I've been told, that birth control might me haram if it was for the reason of financial problems, I don't know which shaikh said so....he said that god makes the child's life easier once he's being brought to life..

And, if the reason was not desiring more, then it's ok to control it.

Is this true? what do you think about it?

Hmm..Im not sure, Birth Control in Islamic terms is just "spacing" between children. What's haram is to STOP having kids at all.. meaning when you have 3 kids, and you just say "that's it! no more.."

This is haram (correct me if I'm wrong).

From the financial aspect, I'm not sure.. but why would Allah want a poor family to have 11 kids when they can barely feed themselves.. :bored:

I don't think its haram.. I mean having too much kids can lead to financial problems which is why family planning comes into place.. my dad had 16 brothers and sisters and he was having a tough time in his life. Not to mention its hard for the parents to treat the children equally when they're large in numbers. Sex has also been created as recreation aside from reproduction.

But anyways it all comes down to how many kids you want to have in your family so that you can support them in the future.. technically that is a form of birth control.

What's haram is to STOP having kids at all.. meaning when you have 3 kids, and you just say "that's it! no more.."

This is haram (correct me if I'm wrong).



Thats what I want to say :mmhmm:

Why is it haram to stop having kids? like...if the parents were rich..and they have like 4 kids...why would they keep giving birth if they have had enough?

Why is it haram to stop having kids? like...if the parents were rich..and they have like 4 kids...why would they keep giving birth if they have had enough?

coz u r changing one of the basis of life ...

WHY!!! Y3ni a couple should keep giving birth until they have like 30 kids!!

WHY!!! Y3ni a couple should keep giving birth until they have like 30 kids!!

Dont look inside the frame of a problem but try to see it from the outside as well:cool:

Human Existence is to thank God ... and one of the ways is to breed ..
and our Messenger said that he'll proud of his ppls in front of the others ..

huh!...you seem like u don't know how hard it is to have too much kids >.>

huh!...you seem like u don't know how hard it is to have too much kids >.>

I know it coz we r 10 in my family :D :D
Can u compete with that ??!!:p

As I said, my dad had 16 brothers and sisters and not only was it a problem financially but family wise it was terrible. There's no love or affection coming from a parent when the kids are in mass numbers.. if they were fewer numbers they can be treated equally. But from what I know, my grandparents rarely cared about their kids problems due to what they had to look after in the house.

Human Existence is to thank God ... and one of the ways is to breed ..and our Messenger said that he'll proud of his ppls in front of the others ..

I wanted to mention that. Allah created humans for the sole purpose of reproducing. With reproduction means creating more people to worship him and thank him and have faith in him. The act of reproducing itself is an act of "faith" towards god. (عبادة)

That's why it's haram to actually put a stop to it.

Click (http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-Arabic-Ask_Scholar/FatwaA/FatwaA&cid=1122528601370).[Arabic].

Salam..

^^ walla ent shay ! u throw the bomb n walk away !!

well i guess it's clear now.. it's not haram .. if both husbandn wife agreee apon it :) n if it doesnt harm the body..

haha...Don't u jus love him lol.

Okay, I read that.. But I still believe (as I've studied in school here in Oman) that birth control for the purpose of "stopping" birth and not having more children is haram..

God only knows الله أعلم

I've been told, that birth control might me haram if it was for the reason of financial problems, I don't know which shaikh said so....he said that god makes the child's life easier once he's being brought to life..

Is this true? what do you think about it?

I think, if the sheikh agrees to help me with the financing of the kids, then sure no problem.

Okay, as opposed to nezitiC's source, I found this:

-It is not allowed to enact a general law that limits the freedom of spouses in having children.

-It is forbidden to "permanently" end a man's or a woman's ability to produce children, such as by having a hysterectomy or vasectomy, as long as that is not called for by circumstances of necessity according to its Islamic framework.

-It is permissible to control the timing of births with the intent of distancing the occurrences of pregnancy or to delay it for a specific amount of time, if there is some Shariah need for that in the opinion of the spouses, based on mutual consultation and agreement between them. However, this is conditioned by that not leading to any harm, by it being done by means that are approved in the Shariah and that it not do anything to oppose a current and existing pregnancy.

..and this is the way I've always known it to be :)

S O U R C E (http://www.islamway.com/sisters/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=364)

^^ I don't get it!!! y3ni we should keep having kids till we die??? it doesn't make sense to me!..like..I wanna have 2 or 3 kids max...u mean I should keep having kids even if I don't want to raise more...:bored:...It's nonsense.

PT: hahaha..I said the same thing...god may make the baby's life easier, not his parents :bored:

^^ I don't get it!!! y3ni we should keep having kids till we die??? it doesn't make sense to me!..like..I wanna have 2 or 3 kids max...u mean I should keep having kids even if I don't want to raise more...:bored:...It's nonsense!

haha! I know!! It doesnt make sense.. but then think of it this way..

You marry when you're 25 (maybe younger for you guys), you decide not to have children for the first 2 years (agreed with the husband) because you want to spend time together at first. You're 27 now.. you have your first child.. you wait to have your second child 2 years later (or a year or even 3)
--> Thats the Islamic birth control. You have 3 kids now, 2 years spaced between each, how old are you? 31 years old.. You have to take care of the first 3, you're too busy to have more children, you're not stopping because you want to, but because you have 3 that you are already responsible for.
kindergarten, schools, food...etc.. And you and your husband ofcourse.

The youngest is 3 years old now.. You are 34 years old.
Now they say, it's unpreferred that women have children after the age of 35.
Ofcourse, some women have had children when they were 40. So I don't know how true this theory is..

BUT.. you have another kid (Since the first 3 were boys, you and the MR. and hoping for a girl this time - lol), ... it's a... BOY! ... again..
But Hamdulilah..

See where I'm going with this? If you think of it the way I've stated above, then it makes perfect sense. By the time you're 39, your youngest is only 5 years old.. Another responsibility.. By the time he is young enough (6-7years) you'd be 40 or 41.. Any more births would probably be more complicated and might put the baby and yourself in danger.. So you can stop now. :)

What's haram is when a couple gets married and say "we are not having more than two kids".

I dont know..

What's haram is when a couple gets married and say "we are not having more than two kids".

I was enjoying what u've written above, untiu you said that ^^...why!? like..I don't want a huge family...I like to focus on my kids as much as I can..big family will make it hard...and I don't want to drag a kids' school whenever I want to travel for vacations and so on...why is it haram this way? what you said made sense, alright...but having three kids is not enough?

I don't think am gonna get married in an age less that 23, and...wait like, one year for having a 1st baby..and 4 years until I have my other one...I think...if you feel that u have had enough kids...no need to be mean and give birth for more when they will hate u for bringing them to life either ways :D

Really, why? even if they want to have like few kids and that's it...isn't it their right?

'sigh'.. I wish I knew more.. We could ask someone who is more knowlegable.. I only said it the way I knew it :shy:

Maybe there is a certain fatwa on how much you should space between the children?

In my family's case.. My folks had us, Four. I came first, then they kept trying for another girl, but .. lol.. 3 boys came along!.. Then they decided they should take a break, 4 is not a joke, with schools and everything and many expenses.
The youngest was 7 years old, when my mom got pregnant again (unplanned).. So that makes the youngest 14 years younger than I am! Anyway, Hamdulilah they said, and again hoped it would be a girl..

LOL.. 5th child was a boy too.. :XD: Serves them right for trying to have a girl! Why? Am I that bad?! :p


Bwahahahahaha :6: I'm the only girl! And that's how it should stay!

hahaha...mine are different...we're three...two boys, and tried for a girl, then here i come lol, that explains my name :p...but, what if the parents have all they need and dont want to try..... no one knows in this whole sabla!! All u do is fight about politics haha :p

..Birth Control Even girlz that are still virgins take it cuz they got bad pms pain and s0o0o the birth control pills helpz that and keeps there period comin when it needs to not late not earlier...

I think you guys jumbled "deciding not to have more than __ kids" with "having a vasectomy or sterilization"

There's a major difference between the 2 of these. The latter being is that you treat God's gift to you very lightly and discard it as if its useless. The former on the other hand is nothing more than family planning. The Fatwa the BM posted makes no mention of whether or not "family planning" is haram or not. Plus I talked to many girls before they're married and they tell me they'd like to have 2-4 kids more or less.. isn't that technically haram because she has already decided on it?