out of their neck!!! gross!

Nella
05-09-06, 10:25 AM
originally posted by fatamooo
Ugh I think beheading is the WORST way - I heard people who were killed by the guillotine, when their heads come off, they are alive long enough to see blood spilling out of their neck!!! gross!

it doesn't sound real to me..

well, (IT'S) the most merciful way to ((ME))..i'd rather have blood all over me than being tortured to death..

like death is not enough :mmhmm:

MorphaKnight
05-09-06, 10:40 AM
I still stand by my argument as I find people who rely a little too much on God are quite naiive. Relying, praying and hoping to God for something to happen is okay but you shouldn't depend on it on every issue.. The same goes in real life. If you help people too much, they'll be depended of you and if you don't well they'll be independent.

A criminal may have wronged the moral codes of God but he/she also wronged the society or community. Criminals thrive on the "naiivity" of the society and use society's laws to live their life in their own way which isn't really much of a punishment.

Prophet Solomon has brought justice among quarellers, fighters and punished those who wrong society's laws. You have to have judges who bring this justice and order to stablise and balance the society.. without them there would be a lot more corruption than it is.

Jeff
05-09-06, 11:02 AM
I don't know what the best method is, but I think execution is far more merciful than keeping someone in prison for life, like we do in America.

You read about these old, old guys, long ago stopped being criminals, writing stories and gardening, trapped FOREVER in a prison camp, with no hope of EVER getting out. THAT's cruelty. 10 to 15 years maximum or if that's not good enough, death.

Most of our executions now are by lethal injection. How is it done in Oman? Or is it?

Nella
05-09-06, 11:21 AM
yeah how is it done here in oman?

anyone?

Froggsie
09-09-06, 08:28 PM
I think that in extreme cases execution should be used - but to use a method that is effectivly torture is bad, it drops us to their level. I think perhaps using lethal injection, its quick and painless - making us not barbaric...but the criminal still pays with their life.

Nella
09-09-06, 10:12 PM
well,i'd rather be a Barbarian than a Torturer :mmhmm:

ScarHead (Muhu)
09-09-06, 10:19 PM
PSYCO is right ,, a HEAD SHOT .. THTS IT ,, less than a moment and ur gone ,, not the electric chair ,, u dance for a minute b4 dying

Froggsie
09-09-06, 10:22 PM
Nella u mis read - what i mean is that yes do execution
but if we do certain methods of execution then we're as bad as the criminals (eg torture methods make us barbaric)
so just use methods like the lethal injection - quick and painless...but the criminal still pays with their life

fatamooo
09-09-06, 10:55 PM
I think in Oman they execute by shooting them right? I'm not sure...

death rose
09-09-06, 11:02 PM
damn !!

donnu
i dont want it to be by anyway !!

fatamooo
09-09-06, 11:10 PM
Any way of dying is harsh, if I was in charge I probably wouldn't have the guts to order it to be done, but you know it's not fair that these ppl commit such crimes and get away with it!

Nella
09-09-06, 11:45 PM
ok Froggsie..maybe i did :shy:

well, in your opinion in what category beheading falls?? barbaric? or not?

Nella
09-09-06, 11:47 PM
fatamooo you think? :rolleyes:

i thought so too..

anyone knows for sure?? :mmhmm:

i really wanna know :shy:

fatamooo
09-09-06, 11:51 PM
That's how I heard it happens in the Interior regions, with a firing squad of five or seven people or something...

Pink Bubble
10-09-06, 06:28 AM
Execution in Oman is done by Shooting (im not sure how many shots though). Its not opened for the public, however, if the family of the victim wanted to watch the exectution (to feel better and would also stop them from revenging) they are most welcome to watch the offender being shot.

I was talking to a fried about this and i said that i would love to be shot in the heart and die!! its fast and i wont really suffer!!

Somtimes i think execution shouldnt exist buy life time imprisonment should replace execution coz if ur in jail for the rest of ur life and knowing that u would never go out is more stressing more sad and... its really terrible its easier to be shot and gone in a sec!!

The offender being executed and gone i think wouldnt solve the problem coz the victim wud always be in misery! but the offender is GONE in a few secs!

Froggsie
10-09-06, 12:54 PM
ok Froggsie..maybe i did :shy:

well, in your opinion in what category beheading falls?? barbaric? or not?


Thats kind of difficult for me to answer - considering the only knowladge of beheading I have is from my History class. If I base my reply on what I have learnt in History then yes I suppose it would be barbaric, due to the fact that so many things can go wrong eg head doesnt completley detach or that they're actually alive for a secound after the act (not so sure on that one).

But I'm guessing the methods have been improved and that those issues are no longer an issue - so if there is a 100% success rate, and they are immediatly dead after it then no I would not call beheading barbaric.

It really all depends on how far the methods have been progressed.

fatamooo
10-09-06, 01:04 PM
Pink Bubble: The family members of the condemned person are allowed to watch so that they don't take revenge? That doesn't make sense! If they watch their son/brother/cousin being shot wouldn't that make them want to take revenge even more???

MorphaKnight
10-09-06, 01:05 PM
^she said the family of the VICTIM not the condemned >_>

Nella
10-09-06, 09:11 PM
well, i guess so... :rolleyes:

but i still think that an extra sharp umm THING :XD: is the best way..i mean if your head is off how can you see blood spilling out or anything like that?

thanx Froggsie :cute:
well explained ;)

Nella
10-09-06, 09:14 PM
about how it's done here in oman

thanx fatamooo and Pink Bubble for the info's ;)

Froggsie
10-09-06, 10:28 PM
trying to work out if you were being sarcastic nella... :) ..gonna go with serious in which case thx i try.
You do make a good point, but I have heard rumours that you are still aware for something like a secound after the act - in which case you are in immense pain...
Having said that I guess beheading isnt barbaric - altho does kind of make a mess....

MorphaKnight
11-09-06, 04:46 AM
I watched in the simpsons its 5 seconds and yur still alive.. :p

seriously.. can someone die and prove to me yur alive when yur head is chopped off? I mean whats the proof :p

Froggsie
11-09-06, 11:39 AM
Well i think (may be wrong) that its basically you still have oxygen to your brain, in which case you are still aware, and still feel perhaps...but then again your spinal cord was cut off so perhaps you can't feel it anyway. Its a hard one and probably very hard to prove.

Senorita
11-09-06, 03:17 PM
^^I once saw this video of someone's head being chopped off, It was awful. The person was still like alive for a few seconds or so (I don't remember exactly for how long, could've been a min. also!) after his head was off! so..
Execution.. I'd say in prison forever or getting injected. Some people have been committing crimes through ages which are horrible and can't be forgiven for! so, I guess execution is needed to make them stop, speaking of those some pyschos who keep on doing such stuff. and it's like, you took someone's life by killing 'em, your life deserves to be taken too.

Froggsie
12-09-06, 01:37 AM
Kinda doubt that it lasts for a minute...wouldnt think that you would have enough oxygen for the brain to stay active for that long. After all if you choke someone for 15 secounds the lack of oxygen to the brain will knock them out. I would think tops of 5 secs.

Night FantaSy
12-09-06, 03:24 AM
Omg he execution in the Green mile was horrible !! it was sooo scary and painful especially withat french guy who got elctriced without a wet spong!! man he burrrnt !! :weep:

i really have no idea which of the ways is less painful and faster, maybe as u guys said the chemical injection or a shot in the heart.

ouii !! i feel shiveres going through my bones as i imagine this !! :XD:

Stewie Griffin
12-09-06, 04:20 AM
Hey guys hows every1? Im stew n this is my 2nd post :P

Well bascially I think the best way is to chop the head off since it is SCIENTFICALLY proven to be the least painful coz the 1st thing u cut is the nerve ..so how would they feel the pain?!

Also I just wanna add somethin about the excution in Oman, I heard that its a number of ppl who perform the shootin n there is only person who has the real bullet while the others dont so that no1 knows who killed him (donno if its just a myth to be honest)..

To Froggsie and Morphaknight: there was this experiment conducted in France long ago to know how long the person stays alive after the head bein chopped off so they asked the person who was gonna be excuted to blink if they could n the person blinked for 3 secs...

I saw a documentary on British national tv( if im not mistaken it was BBC1) few years back of a serial killer in the U.S. I think n just b4 she was goin to be excuted she was asked about her opinion of the best punishment for murder n i was surprised when she said the death penalty. She also said if u kill a person once it just becomes MUCH easier to kill again.

Stewie Griffin
12-09-06, 04:59 AM
Sorry correction:

30 secs not 3 ... I also got this from a website :" In the heyday of the guillotine during the French Revolution, it is said that many of the condemned were asked to blink for as long as possible after decapitation. While many reportedly did not blink at all, some complied for as long as thirty seconds."(source: http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=495)

fatamooo
12-09-06, 05:27 AM
Actually stewie it's the other way around... everybody has real bullets except for one person who has the blanks, so when they shoot, everyone's gonna assume that they are the one shooting the blank, so they wont feel any remorse later on... as far as I know.

Rossonero
12-09-06, 05:27 AM
A bullet in the back of the head,,

thats what george did to lenny

fatamooo
12-09-06, 05:55 AM
Awww rosso don't remind me!!! That was such a saaaaaad story!!! :weep:

Nella
12-09-06, 01:20 PM
ok..i'm confused is it they all have real bullets or only one?? :think:

fatamooo
12-09-06, 05:54 PM
No not all of them have real bullets... only one person doesn't have a real bullet but no one knows who has the fake one so they'll all assume that they had the fake one and not feel the guilt.

Nella
12-09-06, 10:28 PM
oh..ok..thanx for making it clear Sweeta :cute:

Pablo Escobar
13-09-06, 05:50 AM
What?!:os :think: .fatamooo this doesnt make any sense. If there are 10 ppl shooting then they will all feel guilty except for 1 which gives everyone of them a 90% chance that they had the killing bullet ! It is for sure the other way round .Only 1 person has the killing bullet so everyone thinks to themselves it coulndt have been me with only 1 chance in 10. And yah its not a myth..

Hey there Stewie Gilligan Griffin :P isn't that ur full name :P welcome to the forum we r fine thanks. Hope u have a good time in English Sabla and want to see more of ur posts. Btw nice avatar dude ;) :cool:

Lym
13-09-06, 10:05 AM
In Oman, they're executed with a firing squad, so the family of the accused don't know which one actually shot him/her and hence, they can't seek revenge. However, I thought that most of them have blanks bullets and only one person has real bullets which he aims directly for the back of the accused's head; killing him straight away. That makes me more sense than only one of them having blank bullets.

Froggsie
13-09-06, 08:12 PM
Thats a good idea I guess, but at the end of the day some of the people on the squad may end up feeling guiltly anyway - it might backfire. Also the whole stops revenge thing...couldnt the family just go after the whole squad?

fatamooo
14-09-06, 01:41 AM
But if they all had blanks but one, it would be more obvious who had the real bullet wouldn't it?

Nella
14-09-06, 02:06 PM
i'll have to go with fatamooo :cool:

i first thought that all of 'em should have blank bullets but then it'll be too obvious who shot so :rolleyes:

fatamooo
14-09-06, 03:15 PM
a7em a7em :cool:

Lym
14-09-06, 03:20 PM
How would it be obvious? If everyone is shooting at the same time, do you think the human eye can tell which bullet is real and which one isn't? Or for that matter which gun was responsible for his death? They all sound the same, humans can't tell.

It's absurd to think that they all have real bullets shooting at him, mutilating his body and I know, that is against Islamic teachings.

Lym
14-09-06, 03:39 PM
Thats a good idea I guess, but at the end of the day some of the people on the squad may end up feeling guiltly anyway - it might backfire. Also the whole stops revenge thing...couldnt the family just go after the whole squad?

Those people who carry out executions don't feel guilt. They can't afford to. How could they? That's their job and their character can't be merciful or anything of that sort. They've to be strong, vicious and unmerciful. Just like soldiers.

I doubt families can track down the whole firing squad for revange :rolleyes:

fatamooo
14-09-06, 03:57 PM
I'm not sure anymore but as far as I know that's how it's done... it makes sense to me.

Froggsie
14-09-06, 11:34 PM
Those people who carry out executions don't feel guilt. They can't afford to. How could they? That's their job and their character can't be merciful or anything of that sort. They've to be strong, vicious and unmerciful. Just like soldiers.

I doubt families can track down the whole firing squad for revange :rolleyes:

This is true...but was jus kinda pointing out the small flaws :shy:

fatamooo
15-09-06, 12:02 AM
I'm sure they feel some kind of guilt!! Their job is to kill people... that's it - kill a person and get paid... man they must have severe issues to deal with :omg: I feel bad for them cause they're the ones who do the real dirty work :os!!!

Master_R
21-09-06, 12:40 AM
i think...ummm the electrical chair ...nice and quick but never witha na axe like in saudi it's really messy lol
an it should exist!!!!!!!!