The hymen is a tissue that lies at the vaginal opening and it is also known to the general society as a virginity. All girls have a hymen which can break thru any means of exercise or sports acted upon in her life. Insequently some societies stipulate that the prescence of the hymen/virginity actually reflects whether the woman has consequently performed sexual conducts in life. Would you judge a girls virginity by the basis of her hymen? & thruout the wide sex education recieved these days, many people are able to know how to perform the activity without needing to be totally experienced. Would such actions indicate that your partner has performed sexual actions before marriage?
Alot of traditions and myths placate that sexual pentration must result with blood which is not necessarily true in each case for each woman. If blood was a result to the sexual conduct would this ease alot of males?
To what level or indications would you precede to accept that ur partner is actually a virgin? Is virginity still important in todays societies? Do you wish to marry a virgin?

With this new World of technology and scientificaly....
Forget it About Virgin or results of Blood to prove the Originality of the lady that she was Clean... We all know that ladies can have Sex before marriage... and when she is about to get marriage to another poor Innocent Boy She will do all the simple operation to fix the damage done during her high days as play girl..... When she gets marriage she will look like a Brand New...:o

^^^^^ wt abt men ?!?!?!?! ... i bet more than 70% of the men r not virgins .. n how cud we prove that ?!?!?! .. if ur nt a virgin urself u dont hv the right 2 ask 4 a virgin partner !!!

Would you judge a girls virginity by the basis of her hymen?
ofcourse and if not , how can I judge it then?:think:

thruout the wide sex education recieved these days, many people are able to know how to perform the activity without needing to be totally experienced.
what do u mean by THE ACTIVITY ?:hmm:

Would such actions indicate that your partner has performed sexual actions before marriage?
maybe no but 90 % yes

Alot of traditions and myths placate that sexual pentration must result with blood which is not necessarily true in each case for each woman. If blood was a result to the sexual conduct would this ease alot of males?
sure

To what level or indications would you precede to accept that ur partner is actually a virgin?
still thnking abt it :think:

Is virginity still important in todays societies?
sure it is very important
Do you wish to marry a virgin?
u answer this one :angry:

^^^^^ wt abt men ?!?!?!?! ... i bet more than 70% of the men r not virgins .. n how cud we prove that ?!?!?! .. if ur nt a virgin urself u dont hv the right 2 ask 4 a virgin partner !!!
there huge difference between men virginity and women's!!!!
be carefull baby....every man have the right 4 a virgin partner:angry:

^^^^^ wt abt men ?!?!?!?! ... i bet more than 70% of the men r not virgins .. n how cud we prove that ?!?!?! .. if ur nt a virgin urself u dont hv the right 2 ask 4 a virgin partner !!!


I know... I do Understand that...
But Men's can not be measured.... and its easy to measure spoilt ladies!!
That's why unmarried Women should take every precaution while they are still Single...

With this new World of technology and scientificaly....
Forget it About Virgin or results of Blood to prove the Originality of the lady that she was Clean... We all know that ladies can have Sex before marriage... and when she is about to get marriage to another poor Innocent Boy She will do all the simple operation to fix the damage done during her high days as play girl..... When she gets marriage she will look like a Brand New...:o


Lol@you Very True im Agree with you in the view of points:mmhmm: :)

there huge difference between men virginity and women's!!!!
be carefull baby....every man have the right 4 a virgin partner:angry:

i so disagree with u ! .. if he is not a virgin he has absolutely NO right 2 demand for a virgin wife !

^^^^^ wt abt men ?!?!?!?! ... i bet more than 70% of the men r not virgins .. n how cud we prove that ?!?!?! .. if ur nt a virgin urself u dont hv the right 2 ask 4 a virgin partner !!!
i agree, and am virgin...and i can swear for that..:D
but no proof is to be found other than my words...:angel:

^^70% is abit high...i will say 50%..and i think still high..;)

^^^^ ill go for more than 70% .. get real ichigo !

who knows mayB technology will come up with sumthing to identify wheather a guy is virgin or non-virgin :)

these day's
ppl dont care about if the guy is a virgin or not
it's all about the girl :eh::eh:

n ofcourse i want him to be a virgin :p

there huge difference between men virginity and women's!!!!
be carefull baby....every man have the right 4 a virgin partner:angry:
There is no defference is the punishment !

and every virgin have the right to have a vergin man ! i mean who wants a Zaani ?? n who wants used parts !

i hate men who think it's ok to do whatvea they wanna do n when it comes to thier wives they dont trust them coz they did all their Sh*t b4 n think she did the same..

^^^^ ill go for more than 70% .. get real ichigo !

who knows mayB technology will come up with sumthing to identify wheather a guy is virgin or non-virgin :)
Am getting real in that....Guys are blaffing with it all the time but most of them did nothing, i know...

You hope so (for the technology)....:D :D :p :p :p

The way I look at it is that, what difference does it make? lol ! I wouldn't mind getting married to a non-virgin man if he was proven to be clean (pre-marital tests for AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases). I think that all concerns.

How mens Come virgin
offf nowadays guys no anyone of the are Virgin..

There is no defference is the punishment !

and every virgin have the right to have a vergin man ! i mean who wants a Zaani ?? n who wants used parts !

i hate men who think it's ok to do whatvea they wanna do n when it comes to thier wives they dont trust them coz they did all their Sh*t b4 n think she did the same..

i tottaly agreee :cute:

The hymen does not indicate anything . You only lose your virginity if you engage in sexual intercourse.

plus the hymen may break when u fall roughly for example from a bike or a hourse... or sometimes it's soo thin it breaks for carrying something eavy.. iv read this somehwere but i cnt recall the sourse..
the article i read also states that they r many types of hymens depending on the girl..

so that proofes nothing actully! so guys must look for a respectible relegious woman like what the hadeeth said (فإظفر بذات الدين تربت يداك) not the tiny thingi !

originally posted by nosa
plus the hymen may break when u fall roughly for example from a bike or a hourse... or sometimes it's soo thin it breaks for carrying something eavy.. iv read this somehwere but i cnt recall the sourse..
the article i read also states that they r many types of hymens depending on the girl..
so that proofes nothing actully! so guys must look for a respectible relegious woman like what the hadeeth said (فإظفر بذات الدين تربت يداك) not the tiny thingi !

agree

but that does not mean that you don't have to be careful?

and i have a question to the guyz:

would you rather marry a woman who lost her virginity without her knowing? like in the examples nosa mentioned or someone raped her..again (raped her) or would you rather marry a woman who had sexual intercourses b4 (willingly) and then replaced her hymen?

if you had to choose between the two of them which one would you pick?

don't gimme that neither cr** :mmhmm:

With this new World of technology and scientificaly....
Forget it About Virgin or results of Blood to prove the Originality of the lady that she was Clean... We all know that ladies can have Sex before marriage... and when she is about to get marriage to another poor Innocent Boy She will do all the simple operation to fix the damage done during her high days as play girl..... When she gets marriage she will look like a Brand New...:o

So ur indication is to cheat the system....Would you mind if ur wife cheated the system on u....i mean what a man doesnt know wont hurt....and it is only to preserve her past and start a new and fresh beginning with her loved one....I mean one, two, three or four of ur 4 wives might do it especially nowadays......:hehe:

Hymen is not a warranty seal of virginity, the individual can engage into other forms of sexual intercourses apart from just vaginal

And yes strenous exercises caused me to lose my virginity too :( I broke into tears that day :weep:

Hymen isn't the assurance of verginity.

Many girls can practice sexual before getting married without losing their hymen and even they can lose it and once she wana get married a small operation will fix everything ( how the hell they guy will know !! )

LOL @ hitman!!

Yeah, to be honest, I think a loooot of guys who demand that their wives be virgins, have already had sex themselves.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the condition in itself, but I think it's hypocritical of some man-*****s who ask for it. If a guy is a virgin, then he can be as picky as he wants, but if he's got a long list of one night stands and whatever, then I don't see what makes him think he should discriminate against a girl for doing the same thing he's done. They're what's wrong with men today.

But since we can't really tell what the men have or haven't done, it's all up to their 'word'... God help us :p

This topic can go on & on & on & on & on & on & on....
Man r selfish creature (not all)....
They would go & have sex with every tramp they find on their way, but when its time 2 get married, he would hunt 4 a fresh virgin chick.... If he finds out she is not, then she'd b doomed, but if she finds out he is not, its okay n she shall accept it....
Yet, this is not an excuse 4 any girl 2 take her virginity issue as something normal & she should take care of it by every means...

If a girl's hymen breaks it doesn't mean she had a shag lol! As some of you already mentioned, some exercies can lead to the breaking of the hymen for instance horse riding. Sadly in our societies nowadays, if a girl doesn't bleed during her first sexual intercourse with her hubby, then she's done it before. Haha like in those old black and white Egyption movies, the guys parents stand outstide their newly wed son's room while he's inside making love to his wife. Then once she bleeds he shows his parents a handkerchief covered with blood and his parents heave sighs of relief hahah I seriously laugh my guts out at this :D

Hymen is not a warranty seal of virginity, the individual can engage into other forms of sexual intercourses apart from just vaginal

And yes strenous exercises caused me to lose my virginity too :( I broke into tears that day :weep:


lol....What kind of exercises? U will need to warn the males that wish to protect their virginity...

I bet u broke into tears of joy.....:hyper:

i so disagree with u ! .. if he is not a virgin he has absolutely NO right 2 demand for a virgin wife !
all we asking here is proving. I mean how can u know a man is a virgin or not? for women , there is something 2 notice and it's a profe even if it's not always right.
be cooooooooool :)

I know a guy who wouldn't mind marrying a non-virgin girl if she proved that she changed ...
I find that weird lol

i agree with lym on this one

these day's
ppl dont care about if the guy is a virgin or not
it's all about the girl :eh::eh:

n ofcourse i want him to be a virgin :p

Face the realities its not easy to measure if the men is A virgin or not...
You Only need to take His Word that He is Virgin If that will be enough for you..:cool: Sure he Should Be Virgin as Far His Partner is Vargin too..:o

So ur indication is to cheat the system....Would you mind if ur wife cheated the system on u....i mean what a man doesnt know wont hurt....and it is only to preserve her past and start a new and fresh beginning with her loved one....I mean one, two, three or four of ur 4 wives might do it especially nowadays......:hehe:

Its Not my Indication cheat the system..... But I was trying to explain with all these High Technology around The Women who had Sexualy Before Marriage... prior to their Marriage to Proove that they are intact They will go for a Simple Operation so to cheat their Innocent Husband that they are still Virgin and it has been working...

As For ME I dont really Care the Past of who would be My 1st, 2nd 3rd and final Wive if they Had any play during their Single Time...:color: :D But They Need to Behave and be a proper Wives While with ME and their Old Black Files Should Be closed once and for all... (that's the Role of NOBLE Men like ME!!):cool: :angel:

What if SHE isn't a virgin? (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37358&highlight=virgin)
What if he's not a virgin? (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37335&highlight=virgin)
Would u marry a non-vergin?? (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26793&highlight=virgin)
Questions about none virgin male/females.. (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26880&highlight=virgin)
You are a virgin, but you don't bleed (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28506&highlight=virgin)
Virgin Olive Oil? (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25824&highlight=virgin) (oops..wait thats not the same thing!)

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My point is..this topic has been discussed a zillion times already..so you'll probably read my opinion in any one of those.

My point is..this topic has been discussed a zillion times already..so you'll probably read my opinion in any one of those.

Oooooffffffffffff
When I read this from Nabhan.... I thought waaw the guy is going to lock this thread as usually.... but I am glad he did not....:color: :) :hyper:

Well im sure if I had been on sabla since 2001 I would not have opened up this thread but Im new. So Im sorry NaBHaN............I guess you would have to expect it from new comers in this forum....:)

The guy i marry will definitley be a virgin....hell no i'm not gonna marry a man Wh0r3

...I DOnt know about any But I Played A LOT of Sports and at like age 10 i Got it in my private part by a BIG THICK log, did it hurt u may ask!, YES it DID i thought i was bleeding but i didnt and am i Still Virgin yes iam :dev: L0o0oL and im prove of it :p ((I was Active But not Sexually ;)

C_T:

What kind of sports has a big, thick log? I never heard of it except Scottish caber tossing!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caber

You didn't do that, did you? If you did, I want you to post the photograph...

Jeff:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL OMG Nooo Waaay Naah i got hit there, cuz when i was playing on a tree watchin ma dad play soccer than i wanted to get off and soo my brother had it down and he let the log go and it flicked back up at me....OOOUUCCHHH is all i have to say lol...

Good thing you didn't get your nose broken...maybe you would be Poor_Ting instead of Cute_Ting, then. ;-)

I know one girl from Somalia, when a guy did something she didn't like when she was little, she took one of those cactuses with the little yellow spines, you know? Looks like soft yellow fur?

And she rubbed it all inside his sheets. When he went to bed that night....

He didn't bother her again....

Good thing you didn't get your nose broken...maybe you would be Poor_Ting instead of Cute_Ting, then. ;-)

I know one girl from Somalia, when a guy did something she didn't like when she was little, she took one of those cactuses with the little yellow spines, you know? Looks like soft yellow fur?

And she rubbed it all inside his sheets. When he went to bed that night....

He didn't bother her again....

...Daanng thats hurts and hard to get out L0o0oL i got em in my hair before :hyper:

Hymen isn't the assurance of verginity.

Many girls can practice sexual before getting married without losing their hymen and even they can lose it and once she wana get married a small operation will fix everything ( how the hell they guy will know !! )

Actually there is a way to know whether or not the hymen has been fixed.. Also, there is a way to know whether or not men have had sex before, but this takes a quite long procedure..

It does not matter to me, whether or not she's a virgin. What matters to me is something else, alot important than virginity.

^^^^^
and whts that :p

Would you judge a girls virginity by the basis of her hymen?
no

Would such actions indicate that your partner has performed sexual actions before marriage?
not at all

To what level or indications would you precede to accept that ur partner is actually a virgin?
i don't care if she's a virgin or not and ot be honest even if i care about that, here, it's really hard to find a girl (over 16) virgin :XD:

Is virginity still important in todays societies?
not at all

Do you wish to marry a virgin?
naah ^^

Haha like in those old black and white Egyption movies, the guys parents stand outstide their newly wed son's room while he's inside making love to his wife. Then once she bleeds he shows his parents a handkerchief covered with blood and his parents heave sighs of relief hahah I seriously laugh my guts out at this :D

2 questions..

1. What movie was this?

2. Wtf were you on when you watched that movie??? 0_o

Actually there is a way to know whether or not the hymen has been fixed.. Also, there is a way to know whether or not men have had sex before, but this takes a quite long procedure..

how can u know if a male is virgin or not ? :mmhmm:
and u can't really know if the a girl is virgin or not, she may have broked her hymen in playing sport or she may have a 'broad' hymen then when she'll have her first sexual intercourse she won't bleed ...

so in both case i don"t think you can really know :rolleyes:

http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32337

let me add this thread into your list.


every one can read what i posted i wont post again or else i know that they will lock the thread.

Is virginity still important in todays societies?

It must be... (thats why we have almost 7 threads about it in sabla only).

how can u know if a male is virgin or not ? :mmhmm:


Premature ejaculation, rhythm and timing and if he's way too good the "first time" he has sex with his wife... He could learn some experience from watching and reading about sexual advice but he would be pretty average at it the first time.. He would also be "penis envy" where he would be too concerned about its length wondering if its enough to please or enough to tease ( i dunno i just wanted something to rhyme with it :p)

quite simple :XD:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :XD: :XD: :XD:
:omg: ... it's not really like that but almost :color: :o

Yeah but by then if she finds out that he had sex before then it would be too late.. she's stuck with him:p

The guy i marry will definitley be a virgin....hell no i'm not gonna marry a man Wh0r3


babe..how on earth would you know that??
has he been 24/7 on your side before asking you to marry him?

Dont be so sure, when comes to virginity men can be very secrecy in this.
Expect the unExpected dear.

To those guys who wont marry non-virgin girls will go around marrying and divorcing til they get the virgin girl.

And to those girls who wont marry non-virgin man,will run many test to know if the guy is virgin or not.

About a man being a non-virgin...if he really loves her he would be honest etc. Aint that true?

Honesty is dead, along with chivalry ;)

at least when it comes to things like this - like intellective said, expect anything!

Lol

seems like the "most wanted Topic"..this needs an award :D

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :XD: :XD: :XD:
:omg: ... it's not really like that but almost :color: :o

hmmm yeah yur right.. he could have had sex with artificial female (or some other fetish that makes him happy >_>) sex parts with blow up sex dolls!

I don't know about marriage

But I will never go out with a virgin, what for?!

I don't want to be blamed later :bored:

I don't want to be blamed later :bored:


better to be safe than sorry isnt it?;)

i do agree with hitman , its better to date a non-virgin woman.
its safe they are even more mature unlike the virgin ones.

Yah MP, and they are more available than the virgins..hard to find em these days eh?

virgins are hard to find but its much more fun to go out with a non-virgin any ways when it comes to marriage its more preferable to marry a virgin woman,but me my self i dont follow these rules.

Oy!!! You guys are talking about girls like clothes... stop it!:lift:

Well, Arnt they?

You're looking for a beatin' aren't you rosso? :yell:

Truth Hurts, move on..

Who wants to open a thread called: "will you date a virgin"? :p

I won't for sure :yes:

To answer your question arabian bella, I don't think I would give it a damn if my partner is a virgin or not. As long as my partner is true to me and loves me completely, I would not care.. heck I wouldn't even pick this topic up ever. Whats done is done nobody can change/undo it and I can't loose the one I love just because of this viriginity issue.

so simple in our socitey, women want vergin man n men want vergin women n if there is anyproblem in that they can slove it between both of them n it depends on thier personalities if it's okay or not or is there is a reasonable reason behind it

You know, you can tell if a girl is a virgin, but only if you actually put a fair amount of effort into it and you know what you are doing. Bleeding during sex does not automatically mean a broken hymen. With a man you can't tell at all.

However, actually you can, reasonably well, tell whether someone is a virgin or not and that is by talking to them and getting to know them. It's not too difficult to know when people are lying or telling the truth.

Not that it matters a jot, though.

LOOOOOOOOOL @ U ppl

;) Angel Eyes, you are absolutely right!


Have you ever seen "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" by the way? 'Angel Eyes' is one hell of a tough character in that film!

However, actually you can, reasonably well, tell whether someone is a virgin or not and that is by talking to them and getting to know them. It's not too difficult to know when people are lying or telling the truth.


ohhh ..,,u r very optimistic ,,, do u think that if a girl lost her virginity ,she is going to tell u about it straight away ..hhhehehhe
In society and culture this is not going to happen .. cos the reason that most people gonna say is that she lost her virginity by sex ....
they cant accept that a fall could result in that ,,,


sory but theat the case in the omani culture or tradition (omani world)