View Full Version : Are omanis racists??


Master_R
24-08-06, 03:41 AM
i hve been thinkin bout this for a long time are omanis racists?? as for my humble opinion i do think oman is the most racial country in the world??!??(no offence)llike see how the omanis treat the indians and other tribes and the are racial diffrences like balooshi,3arabi/zingbari,lawati and so on i dont support this kind of action but i presume its in the society and can the government change it ???plz answer my queries:(

The P!an!st
24-08-06, 03:57 AM
I also think that oman is the most racial country in the world .. more that france ,, more than any other place in the world ..... I really dont know why do people still think in the way !! it is so depressing even though Im a 100% omani .... like for god sake it is not his/her fault that s/he was born in this family !! ...
people should CHANGE this way of thinking because actually and before any other reason it is 7ARAM ...

Master_R
24-08-06, 04:03 AM
ya hello this is a big issue talk u ppl lol:D

NicoBambi
24-08-06, 04:03 AM
I also think that oman is the most racial country in the world .. more that france ..
are you saying that france is one of the most racist country ? :mmhmm:

Master_R
24-08-06, 04:04 AM
i dont think is 7ARAM butb maybe makrooh

The P!an!st
24-08-06, 04:13 AM
are you saying that france is one of the most racist country ?


actually Ive been to france once and I guess it is ONE of the most racist country .. add some other countries to that :D .. no offence after all Im not talking about all french people .. I have some really nice french freinds :blush:

fatamooo
24-08-06, 05:20 AM
Really? I always thought of france as being an extremely tolerant place, until recently...

I know that I'm not a racist, although living in Oman for so long has taught me the habit of identifying someone first with their background, and second with themselves.

Jeff
24-08-06, 06:18 AM
Well, I'm going to show this thread to the next Westerner who tells me that Arabs don't know how to engage in self-criticism!

:-D

fatamooo
24-08-06, 06:26 AM
Master R - of course it's haram! Not only does it do harm to the person you're prejudiced against by depriving them of their human rights, but it can harm the racist him/herself. Aside from living in ignorance, which is harm enough in itself, they are closing off acquaintance to entire races of people, who they will never know, and knowledge that they may never have, although which COULD have been so easily obtained. When I think of grown men and women practicing racism sooo obviously and without shame, I honestly can't comprehend how they can look themselves in the mirror.

$w€€ŧ¥
24-08-06, 06:36 AM
comparing to other countries,specially GCC, Omani's are good and well known of good hospitality, kindess at some levels equal treatment but deep inside sometimes specially when it comes to marriage it where things kinda get difference :D

Jeff
24-08-06, 07:00 AM
"balooshi,3arabi/zingbari,lawati"

I guess that "balooshi" is the same a Baluchi or Baluch, the non-Arab people that live in Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan. In Baluchistan, as they say. Our distant cousins: their language is related to English!

But is "3arabi" the same as "zingbari"? Is "3arabi" the same as "Arab"? What is it?

And what is "lawati"?

And what about the people in Dhofar? How do ordinary Muscatis think about them?

NicoBambi
24-08-06, 07:11 AM
I always thought of france as being an extremely tolerant place
same here :D

Jeff
24-08-06, 07:12 AM
Wikipedia says you have a lot of "Swahilis"--from Africa, I guess? The Zanzibar connection?

And you have 3 million people and almost 600, 000 foreigners included?

And the Arabs only came to Oman in the year 632, before that you all were Persians?

And the Portuguese ruled Muscat for 150 years?

I thought I knew something about Oman. I was proud I knew that frankincense came from green Dhofar, and what Musandam was, and how you used to be called 'Muscat and Oman' and had a pure red flag, and the Sultan was a Gilbert and Sullivan fan. But I see I am a baby in diapers and I know nothing...

Jeff
24-08-06, 07:20 AM
Okay, I see lawatis are shia, like Ajams and Bahara (now I have to find out who in the world THEY are and what is the difference...)

But I still have to find out what dinbats or zingbars are... Ohhhhhhh... I think I can GUESS... zingbar = zanzibar = swahili speakers, dark Africans or mixed race who came from Zanzibar.

Okay, so Baluchis (like in Pakistan), Lawatis (a Shia tribe), and Zingbars (Zanzibaris; black Africans or mixed people from the days when Oman ruled Zanzibar). Am I right?

So, how did I do on my open book examination?

But I still have to figure out what Ajams and Bahara are. Sigh....

Anybody know who the Amish are? Or the Mormons? ;-)

$w€€ŧ¥
24-08-06, 07:38 AM
I think so far you are doing a good job regarding history:)
all these tribed now are gathered from long time ago and live in one country and nationality...it is oman :3mani: having many tribes i guess is what makes oman special and less racists than others :flag:

Jeff
24-08-06, 08:05 AM
Thank you, $w€€ŧ¥ , that is a $w€€ŧ answer!

I may not know all the tribes, but I DO know that Omanis are special! ;-)

Fdaitny
24-08-06, 10:40 AM
Jeff, I think Ajam are Persians.. :os If I'm not mistaken.

Anyways, from what I've seen between the countries I've been to/lived in, I still have no idea if Oman is the most racist country, but I know it has racism in it. I came back with an open mind, and like fatamooo,
I know that I'm not a racist, although living in Oman for so long has taught me the habit of identifying someone first with their background, and second with themselves.

Yup! That's me now! Except I haven't lived here as long as she has..

Cute_Ting
24-08-06, 12:14 PM
...I Think Everyone is Racist...Like we all hate a lil something About a race Or Country or even Culture...& for me if u were to call me racist About any Person or ppl or anything it would Be Chinese they Bother me, Not Cambodian or Korean But CHINESE lol **Scoff**

NaBHaN
24-08-06, 01:02 PM
I can answer this by saying that there are racists in every country and you only feel that oman is the most racist because you live in it and you whitness it first hand. I am positive it's the same if not more in many other countries. I've been in jordan for 3 years now and It's the same over here when it comes to marriage..various tribes or families refuse others and they definitely don't like black people (actually since i've been here i've only seen a handful of black people in the whole country :os)..really weird.

Arabian Princess
24-08-06, 01:59 PM
I dont think Oman is raciest at all, we tolerate each other quite well .. most people have friends from different tribes, and origions ..

but, when marraige comes more complexity comes .. and I think thats a bit understandable .. with marraige, its not only a friend meeting a friend, its a life time commitment and people are quite skeptical of how different races and origions will live togther.

Jeff,

This is how I will mark you:

Lawati: a Shia tribe in Oman

Zanzibari: its Omanis who went to zanzibar some time back. Some people mixed with african blood, others dont. they still hold thier origional tribe.

Ajam: a tribe, origionaly perisian (correct me if I am wrong) also Shia

Baharna: another tribe, also Shia

I think you got 8/10 .. good :D

Thug4Life
24-08-06, 02:01 PM
Personaly am Omani...Personaly Though sometimes I tease my baluchi friend BUT
Am not a rascist!

I have friends whom are Omanies from different Backgrounds (baluchi/lawati/ajmi...etc etc)...and I dont treat them in any kind of discrimination!!! and I wont mind any of them to be bound to my family in the future if he/she has the qualities sets I have in my mind completed...

SO
Nope...am Omani and am Not racist!...generalization is NOT good
if you want to generalize...based on a scientific approach would be appreicated...
conduct a Poll on a wide range of the population and see the result...accordingly YOU can judge if OMANIES are the MOST racists in the World or No ;) (compare with other countries) Otherwise....you are simply a prejudice!! which can be considered a shame!

fatamooo
24-08-06, 02:19 PM
Persians lived in Oman before Arabs?!! I highly doubt that - maybe they conquered it or something, but I believe Oman has always been Arab land before, but it was probably deserted before the Sad Ma'rib incident.
Baloosh = from Baluchistan
Lawatia = from Hyderabad (as far as I know, lawatia are probably the most difficult for me to understand :p)
Baharna = from Bahrain
Zingbari = from Zanzibar (Swahili)
Ajam = from Iran - I think only from Iran, but the word ajam just means Not Arab so...

nezitiC
24-08-06, 02:33 PM
I think this topic has been discussed many times, meanwhile another thread (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40998) - and others [1 (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37436&highlight=Racism)][2 (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35265&highlight=Racism)][3 (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31902&highlight=Racism)][4 (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31249&highlight=Racism)][5 (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29763)] - is being discussed under almost the same field. Therefore, I change my opinion and say that "All omanis are feminists".

Ask the expert 5alfanooh about this.

fatamooo
24-08-06, 02:37 PM
Lol that's impossible :p

ScarHead (Muhu)
24-08-06, 03:02 PM
well ,,, in my opinion ,, i dont see tht omani's r tht racists!!! deeply in their heart ,, u wont find that attitude...

the problem is some fellas dnt understand ,, they think that zingbari omani's have pure zanzibar blood ,, its not true though ,,, as I know ,, our old parents moved to zanzibar from oman ,, then they came back to their own country .. which makes them OMANI's ....

and i totaly agreee tht when marraige comes more complexity comes, but not whith arab omani's and zingibari's (( as they r know :S ))

fatamooo
24-08-06, 03:25 PM
Yes but some Omanis are actually from Zanzibar, and came to Oman during the close alliance between Oman and Zanzibar... Some are actually omani and some aren't

ScarHead (Muhu)
24-08-06, 03:27 PM
but in the end ,, they r OMANI's as u said

ToomuchaT
24-08-06, 04:45 PM
.. what is the point of such threads?? :hmm: *apart from sedition*

Sleyum
26-08-06, 10:25 AM
short History

Zanzibar the name have been derived from the Arabic Zayn Zal Barr, meaning Fair is this land. The island was later controlled by Portugal for a period starting in 1503.

In 1698 Zanzibar became part of the overseas holdings of Oman, falling under the control of the Sultan of Oman. On April 6, 1861, following a struggle over the accession to the position of Sultan of Oman,

Zanzibar and Oman were divided into two separate principalities. Sayyid Majid bin Said Al-Busaid (1834/5-1870), son of Said bin Sultan, Sultan of Muscat and Oman, became Sultan of Zanzibar, while his brother Turki bin Said, Sultan of Muscat and Oman (1832-1888) became Sultan of Oman.

During this period, the Sultan of Zanzibar also controlled a substantial portion of the east African coast, known as Zanj, including Mombasa, which was taken from Oman in 1840 and remained part of the state of Zanzibar until 1963 when it was ceded to the newly independent state of Kenya.

Now you can see Zanzibar was of Oman Colony, people you should be proud of your history atleast you had a colony to Rule..:) And the founding father of the current Royal Family Sayyid Said bin Sultan, strategically controlled the Strait of Hormuz and places on the northern Gulf, but it was to Africa that he directed his greatest ambitions. From 1829 he gradually extended Omani influence over the East African coast, making Zanzibar his second capital and later Moved permanantly to Zanzibar and ruled Both oman and Zanzibar... Until He died in Zanzibar..

Meticulousness
26-08-06, 10:56 AM
Yes they are, just look around :)

ChiefColombo
27-08-06, 02:50 PM
Hi all,

i think that everyone is getting lost in the mixx here. We all need to sit back and think about this a little. There is a difference between racial discrimination and class discrimination. I think that we have another kind of discrimination here in oman, which has nothing to do with class or race. Its work discrimination.

Yes yes, it all depends, what work you are doing, and because of that people are treated in certain ways. You can see this in everyday life, at offices and coffee shops etc.

So i think that we need to all sit back and take a look around and then respond in kind, on this topic.

I am sorry if i have offended anyone by saying this, but i really didn't mean to. I am only giving my opinion of the situation.

Sleyum
27-08-06, 04:34 PM
We have many discriminations here in Oman

- Title/Class
- Wealthy
- tribe
- Work
- Residential
- body color
- Apprearence
- Religious Sectors
-

All the Above are part of day to day life....

And what Counts If you are Rich even if you are from unknown planet You will get what You want.... Money plays big role nowadays in our society...:cool:

Superbia
27-08-06, 09:46 PM
actually Ive been to france once and I guess it is ONE of the most racist country .. add some other countries to that :D .. no offence after all Im not talking about all french people .. I have some really nice french freinds :blush:

i totaly agree wid u there .. i was in france this summer n i felt like an alien on earth coz i was wearing the scarf on my head like in the air-port or the subway every1 wud just stare :angry:

Scottish Gal
28-08-06, 01:37 AM
I think 53% of Arabs are racist.

Arabs are either really really nice or really really not nice.

France has lost the plot

Jackson5
28-08-06, 01:52 AM
For sure they are. In my point of view i think if we the parernts will stop those action the kids will stop too and gradually the problem will disappear

Scottish Gal
28-08-06, 02:02 AM
hear hear jackson5!

Sleyum
28-08-06, 03:44 PM
For sure they are. In my point of view i think if we the parernts will stop those action the kids will stop too and gradually the problem will disappear

Ofcourse they will disappear One day.... Its a matter of time when all the Old uneducated parents dissapears/dead.... Then New Educated generation will have no time with Kind of disease....:)

Nella
03-09-06, 11:25 AM
Racists are everywhere...but we do have ((some)) over-racist ppl here :hehe:

as Jackson5 said..it's the way they're brought up..it's hard to break the habit later on..so it's better to raise your kids to respect all ppl from all backgrounds and colors...

Valentina
03-09-06, 12:11 PM
i actually agree with nella, cause there isn't a place in the world, where there isn't any racisam.

BliNd_MelOn
03-09-06, 10:16 PM
It shocked me to actually hear it from some foreign folks who have lived here all their lives. They actually said, Omanis are one of the most racist nations!

I was like omg.. what a coincidence, after reading this, I found out alot of people think so.. they explain by saying how Omanis discriminate their own kind, whatever the background was.

weird..

ToomuchaT
04-09-06, 04:36 PM
.. if anyone thinks that Omanies are racists, them my advice for him/er not to leave the country!!

CupCake
05-09-06, 02:26 PM
I think that every country and race has its prejudices against other races and countries....

Even if I am a muslimah, I am treated like a second class person because I am not of Arab origin when I am in Arab countries.

At the end of the day I say... why feel like a second class person.... Allah (SWA) will punish people for their ignorance and prejudice and their arrogance.

If a foreigner comes to my country, its the same.... the citizens will act superior to them because they are on their home ground.

But as a muslim you should treat your fellow muslim with respect and welcome them even if they are black, white, indian, malaysian, phillipino, american, swedish etc..... they are muslim.

Rossonero
05-09-06, 03:15 PM
Why Omani's? Common in every nation there are racists!

Genius
01-03-07, 05:17 PM
*me* says that this topic gona turn messy ... " reading and waiting "

amo_l_oman
01-03-07, 05:50 PM
yes after 5 months indeed it will :rolleyes:

Pygmalion
08-03-07, 09:04 AM
Listen
Racism is every where in the world! No exclusion!
Calling Oman the most racist means you either have no clue what the other countries mean or you do not see very well.
Oman is better than many other places. It is the society that builds the notion or the low race. Example: Being Bedouin in Saudi Arabia is a matter of pride but it is never something someone can be proud of in Oman. Although, all Bedouins in lifestyle, advantages and disadvantages in both countries are just the same.

So please do not make big deal of the issue. One day I was setting with my friend talking about this issue, he said we do have races in Oman just like there are in America. He made a perfect match in so many characters between races in Oman and those in the USA by matching the notion each race is known of. I do not think it is appropriate to post his theory here but racism is everywhere. My tribe being a very Omani one, I was matched with the redneck, which I don’t like but each and all of you fit somewhere you do not like either!

Superbia
08-03-07, 01:22 PM
There is prejiduce and racism everywhere and that's something we can't change. As for Oman yes there are two obvious racism taking place :

1- Indians

2- Also, towards what type of omanii are you (zanzi-bloosh-lawatiiya)

This is just the way it is and nothing can be done about it. As for me i'm totally against it !

Black Lolly
08-03-07, 01:41 PM
The MOST racist country?! Where are YOU living?!
No I don't think we're racist...

Superbia
08-03-07, 01:43 PM
^^^ come on there is lots of racism going on here and i mean ALOT , be a bit more realistic-

yasirb51
08-03-07, 01:52 PM
not all of them but alot of them are
the same as any other country

Rossonero
08-03-07, 03:37 PM
I think we might be racists in the tribal issue. So what? We are humans anyways..we are bound to be racists!!!!

Solafa
08-03-07, 06:49 PM
.. if anyone thinks that Omanies are racists, them my advice for him/er not to leave the country!!

Sallam bro,

Did you mean to leave the country and live somewhere else or not to leave the country and stay in it?

Superbia
08-03-07, 06:52 PM
^^ i think his point is that there are conuntries that are much worse than Oman about racism.

Solafa
08-03-07, 06:56 PM
We have many discriminations here in Oman

- Title/Class
- Wealthy
- tribe
- Work
- Residential
- body color
- Apprearence
- Religious Sectors
-

All the Above are part of day to day life....

And what Counts If you are Rich even if you are from unknown planet You will get what You want.... Money plays big role nowadays in our society...:cool:

Sallam,

Oman is not the racist country but then it has plenty of discriminations in all sorts. I agree with Sleyum's list and his last paragraph.

If you know the big heads in the society then every thing will go smooth and fast in your life, and if you don't then you better practice on being patince to get what you want to get and fight over it.

As others said, its not only in Oman its every where in this world and at any point you are located there is always some differnces, even within people from the same blood and same family.


But any way, Whats so new about this? NOTHING, it's just some are just opening their eyes to realise that there is something in the air and they just noticed it! Where such thing had been taking place over a thousand years with the Black, white, Red, short, tall, religious, non-religious, family tribes, profissions.....etc

Again as some people here said, its just a matter of time and this thing will get under control, it won't fade but it will be issueless than now.

CHILL OUT, we are all human and well all are created from MUD.:yes:

BrAiKi
08-03-07, 07:42 PM
racism still exists in oman and it really hurts when I hear of stories of 2 lovers who can't get married because of the differance in their tribal level.. A dhofari wouldn't let his daughter to get married to a person from muscat, a baluch wouldn't marry from zanzibaris, and many many examples. However, people are getting more "educated" nowadays and "open" and don't mind such marriages, and that is a good thing!

Jeff
08-03-07, 07:59 PM
^^

Did you ever read Dr. Seuss' childrens' book about the Star-bellied Sneeches and the Plain-bellied Sneeches?

Rossonero
08-03-07, 08:56 PM
Racism is everywhere, but I think it has a lower rate in Oman. Come to the UK, more types of racism due to the number of nationalities here and I have noticed that, even in lectures.

Another example, USA many people racially abuse each other, I've heard that New York has banned the "N" word which is used to call african-americans.

BrAiKi
08-03-07, 11:31 PM
^^

Did you ever read Dr. Seuss' childrens' book about the Star-bellied Sneeches and the Plain-bellied Sneeches?


nope, what does it say ?!

planEt
08-03-07, 11:34 PM
^^

Did you ever read Dr. Seuss' childrens' book about the Star-bellied Sneeches and the Plain-bellied Sneeches?


Ah, things are getting much clearer now.

Is it a new favorite of yours ?

LosT_SouL
09-03-07, 12:22 AM
I don't think racism will be controlled ever .. Everywhere you go, you
will find it .. An educational figures in the societies also can spread
it over and affect the youth minds,..
Today on UK news a commander was ask to resign after his words
and comment which are racist in separate times ..

Thalia
09-03-07, 12:53 AM
Racism is everywhere, but I think it has a lower rate in Oman. Come to the UK, more types of racism due to the number of nationalities here and I have noticed that, even in lectures.

Another example, USA many people racially abuse each other, I've heard that New York has banned the "N" word which is used to call african-americans.
The N word is a derogatory term. Like calling a disabled person a 'retard'.

What baffles me is why black people can say it. :rolleyes:

The blacks of America have had a very bad history and they have every right to enjoy equal rights. What gets me is that they are milking the system for all it's worth. Now white people can't look at a black man for more than 0.327 seconds because it will pick a fight. "What you looking at? Is it because I am black?" or, a black guy will get a job over a white guy because of a minority quota. It's still racism, just reversed now.

I've started to think that people who are different and unnaccpeting of other different people should stay on their own continent or countries. It would solve the whole racial problem, and many others.

Jihad4Truth
09-03-07, 01:32 AM
Race is often confused with culture.

The culture of one community maybe erroneouly perceived as a racial quality.

We have all heard someone say "that is the way that those people are". But what are they saying?

Somebody may say white people are bad dancers. And that may appear true looking at the way some white people dance, but it is not a racial thing it is a cultural thing.

Jihad4Truth
09-03-07, 01:44 AM
The N word is a derogatory term. Like calling a disabled person a 'retard'.

What baffles me is why black people can say it. :rolleyes: .


It's a bad attitude due to animosity and resentment. It's rather juvenile. I understand in one sense because there is someting to be angry about.

But everyone can feel that they have been wronged by the world. And when one directs that anger at everyone else in the world, they really are no better in the end.

Having a F**k You attitude, while appealing to ones ego and friends, does not win over the community at large.

I applaud people like Bill Cosby who publicly denounce the negligent use of a derogatory term.

They only way to get true respect is to act respectable.

It's a hard lesson to learn in life.

HITMAN
09-03-07, 01:45 AM
I've heard that New York has banned the "N" word which is used to call african-americans.

What will happen if a man says I am from Montenegro?

Regarding racism, yes it does exist in Oman like anywhere else, but I am not sure to what extent

Tiny Heart
09-03-07, 01:54 AM
Okay, I see lawatis are shia, like Ajams and Bahara (now I have to find out who in the world THEY are and what is the difference...)

But I still have to find out what dinbats or zingbars are... Ohhhhhhh... I think I can GUESS... zingbar = zanzibar = swahili speakers, dark Africans or mixed race who came from Zanzibar.

Okay, so Baluchis (like in Pakistan), Lawatis (a Shia tribe), and Zingbars (Zanzibaris; black Africans or mixed people from the days when Oman ruled Zanzibar). Am I right?

So, how did I do on my open book examination?

But I still have to figure out what Ajams and Bahara are. Sigh....

Anybody know who the Amish are? Or the Mormons? ;-)

Sometimes I wonder if U R realy American or U R an Omani dude :XD:
No offence my dear..... but most Americans I met, no zero bout Arabs & the Arab world.... but U? ma sha Allah, U know alot :rolleyes:

Rossonero
09-03-07, 02:01 AM
Sometimes I wonder if U R realy American or U R an Omani dude :XD:
No offence my dear..... but most Americans I met, no zero bout Arabs & the Arab world.... but U? ma sha Allah, U know alot :rolleyes:

PPl in uk : Where are you from?
Me : Oman
PPl in Uk: oh ok
Me: You know where that is?
Ppl in UK : umm no..
Me : Near Dubaai
Ppl in Uk : oh yes dubaaai..ya dubaaai...

ToomuchaT
09-03-07, 04:03 AM
PPl in uk : Where are you from?
Me : Oman
PPl in Uk: oh ok
Me: You know where that is?
Ppl in UK : umm no..
Me : Near Dubaai
Ppl in Uk : oh yes dubaaai..ya dubaaai...


LOL.. very true!!


.. omanies r no racists .. they r much superior than that word.. u might find some tiny scattered black spots but the white colour is coverin them.

LosT_SouL
09-03-07, 04:38 AM
PPl in uk : Where are you from?
Me : Oman
PPl in Uk: oh ok
Me: You know where that is?
Ppl in UK : umm no..
Me : Near Dubaai
Ppl in Uk : oh yes dubaaai..ya dubaaai...

They know dubai but they do not know the country name ..:XD:

Dark Project
09-03-07, 12:34 PM
Reading the thread which Rossonero attached and what 5alfanooh has stated . I can only say one thing .. Make yourself better and to all who pin point to People who came from Zanzibar or Baluchis or Lawati or the ones who are nationalized or Who claim that they are pure Arabs this or that...Get a life and grow up since we are all Omani .. What is so special about those who boast ?? What the hell are they trying to prove .. I tell you all of you Omanis with all your different backgrounds EDUCATE yourselves and be a better nation have a vision and have a goal for a better Oman to live and great future for our generation .. Go and preach this instead of you boast that you are a Pure Arab who is uneducated working in a petrol station earning 120/- O.R a month or a Buluchi who wants to prove that they belong and they have all the system and loyal and they work in super market as cashier .. or Lawati who close themselves and act as if their life rotates in Sur Al Lawati and dont want to give a helping hand to their OMANI brothers and sisters citizen .

Dont get me wrong when I mock the jobs which I mention above ,,, But with education we will thrive and be a better nation and live to love one another and cast away the so called different people and racism in Oman . Come on I love Zanjbaries I love Baluchi's I Love lawati I love Dhofari I love any one who has an OMANI PASSPORT AND LIVE IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY OMAAAAN . Thats what I wanted to say .

Mesmie
09-03-07, 02:58 PM
Yes Omanis are very much so racist especially when it comes to tribes and sects. A Zanzi marrying a Lawati, or a Blushi marrying a Zanzi for that matter...Omanis just don't like to think outside the box. They only get married to their cousins and people from the same tribe or sect. And that is very racist in my opinion.

Rossonero
09-03-07, 03:22 PM
Yes Omanis are very much so racist especially when it comes to tribes and sects. A Zanzi marrying a Lawati, or a Blushi marrying a Zanzi for that matter...Omanis just don't like to think outside the box. They only get married to their cousins and people from the same tribe or sect. And that is very racist in my opinion.

I would agree with you if you said this 10-20 years ago, but now things changed.

Mesmie
09-03-07, 03:27 PM
No trust me, things are still the same peaple refuse to adapt changes. I'm talking out of experience here

Rossonero
09-03-07, 03:35 PM
No trust me, things are still the same peaple refuse to adapt changes. I'm talking out of experience here

It's not everyone..

Desert_Sloath
09-03-07, 08:59 PM
in jordan they definitely don't like black people (actually since i've been here i've only seen a handful of black people in the whole country :os)..really weird.






NaB, now that is really scarring. So, there is no chance for me to put my dirty foot on their sacred land :mmhmm:

As Jordan is known of accommodating many religions it would be interesting to learn which of these hate the Blacks so that I prepare myself which side to run to for :help: when am accidentaly in Jordan.

Is it because of color ? ! Am asking this because even blacks sometimes kill blacks. Like Ruwanda and like Somalia and Sudan and West Africa as white kills white like Northern Ireland where a Catholic won't marry a Protestant or a Serbian killing a non-Serbian. Even Sirilanka such things do happen.

Aaakh where to run to ?



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Dark Project
09-03-07, 09:35 PM
But Not only Jordan ! its all Bilad Al Sham dont like not only blacks any race but white ...

Charm
10-03-07, 09:41 AM
Old habites die hard!

It's true^^^

Omanis have this look towards you if you come from a mixed family! Am living that since I was young, got used to it and I don't give a stuff about people who think like that because it's not thier fault it's the mama and baba's fault that they judge people like that! So it's up to you how to deal with it and to answer the question, yes it's true! Some Omanis are raciest and after all they are all human beings :cute:

Genius
10-03-07, 01:21 PM
Asking "Are omanis racists??” is like asking...

A-"Do Omani people get angry?"
B-”Do Omani get greedy?? "

And the list goes on..................

My point is that you cant ask the question in a way that its an exception .There is no country in the world is "Racist free".

Now if you are trying to major the % of racism around the globe! I think it’s very impossible... its like you are trying to found out which country is more greedy or so.

I think the question form should be ask as “Do you still have gender racism" or " do you still got skin racism?"

But I never agree with this question :)

Reese
10-03-07, 08:43 PM
Asking "Are omanis racists??” is like asking...

A-"Do Omani people get angry?"
B-”Do Omani get greedy?? "

And the list goes on..................

My point is that you cant ask the question in a way that its an exception .There is no country in the world is "Racist free".

Now if you are trying to major the % of racism around the globe! I think it’s very impossible... its like you are trying to found out which country is more greedy or so.

I think the question form should be ask as “Do you still have gender racism" or " do you still got skin racism?"

But I never agree with this question :)

The question should be this: Who is not racist? And why do you think you are not?

LosT_SouL
10-03-07, 09:41 PM
I think we are raised with the tribe word .. Where someone is your servant
and you can not marry from those and you can not be friends with these
boys because they are under our word .. They work for us so WE are
better thatn them ,,
You can not get rid off something is there for ages ..

Sleyum
11-03-07, 03:30 PM
I think we are raised with the tribe word .. Where someone is your servant
and you can not marry from those and you can not be friends with these
boys because they are under our word .. They work for us so WE are
better thatn them ,,
You can not get rid off something is there for ages ..

I guess you have raised a very good Point...
People they become enslaved just simply because they were poor and depends on big tribes they did not have much choice in those dark days

and with Bright age of 21st centuries Those who were Sheikh in old days Now they have becomes slaves in this working environment it doesnt matter from which tribe you are coming from, if you report to either to your manager or supervisor or foreman then you receive orders from him or her to do what he wanted then to me You are A Slave of your boss... In short no one is better than others we are all Slaves as far we do report to our Bosses...

iamnasra
11-03-07, 06:28 PM
Reading the thread which Rossonero attached and what 5alfanooh has stated . I can only say one thing .. Make yourself better and to all who pin point to People who came from Zanzibar or Baluchis or Lawati or the ones who are nationalized or Who claim that they are pure Arabs this or that...Get a life and grow up since we are all Omani .. What is so special about those who boast ?? What the hell are they trying to prove .. I tell you all of you Omanis with all your different backgrounds EDUCATE yourselves and be a better nation have a vision and have a goal for a better Oman to live and great future for our generation .. Go and preach this instead of you boast that you are a Pure Arab who is uneducated working in a petrol station earning 120/- O.R a month or a Buluchi who wants to prove that they belong and they have all the system and loyal and they work in super market as cashier .. or Lawati who close themselves and act as if their life rotates in Sur Al Lawati and dont want to give a helping hand to their OMANI brothers and sisters citizen .

Dont get me wrong when I mock the jobs which I mention above ,,, But with education we will thrive and be a better nation and live to love one another and cast away the so called different people and racism in Oman . Come on I love Zanjbaries I love Baluchi's I Love lawati I love Dhofari I love any one who has an OMANI PASSPORT AND LIVE IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY OMAAAAN . Thats what I wanted to say .

Thanks for pointing out, I always tell my friends that our country is so colorful because we are mixed nation, we poured our differences in one pot for the love of our country....So if its Lawati, Zanzibari, Bulushi we are as Omanies are an example to other countries. Being mixed half Omani and half Tanzanian. I use to tell everyone that Im half but when ever I say, I have been told by strangers, it does not matter, if any your mother or father is one of them Omani, you are the daughter of this country. Now these tribs are mixing up, so all coming in one form of tribe being Omani.

DP so you dont love those Omani with no passports??? (LOL)

LosT_SouL
11-03-07, 11:13 PM
Sleyum .. I may agree with your opinion but the work and what your boss ask you to do is one of the life manners..
But if you get a JOB because you are from the A KNOWN TRIBE not because you DESERVE the job.. This could be more slavery @ work. Also you may not get the promotion because your father knows nobody with KNOWN NAME.
This is what I call it racism @ work.
But Can you imagine that the TRIBE issue now has reached a way where the shiekhs sons have their own football pitch where the common guys can not play there with a free elctricity to light it @ night ,however the others have to pay for it ..

Dark Project
12-03-07, 01:36 AM
Thanks for pointing out, I always tell my friends that our country is so colorful because we are mixed nation, we poured our differences in one pot for the love of our country....So if its Lawati, Zanzibari, Bulushi we are as Omanies are an example to other countries. Being mixed half Omani and half Tanzanian. I use to tell everyone that Im half but when ever I say, I have been told by strangers, it does not matter, if any your mother or father is one of them Omani, you are the daughter of this country. Now these tribs are mixing up, so all coming in one form of tribe being Omani.

DP so you dont love those Omani with no passports??? (LOL)

Honest to God ... I curse who came up with the Passport idea . We are alll from Adam and Eve and we are all brothers and sisters . What happen to the good old days where people could travel and live anywhere they want ... The earth is ours every one :) live anywhere ...