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What does the Holy Bible say about the inheritance of females?
Do the females inherit if they have brothers?
Or she can inherit only if she does not have male siblings?
does the bible contain rules about the inheritance??
will any1 answer the questions? :duh:
nezitiC
26-08-06, 10:42 PM
Well According to the Holy Bible, if a father died left One Million Dollars and left one son, two daughters, and a widow. In this case, the son would get everything, and the rest nothing.
Salam
Well According to the Holy Bible, if a father died left One Million Dollars and left one son, two daughters, and a widow. In this case, the son would get everything, and the rest nothing.
Salam
That is very unfair to the females
nezitiC
26-08-06, 11:01 PM
Yes true, but I am not a female, so I am ok with it. :|
Any other opinions regarding this issue?
if there were any inheritance laws I think they would be in the OT in the Torah, I don't think the NT has such laws, since the early Christians followed the laws that were taught to them by the early church
MsKnuckles
03-03-07, 06:50 PM
but now they inherit, don't they?
yep they, but I guess the current law has nothing to do with the religion :no:
yep they, but I guess the current law has nothing to do with the religion :no:Yes the biblical law of inheritance for women was unfair to women same as quranic law of inheritance.
Man corrected that flaw in gods law.
good to know your point of view, we still use the quraanic laws of inheritance here in oman :D
we still use the quraanic laws of inheritance here in oman
And it is easy to see why you still use the flawwed inheritance law.
Yes true, but I am not a female, so I am ok with it. :|
Christianity is unfair to women when it comes to inheritance
lol old jack, its a joke, buddy
your view about your own religion makes ignore that statement :D
Christianity is unfair to women when it comes to inheritanceSure it was. Thank man ... not god that has been corrected.
Who corrected what exactly?
Threadlike
03-03-07, 10:06 PM
Sorry to interrupt...
What is the 'flaw' in the Qura'anic law again?
If it was any different than it currently is, it would be highly unfair.
In this day and age, both men and women go out and do the bread winning for the family. Both are responsible equally for the family's finances. If my father died, and I got less than my brothers, it would be very unfair taking the current situation that society holds nowadays.
After all, I am equally his child. Whatever sex I am.
Sorry to interrupt...
What is the 'flaw' in the Qura'anic law again?You're a smart young man. You will figuire it out someday.
Pygmalion
04-03-07, 02:33 AM
It is so immature and moronic that some people are so fond of posting opinions while they are bankrupt of any knowledge to defend what they think!
Grow up guys!
I don't know what the female inheritance scheme in the Old Testament was or is. I don't know law Jews use today.
But Braiki's comment that Christianity's current law has nothing to do with religion is not quite right.
We've had these discussions about the Old Testament in Christianity before. The MORAL law, which is eternal and unchanging, remains. But we are relieved from following all the regulations of the Old Law, according to Scripture. Their saving value has been accomplished and as St. Paul says, when reality arrives, shadows pass away. That's what the Bible says in the New Testament.
So, Christianity has no absolute rule concerning female inheritance except the law of love and the sense of justice.
In understanding Christianity, you can't ask, "What is the Law"? You have to ask, "Is there a Law"? and most of the time the answer will be: No. If you don't remember this point, you won't understand us.
This may help with understanding modern Jewish inheritance law. I think the daughters effectively control a portion of the father's money until they marry, even though it isn't technically "theirs."
Of course, again, these laws do not apply to Christians.
# If a man dies, his possessions are divided by his sons. His wife can either take her Ketubah or can live off her husband's estate for as long as she wishes.
# If there is a firstborn son, he receives a double portion.
# The daughters are supported off their father's estate until they get married.
# Each daughter receives a dowry from the father's estate.
# If there aren't any sons, the estate passes to the daughters.
# If a woman dies, her husband inherits all her possessions.
# If she has no husband, her sons (or daughters, if there aren't any sons) inherit her possessions.
# If one doesn't have any children (or grand-children) the estate goes to the deceased's father.
# If the deceased doesn't have a father, the estate goes to the deceased's brothers (or sisters, if there aren't any brothers), or, if they are no longer alive, their descendants.
http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=282&o=2398
monotheism
04-03-07, 06:07 PM
1 answer to the original question: In the Torah it talks about inheritance with regard to inheriting the land of Israel. The land was divided among the tribes. The tribal lineage was determined by the man. So if a man inherited a certain area of land, it would stay in the tribe. If a woman would have inherited it, it would have been tranferred to her husband's tribe. This is why the inheritance was generally restricted to the men.
Jeff, I said "the current law has nothing to do the religion" as in the current law from the government doesn't take religious laws into consideration (and this applies to most countries of all religions). However, I have mentioned above that if there were inhertitance laws, they would be from the book of laws in the OT :D
Thanx for your inputs Jeff & mono
Threadlike
04-03-07, 10:40 PM
So the Bible has absoloutely no association with governmental, political systems or regulations right?
^^^
Today, most Western governments are secular, but not all are completely so. And in the past, many governments have tried to follow Christian or Christian-derived principles.
The Bible can be an inspiration for governmental systems, but especially the New Testament is not about forming a state. As Christ said, "My Kingdom is not of this world." Unlike Islam and Judaism, Christianity is not a system of sacred laws for ruling people.
^^^
Today, most Western governments are secular, but not all are completely so. And in the past, many governments have tried to follow Christian or Christian-derived principles.
The Bible can be an inspiration for governmental systems, but especially the New Testament is not about forming a state. As Christ said, "My Kingdom is not of this world." Unlike Islam and Judaism, Christianity is not a system of sacred laws for ruling people.
Was gonna say that.. Laws are based on Christian principles. Most, if not all of the things that are considered unlawful are also wrong according to Christianity.
Threadlike
05-03-07, 09:49 PM
But doesn't this point...
If the Bible had unfair laws toward female inheritance...
Doesn't that make the Bible flawed and Christianity too? Juuuust asking :p
But doesn't this point...
If the Bible had unfair laws toward female inheritance...
Doesn't that make the Bible flawed and Christianity too? Juuuust asking :p
No, although I don;t have any authority on the subject, from Jeff's and mono's posts I understood that the laws applied to those times. And them days they were in the best interest of the family.
Nowadays, unlike then, if a woman inherits, her husband has no part of that inheritance. What is made and bought during the marriage becomes the property of both partners. Inheritance is just hers. Before, it wasn't like that, as Monotheism explained.
If I am not mistaken, this and other religious laws are refered to as the Laws of Moses.
Correct me if I am wrong, jeff or mono.
Jeff, what about the laws in Vatican?
Pygmalion
06-03-07, 11:04 PM
Jeff, what about the laws in Vatican?
A very good question HITMAN, we would like to know about the law system in the Vatican City!
The Vatican? What laws in the Vatican?
The Vatican is about the size of a small park. Citizenship is a formality, no one is born there, no one really lives there except temporarily in connection with a job.
As far as criminal laws are concerned, Italian laws apply when the Holy See requests it and the Italian police and justice system enforce it by agreement with the Holy See. So for example, when Mehmet Ali Agca shot the Pope, Italian police were called in and prosecuted the crime and Agca was imprisoned in Italy. The crime was committed on Vatican soil, though, not Italian soil.
There is religious law which is called Canon Law and governs how the Church operates. But I'm not sure if that's what you are asking about. How you get excommunicated, what the rights of a priest are from his bishop, how many Masses a priest is allowed to say on a certain day, and things like that.
My point is not that there are no laws in Catholic countries. My point is that the religion is not ABOUT law, it is not law based. Our laws are practical judgments and we don't claim divine sanction for them in an absolute sense. We don't deny that laws are necessary to administer states. That's just not what the religion is ABOUT.
So, I'm not sure if I missed your point or you missed mine.
In Islam, the focus of the religion is about following divine commandments about one thing and another. You have to pray like this, so many times a day, if someone commits this kind of crime, there is this kind of punishment. And all this comes straight from Allah. This is what it means to be a Muslim. If you take away the laws from Islam, what is left?
Christianity is just not like that. There are some rules to follow, but they are not the heart of the religion and they are not absolute.
So for example, Muslims sometimes ask, Well, what is the Christian law about punishment for adultery? The answer is, Christianity teaches that adultery is wrong, but there is no Christian law about punishing adultery. And a Christian state might make any law about punishing adultery or no law, depending on what they thought was wise.
monotheism
24-03-07, 06:08 PM
No, although I don;t have any authority on the subject, from Jeff's and mono's posts I understood that the laws applied to those times. And them days they were in the best interest of the family.
Nowadays, unlike then, if a woman inherits, her husband has no part of that inheritance. What is made and bought during the marriage becomes the property of both partners. Inheritance is just hers. Before, it wasn't like that, as Monotheism explained.
If I am not mistaken, this and other religious laws are refered to as the Laws of Moses.
Correct me if I am wrong, jeff or mono.
No, it is still true today in Jewish law that the sons inherit and not the daughters, unless there are no sons--then the daughters inherit.
No, it is still true today in Jewish law that the sons inherit and not the daughters, unless there are no sons--then the daughters inherit.
Thank you monotheism
No, it is still true today in Jewish law that the sons inherit and not the daughters, unless there are no sons--then the daughters inherit.Well that is blatant discrimination of the female population. Similar to the Islamic inheritance laws.
No, it is still true today in Jewish law that the sons inherit and not the daughters, unless there are no sons--then the daughters inherit.
When I said "correct me if I am mistaken" I was refering to if they are called "The laws of Moses"..
These are "laws" that we (christians) do not enforce legally over the population, but other laws have taken their place, distributing wealth evenly, since along time, women have taken on the role of the co-bread winner of the family and equally manages the finances for herself and for her family if she is married.
I was not arguing whether or not Jews still use them today, because I obviously have absolutely no knowledge of Judaism apart from a few basics.
monotheism
25-03-07, 05:08 PM
Well that is blatant discrimination of the female population.
It's discrimination, granted, but fair discrimination, as it's for a solid reason. Perhaps not one that sits well with a person raised on western liberal thought, but a reason nonetheless. By the way, in many other areas, Jewish law discriminates in favour of women, so there's a balance. I can give you some examples, if you're interested.
When I said "correct me if I am mistaken" I was refering to if they are called "The laws of Moses"..
If you were asking for info. from a Christian perspective, then I can't help you.
I was asking if you (as a jew) and jeff (as a christian) refer to these laws as the 'Laws of Moses'. I've heard the term before, I know they are applied to some laws that we don't use anymore because countries have their own civil laws now, better applied to the changings of time, but wasn't sure whether the laws abour inheritance were one of these "laws of Moses". I'm familiar with the term, but not 100% knowledgable on what laws these are. Was wondering if Jews also called them the laws of Moses and (incase you don't) was asking Jeff if this such law is one of them...
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